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 Ukraine Has LOST, And So Have We
Heartlander 3k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2022-06-13 07:53:12

Oh no...there is in fact live coverage daily. I watch every morning. It just is not from the American MSM.

Do tell. What are you watching, and where do you find it?
Kwwilson 788 posts, incept 2022-03-02
2022-06-13 07:53:19

@Heartlander -

Yes, you did.
You will have to take my word for it, but I actually went back and re-read that message to see where the differentiation was made, because I would swear I typed USSR, not Russia. In any case I did mean it to say USSR, as I absolutely agree that Stalins actions are not reflected in Russia of today, and did not mean to imply such.
I am guilty of doing no more, but I have actively tried to educate anyone willing to discuss it with me about the facts that msm omit which provide much needed context to the current -invasion-.

Behold the field which once bloomed with mercy and compassion, fucks and forgiveness; see that the earth has been salted. Nevermore will those crops be harvested here.

I didn't choose it
Abelardlindsey 2k posts, incept 2021-03-26
2022-06-13 07:53:23

Russia stopped being my enemy on December 26th, 1991.

Its all in the mitochondria.

Soylent Green is people!
Heartlander 3k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2022-06-13 07:53:27

So what is it with Sweden -- which has stayed out of military alliances since the Napoleonic wars 200+ years ago and Finland suddenly chomping at the bit to join NATO?

And what's with neutral Switzerland ditching its neutrality to join sanctions against Russia?

I know the globalist cabal is making its final power grab, but I can't figure out HOW, exactly, they are getting everyone to go along with it. What carrots are being offered or what sticks are being wielded to rope in such unlikely players as Sweden and Switzerland?

Is it something as venal as Jeffrey Epstein types having horrific dirt on the top people in those countries? Raping toddlers, then killing and eating them? WHAT, exactly?

I mean, what am I not seeing here? Sincerely seeking enlightenment from the forum members.
Heartlander 3k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2022-06-13 07:53:34

I do not think that the media have convinced the American public that this is a war that they should support.

Robert Barnes says it only SEEMS like everyone supports the Ukraine shit because the media and the politicians do. But he cited polling showing that the conservative base, at least,, does NOT support it at all. Barnes explains that their elected representatives are simply refusing to actually represent their constituents, in fact, voting directly opposite of their constituents' desires.
Heartlander 3k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2022-06-13 07:53:37

The ancestors of today's Russians were invaded by Mongols, Napoleon and Hitler. They were brutalized by Stalin and Lenin. Hard headedness has been ingrained in their DNA.

I loved that video clip a couple months back where some ditzy Western journalist was trying to shake Putin, as she went on about how the Russian citizenry was gonna freak out and go all oogity-boogity once the Western sanctions started really squeezing them. The look on Putin's face was priceless -- a combination of amusement, contempt, and... something akin to pity, like you might have for a mentally retarded child. I'll never forget his reply:
"You can't scare Russians."

This was said with no air of boasting or bravado, just as a simple statement of fact.
Mannfm11 8k posts, incept 2009-02-28
2022-06-13 07:53:40

You will probably have to sign up to read this site. Michael Yon is a war correspondent who has reported around the world. There are a lot of interesting posts on this page, many of whih deal with the brewing famine and immigration. Yon contends the mass influx of people, mainly young males is to kill us and replace us. We are being led by criminals. So much is obvious, from the shutdowns to the jabs, to the wars. It has gotten to the point that the people should be on the border stopping these people. How much Mexican and MS 13 crime is coming to America. Look at how they are not protecting the Conservative judges. Yon says there will be 1 billion to 2 billion people missing from Earth by 2030.

The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable.---John Kenneth Galbraith
Mannfm11 8k posts, incept 2009-02-28
2022-06-13 07:53:45

@Californialost: I meant the Democrats. I don't know Doug LaMalfa. The Governor belongs to the European NAZI party and thinks he is nobility. There is no nobility in America, at least in or through government.

