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2020-09-01 12:27 by Karl Denninger
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Satanic Alternatives - America Does Not Deserve To Survive *
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Let's face it -- we're being given a Satanic choice.

There are a few things that are quite-clear about this political season.

First, the Senate is odds-on to flip Democrat, like it or not.  In fact it would be miraculous if it does not.  This isn't a function of who's got the better candidates, it's a math problem.  Toss-up states are all incumbent Republican or vacant seats; this by definition is a crappy situation that has nearly no chance of working out well for Team Red.

The odds of flipping The House red are long.  In fact, insurmountably so, by my math; the margin is just too large.

And then you have the top of the ticket.

Remember, Trump has had four years.  What has he done to beat back the Marxist tendencies of various political entities?

Nothing.  In fact he has enhanced them.

Who continued to allow the FDA, for example, to continue their outright scam when it comes to drugs?  Is not Trump in charge of the Executive?  Can he not demand that the law be followed and enforce it as the head of the executive?  Of course he can, and of course he could have.  In fact he promised to do so repeatedly during the campaign in 2016.

Could he have resolved the entire medical scam during his first week in office?  Yes.  There is 100+ year old law, 15 USC Chapter 1, that makes essentially everything the medical industry does when it comes to pricing illegal.  Said law has been challenged twice by parts of the industry all the way to the US Supreme Court and upheld.  The authority to execute on that law rests solely in the Executive, as does all law enforcement.  President Trump decided not to.  Then when Covid hit he furthered the scam by not only continuing to allow differential pricing but by deliberately using the DPA to force production of ventilators that we knew killed you 95% of the time in Wuhan.

Remember this?


We spent billions of dollars on an intentionally worthless device and our President did so by unitary Executive Order.  Said devices were then used on Americans and murdered them.  We did this will full knowledge ("p" value of <0.001, or less than one chance in a thousand that outcome was due to random chance) that they were next to worthless.

That is a Satanic act, standing alone.

But it did not stand alone.

Secretary Azar issued a regulation within days of the outbreak using a post-Katrina law immunizing the medical industry from legal consequences from the use of said devices and for any other decision to treat, or refusal to treat, anything related to Covid19.  Secretary Azar serves at the pleasure of the President.  Secretary Azar still has his job.

Trump did not pass that law, but he did deliberately abuse it and that abuse was directly responsible for the death of over 100,000 Americans, including quite possibly your grandmother.

Remember we were told that we should shelter in place for 15 days to "flatten the curve" and even the CDC admitted that there was no possible way to stop the virus.  They're right, by the way; there isn't, save one -- herd suppression.  Further, the CDC deliberately changed the way deaths are counted, an act of open and notorious fraud.  In all cases except this one a particular cause claimed as part of a death must be in the causal chain of death on the death certificate.  For example

The person died of lack of oxygen.
Caused by their heart stopping (myocardial infarction)
Caused by a blockage of a coronary artery.
Caused by chronic inflammation, which was contributed to by:
1. Smoking
2. Diabetes
3. Obesity

I've read enough death certificates; I have, at this point, buried damn near my entire family.

Except... in this case if you have or were around someone who had Covid19 then suddenly Covid19 is a "cause" of your death, even without causality in the chain being demonstrated.  This has led to the CDC declaring that more than 5,100 people who died of accidents or suicides were in fact Covid19 deaths -- by their own admissionAnd that's just the fraud that is self-proving; the alleged "influenza" deaths this year ex-Covid19 are implausibly low by a factor of about 80%, never mind all the heart attacks, strokes and cancers.

Fraud is illegal.

If that is not enough reason to burn in Hell would you like me to keep going?

Well, like it or not I'm going to.

Fifty-four NIH "scientists" have resigned or been fired for undisclosed foreign government ties.  In 93% of them the foreign government was China.  There have been 189 scientists investigated across 87 institutions thus far.  The investigation started in 2018.  This is the same NIH that Fauci works for, who also, I remind you, has managed to have his wife in the chain of major funding decisions.  If that's not a conflict of interest what would be?

How does an organization that has been proved corrupted by a Communist foreign government have any say whatsoever when it comes to public policy -- especially public policy that is given the force of law?  Yet the NIH and Dr. Fauci have done exactly that.  That too is Satanic and rests directly at the feet of one President Trump, who of his own volition appointed said agency and Dr Fauci to his "task force."

