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Eleua 23k posts, incept 2007-07-05
2021-07-24 15:24:04

I get it. Holocaust...bad...really bad. Therefore, we need to link all bad things back to that, because playing "pin the Nazi on your opponent" has essentially been the mainstay of US politics for 75 years.

If you wanted a better (by a wide, wide margin) historical example, go 20 years earlier to just East of the Holocaust area, and look at the massive, massive state-sponsored genocide there. It has the Holocaust narrative beat by several multiples, and depending on what sources you read, almost an order of magnitude.



If you want to know what drove the Nazis crazy, it was the thought that this was coming to them next, given that the Kulaks were ethnic Germans. Look up Holodomor, and avoid the Wiki entry, as it is curated by people defending the perpetrators.

History is pointless without context.

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Diversity + proximity = WAR

-The facts do not care about your narrative. The "GREAT NOTICING" continues apace.
Imhotep 1k posts, incept 2013-07-18
2021-07-24 16:28:49

Retired Ver buddy not doing well at all. Family is trying to transfer him to MUSC, but they wont unless a doctor will accept him. Daughter and her husband went to see him and said the doctor and nurse were talking bad/making fun of him. Wife of Buddy called down there (she has Covid, but doing well) and nurse spoke to her like shit and said thats just the way she isblunt.

Wife says they are not doing much or providing any care. Another Covid patient is in same room.

This shit is beyond belief. Wife was calling my dads buddy to see if he could get some political pull or someone that can make something happen.

I did learn that Buddy was in bus wreck years back and had damage to his diaphragm and that wasnt helping nowcant really cough or whatever to clear lungs out. Oxygen sat drops whenever he tries to do anything.

Invisiblesun 884 posts, incept 2020-04-08
2021-07-24 16:29:26

Is there an agency of the Federal government that actually serves the interests of the American people?

For we have an FBI that organizes violence against fellow Americans and then blames other Americans for it.

And the government health agencies are hellbent on destroying the physical and mental health of the citizenry.

Government organizations have made failure and destruction their mission statement. And why not? The better they do at breaking things the more they get to claim they are needed.

Cmoledor 3k posts, incept 2021-04-13
2021-07-24 16:29:34

Sort of off topic but not really. Karl ( or anyone else) have you heard about the judge in Franklin county Ohio who is giving lighter sentences on condition that they get the jab? Anyone know how in Gods name is that even close to legal? Not that the law matters anymore really. Just absolute tyranny. Id rather do my time than get the jab. But this is just fucking crazy.

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The whole world is one big fucking scam
Its a big club and we aint in it. But we damn sure pay the dues. Rangeishot
God will NOT help anyone. Prayer is only worthwhile as a boost to
Pseudofed 23 posts, incept 2021-07-22
2021-07-24 16:35:05

She is apparently 56 though looks 80. She and her husband were both intubated, and he is still ventilated.

"Henry and her family chose to not get inoculated. Henry said they felt because of their rural location and lifestyle, their risk of exposure was low."

Which doesn't even sound like a remotely plausible reason anyone would have. Lifestyle is why you don't vaccinate your infant the day it is born with Hep B vaccines.
Inline
Tickerguy 202k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2021-07-24 16:36:00

Unvaccinated 400lb nursing bitch tells everyone who DIDN'T ruin their own health to do so.

Let me tell you what MY answer is: FUCK YOU.

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"Perhaps you can keep things together and advance playing DIE games.
Or perhaps the truth is that white men w/IQs >= 115 or so built all of it and without us it will collapse."
Heartlander 3k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2021-07-24 17:53:29

@Omegapoint
Quote:
If there comes a time, which I don't believe there will be, where they physically force people to get the phony "vaccine"

In China, for decades now, they have had forced abortions -- all the way through the ninth month. This has involved government workers coming to a woman's home, physically overwhelming her, and dragging her to an abortion clinic and tying her down. As she screams and kicks and fights. As neighbors watch and hear.

And those they don't manage to drag away in time... their houses have been burned down. Their children have been denied all rights and services, including school and health care. The husbands have been denied employment. These families are left to rely on the mercy of relatives.

And Joe Biden, years ago, BEFORE he had dementia, said he "doesn't judge" China -- they have an overpopulation problem and they "do what they have to do."

Never underestimate the evil of which people are capable.