@Heartlander: The kids was good. I don't go much YouTube, because they censored most of their good shows and those remaining hold their tongues. Just like market-ticker NAD. He had his thoughts in line didn't he.

The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable.---John Kenneth Galbraith
Afchief 70 posts, incept 2016-03-31
2022-06-13 07:53:49

We are being LIED to about this war! Anyone the Left/Socialists/Communists support...I OPPOSE!!!

President Zelensky is a very bad character who is working with globalists against the interests of his own people. I will not move one inch away from that assessmenteverno matter how flowery the media depictions of him are.

-Candace Owens

Yes, I Too Stand With Abp. Vigan and His Analysis of the Russia-Ukraine Conflict

By Dr. Paul Alexander March 18, 2022

Here, in perhaps a grossly overly simplified way, is what he said:

1.The entire conflict is a trap designed by the global Deep State to purposefully provoke a war.

2. The West knows expanding NATO upsets Russia but is doing it anyway, despite previously saying it wouldnt.

3. NATO and various other countries are illegally pouring ammunitions into Ukraine, thereby violating international law. This is making Ukraine a tinderbox ready to explode.

4.There are many economic factors at play in Ukraine gas pipelines, biolabs, technologies, etc. that make it attractive to outside parties.

5. President Zelensky is a corrupt individual acting as a puppet of Klaus Schwab and the Great Reset. He is selling out Ukraine to the West and not preventing neo-Nazi forces trained by the US from wreaking havoc on Russian-speaking Ukrainians.

6. Joe Biden has been tied to Ukraine since his time as Barack Obamas Vice President. His son Hunter is connected to the Ukrainian energy company Burisma.

7. There was a Color Revolution in Ukraine backed by George Soros and other Western groups. This has caused great social unrest since taking place in 2013/2014.

8. Rhetoric has been ratcheted up in the last several months by Zelensky (and the West) about nuclear and atomic weapons, thereby heightening Putins mistrust and prompting him to dissolve the Minsk agreement.

9. The media cannot be relied on to report about whats going on in Ukraine. Their COVID track record is proof they cant do anything but lie. They are purposefully trying to entice Westerners to support an escalation.

10. The US, EU, and NATO promise the Ukrainian people prosperity if they side with them but in reality, they seek to enslave Ukrainian citizens to the same freedom-robbing and culturally depressing policies that have destroyed the now godless West.

11. The West needs to return to Christ and seek peaceful relations with Russia so all people can live in harmony. Rome has fallen silent about the true crimes being committed across the world. Perhaps God is going to use Russia as His bulwark against the secular West.
Zorost 2 posts, incept 2022-06-13
2022-06-13 07:54:15

"...many others royally fucked up."

This is incorrect.

Everything is pretty much going according to plan for the Leftists/ globalists/ bolsheviks/ whatever you want to call them. For 100+ years they've openly said that to take over they need to create conditions of chaos and want such that the people beg for order at any cost... and so the Leftists create chaos while standing by to create order afterwards... at a steep cost in freedom. To put it another way, people stop caring about freedom when they are cold and hungry.

If you disagree, and think the Leftists are in trouble, explain what they have to lose. They don't care about the economies of nations, they care about controlling nations. They don't care about the welfare of people, they care about controlling people. They don't care if Russia 'wins,' as such a win won't threaten anything that the rootless cosmopolitans care about.
Starrynight 179 posts, incept 2021-11-26
2022-06-13 07:54:23

Here in Czechia, many if not all public buildings, including schools, offices and theaters, are flying the UKR flag. How much money did the state pay to purchase all those flags? Shouldn't our national flag fly at public buildings, not the flag of some other country? It's just another way the government shoves its policy in our face and down our throats. It is an act of propaganda, so that wherever you turn you are reminded about the war and see that your government has taken a side and is flaunting it. And I think it will be a big mistake. The Czech Defense Minister went to DC to offer to host US troops at bases in the country. Bad idea, just paints a target on our country. So does sending the T-72 tanks to UKR.

