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2020-06-04 18:13 by Karl Denninger
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I've been following this one, as have a number of physicians I correspond with, including a fairly well-known cardiologist.  

Statement from The Lancet
Today, three of the authors of the paper, "Hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine with or without a macrolide for treatment of COVID-19: a multinational registry analysis", have retracted their study. They were unable to complete an independent audit of the data underpinning their analysis. As a result, they have concluded that they "can no longer vouch for the veracity of the primary data sources." The Lancet takes issues of scientific integrity extremely seriously, and there are many outstanding questions about Surgisphere and the data that were allegedly included in this study. Following guidelines from the Committee on Publication Ethics (COPE) and International Committee of Medical Journal Editors (ICMJE), institutional reviews of Surgisphere’s research collaborations are urgently needed.

The retraction notice is published today, June 4, 2020.

If you recall this original paper was allegedly a very large retrospective analysis of Hydroxychloroquine (and Chloroquine) for the treatment of Covid-19.  It found that the treatment was not only worthless but dangerous.

There were serious and obvious problems with the data set and reported incident rate.  The Lancet published the paper anyway, believing that its "review" was in fact appropriate and factually-based.  Whether that was willful blindness or just simple laziness doesn't matter.

The fact of the matter is that there is no rational explanation that does not include some kind of intentional misconduct; who committed the misconduct simply is a function of figuring out who to ruin to ash and scatter, given the avoidable mortality that was incurred.  It is simply beyond reasonable belief that the sort of data discontinuities that I and others noted were in the realm of honest error, and in any event honest error is supposed to be discovered by the review process before publication.

When called on the obvious issues the data sourcing organization refused to provide the original data, the contacts from which the data was collected and could be verified through, and also their alleged original audit report.

They claimed this was due to "client confidentiality" agreements.

Oh really?  So what was the intention of the clients?

Who were they?  Name them.

And why wasn't the data source integrity verified prior to the original publication?

This isn't over and it is not a matter of simply "retracting" this alleged study.  There is very strong evidence of intentional misconduct here that spans far more than one organization.  It it appears at first blush to be both multi-party and intentionally organized.  Given the amount of money involved in managing to obtain "on-patent" drug approvals which would be instantly torpedoed by literal dime-a-pill alternatives that work at least as well or better, and I remind you that Ivermectin, an extremely common and very cheap anti-parasitic drug used in both humans and veterinary practice appears to also have activity as a coronavirus treatment, with early results coming from places where they don't have a lot of money, such as India, with words such as "astonishing" being used to describe effectiveness.

In short between the CDC data, which certainly appears to show that Covid-19 may not have killed many if any who were not weeks to a couple of months from death anyway (we shall know this with certainty around the end of the year, but the pattern sure looks that way right now) and the repeated apparent evidence of intentional false results being published this, along with the "ventilator" nonsense and pre-ordering vaccines that haven't been proved to work yet needs to be run down as a potential medical and pharmaceutical system-wide Racketeering enterprise.  After all who wants or needs a vaccine if you can take a dozen 10 cent pills if you get sick with the same odds of preventing any serious outcome as getting jabbed in the arm with something that is unlikely to provide permanent immunity anyway.  The entirety of that process, including the US Government's and Donald Trump's personal involvement, appears to be an out-and-out fraud.

Incidentally the NEJM just retracted a study with the same data source firm implicated, also related to Covid-19.  This one attempted to "clear" the use of drugs targeting ACE and ARB, widely used for high blood pressure among other things.  There was plenty of reason to believe these drugs might worsen a Covid-19 infection due to how Covid-19 attacks cells and as such, along with the extremely wide use of these drugs, makes such findings of extremely high importance.  Being wrong about this is likely to kill people.  Again, there are plenty of people and firms who wanted a finding of "no harm" and had both professional and financial reasons for that outcome, and they got it.  Now that "finding" has been withdrawn as well.

The number of false claims made about this disease thus far literally boggles the mind and they appear to be made for both political and economic purposes.  In short it appears that while the bug is certainly real and for some people quite dangerous when looked at analytically, including intentional obstruction of functional, inexpensive medications we allowed our economy to be ruined by a scam that has now been turned into a looting operation far greater than the Floyd riots -- in fact, a looting operation that is still ongoing and which counts the damage, including the Fed and Congressional "handout" jubilee to the favored few, in the trillions.