And contrary to popular belief, it CAN happen here.

Heartlander 3k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2021-07-24 17:53:48

@Quantum
Quote:
However, a lot of people who haven't taken the plunge yet are just moderately concerned about possible side effects, afraid of shots in general, or don't perceive themselves to be at risk. I would expect that coercive measures like what we see ramping up could and will lead to a lot of them being vaccinated.


BINGO. I agree completely. We ain't seen nothin' yet. The screws are REALLY going to be tightened. They are coming for us.
Imhotep 1k posts, incept 2013-07-18
2021-07-24 17:53:56

Buddy May be talking crap to the docshe would fit right in here at TFjust to clear up. Might be why they are making fun. Just getting texts from his wife now, but still a serious situation.

Anyways, Bannon shows today are about the dirty dozen of misinformation. Just got back to the lake from farm and finished first show. Good listen to those interested.

https://rumble.com/vk9rmy-episode-1120-d....
Okiedale 49 posts, incept 2018-01-23
2021-07-24 18:07:39

@Tickerguy "Oh look, the Jews became the Nazis."

Just ensuring Adolph completes his FINAL SOLUTION award postmortem.
Edwardteach 407 posts, incept 2021-05-01
2021-07-24 18:59:46

@Pseudofed If she's 56 and looks like that, her problem isn't Covid, not by a damn sight. And the franken-jab isn't going to make her healthy either.

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Know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with until you understand who's in ruttin command here.
Kikknback 1k posts, incept 2020-03-17
2021-07-24 18:59:56

The level of lying propaganda being distributed through all sources of Government, Medical, and Media to encourage innocent citizens to walk into the showers is astounding.

The death toll coming will bring the entirety of the supply chain to a screeching halt, and you better have land you can grow enough food on to survive.

The guilt trips, peer pressure, coercion to brainwash the citizens with lies is sickening. The medical employees's statements in the article below are sickening to read to those who know the truth of these shots being a Genocide / Bioweapon.

Half way through that article, you'll see a "bold" sentence they have already removed from the article concerning people getting truth from Social Media before it is removed. That happened while I was posting this. They removed the tie to Social Media from this article to distance this article from the fact Government and Social Media are working in concert to censor / remove facts being posted to alert citizens to the deathly danger of these shots, and the rising death rates of the people who have received these BIOWEAPON DESIGNED DEADLY SHOTS.

These NAZI are steadily tweaking the propaganda to fit their lying narrative they want distributed to brainwash the citizens with the lie the shots are safe, and are the only way forward to get past the [cough] pandemic.

New York Times wrote..

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/24/us/co....

They Waited, They Worried, They Stalled. This Week They Got the Shot.

By Julie Bosman July 24, 2021Updated 10:48 a.m. ET

CHICAGO They acknowledged that they could have showed up months ago. Many were satisfied that they were finally doing the right thing. A few grumbled that they had little choice.

On a single day this past week, more than half a million people across the United States trickled into high school gymnasiums, pharmacies and buses converted into mobile clinics. Then they pushed up their sleeves and got their coronavirus vaccines.

These are the Americans who are being vaccinated at this moment in the pandemic: the reluctant, the anxious, the procrastinating.

In dozens of interviews on Thursday in eight states, at vaccination clinics, drugstores and pop-up mobile sites, Americans who had finally arrived for their shots offered a snapshot of a nation at a crossroads confronting a new surge of the virus but only slowly embracing the vaccines that could stop it.

The people being vaccinated now are not members of the eager crowds who rushed to early appointments. But they are not in the group firmly opposed to vaccinations, either.

Instead, they occupy a middle ground: For months, they have been unwilling to receive a coronavirus vaccine, until something or someone a persistent family member, a work requirement, a growing sense that the shot was safe convinced them otherwise.

How many people ultimately join this group, and how quickly, could determine the course of the coronavirus in the United States.

Some of the newly vaccinated said they made the decision abruptly, even casually, after months of inaction. One woman in Portland, Ore., was waiting for an incentive before she got her shot, and when she heard that a pop-up clinic at a farmers market was distributing $150 gift cards, she decided it was time. A 60-year-old man in Los Angeles spontaneously stopped in for a vaccine because he noticed that for once, there was no line at a clinic. A construction worker said his job schedule had made it difficult to get the shot.

Many people said they had arrived for a vaccine after intense pressure from family or friends.