Right now there are probably at least 500,000 Ukrainians in Czechia. For a country with a population of around 10 million, that's a pretty big rapid increase. You can hear Ukrainian spoken a lot in public. I've seen mainly women and kids. Some of the teenage boys are pretty rowdy. And I suppose it's not PC to say it, but there's a lot of Roma (gypsies) among the newcomers. But there are some men, too -- there were 100-200K UKR men here before the war as migrant workers.

I don't know what the end game is, and I can't predict what'll happen in UKR. I've been following the analysis of Gonzalo Lira with interest, but I don't know if his predictions will come to pass. But, he does make a good point that Russia probably will not negotiate a cease fire or peace agreement. If Russia really succeeds in taking Donbas, Novorossia and making a "land bridge" all along the Black Sea coast to Odessa, I doubt they'll give it back. Land taken with the shedding of Russian blood like that, I think Russia will keep it. Which will isolate UKR into a land-locked "rump state" as Lira says. I have my doubts Russia would try to conquer the whole territory, including Kiev and the western part of UKR. But, we'll see how it goes.

If Russia does retain the territory it has gained, as I suspect they will, UKR will be forever changed and I wonder if the migrants who are in Czechia will go back. The Czech government gives them free phones, housing, health care, education, tickets for public transport, etc., which is a significant burden on the budget. About 40% of the migrants are said to have found jobs here. And it is possible they will make a positive contribution in various trades and professions. They are a fellow slavic country, so it's not like having mass migration from Africa. But they are different, and I'm sure criminal elements are in the mix. If they end up staying here long term, I hope they will be a net contributor to society. And, if they can't or don't want to return to UKR, it's possible many will try to migrate further West where benefits are better.
Mikivoja 38 posts, incept 2021-09-20
2022-06-13 07:54:33

I think Putin is winning, but think about it, what did Ukrainians really want - not defeating Russia, that would be ludicrously impossible, but country with no Russians in it, and they are getting exactly that with Putin's help. The only thing they can do (and they are doing excellent job at it) is making Putin's victory worthless both economically and politically. They are making sure that Putin destroys all the infrastructure, all factories, steel mills, bridges, hospitals, schools, and most important of all to displace young people that will never return to live in scorched earth place that is now eastern Ukraine.

Russians had to completely destroy Azovstal that costs billions to rebuild in order to get 2,000 soldiers - how many millions is that per soldier. What I know from ex-Yugoslavia, these refugees once displaced will never return, only old people will return because they can't find a new job anywhere else. Ukrainians smartly are putting all their equipment to be destroyed in hospitals, schools, administration buildings, so that Putin will win over empty territory without infrastructure or people worth rebuilding it for. Additionally, Zelensky is now mobilizing heavily from eastern regions so that it is Russians killing Russians, and he opened borders in the beginning so that all the people from the western Ukraine left for the EU. They purposefully trapped Putin, the same way they trapped Serbs in Yugoslavia and they were not stupid at all, he bit the bait. What other choice did he really have, because if some state doesn't want certain people on its territory they will get them out one way or the other - Jews had that experience far too many times throughout history. If Putin didn't start this war, Ukrainians would have cleansed Russians out of Ukraine, the way Croats cleansed Serbs out of Croatia, or later on from Kosovo.

As for the inflation, I think things will go back to normal, because both Chinese and Russian billionaire looters need some place to invest their loot and they don't like the place where government can kill you and take your wealth. This may happen through dark channels like the drug cartels are doing it, but the dollar will still be the king.
Bearcubs9497 111 posts, incept 2017-02-01
2022-06-13 07:54:35

For those who haven't watched that video on HIMARS posted on the first page; do so. this guy pretty much gets all of it right.
Jwm_in_sb 6k posts, incept 2009-04-16
2022-06-13 08:02:46


Amen...can't disagree with much of that.
Jwm_in_sb 6k posts, incept 2009-04-16
2022-06-13 08:02:49

Check the Patrick Lancaster YouTube channel I posted above. He's literally at tge front. Also New Atlas and the Dreizen Rrport. The Duran channel too.

