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Abelardlindsey
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My bet is the rise in cases that is happening now follows the ssame pattern as last summer, we'll peak in August and be done with it the first of October, if I'm remembering last year's trend correctly. Then we'll see another pick up in December following last winter's trend. It will be interesting to see the percentage of "vaccinated" people that get reinfected and hospitalized this winter.


My, but aren't you the optimist.

Nevertheless I hope that you are correct. I'd rather not have any more masking and shutdowns, and I'm damned sure not taking any of these vaccines.

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Most commented ticker of all time :):):). Awesome! It is an indication of how much this topic is important to a whole lot of people. Many thanks to our host for tirelessly doing this.
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I dont know that the mareks thing will happen. First 80% already have some immunity. Second, chickens are dumb. They were not taking vit d, zinc, vit c, and ivermectin.

I think I will try to get stats from my school district on how many students took the jab. By end of august I should have a clearer picture on whether my dd will be enrolled or not.

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"Herd immunity"?!? Fuck me, how in HELL does anyone in their right mind think that you can get "herd immunity" from a non-sterilizing pseudo-vaccine?


By having watched too many cheesey 1970s TV shows. And probably thinking that non-sterilizing means it won't cause their balls to fall off.
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Which is even dumber cause it collects in the sex organs and may cause fertility issues.

Safe and effective though. /sarc
Kickthecan
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I dont know that the mareks thing will happen. First 80% already have some immunity.


Wasn't there some discussion here, backed up by a research paper, that the jabs might weaken or remove the cross-immunity in the 80% who have it?

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Yes, if you already have immunity and take the jab, I dont think it will be good. But if you are in the 80% and dont take the jab, and are following the supplement protocol, and using common sense, and are healthy, I dont think the mareks situation will occur.

But I have to say, if 150 million Americans die or become chronically ill, things will change drastically in this country. And thats just the vaxxed. Spread to another 50m unhealthy vit d deficient unvaxxed, and things look even worse. It would a total collapse. Hell, the entire west will collapse.

If someone wanted to reduce world population, this wasnt the way to do it. The rich will be fucked too. They will no longer have a middle class buffer to insulate them from the masses. They wont even be able to venture out of their compounds with any degree of safety.

Will be some upsides thoughsince most of educators and academia have taken the vax, wont have to worry about marxist indoctrination or college bills anymore. There wont be any revenue for the pols to collect. The pharma and medical industry will collapse because a lot took the vax and people will no longer trust them. They will be lower on the totem pole than ambulance chasing lawyers. Hollywood will collapse because they wont be dying because they probably only took saline. People wont forget that.

This is going to be a real mess.

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All I got is.

Wel ............... CRAP !!!!!!!!
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We're on vacation.
DH just got word from coworkers multiple people sick/positive.

I KNOW I had it already, pretty sure DH did, but not completely confident. So I just did a small dose for me little pony and he did a little larger than normal dose. Already taking D, C and zinc. Starting him on NAC and Quercetin.

Not even sure why lofl?
It's a fucking cold that we've already had.

I feel like I have bought into the hype, lol.

Still going on our trip, we don't gaf.

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@Auldsnu, add in the example of the Diamond Princess and others where proof exists that a majority of people were already immune.

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@Susanlauren. Thanks, Susanlauren, I appreciate it greatly, especially the last paragraph.

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You are welcome, Auldsnu.
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I think the problem is that for the vaxxed it may not be "just a damn cold," if weakened immune system it could be a death sentence. Sicker than sick. For the unvaxxed, those with pre-existing immunity and those who caught the coof, it may end up as an inconvenience and they may not feel well, but it likely will not be life threatening. That is what I think will be the scenario going forward.
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I wanna post a positive comment to bolster maybe some. I feel the point of the lockdowns is/was to keep us from getting encouragement from others in our circle of friends and acquaintances. They want us to feel alone and scared, hence also the social non-media censoring. But you are not alone, please preach this to everyone you know who feels they are the only ones - they are not and should take courage from that.