"'You're going to die. Get the Covid vaccine,'" Grace Carper, 15, recently told her mother, Nikki White, of Urbandale, Iowa, as they debated when they would get their shots.

Ms. White, 38, woke up on Thursday and said she would do it.

"If you want to go get your vaccine, get up," Ms. White told her daughter, who was eager for the shot, and the pair went together to a Hy-Vee supermarket.

Others were moved by practical considerations: plans to attend a college that is requiring students to be vaccinated, a desire to spend time socializing with high school classmates, or a job where unvaccinated employees were told to wear masks. Their answers suggest that the mandates or greater restrictions on the unvaccinated that are increasingly a matter of debate by employers and government officials could make a significant difference.

Audrey Sliker, 18, of Southington, Conn., said she got a shot because New Yorks governor announced that it was required of all students attending State University of New York schools. She plans to be a freshman at SUNY Cobleskill this fall.

"I just don't like needles, in general," she said, leaving a white tent that housed a mobile vaccination site in Middlefield, Conn. "So it's more like, 'Do I need to get it?'".

Many people interviewed described their choices in personal, somewhat complicated terms.

Willie Pullen, 71, snacked on a bag of popcorn as he left a vaccination site in Chicago, one of the few people who showed up there that day. He was not opposed to the vaccines, exactly. Nearly everyone in his life was already vaccinated, he said, and though he is at greater risk because of his age, he said he believed he was healthy and strong enough to be able to think on it for a while.

What pushed him toward a high school on the West Side of Chicago, where free vaccines were being administered, was the illness of the aging mother of a friend. Mr. Pullen wanted to visit her. He felt it would be irresponsible to do so unvaccinated.

"I was holding out," Mr. Pullen said. "I had reservations about the safety of the vaccine and the government doing it. I just wanted to wait and see."

'I'm still not sure if it's safe'

The campaign to broadly vaccinate Americans against the coronavirus began in a roaring, highly energetic push early this year, when millions were inoculated each day and coveted vaccine appointments were celebrated with joyful selfies on social media. The effort peaked on April 13, when an average of 3.38 million doses were being administered in the United States. The Biden administration set a goal to have 70 percent of American adults at least partly vaccinated by July 4.

But since mid-April, vaccinations have steadily decreased, and in recent weeks, plateaued. Weeks after the July 4 benchmark has passed, the effort has now dwindled, distributing about 537,000 doses each day on average - about an 84 percent decrease from the peak.

About 68.7 percent of American adults have received at least one shot. Conservative commentators and politicians have questioned the safety of the three vaccines that the Food and Drug Administration has approved for emergency use, and in some parts of the country, opposition to inoculation is tied to politics. An analysis by The New York Times of vaccine records and voter records in every county in the United States found that both willingness to receive a coronavirus vaccine and actual vaccination rates were lower, on average, in counties where a majority of residents voted to re-elect Donald J. Trump.

Despite the lagging vaccination effort, there are signs that alarming headlines about a new surge in coronavirus cases and the highly infectious Delta variant could be pushing more Americans to consider vaccination. On Friday, Jen Psaki, the White House press secretary, said there had been "encouraging data" showing that the five states with the highest case rates Arkansas, Florida, Louisiana, Missouri and Nevada were also seeing higher vaccination numbers.

In Florida, a clinic in Sarasota County was quiet, a brightly lit waiting area full of mostly empty chairs. Several people wandered in, often no more than one or two in an hour. Lately, they are vaccinating fewer than 30 people there a day.

Elysia Emanuele, 42, a paralegal, came for a shot. One factor in her decision had been the rising case numbers in the state, which she had been watching with worry.

"If everything had gone smoothly, if we had shut down immediately and did what we needed to do and it was seemingly wiped out," she said, "I think I would have been less likely to get the vaccine."

THE BOLD SENTENCE BELOW HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE ARTICLE
Some people said they had heard snippets that worried them about getting shots on social media or on cable television - misinformation about vaccines has circulated widely - but they said they ultimately dismissed the rumors.


In the shade of a freeway underpass in South Los Angeles, volunteers and would-be vaccine patients tried to talk over the roar of passing cars.

Ronald Gilbert, 60, said he did not really believe in the vaccines and has never been a fan of needles, but with an uptick in cases he reasoned that it was "better to be safe than sorry."