Rumble has RT and this channel below is...the real's not for the faint hearted. You will dead people and live combat.

Happyapricot 163 posts, incept 2019-07-06
2022-06-13 10:37:37

Wow! I didn't realize it was as bad as a missile for a microwave.

How do you think history will judge the 30 years American wars?

Was there a meaningful purpose or objects accomplished that made the world a better place?

Or did they fight for 30 years just for political grift?
Raven 16k posts, incept 2017-06-27
2022-06-13 10:37:52

We are not discussing how this current situation is setting up a potentiality for something much worse in the future.

Russia is getting rich from the sanctions and new mineral trading agreements which will persist. They are developing a hegemony over Europe no matter how amicable this thing is ultimately resolved. Other countries like doing the kind of business they are doing with Russia especially when it gives them leverage over the US. Russia now has a direct link with the workshop of the world: China.

Russia now has the ability to super modernize at great speed as they can use the Chinese as their own slaves and environmental dumping ground as well as export any of their own inflation.

Russia never really liked China and still does not, so using them serves many purposes especially when the Chinese leadership likes to treat its own people as disposable.

No one who achieves power ever desires to give it up. Russia will emerge from this very powerful.

Russia has always wanted to be a world player as an equal or better. Some would say in justification that they earned this.

The United States exists on a bully platform as the last great superpower. Sure we would get a pasting from Russia at any time in our history, but what kept Russia from trying was our economic markets influence and nexus status. Other countries have resented this throughout the years. Without this Russia becomes a viable economic alternative, and while they are at it might as well militarily dominate problematic regions like we used to do.

China will of course look to have a growing country to takeover from our role as world consumers. Who else has the potential and culture still in place?

Russia and Eastern Europe.

The USA and the old Anglo world will not sit by for this. Russia will become stronger with China running hundreds of Manhattan projects for them.

Russia has promised China that they will finally get the chance to takeout the colonial powers who did them wrong centuries ago and up to the present. China wants to become one anyway as they demonstrate.

Russia is getting rich and China ready to decapitate us one day in the future.

We will be attacked. Screw being concerned about now or next years or piddling little economic problems. We will absorb a first-strike on our military and political centers and strongholds. China does not care about the retaliation given how they use their people and the way that they think. Russia will pin it on them, but control the fight openly.

Russia gave us a few chances after the fall of the Soviet Union to prove our honor. We lost the final chance with Ukraine. Europe will fall to Russia's side when this goes down for practical reasons as Russia will be integral to their existence by then.

Our bigger problem is not that we cannot make what we need in border, but that we will have nothing to export as an equal world trading partner. Russia can export for the next few hundred years, and whatever is left of China can make what the world needs.

The USA will be forced into a position of pondering what it has to offer the world after military and resource and world power games are no longer a factor. Europe will exist as a cultural wellspring where its ancient history and cultures reseed the ideas and advancements of humanity thus justifying its existence and preserved status which Russia will support. Russia is not stupid and knows that the White Western World is from where the advancements in the civilization which they want ultimately originate.

Russia is closely enough related to the Asiatics to know what they will do, how to use them and to have enough internal distaste to never want to be them.

In the process of today we are arming Russia, enriching them and giving them more justification for their actions in what will seem like a few short years.

Today's situation is acting like a layaway payment plan for Russia's, in concert with China, nuclear and advanced weaponry first strike on us which will be devastating and forever alter our trajectory. Remember that SE Asia, Eastern Europe, even African nations know that this is coming for us. They sit pretty as they know that they will never be targets, and Russia is not going to care to take over the world.

The whole world knows that we are sitting ducks, fish in a barrel, painted targets and are just waiting until we get ours at the worst time in our economic history with no core competence. We have offended many in the world, always assuming that they were second and third world, and truthfully, they unable to do anything about it. Nice thing about them being small and not powerful is that they do not have a target on them. They are past, current and future trading partners with Russia and company not targets for takeover.

