The only thing that's going to stop the insanity is if a lot of high profile "important" people start getting it in the ass soon from taking the jab. Which makes me wonder if all the "important" people especially politicians didn't actually get vaccinated but are lying their asses off (that can't happen right?). The rest of the population are nothing but lab rats to them. There is no reason to think that they don't know EVERYTHING that Karl knows about this shit. They have access to all the data and information before anyone else does. In the long run it won't save them if a decent amount of people figure it all out, but in the meantime they are doubling and tripling down on the propaganda. Watching the CBS morning show this morning was unfreakin believable.
KD, I wish you would link to sources for your 5 bullet points, I'm trying to search for them but either don't know the right key words or these things are being significantly obscured from casual search results.
Especially data on the vax damaging natural T-cell immunity? Is that the right way to say it? Sigh.. I am not a medical professional, I only wish I was one in real life right now...
well, one way to look at it is that like most other things in this country, the thoughtful, smart, hard working, responsible and disciplined usual chumps will be the ones paying for it.
Welfare crowd, we pay for it. Single mothers, we pay for it. Poor health after a life of bad decisions, we pay for it. Selfishness, we pay for it.
Only the most recent member here would not understand the mechanisms of how we pay for it.
Thus, the un-vexxed who can still function and go on with life will likely be presented with the bills which include among other things all of the disability and other subsidized medical costs associated with the irresponsible crowd's decisions here.
Hey, if it gets really fucking bad and the place turns to shit, it will be those of us not sick who might be struggling to restore order and keep the lights on.
Trust me, healthy people will not be that spiteful as to want to live in privation. Does it not always seem to work out this way.
Seems like more of the same to me.
I have a cure, kind of a magic bullet for this whole thing. REQUIRE all government workers to get the full specified dose(s) of the vexxine.
WHY HAS THIS NOT HAPPENED YET. Hello POS; it's your turn.
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Aztrader, I pray to God that I am wrong but my gut tells me that there is more to this also. I hate to say it, but it seems like a population control - New World Order thing to me. Or maybe just plain pure evil from the bastions of hell.
Karl, India is jabbing at a very rapid rate. There is vaccination camp and ads running everywhere. In colleges too they are holding mass vaccination camps. India has covered over 400 million people with at least one dose. So, scary!!!
In all of my siblings family every one has got it. Its only my family spared now. From my wife's side too.
I don't know what more can be said at this point. Karl is preaching to the choir at Market Ticker. Folks have made up their minds and that is that. People who have made the decision to get vaxxed cannot undo that decision. Who knows if the damage can be mitigated.
The people I know who took the jabb are walking around seemingly without a care in the world. They think they are protected - and don't try to tell them otherwise. End of subject. These folks are mad at those who refuse the jabb.
The vaxx is bad on so many different levels. If it isn't an immediate adverse reaction, then maybe the damage emerges a few months down the road with cardiac, neurological or clotting disorders. Or maybe OAS or ADE or prion related illness or auto immune diseases or cancer.
Take your pick. How may of those 150 million Americans will be alive in one year? three years? five years? ten years? How many will be sterile? How many will be permanently disabled?
And how is all of this going to impact the survivors? Supply chain disruption? Adverse impact on food production and supply? Loss of critical workers in skilled trades and professions? Collapse of the health care system? Orphans?
It seems to me that these idiots have unleashed a modern day plague - not from the virus itself but from the supposed treatment for the virus. Buckle up folks. We are in completely uncharted territory.
Very early on I saw a small cluster of infections among hospital workers in Minnesota. I predicted that in 7-10 days there would be a monster community spike. It happened exactly as predicted, which had only one explanation -- the hospital workers were the vector into the population and infected a shit-ton of people.
Which makes perfect sense if you think about it. Nobody goes to the hospital unless they already have something bad happening, which means the hospital workers are infecting those who will get fucked.
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And the pressure on the FDA to approve is on. Even the POTUS is now commenting that the FDA may approve by school opening season/ Putting the word out to the public to drive his conclusion. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-e....]
I know the system is corrupt. But the FDA really cannot give full approval for these vaccines if the follow their own standards because there is no control group that has been actively monitored. Since having a control group for vaccine studies is considered unethical (people being denied treatment for a disease), the standard for vaccine approval is a minimum of 5 years, usually 10 years, before approval is given.
We will know the system is utterly rotten if the FDA gives full approval for these vaccines anytime in the next 2-3 years.
I'm wondering if the Biden Administration and the media lackeys' are just talking out their asses in this link.
My business partner's 35 year old brother in law died while swimming in Sequoia National Park. His family had gone climbing nearby and watched helplessly as he went into a seizure and drowned.
He got his second jab a few weeks prior to "be safe" and "get back to normal". Since then he had neuropathy in his hands and feet as well as balance issues. Doctors were unsure what could cause his condition and of course his death is listed as drowning.
He was active and had no risk factors for the coof... He had no reason to take the jab but did. He did it out of fear and out of a desire to fit in. Just like everyone wearing masks. The data and evidence are there for anyone to see but too many people want to justify their fear and their reaction.