Why isn't Bill Barr looking into the command and control structure of these looters and locking them up?

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Orangemanbadeh 1k posts, incept 2019-04-22
2020-06-04 18:25:54

Speaking of Ivermectin as a possible treatment, given the current attitude of insurrection and rebellion, I'd like to take this opportunity to say **** the Police and their War on Drugs, or at least the DEA.

Don't let the bastards kill you while you can help it. Have some on hand, in case of emergency, break glass.
Twainfan2 1k posts, incept 2018-12-04
2020-06-04 18:43:16

They are still trying to discredit HCQ.

If you read that... they didn't even test people to see if they were positive or not, just went off symptoms. And it was only to see if HCQ would keep you from getting the virus. "While not a primary goal, the study also found no increased protection for participants who also took zinc or vitamin C. A separate study suggested that zinc could boost the effectiveness of chloroquine, but even if thats true, the U authors noted that most Americans consume enough zinc already so supplements shouldnt be needed."

Another complete garbage study. I had to laugh when I read they never even tested all of the people in the study to see if they really did have the virus or something else.
Erroldo 660 posts, incept 2013-09-12
2020-06-04 18:51:20

It only comes in injection format on Amazon? No pills?
Frat 12k posts, incept 2009-07-15
2020-06-04 19:31:29

Why isn't Bill Barr looking into the command and control structure of these looters and locking them up?

Well, this one is a gimme, I would think... they turn around and use a decent percentage of their ill-gotten gains to pad (or is it re-pad?) the pockets of the very same people who authorized the theft in the first place. Namely, Congress.

We're fucked. There will be no happy ending here; there is no going back to 'normal.'. There are only bad outcomes and worse outcomes. And we don't get to choose those, either.
Hedgecarey 21 posts, incept 2010-12-23
2020-06-04 19:33:01

The Lancet document clearly shows the horrific conflict of interest. As written in the fine print: "MRM reports personal fees from Abbott, Medtronic, Janssen, Rolvant,..." The list goes on and on. Can't miss it. How many people died because of these lies? Anyone that trusts any of the so called "scientific peered reviewed research" that is filled with massive conflicts of interest needs to have their heads examined. Now we are supposed to trust them for a vaccine?
Nickdanger 1k posts, incept 2011-06-12
2020-06-04 19:52:57

The Ivermectin injectable can be diluted and taken orally. I give it to my dogs in the summer for heartworm prevention. It's a lot less expensive than the meds provided by the vet. I found dilution dosage charts on the web, based on weight.

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Debtfree2200 948 posts, incept 2015-10-29
2020-06-04 20:19:16

I've been completely confused for the past 3 months. Could it really just be all about profit to big pharma? Gotta profit off the deaths. Gilead is the saviour but HCQ is shit. God I hate these people so much.
Mightymosin 190 posts, incept 2020-04-01
2020-06-04 20:19:20

What is Agrimectin Ivermectin for livestock supposed to do?

Were never going to learn how safe the vaccine is unless we start giving it, and thats just the way it goes.
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Tickerguy 193k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2020-06-04 20:16:40

Be aware folks that dose is a big issue with any drug and this one is no exception.

UNLESS you have a specific medical issue that raises your risk IMHO you're nuts to be doing anything treatment-wise on SUSPICION (but not proof) of infection. Simply put all drugs have risks and you're trading one risk for another. Unless your odds of getting fucked by this bug are material there's no reason to do anything other than let the bug run its course.

Now if you're a care provider (and thus could become a vector to seriously-compromised individuals in size) then the math is different. Ditto if you're diabetic, morbidly obese, etc.

Ivermectin is interesting in that it appears it is effective even after replication has really gotten going. HCQ would not be expected to be, because it inhibits replication. Exactly how Ivermectin works is not something I understand well; I was tossed it as a possible treatment very, very early in my reporting on this thing, and couldn't come up with a mechanism of action that made sense.