When will you know that this is coming? When one sees Eastern Europeans begin to repatriate back to their homelands. It will be a trough the grapevine type warning. You will see a massive Chinese investment here, greater than any now. They are used to misery, chaos and making do, and would love to stake claims and make something out of the chaos even with risk to themselves and their families. Yes, they will purchase and develop interests in target areas figuring if they survive, they thrive.

Americans will find out that our CONUS is not worth invading or taking over much to the chagrin of those preparing for said. Yes, it is impossible but more so improbable. Few key areas and resources will be easier to buy than take as said will sell to the highest bidder anyway. What do we have here other than old stuff and unimproved land. Our culture, society, laws, industriousness, standards and people used to be our wealth, and we have all seen how we have squandered this resource. Why invade us to have to babysit us when they can just sit back and watch us enjoy mediocrity and some even starve. Perhaps the Chinese will uses some vasts swaths of land to grow things not after taking it but after buying it when we have nothing else to offer.

Once a massive shock and awe is performed on our last bastion of strength, the power centers and the military, we have nothing. Russia is going to use all of its wealth to mitigate any response from us including providing proof that if we do not absorb said without reprisal, our citizenry gets eliminated. Did not think of that, did you? Our current long range weaponry cannot depopulate as much as we like to think that it can. We know this, Russia knows this, so does China.

Expect that after this Ukraine mess is over for Russia to go on a weapons and military development binge with China the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

We are going to be forced to take our lesson and swallow whole, with no chance of reprisal.

And, we created just the situation for Russia to get the wealth to do it. Soon, Russia will be our competitor as will China and SE Asia for necessary industrial resources. What will we use to purchase these things? Humm ... our inflation?

There is no way out. It is baked in the cake. Russia got a taste of victory and likes it. If you are less than seventy years old, probably less than sixty, you will probably live to see a nuclear first-strike on CONUS. Your children will.

And, you and your children will see USA inc fold and not retaliate unaware of the harsh reality that it will be the only way to avoid total annihilation.

This is merely submitted for consideration and for other comment posters to add to the discussion if it serves them to do so. I do not intend to go back and forth with anyone regarding this particular comment post. I respect the wisdom and opinions of many people here and elsewhere and look forward to their contributions.

IMO you have more time than you think, more important things to consider than the current economic concerns and limited options.

Mission Complete

The truth is just too powerful to know. Those who hold the truth suffer more than those who believe the lie. -The Hall of Tears
Boredfree 1k posts, incept 2021-09-15
2022-06-13 12:33:00

I'm an optimist and in my fantasy world I can see Russia taking a cue from the way America grew using immigrants. But rather than just accepting anyone, have high standards for new settlers.

Wouldn't it be interesting to see what might be accomplished in Russia with fresh brains and blood?

How many potential entrepreneurs are waiting in the wings for a true free market to emerge?

Image how a vibrant civilization could be moulded in such an environment?

Sigh, but then I remember we're dealing with humans who enjoy being unhappy and controlled - as long as there is someone lower on the pecking order to kick, shame, exploit or best yet, all three.

The problem is most people want to point a finger rather than their thumb when dealing with challenges.
Dbigkahunna 869 posts, incept 2010-01-10
2022-06-13 12:33:39

Mann, the saving grace of wild game may be all the wild hogs. You are not going to take a .22 and do anything but piss them off. They have moved into the Llano up from the Brazos and Colorado breaks. Those dirty bastards are raising hell in the peanut fields out here. Fifteen or twenty of them can destroy 10 acres of peanuts in a night. The local immigrant Germans are heavy into IR hunting them but are not making a dent in the population of eastern Gaines/Andrews and western Dawson/Martin. I have a little cottage business sharpening butchering implements for the immigrant Germans. One of the local Mennonite butchers makes some great fresh sausage using them but he can't sell it. Texas Parks is at their wits end trying to get the population under control. They get up in the pheasant country, it will put the end to pheasant hunting on the south plains. Another area the TP&WL is concerned is the wild hogs getting in the upper Palo Duro crossing the Canadian River then spreading to NE New Mexico and southern Colorado.