"I feel better having this now, seriously I do," he said. "I'm going to be walking like a rooster, chest up, like 'You got the vaccine? I got the vaccine.'"

News of the Delta variant also changed the mind of Josue Lopez, 33, who had not planned on getting a vaccine after his whole family tested positive for the coronavirus in December.

"I thought I was immune, but with this variant, if it's more dangerous, maybe it's not enough," he said. "Even now, I'm still not sure if it's safe."

'We have to fight for every one of them'

At a vaccination site at Malcolm X College in Chicago, Sabina Richter, one of the workers there, said it used to be easy to find people to get shots. More recently, they had to offer incentives: passes to an amusement park in the north suburbs and Lollapalooza.

"Some people come in and theyre still hesitant," she said. "We have to fight for every one of them."

Cherie Lockhart, an employee at a care facility in Milwaukee for older and disabled people, said she was worried about the vaccines because she did not trust a medical system that she felt had always treated Black people differently.

She was not anti-vaccine, she said, just stalling until something could help her be sure. Her mother ultimately convinced her.

"My mom has never steered me wrong," Ms. Lockhart, 35, said. "She said, 'I feel this is right in my heart of hearts.' So I prayed about it. And, ultimately, I went with my guiding light."

Many of the people who newly sought shots said they had wanted to see how the vaccines affected Americans who rushed to get them early.

"I do know people who have gotten it and they haven't gotten sick, so that's why," said Lisa Thomas, 45, a home health care worker from Portland, Ore. "I haven't heard of any cases of anyone hurting from it, and there's a lot to benefit from it."

For Cindy Adams, who works for a Des Moines insurance company, it was her job's requirement to wear a mask as an unvaccinated person that pushed her into the Polk County Health Department drive-up clinic for her first dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.

Ms. Adams, 52, said she had been concerned about possible long-term effects of the vaccines. But now her husband, children and most of her extended family have been vaccinated, as have most of her co-workers.

"I just honestly got sick of wearing the mask," Ms. Adams said. "We had an event yesterday, and I had to wear it for five hours because I was around a lot of people. And I was sick of it."
"Everyone else is healthy and hasn't had any side effects, gravely, yet, so I decided I might as well join the crowd."

Julie Bosman reported from Chicago. Contributing reporting were Matt Craig from Los Angeles, Elizabeth Djinis from Sarasota, Fla., Timmy Facciola from Middlefield, Conn.,Ann Hinga Klein from Des Moines, Emily Shetler from Portland, Ore., and Dan Simmonsfrom Milwaukee.

Txdg00 901 posts, incept 2020-08-10
2021-07-24 19:02:36

@Susanlauren's last post about children made me wonder: how can they use the same dose for kids who are half the size (or less) of the average adult? Add it to the list of insanity.
Quantum 1k posts, incept 2021-05-18
2021-07-24 19:07:25

@Ceiii2000: I'm still trying to figure VAERS out. The CDC site says about 6000, but others have more like 9,000-11,000. Del Bigtree said the difference is that the higher number includes foreign cases?

I think someone on here noted that CDC briefly had a page up this week saying 12,000, but then they said it was an error and changed it back to 6000.


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Our God, will you not judge them? For we have no power to face this great multitude that is attacking us. We do not know what to do, but our eyes are on you. --2 Chron. 20:12
Tsherry 15k posts, incept 2008-12-09
2021-07-24 20:47:53

I'm recovering from an RSV virus; took the coof test, nada. Several other family members picked it up as well, from a 4 year old. It sucks.

Watched the movie 'Greenland' this morning, since I was up at 5 am coughing up a bunch o'phlegm.

I was rooting for the comet the whole time.

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IQ plus a promethean mindset matters.-Eleua

1 Thessalonians 4:11 Make it your ambition to lead a quiet life, to mind your own business and to work with your hands, just as we told you, so that
Pseudofed 23 posts, incept 2021-07-22
2021-07-24 20:48:02

I don't understand what is prompting vaccinated people to get tested. Unvaccinated people get tested because they are required and because they are interested in learning whether they might have an infection. Not only has there been an effort to avoid soliciting testing from vaccinated people, they have no natural reason to go in for a test themselves.

Unless they are very symptomatic. The natural absence of a reason to get tested is true in Britain too, though the systematic effort to avoid soliciting tests from them, and lowering the cycle count thresholds, might be a uniquely American fabrication.