However, it appears it is now being validated as working and all that matters in the end is that it DOES work, not how. There is some very interesting study work being done with it in places like India, where cheap is a big deal and the early reports I've seen are way into the realm of statistically-significant, and not by a bit either. The data isn't complete yet and it may turn out to be bunk.

BTW before everyone hated anything that wasn't patented for Covid-19, well, just read this:
It is likely that, throughout the next decade, well over 200 million people will be taking the drug annually or semi-annually, via innovative globally-coordinated Mass Drug Administration (MDA) programmes. Indeed, the discovery, development and deployment of ivermectin, produced by an unprecedented partnership between the Private Sector pharmaceutical multinational Merck & Co. Inc., and the Public Sector Kitasato Institute in Tokyo, aided by an extraordinary coalition of multidisciplinary international partners and disease-affected communities, has been recognized by many experts and observers as one of the greatest medical accomplishments of the 20th century.15)

Ivermectin has continually proved to be astonishingly safe for human use. Indeed, it is such a safe drug, with minimal side effects, that it can be administered by non-medical staff and even illiterate individuals in remote rural communities, provided that they have had some very basic, appropriate training. This fact has helped contribute to the unsurpassed beneficial impact that the drug has had on human health and welfare around the globe, especially with regard to the campaign to fight Onchocerciasis.57)

The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Orangemanbadeh 1k posts, incept 2019-04-22
2020-06-04 20:19:36

Erroldo / Nickdanger :

Yes, I believe they have pills on the website as well...but the injectable form will definitely have a longer shelf life and its bottle I'm sure.

I went ahead and bought some so I'd have it on hand before they yanked it... In the event we do get Wave 2.0...Hoax or not, it is in my cabinet with my azithromycin (bought before they effectively banned travel to Mexico) zinc and quinine.

In case of emergency, I can break glass.

I also have an oxygen concentrator and am going to try to make a trip down to Mexico again, prohibited or not to grab blood thinners and corticosteroids.
Orangemanbadeh 1k posts, incept 2019-04-22
2020-06-04 20:20:20


Yeah to borrow a quote from Hunter Thompson...
'I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me.'

And the legal disclaimer:
Your mileage may vary, buyer beware, proceed at your own risk, no civil suits here.

This posting known to the state of California to contain cancer-causing compounds.
Mannfm11 8k posts, incept 2009-02-28
2020-06-04 21:30:26

Quite interestingly, I got a call from a tenant, who just got out of the Fed hotel in Ft. Worth. He said he caught CV19 and it almost killed him. Said the diet was horrible and no sunlight. Probably around 40. 13 dead there. He said it took about 14 days to get really sick and the end was rough. No HCQ.

Hard to dispute a persons first hand experience, but when there is no vitamin D, they are fed out of date pastries and close quarters, not hard to get sick. I think he said 54 cases. Don't know the population.

One more time, Hillary and company are lying. The time is approaching we the people are either going to have to kill or leave.

This whole thing has been political. Fauci and Birx were elevated to Gods. Trump can't fire anyone and the left media not act like he committed an impeachable offense. Just like they blame him for the Minneapolis police, black H=Jesus and the Clinton's acting as if they ever did anything, the press would have put his picture up with every death. HCQ would have been fought, with or without him. THE AIM OF THE MEDIA AND DC IS TO FUCK US TO THE MAX. Intentional disinformation should be punished with long prison terms.

Now they want to disband the police. This can only be a good idea, if we wish to have a reign of terror. It is a lot easier to disband something than to put it back together. Who do you think the criminals will work for? The politicians. Or visa versa. We the people will be fucked again.

The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable.---John Kenneth Galbraith
Ktrosper 5k posts, incept 2010-04-06
2020-06-04 21:45:48

Because Barr ain't there to dispense justice, he's there to protect justice - as in the Dept. of..

The unexamined life is not worth living.-Socrates
The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law.-Aristotle
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Gynojunkie 76 posts, incept 2020-03-19
2020-06-05 06:36:45

KD, as a Mechanism of Action for IVERMECTIN, it is similar in action to HCQ, with a difference:

HCQ acts as a carrier to assist Zinc through the cell membrane. Once inside (in the cytoplasm) the Zinc blocks the COVID-19 virions from using the cell's machinery to make copies of viral particles, thus blocking disease development. (At that locus, the virus has already penetrated to the interior of the cells)!