Blessed, Grateful and Living a Dream
Mannfm11 8k posts, incept 2009-02-28
2022-06-13 12:33:48

@Whitehat: The west is waging war against its own people and has been using war to enslave us. They have been doing this for decades and there has been a literal surrender to China. While the Western political class has run out of places to loot and placed its faith on preserving ice in territories that never warm up to freezing, China has tied up the resources of the world. The Democrat/RINO war on Russia took out the last major source of oil. A deindustrialized western world, more interested in spying on its own people has ceded minerals to China. Woke=starvation.

I don't think we can talk economics. Look at the markets today. 100 SPX points is $1 trillion. Markets usually don't collapse in June, but I doubt the US has ever had politicians so intent on destroying its own people. Yields are up 18 BP on 10 and 30 year bonds today and the market is off another 2%. 18 BP is about 3% on the 30. There is another trillion. Black Monday was $500 billion. We haven't even touched the rest of the market.

Inflation is going to stop, because paper wealth is about to collapse. We haven't even seen the end of the last bubble, real estate, mainly residential. Today adds anothe point plus to the cost of a mortgage and mortgages are a future commitment, meaning we likely see a 1/2% move in rates, overnight.

I can tell you first hand there is a mania here in housing. I cannot even begin to estimate how much of the market is speculation. I will tell you solicitation of my property has moved from mass mailers to direct texts and calls. I have never advertised my phone number, but I suspect it has been captured by something I filled out. Prices are up here 50% in the past 2 years and that follows 5 strong years of prices. Land has gone ballistic. These things never end well.

There is a massive problem here. Goods aren't being produced. That means we are in the midst of a delusion. We can't have long term hyperinflation, as long as debts are considered valid and the very invalidity of debt puts the entire system in collapse. German hyperinflation was the result of printing money to pay debts where gold was due. You can't print gold despite the delusion they can have gold backed currency and make believe the gold is there. The mark probably had a link to gold, but you can't print resources.

I think we are in a forced collapse and an intentinal emergency. You can't make up the series of screw ups and the denial of mistakes we are watching. This is a trainwreck, where the engineer steps on the gas and puts on a blindfold. Ukraine is just a timely distraction from what these criminals are doing.

The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable.---John Kenneth Galbraith
Dingleberry 878 posts, incept 2011-11-06
2022-06-13 13:06:00

@ Mannfm11,

Correct, the war is waged against ourselves by traitors, and their use of useful idiots who carry the treasonous load and propagandized the low-IQs to demand their own destruction (the leftist media and voting demographic, the sexually deviant, the SJW, etc.).

You cannot have a real nation when 50% of it hates itself. My only hope is that economic pain brings some of them to sanity.

Otherwise, I hope the jab takes out the trash.

Either way, I'm good.
Eleua 22k posts, incept 2007-07-05
2022-06-13 14:07:56


11. The West needs to return to Christ and seek peaceful relations with Russia so all people can live in harmony. Rome has fallen silent about the true crimes being committed across the world. Perhaps God is going to use Russia as His bulwark against the secular West.

Your list is spot on. #11 is one that may bring smiley from many, especially those of us born into the nihilistic, materialistic world of the post WW2 West. After all, does a fish know it is in water?

Recently, I have been able to visit Europe as part of my work duties. While many go out boozing, I prefer to look at the ancient Christian cathedrals. There is a sense of awe that is difficult to describe. It doesnt exist in the US. Even the US National Cathedral in DC falls short. This has served to show me that I am making to a fish that now notices the water that has surrounded me for my entire life.

Secularism and materialism doesnt work for beings that are inherently spiritual. It may look like it works in short durations, but it never does. Why? Here is a largely secular explanation of why secularism doesn't work with us. It's worth the 4 minutes.

