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2024-10-09 07:56 by Karl Denninger
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Civil War, that is.

Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz on Tuesday called for the elimination of the Electoral College during a fundraiser in California, a move some Democrats have advocated for in the past after election defeats. 

Of course the odds of Walz (or Harris) actually managing to pull that off are slim and none -- and Slim left the building some time ago because it would require a Constitutional Amendment to do -- and plenty of people, and states, are well-aware that it would lead to immediate secession.

In 2023, the Minnesota governor signed the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, an agreement in which each state would allocate all its electoral votes to whoever wins the popular vote for president, regardless of how individual states voted. The compact would take effect only if supporters secure pledges from states with at least 270 electoral votes. 

Actually, that's unconstitutional as well -- Interstate Compacts are only permitted if Congress gives them explicit sanction, so that too is a stunt and again, it would lead to immediate secession.

Yes, I know plenty of people would like to see it go.  But the problem is that in a Constitutional Republic to make such a sweeping change and effectively enslave everyone not in a handful of states who have outsized populations you need the consent of the rest of the States.  You won't get it, and if anyone was to force it down everyone's throats those disenfranchised would have every reason -- and right -- to leave.

May I remind you that 2/3rds of Congress then 3/4 of the States would have to ratify said amendment.  They won't for obvious reasons; it would mean they would never again have national political representation at the Executive and such would be immediately followed by other shifts in the House to permanently debar them there as well.

I highly doubt that secession would be peacefully accommodated.

It certainly wasn't the last time and this time virtually everything is interconnected enough (e.g. power, communications, natural gas, etc.) that as soon as the shooting started everyone would be in the dark -- for openers.  Oh by the way, if you want just one tiny example of this the only plant that makes IV bags, run by Baxter, is in NC and currently offline.  Contemplate the outcome of a national divorce that is refused by force and suddenly nobody, anywhere, has any access to IV supplies and oh by the way refusal-by-force will of course mean a lot of people get shot and need surgery.  That's just one tiny example.

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