IVERMECTIN blocks the virus itself from gaining entry into the cell by locking up a protein that "carries" the virus through the cell membrane. The virus cannot get to the cell's replicative machinery.

(Better, in a way, than HCQ because the virus is kept entirely OUT of the cell!)

IVERMECTIN and HCQ: effective, virtually no toxicity and cheap. And, as I've stated previously, these meds are thoroughly despised by our "betters"--effing frauds and scumbags, all--because they want the common man to rely upon government and Big Pharma for his salvation, not ten bucks of cure with a side-order of "fuck you, feds." And, "Fuck You, Fauci."
M1919a2 862 posts, incept 2015-07-18
2020-06-05 06:36:45

"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security."

From the Declaration of July 4, 1776, 1 Statute at Large 1

Whining is NOT found in or among those words. Those words were written in the blood of men no longer alive thus capable of reading them. Get over yourselves or consider this an invitation to leave!
Emmapeel 1 posts, incept 2020-06-05
2020-06-05 06:36:45

Orangemanbadeh, San Ysidro land crossing is wide open. Just park near the mall and walk to the old main pedestrian crossing (east). Chaparral is closed.

I've been three times in the last month, doctor and dentist. No lines in or out. They do take temps and masks are everywhere. Farmacia right outside Mexican immigration and many others are open. These are officially "essential" destinations, no problem on US side either.
Goforbroke 9k posts, incept 2007-11-30
2020-06-05 06:36:45

Amazon bans book challenging lockdowns then reverses.
Amazon on Thursday backed away from a decision to block the sale of a self-published e-book about the coronavirus after critics, including Tesla chief executive Elon Musk, blasted the ban.

On Thursday morning, Alex Berenson, a conservative-media favorite, tweeted to his more than 118,000 followers that Amazon banned his 6,400-word booklet. The booklet, Unreported Truths about COVID-19 and Lockdowns: Part 1: Introduction and Death Counts and Estimates, argues that the mainstream media is overstating the threat from the virus. Berenson dubbed them Team Apocalypse.

It is death which gives meaning to life.
Jack_crabb 15k posts, incept 2010-06-25
2020-06-05 13:25:44

Jeff Bezos is more than welcome to EABODADIAF. I have a few other solutions if he doesn't like that particular one.

Molon Labe
Where is Henry Bowman when you need him?
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Njca 272 posts, incept 2018-10-16
2020-06-06 09:18:29

This smells of a Russian collusion scam. Follow the money. Who hired this mysterious Surgisphere data firm?
Whitehat 12k posts, incept 2017-06-27
2020-06-06 10:51:52

An interesting aside from the world of Naturopathic healthcare. Viruses are considered to be parasites by the practitioners. Many of their treatments for parasitic infections are also used for viral infections. It is a parallel with what we are seeing with Ivermectin.

One of my jokes a couple of years ago with my Naturopathic physician regards one of the treatments for parasites. It is a nasty little session even though it works. Told her that i was going to see my veterinarian and get some anti-parasite medicine and do it twice. The drug that my vet used even on herself for viral and parasitic infections: Ivermectin.

My veterinarians are way more qualified than most medical doctors.

smiley Je souhaite

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Nickdanger 1k posts, incept 2011-06-12
2020-06-06 14:03:19


I agree about veterinarians being more qualified than medical doctors. If you have ever battled getting tested and diagnosed with Lyme disease, you would understand. MDs either don't want to recognize and deal with it, or are in denial that it even exists. Veterinarians are quick to test and diagnose if a pet presents symptoms.

There is evidence that it originated in a lab at Plum Island off the east coast, so it is a real hot potato. Doctors that do effectively treat Lyme disease (yes, there are a few scattered around the country) are routinely persecuted and prosecuted for doing so. Treatments that are naturopathic are usually safer and more effective than the slew of antibiotics used allopathically.

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