There is, at this point, hard proof that this virus is no more dangerous than the flu -- unless politicians and Health Care intentionally concentrate infections in vulnerable people and thus kill them. There is also hard proof that China launched and continues to maintain a major international pressure campaign for lockdowns and other intrusive measures.  They focused specific attention on Sweden which refused such measures and, I remind you, has been proved right; they reached herd suppression.

How many of the "models" and "modelers" have also been corrupted by the Communists in China?  To this very day they continue to maintain we are on the verge of an unspeakable wave of death -- and these are the same models, "modelers" and "experts" who all claimed Sweden would have somewhere in the neighborhood of 200,000 dead bodies.

In point of fact Sweden has lost fewer than 6,000 citizens and for more than a month their death rate has been an effective zero -- one here, two there, often with days between them.  All of these claims were frauds, not "errors" (to which not one has admitted to publicly nor apologized for) by a factor of more than THIRTY TIMES (3,000%).  In fact these organizations and people including but not limited to some of our allegedly "most-prestigious" epidemiological and "public health" universities and "experts" are still maintaining that we are on the "verge" of a catastrophe this fall and winter that will kill a million or more Americans unless we all take further extreme measures.

Having been proved that every single one of these individuals and organizations were completely full of crap and their fear campaigns were not only false they were maliciously false why hasn't Trump lifted the emergency orders?  For the same reason none of the governors have not done so: Money and power.

But let's focus for a minute on what is unquestionably Satanic: Intentional mass-murder.

Which Fauci, the FDA and our President have all not only endorsed they've caused.

Specifically, they have turned the law on its ear when it comes to certain drugs -- which is both illegal and Satanic.  The law provides that any approved drug can be prescribed by any physician for any condition where, in that physician's judgment, it may be of benefit.  It does not have to be a condition for which they drug is approved.  Yet the FDA and state pharmacy boards have blocked access to hydroxychloroquine for outpatient use.  There is no statutory or regulatory authority to do so; the drug is approved and has been for some 60 years.

"Law and Order"?  Uh, since when?  We're talking death here.  There has been roughly one death per year attributed to HCQ since its approval.  One.  The alleged "cardiac toxicity" referenced by many is, statistically-speaking, mythical.  TDP, which is the actual syndrome that can kill you, has yet to be demonstrated in any of the trials in which HCQ was put forward.  Since the expected mechanism of action for HCQ interferes with viral replication early use is critical -- that is, the earlier you use it the more likely it will help you.  This means that waiting until you are in the hospital intentionally destroys at least part of the expected effectiveness, and perhaps all of it.

Now contrast this with Remdesivir, the "approved" drug by the FDA under emergency authorization.  It has an incidence of 3/53 reported cases of atrial fibrillation, which is a severe cardiac rhythm disorder that can kill you outright.  3/53 is 5.6%, or many multiples of the risk of the same disorder from HCQ.

So why is Remdesivir approved and HCQ banned?  HCQ costs six cents a pill and we have 60 million doses stockpiled at this point; Remdesivir costs about $3,000 for the drug and since it's an IV infusion you must be in the hospital to get it, which adds thousands more to the price.

Satanic?  Oh, you bet.

Never mind that the damage doesn't stop there.  12/53 (!!), or roughly 25% of patients receiving this drug show hepatic enzyme problems.  That's liver damage.  So about one quarter of people who get this drug are at risk of significant liver disease caused by the drug. 

In short Remdesivir is a drug that has extremely serious safety issues -- likely severe enough to torpedo it straight to the bottom of the ocean in any sort of actual clinical review.  In this regard it is almost-identical to what was done with AZT and HIV.  AZT was a failed cancer drug that had extremely serious safety problems.  While it likely was helpful for a short while if you actually had HIV if you did not, because the test for the virus was faulty it created the same sort of damage that HIV did in the body!  Oh, and it was expensive as hell too.

At the same time during the first ten or so years one of the big killers for people with HIV was a form of pneumonia called PCP.  PCP, untreated, is almost always fatal. In people with a functional immune system it is extremely rare because the body is capable of fighting it off long before it becomes dangerous.  But, if you're immune-compromised then this is bug is a very, very real threat.

Leukemia, of course, also tends to wreck your immune system.  In 1977 it was demonstrated that giving children Bactrim, an off-patent and readily-available drug, was highly protective against them getting PCP, which, if they got it untreated it would and did kill them too.

So why do I bring all this up?