I have two boys in the military and the pressure is on, but when it becomes mandatory they will either take **** duty or allow themselves to be drummed out. And they have not finished their first enlistment contract. They tell me there are other young enlisted in their shops, and I hear officer corps, who will not take the stroke shot. FOr one of my sons he knows already when the take it or else order comes it will cost him an assignment he wanted but he does not care and understands his health is more important than some temporary assignment no matter how desired. Problem he worries about is if they drum him out he may have to repay an enlistment bonus. He got a decent bonus for a in-demand field though he only received in his account about 70% of the bonus thanks to taxes, and he is afraid he will be on the hook for 100% of the bonus if it has to be paid back. They get you coming and going but he won't take it and mom and I may have to help him pay back the bonus if push comes to shove.

Thing I don't get is if only roughly 33 - 50 % of the population is vaccinated and there are KNOWN heart effects on young people, especially young men, what will they do if only half of the military gets the jab, what if 2/3 refuse in keeping with general trends? Do they not want us to have a functioning military service? OK they want us not fighting fit, but what of the so called humanitarian service stuff that they do that civilians cannot? What a clown show.
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Ceiii2000 wrote..
By the way some history editing for you to read. Go to the history portion. I know it is Wikipedia and most of their facts are garbage, just note the editing from June 14th to June 16th.

Stalin would be proud of Wikipedia.
 

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@Uwe - I can't remember the name for that short guy. Who got photoshopped out?

@Ceiii2000 - Robert W. Malone and P. Felgner have been omitted. Hmmm

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@Bluebird

"Nikola Yezhov, a secret police official who oversaw Stalins purges. He was involved in the interrogation and execution of thousands of Communist Party officials who fell afoul of Stalin. But the tables turned in 1938, and Yezhov fell out of favour with Stalin. He was executed"

https://bettermarketing.pub/how-joseph-s....

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An update on my vaccine policy situation:

I had applied for a medical exemption. HR replied that I needed to get a form signed by my doctor, which basically had a yes/no for him to check and sign. They did not want to know the medical reasons.

I finally got in to see my doctor last week. In short, he stated he'd sign it if he could - but his hospital system (Cleveland) forbids it. He knows two doctors at Cleveland who were fired for signing patient medical exemption forms. What a crock.

So, I'm still complying with the policy: no travel, customer meetings or company events. I'm in the sales org and while I am sick of travel, it is impacting my job a bit.

Until yesterday, there has been no word from HR on the current policy, or any new policies to be implemented. Yesterday, HR emailed a reminder that anyone going to a company event needs to be vaxxed, and provided a link to upload your proof of vaccination.

We have a Sales Kick Off meeting coming up in February. I guess I won't be going. I don't know how my vaxxed bossman is going to react. I lead a team and should be there.

I won't be taking the vax. I'm willing and able to travel - the company has told me not to. That's how I look at it.



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n short, he stated he'd sign it if he could - but his hospital system (Cleveland) forbids it. He knows two doctors at Cleveland who were fired for signing patient medical exemption forms


So, in essence, the doctor cannnot properly practice medicine. And this vaccine is 100% safe for 100% of people in 100% of circumstances? Go fuck yourselves, Cleveland hospital system.

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Molon Labe
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That's Malpractice with a capital M if true.

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Only if there is Rule of Law, @Lemonaid

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Molon Labe
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So a question to the forum members on my situation:

I haven't told HR that my doctor couldn't sign the form yet. I feel like I'm under the radar right now, and maybe shouldn't pop my head up.

On the other hand, they did tell me to let them know the results of my doctor visit - but that last communication with them on the topic was in September.

Any advice, thoughts, are greatly appreciated.

FWIW, I'm a top performer. If I close the business I think I can in the next couple weeks I will be THE top performer for the year. I am expecting to have to tell them to drop this crap or fuck off at some point, maybe now's the time...
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I would volunteer EXACTLY NOTHING, @Nolaguy

Make the fuckers work for it. (And if it were me, they would get nothing and fire me.) Or maybe our genial host's letter.

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Molon Labe
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@Nolaguy I'd already be looking for another job if possible. And they deserve no notice when quitting. These companies mandating would be looking to replace you if they could.
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