I hear stories like above and think of all the people who will be affected and it breaks my heart. But I also think of the people who violently argued to be masked, controlled and experimented on. So while it breaks my heart it's also fleeting... I have no control over what others do so no point getting too upset over what comes.
I have mixed feelings about the fall and winter. While I don't wish anyone dead I will likely take some pleasure in reading the obituaries section...
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I don't wish anyone dead, but I will chuckle in amusement while reading some obituaries...
@Oldpool - It SHOULD NOT, as the tests SHOULD key on both pieces of the spike AND nucleocapsid. You should have to register positive for BOTH on amplification to get a positive test.
In theory anyway.
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Hospital workers were always a major vector with this and other things.
Now it is worse. If things go a certain way with non-sterilizing immunity and/or mutations exclusive to the vexxed, the hospital workers could be a super-spreader vector.
Well, if we go all ancient in some great fall of modernity, there was always an untouchable class.
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"How are you feeling? Kind of under the weather? Like you've got the flu?"
@Whitehat - As I've related here before when my mother was in the hospital a few years ago having a colon resection (cancer) I went absolutely apeshit on a few nurses and doctors who came into her room or across the surgical waiting area after seeing another patient without washing their hands.
They looked at me like I had six heads; the woman was in there with cancer for God's sake and over 80 years old on top of it. We kill 100,000 people every single fucking year with nosocomial infections and I will be Goddamned to Hell if I was going to let her be one of them.
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Civil Society requires 99%+ consent. Stop consenting and it is forced to stop. Always. No violence required.
We need some critical percentage of people to understand what is happening but, there is a problem. Consider how stupid the average person is, now imagine half them are dumber than that.
The people I know who took the jab are walking around seemingly without a care in the world. They think they are protected - and don't try to tell them otherwise. End of subject. These folks are mad at those who refuse the jab.
If they thing they are protected, why should they give a rats ass about those who refuse the vaccine? After all, vaccines work, don't they?
I have yet to get flak for not getting vaccinated. Given my milieu, I don't expect to. But this will one of my responses to them if I do.
KD, I wish you would link to sources for your 5 bullet points, I'm trying to search for them but either don't know the right key words or these things are being significantly obscured from casual search results.
Especially data on the vax damaging natural T-cell immunity? Is that the right way to say it? Sigh.. I am not a medical professional, I only wish I was one in real life right now...
Traz, the journals are censoring papers right now, the T-cell replacement has to be interpreted from the data in the studies. Specifically, the T-cell study Karl is referencing, was demonstrating how robust the T-cell response to the spike was in the vaccinated, someone reading that paper without background knowledge will draw the wrong conclusions.
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"I've seen people go into real poverty trying to pretend to be rich."
I honestly do not expect any of the people pushing the vaxx to be held accountable. At least not in a court of law. Accountability will likely be as a result of vigilante justice. Someone who has nothing left to lose literally loses it and seeks out those responsible.
My hope is that the vaccine damage is significant enough so that it cannot be denied and is obvious to all. My fear is that if only a small percentage of the vaxxed become seriously ill and/or die, it will be the unvaxxed who will be blamed. That will present an entirely different set of issues and problems.
My other fear is that the FDA will grant approval/ license for the vaxx despite the massive number of injuries and death. If that happens, it will emboldened employers and others to mandate the jabb. All bets are off if that happens.
Will we have French style protests in the United States? Will we have a two tiered society? We live in interesting times.
@Purplefang - if you want a fantastic lesson in viral epidemiology, vaccinology and evolutionary biology, and specifically in the context of these death shots, I highly recommend investing the time watching Dr. Bret Weinstein and Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche discussing this subject:
The only thing I would add to Karl's excellent article is that there is no mechanism within the death shots to stop the primary infection via the respiratory tract, so it is hardly surprising that the Absolute Risk Reduction may be as low as 0.00006% (from this article - https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/9/7/693/h.... - which was "retracted" but actually censored).
Natural immunity, on the other hand, uses memory cells in the respiratory tract that stops the virus preemptively.
The possibility that the death stabs may actually be deleting T-Cell immunity suggests that the "operating system" of Moderna is real, and that this may lead to "Immune System as a Service". I have wondered if we would get to a Malange from the Dune novels scenario with all this. In other words, pay your subscription for your next stab or die.
My main concern re: stupidity is this: If you truly believe the Rona and Coof to be a super-deadly virus and disease, then why on Earth do you want to induce your body to create the most pathogenic and cytotoxic part of the virus, and from the most dangerous (and now extinct) Wuhan variant?
The entire premise of "protecting others" by getting vaccinated against Covid-19 is now scientifically known to be complete and utter bullshit.
Thats exactly what the "whole of government" Covid response has been, a steaming load of b.s. The house organs of propaganda are just as guilty also. I've completely tuned them out these days (a thief and a whore are the perfect representatives of this illegitimate government).
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"The higher I go, the crookeder it gets." --Michael Corleone. "We now live in a nation where doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the press destroys information, religion destroys morals and our banks destroy the economy."--Chris Hedges
I guarantee that if the vaccinated start dying in large numbers, they will blame the unvaccinated. There's no way they will accept that it was a mistake or that they got bad advice from "the experts."
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