I do so because Dr. Anthony Fauci has a decades-long history of being a Satanic ASSHOLE who loves shoving people in the hole by wielding power he has no lawful right to have.  He in fact blocked use of this drug as a prophylaxis against PCP in AIDS patients for years, during which over 30,000 AIDS patients died of PCP infection.  Virtually every one of them should not have died of PCP because we knew this drug was effective as a prophylaxis -- we had successfully used it in kids with Leukemia for several years!

Now granted, in those years HIV was universally fatal; something always wound up getting you.  But that's not the point, right, any more than it is the point that with roughly 40% of our deaths allegedly "from" Covid19 in nursing homes that the median life expectancy when you are admitted to a nursing home is six months doesn't change the fact that if you intentionally give someone a virus that can kill them by forcing infections into said place that's still manslaughter even if you only took three or six months of life from them by doing so and not 10, 20 or 50 years.

What makes you think any of this bullshit with Covid19 is novel?  Perhaps you, dear reader were not around (or at least old enough to be sentient and remember any of this) when AIDS was ravaging the land.  I am old enough and remember all of it, including the dickheads who shoved 450,000 Americans into the hole, and some of those same assholes are now responsible in no small part for the 170,000 we shoved into the hole this time around.

That's what happens when you let someone get away with killing tens of thousands of people -- they do it again, and they enlist new people to help them the next time, exactly as occurred here.  This time they enlisted the governors, mayors and President in doing so and made a huge goddamned industry out of it to the tune of tens of billions of dollars within months at the same time.

Lest you think that Biden and Harris will make anything better, well, no they won't.  Biden was around in those years, if you remember. Harris was either too young or blowing politicians to get jobs.

But voting for Satan is, well, voting for Satan -- and I refuse.

Every one of the people involved in this bullshit, from the President to 49 of the 50 State Governors (SD's likely excepted) and an utterly enormous percentage of County and City Executives and Councils deserve to be in the Hague standing trial for mass-murder under political pretext right now.  I would offer a toast and thanks to God if any or all of them were to be hit by an asteroid and two toasts if their entire blood line was within the blast radius and reduced to dust; every last one of them deserve it.

If you think I'm voting for any of those people, it will be under only ONE condition: If that vote is to send them to public execution, preferably by slow, painful and outrageously severe means for the purpose of sending a very public and indelible message to anyone who might contemplate pulling this sort of crap in the future.

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Rickylc 3k posts, incept 2009-02-09
2020-09-01 12:43:18

tRump won't do diddley squat, he'll line everyone up for vaccinations just like the rest. As you so eloquently demonstrated, blood is already on his hands.

die die die!

We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying. - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Aquapura 4k posts, incept 2012-04-19
2020-09-01 13:12:37

On the division of power in the senate if Trump does well I think he can carry some down ticket elections. NC, GA, MT & IA are likely places that could stay red if Trumpster does well in my opinion. That's no guarantee but we shall see. Alabama is probably going to flip back red. I'm not betting on a +6 advantage to the R's but thinking we could likely end up with a VP tie breaker situation again.

I used to think who controlled congress and senate mattered more than the WH, but with governing by executive order in place I'm not so sure anymore. No matter who is installed we are in for a shit sandwich hot & steamy.
Wifi 14k posts, incept 2013-02-13
2020-09-01 14:04:41

Wow! First and foremost this ticker should be pinned. Thank You Karl, for putting this together, then having the required amount of brass to publish it.

It is correct, and just, to come to the conclusions that are pointed out.

If it has yet to be figured out, America, will not survive!

America was forever changed on 11/22/1963, the country has been in a visible decline, that is undeniable. Of course there are dates in our relatively short history that impacted this country, but the November date was a drastic turning point.

It has been a great run while it lasted, at least in my lifetime, going forward, not so much, it is not getting better, but now in a rapid decline.

"We live in a, ideocracy populated with morons." - Goldbrick

Bagbalm 6k posts, incept 2009-03-19
2020-09-01 14:05:02

In government NOBODY is on your side.
Jw. 724 posts, incept 2019-10-10
2020-09-01 14:05:20

"Draining the swamp" in Trump's world is flooding it with 4.1 trillion dollars....

Don't need much more proof than that right there to know this dude is simply the Republican's Obama.

Anyone remember when Ron Paul was invited to the Republican convention? Me neither, but Trump was, told me all I needed to know right there and then about how much "Change" was going to happen from this "Outsider". None.

Trump is simply Bush Junior, on steroids.

Hillary is still free and will continue to be free even if Trump is elected again.

All this looting and rioting is going to do is usher in a new police state, what you are seeing is both sides pushing this into their political tyranny, with COVID being used to usher in a new layer of US citizen based surveillance.