Upshot: take away man's genuine anagogic motivations and he will naturally pursue surrogate forms of spirituality that evil men can control and define. Conservative "Libertarianism" is just as toxic and empty as liberal collectivism.

I don't know why YT has this age restricted. There is absolutely nothing in this that isn't all over YT 24/7, other than the curators of YT (cough...cough...ADL...cough...cough...pedophiles...cough...) don't want people to look too closely at the Ruling Class.

Diversity + proximity = WAR

-The facts do not care about your narrative. The "GREAT NOTICING" continues apace.
Heartlander 3k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2022-06-13 14:45:04


It's gonna take some time and a couple re-readings to really process your analysis, which I can only hope is flawed, since it's depressing as hell.

One thing you definitely get right -- and which, incredibly, many people seem to miss, since they don't know any history -- is that China DOES NOT CARE about its own people, not as individual lives. It never has. People in any Western country -- which despite our decay still coasts on the fumes of Christianity, with its core concept of individual human dignity -- simply can't grasp how ALIEN the Chinese worldview really is to our own. Leave aside Communism, which is a very recent arrival. In the millennia-old Confucian worldview, the individual is subsumed within the family and community. This is NOT the same as Christian family values or Christian communitarianism. Any resemblance is on the surface only. The animating spirit or essence is entirely different.

All of which is to say that I agree with you, alas, that Chinese leaders would be perfectly willing to see tens of millions or even hundreds of millions of their own citizens perish, if that's what it takes to eliminate the U.S. once and for all. Break eggs to make an omelet -- wasn't it Mao who originated that phrase?

I also agree with your point that Russia sees itself as hugely distinct from China, that it finds China distasteful and does not want to ever be subsumed by them. I would go further and say that many in Russia see Russia as the last remaining bulwark of Christian civilization, from whence will eventually spread the re-Christianization of the now-pagan West. I don't necessarily agree with that view, I'm just stating the view of many in Russia -- including, quite possibly, Mr. Putin.

I rejoice to see Russia strengthening its ties with Africa, where Christianity is vital and energetic, in contrast to the decadent, dispirited, now self-hating lands formerly known as "Christendom." I know very well that Russia's reasons for seeking closer ties with Africa are pragmatic and strategic. But on a personal cosmic/spiritual level, I can't help but rejoice to see stronger bonds between THE two great landmasses where Christianity is currently actually GROWING.

And Russia-Africa development comes just in the nick of time, for China has steadily been turning Africa into one big Chinese colony. Ditto South America, but that is another story.
Starrynight 179 posts, incept 2021-11-26
2022-06-13 14:45:18

@Whitehat - one question I have after reading your analysis is, what is and what will be the relationship between Russia and Eastern Europe? At the moment, at least my country has taken a firm anti-Russian stance. Even our president, who before the war was considered pro-Russian, now calls for war crimes tribunals against the Russians. I am not an expert on foreign relations in the region, but I think Poland is not too friendly to Russia, the Baltics are not, Bulgaria and Romania seem to have really embraced their NATO membership ... The main allies of Russia in the region, as far as I know, are Belorussia, Serbia, and maybe North Macedonia? I am not sure about Moldova. People talk about Hungary being friendly to Russia, but the relationship seems more expedient and limited than "friendly". And with Sweden and Finland now allying themselves with NATO, that's two more countries near Russia that are not on friendly terms. One elderly Czech to told me: "Nothing good ever comes from the East."
Raven 16k posts, incept 2017-06-27
2022-06-13 15:08:07

@Starrynight -- what a politician says is not necessarily what he means nor is it what the people he serves desire, want or feel now or in the future. Talk to the people in the towns of these places you mention from varying age groups and discover that the sentiment is not as stated or monolithic.

This is why relations between countries seem to turn on a dime. The truth is always under pressure. China is hated by Russians, yet they are doing and will do great things with each other until the repressed truth comes out.

It was a direct question, and so the response.

@Eleua -- great post and video.

Mission Complete

The truth is just too powerful to know. Those who hold the truth suffer more than those who believe the lie. -The Hall of Tears

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