The new guard is just like the old guard.

Congratulations Republicans, you look and act just like Democrats now worshipping your orange jesus. And Democrats, now you act just like Republicans with your hatred towards a president you didn't elect.

Who knew people would be so easy to play!

Oh shit, a bunch of rich power hungry assholes in DC knew!!

Put a fork in it, it's over...if the two parties don't destroy us first, the inflation tsunami will.

The spending must continue, until it can't.
Zappafan 6k posts, incept 2007-11-30
2020-09-01 15:13:51

I'm in GA and will probably vote for the Democrat for Senate just to accelerate the collapse. I'm done.
Raven 17k posts, incept 2017-06-27
2020-09-01 15:50:20

How the race for a Covid-19 vaccine is getting dirty

Laura Spinney, The Guardian Sun 30 Aug 2020 02.52 EDT Last modified on Sun 30 Aug 2020 14.55 EDT Laura Spinney is the author of Pale Rider: The Spanish Flu of 1918 and How It Changed the World (Vintage, 10.99).

Covid-19 is not flu. It is caused by a virus, Sars-CoV-2, about which relatively little is known, and some of the experimental vaccines currently going through clinical trials also make use of novel technology. That is a lot of unknowns. We dont have a vaccine for any coronavirus, so why do people assume this is going to be straightforward? Dawson asks.

One potential risk with some kinds of vaccine, for example, is that they can cause the recipient to experience a worse bout of the disease if that person becomes infected naturally later on. This phenomenon, known as antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE), has been a problem with experimental vaccines against severe acute respiratory syndrome (Sars) which is caused by a virus related to Sars-CoV-2 and it will need to be ruled out by rigorous testing of vaccines against Covid-19.

If ADE were to turn out to be a problem with a vaccine after it had been approved, in a country with poor safety reporting, years might pass before the full human cost came to light. This is a dilemma currently exercising the Africa Centres for Disease Control and Prevention, which is working with Covid-19 vaccine developers to set up phase 3 trials in Africa. Covid-19 outbreaks are now growing in parts of that continent, meaning it is potentially a good place to test the ability of a putative vaccine to protect people against infection, but safety surveillance can be patchy there. Often where you have most cases of an infectious disease, the infrastructure for surveillance isnt as good, says Kampmann.

Guaranteed that regardless of what happens here with a vaccine, probably nothing, they are going to spread this slop through all of Africa for a massive profit for which others will pay the price.
M1919a2 862 posts, incept 2015-07-18
2020-09-01 15:51:53

I guess the only grown-up in the good ole USofA is a 17 year-old baby faced kid from Illinois and since my year-old got a 1 and 7 in it, I'll go with him.

Just saying.
Mannfm11 9k posts, incept 2009-02-28
2020-09-01 16:52:57

I think the bureaucracy is the problem. They have had decades to build a wall of nonsense that it might take a President 4 terms to clean out. The bureaucrats own the bureaucracies. You might look at Fauci and Birx. If it wasn't them, it would be someone below them feeding bullshit information. The best thing that could have ever happened to the country is if the plane that supposedly hit the Pentagon had been a high powered nuke and wiped all the termites out. Every time they succeed in making government bigger, we get more socialists in place who vote for more of the same. Stranglehold. It hasn't helped that Obama likely funded a bunch of NGO bullshit that is now being used in the streets against the country.

The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable.---John Kenneth Galbraith
Mangymutt 1k posts, incept 2015-05-03
2020-09-01 16:53:02

Does our vote matter?

We live in a world of lies, darkness and lawlessness. The world belongs to Satan,for he is the prince of this world.

Trump lies, obfuscates and keeps us in the dark, he is perfectly ok with lawlessness as long at it favors "his cause". And all the Trupites shout "Hooray for our side".

Bidden has spent a life time selling lawlessness and lies, he lives in darkness and openly admits he wants to steal your livelihood. But the Biddenites yell just as loudly "Hooray for our side".

The only thing that has kept our country and this world going has been The Light and The Truth. And we lost that. Churches now openly advocate for abortion on demand, homosexual "marriage", sexual deviance. And by accepting the debt of our money changers they (the churches) have allowed The Light to be dimmed and The Truth to be muted. They told us "God will forgive", and we believed and parited all day and all night, saying out loud "the consequences don't matter".

So as we enter into possibly America's last presidential election, the Prince of This World says:
(With These)Satanic Alternatives - America Does Not Deserve To Survive
and openly laughs at us.

We sold our future and our children's future so we could choose between a Fat Fool or Feeble Minded Cretin. Both promise us the only way out of the coming hell is to vote for them. Do you believe in either of these puppets? If so why?

I am not a genetic engineer, billionaire, or anyone of any import, but I do know how to read and mostly do a decent job with my reasoning skills. So I wonder short of Apophis showing up a few years early which of our two likely "saviors" will prevent us from getting Bill Gate's genetically modified mRNA "vaccine" that promises to "cut out" parts of our God given genetic code and replace it with...Well Modified genetic code. Does the Prince of This World REALLY care if it is Fat Man or Dementia Joe? No, because both choices keep us covered in darkness and wrapped in lawlessness, where we will gladly line up to get our yearly RNA altering government approved shot.

The premise of this ticker as I understand it, is: "Does our vote matter?"

Does it?

Chose wisely.

"It's just a shot" - Gates
Mangymutt 1k posts, incept 2015-05-03
2020-09-01 17:06:02


Guaranteed that regardless of what happens here with a vaccine, probably nothing, they are going to spread this slop through all of Africa for a massive profit for which others will pay the price.

Well yea but when you consider the fraud is less than 3001 percent it seems like the risk is worth it....NO?

All of these claims were frauds, not "errors" (to which not one has admitted to publicly nor apologized for) by a factor of more than THIRTY TIMES (3,000%). In fact these organizations and people including but not limited to some of our allegedly "most-prestigious" epidemiological and "public health" universities and "experts" are still maintaining that we are on the "verge" of a catastrophe this fall and winter that will kill a million or more Americans unless we all take further extreme measures.

Ooops MY BAD, Karl does actually say MORE THAN 3000 percent..... But what are few percentage points when you are talking about peoples lives...

"It's just a shot" - Gates
Jesjohn94 1k posts, incept 2019-05-07
2020-09-01 17:55:01

Doctors here turned into salesmen for the drug companies long ago. They might have been manipulated in the beginning but no doubt it is driven by greed now. Just look at statins. You only have to google for a few minutes to find many very prestigious doctors saying they should be banned.
Ebt 370 posts, incept 2018-12-22
2020-09-01 18:24:11

I voted in the first primary of my life today
Invisiblesun 884 posts, incept 2020-04-08
2020-09-01 19:53:09


We now know Covid is a massive scam. It is a "flu" virus that was manipulated by fraudulent testing to be presented as five to six times worse than it actually was. The US PCR ran 37 to 40 cycles. Germany ran 30 cycles. The difference? The USA & France & Italy & UK show a Covid death rate six times worse than Germany.

Remember the president of Tanzania? He tested the test and said it was junk. He was smart.

We have truly experienced the greatest crime in the history of the world. Who is in on it? Bill Gates? Fauci? Those mandating the best requirements had to know. What they have done is an act of war and a crime against humanity. And we know they won't even face indictment.

Satan is laughing.

Fumei 4k posts, incept 2019-01-08
2020-09-01 19:54:12

I hope he lives up to the hype.
Tonythetiger 1k posts, incept 2019-01-27
2020-09-01 21:04:27


We'll be fighting in the streets smiley
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone smiley

And the men who spurred us on smiley
Sit in judgment of all wrong smiley
They decide and the shotgun sings the song smiley

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution smiley
Take a bow for the new revolution smiley
Smile and grin at the change all around smiley
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday

And I'll get on my knees and pray smiley
We don't get fooled again


Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss smiley

The Who
"We Won't Get Fooled Again"

"War is when the Government tells you who the bad guy is. Revolution is when you decide that for yourself." - Benjamin Franklin

You can vote your way into Communism, but you have to
M1919a2 862 posts, incept 2015-07-18
2020-09-01 21:25:12

My, My, MY! What do we have here?

From Breitbart and CLEARLY my prior statement becomes CLEARER!

"Attorney General William Barr said Tuesday that federal agents had picked up information alleging that "violent instigators" from outside Wisconsin were traveling to Kenosha to attack law enforcement amid protests sparked by the police-involved shooting of Jacob Blake."

So some citizens step in and one, 17 year old Kyle Rittenhouse, who is doing the JOB description "the security of a free States" in all likelihood took out the advanced elements of these "violent instigators" from outside Wisconsin ALL TO HELL in a PERFECT display of the JUDICIOUS USE OF DEADLY FORCE against DEADLY ATTACKS!

Probably why the dRats of Kenosha are PISSED at him and want to make sure no other citizens gets UPPITY IDEAS that they are anything other than chattel slaves of the PRIVILEGED ELITE CLASSES!

Breitbart link:

I am quite sure this above action of citizens will put the faux pandemic in the toilet from whence it came!

Reason: added " " where ommitted by the stupid computer
Chromehill 1k posts, incept 2010-03-03
2020-09-02 08:29:28

@Whitehat - I believe they already said in the USA they want to make giving the vaccine to people of color a priority. I think they want to use the people of color as guinea pigs, the white liberals could care less about any harm to colored people. After all, the globalists really love their eugenics.

If you look at the radical left, their actions are right out of the National Socialists playbook of pre WW2 Germany, from rise to hopefully fall.

'Power, like the reproductive muscle, longs to be exercised, often without judgement or right' - Gerry Spence

"Above all, while defending our own vital interests, nuclear powers
Smacktle 8k posts, incept 2009-01-20
2020-09-02 08:29:36

Im surprised there are not more comments about this. Have the peoples reached a saturation threshold around the Wuhan Flu?

Fumei, you are a trip man! And I mean that in the best sort of way.

Use your Ticker Balls
Greenacr 996 posts, incept 2016-03-15
2020-09-02 08:30:04

I celebrate Karl's decision to not vote in this coming election. That he can make that choice is an aspect that makes America a great country.

I for one am going to take a different path. I will vote and, that vote will be for Trump and the "Red" ticket except in a couple local elections where I know of some Dems who will do more good than the Republican.

Yes, Trump has fallen short on many fronts. Name me a president who has faced a more organized and determined opposition from inside the government, the press and the opposing political party. I think we over estimate the impact of one man or the small dedicated Trump Team. I think about "culture" in my company and how difficult it is to move our culture to that of "continuous improvement" or whatever initiative we are pursuing. My guess is that changing the culture of Washington is a 100 fold more difficult.

I think of the progress Trump has made on reducing illegal immigration, appointing "less liberal" judges than the Blue Team, confronting China, trying to advance peace in the Middle East, taking out some terror bad guys and hopefully ending the Afghanistan war. There are other thing but I would run out of room. Has Trump been perfect ..... far from it, but better than anything Team Blue would have fielded.

I did some readings on the "Red Terror" and the Bolshevik Revolution. I see "Rhymes" in the current movements of BLM and Antifa.

So I will vote Trump knowing that my vote is the lesser of two evils, with the hope that he can continue to make changes that will ultimately change the compass heading of this very large Aircraft Carrier (USA).
Ugrev 1k posts, incept 2010-03-08
2020-09-02 08:30:21

I'm just going to enjoy myself as much as I possibly can. Nothing I do or say matters or has any effect. Can't dodge an asteroid of this size. Salute! My friends.. Salute! Picking up the pieces is all one can do after impact.

Irregular Warfare is now in play
Tickerguy 202k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2020-09-02 08:32:45

@Greenacr - Trump killed over 100,000 Americans directly through his policies, on American soil, in the last six months. Leave war out of it (both sides love war, but America has yet to take all that many casualties in a war in a long, long time.)

In fact given the run rate he's rivaling a dude with "H" as the first letter of his last name. Be careful what you wish for.

You might get it.

"Perhaps you can keep things together and advance playing DIE games.
Or perhaps the truth is that white men w/IQs >= 115 or so built all of it and without us it will collapse."
Greenacr 996 posts, incept 2016-03-15
2020-09-02 08:47:01

@Ticker Guy. Fact is we are either getting Trump or Biden/Harris. It is not wishing for one or the other again simply the lesser of two evils in my book.

The 100K dead. How many would have died anyways. Is it Trump's fault that Blue States put infected folks into nursing homes? We want Trump to unilaterally fix things in this federal form of government but then wring our hands when the Executive take unilateral action.

Sorry, I don't see Trump as Hitler. He may be egotistical, insecure, inarticulate but I don't think he is Evil. I don't even see Biden that way.

As Ugrev stated "Picking up the pieces is all one can do after impact"
Tickerguy 202k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2020-09-02 08:48:12

@Greenacr -- There was no "unilateral" action; the States could not have acted without the "emergency" declaration, Medicare is a FEDERAL program as is Medicaid, both are involved in certification of nursing homes, and the FDA is a federal agency.

Good luck.

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Or perhaps the truth is that white men w/IQs >= 115 or so built all of it and without us it will collapse."
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