So where are all these positive tests coming from? Why on earth are people getting tested?
Ceiii2000 561 posts, incept 2021-05-17
2021-07-24 20:48:09

@Quantum

You might read the OpenVAERs FAQ. They say the data is unedited, 10% not USA, and show how they do the search.
Ceiii2000 561 posts, incept 2021-05-17
2021-07-24 20:48:16

By the way some history editing for you to read. Go to the history portion. I know it is Wikipedia and most of their facts are garbage, just note the editing from June 14th to June 16th.

I am officially the stupid old man that believes in conspiracy theories now. The only person in my family that sides with me is my step mom. Oh well, lets see how long that lasts.

https://web.archive.org/web/202106141403....

https://web.archive.org/web/202106161618....
Purplefang 717 posts, incept 2010-03-28
2021-07-24 20:48:19

@Mannfm11 - Dr Zelenko was really getting fired up. I am glad he is in good health. He's a fighter. They should not have interrupted him. He is now just calling the vaccines poison death shots.
Spanky 242 posts, incept 2011-03-22
2021-07-24 20:48:48

RFK Jr. Is a bit of a nutter, but he claims that Fauci was driving the dual-use gain of function research spreading around billions in DoD money every year and had everyone in his pocket. The question is whether the law gets close to Fauci and the Intelligence agencies step in under "secret national interests" to protect him. That would be hard to do with 1M vax deaths though... Of course you would think 500k deaths from a gain of function virus might also cut through the later of protection. Thoughts @Karl?
Ceiii2000 561 posts, incept 2021-05-17
2021-07-24 22:53:39

Sorry for all the posts in a row TG but I just had a thought. How are all the people with their newly modified immune system, the Vexxed, going to react to the flue shot?

It is a dead virus, but still prompts an immune reaction. Maybe the push is to get the death jab in people is so its follow up can be added to the flue shot? Or maybe the flu shot itself will be the follow up.
Kareninca 659 posts, incept 2011-08-23
2021-07-24 22:54:01

This was just posted at Naked Capitalism by a long-time poster who is an MD (I've abbreviated it):

IM Doc
July 24, 2021 at 8:18 am
About the French Guyana paper from the CDC

I have repeatedly stated that I am seeing much much more vaccinated positives than one would ever have expected. As I have stated, they seem to be much sicker (though not critically so) and they tend to happen in clusters. For the past two months, this has stuck out from the dominant media narrative. I have never had to fight the cognitive dissonance between the media and my own eyeballs in my life.

I belong to a large non-public alumni group of my residency program that has literally thousands of IM docs all over America. The first thing a scientist does is to confirm that your observations are general or something you are just seeing. It was quickly obvious from that group that I was far from alone despite the minimal breakthrough cases media narrative.

So, then you do everything you can to hypothesize reasons why you are seeing what you are. I have been a physician for 30 years and that experience plays a huge role as well. Having this gigantic number of breakthrough cases just simply does not happen. I continue to see more than half the cases in vaccinated patients and so do many others. UNHEARD OF IN VACCINES BEFORE NOW.

Part of hypothesizing why is looking to the literature for evidence. Seldom is this found in RCT at this stage. Case reports and series like this paper are critical. They are seeing the same breakthrough ratio. And they have done a lot more viral research than you can. This is a gold mine for my own questions.

Is there anything in the paper that could possibly explain what I am seeing. Lots of times, it is not in the headline part but in all the test results and discussion. And yes, there is a very important finding deep in the results.

Why would clustering and sicker patients be so much more common in the breakthrough patients there must be a reason for that?

If you look at the brief discussion of cT or cycle threshold you will see that the vaccinated patients have a SIGNIFICANTLY lower cT than the unvaccinated. That is the way the PCR test works. It basically means the vaccinated have a much higher amount of viral active particles than the unvaccinated. That would account for the breakthroughs I and my colleagues are seeing being a bit more ill. And it would explain the clustering. THe vaccinated breakthroughs have much higher viral load so they are much more contagious and the higher viral load makes them more symptomatic.

So we now have a suggestion and strong evidence that the vaccinated population may be spreading much more virus than the unvaccinated. I would say that is a critical public health issue and must be further researched immediately.

This Certainly needs much more work. THis is not confirmatory of any conclusions. But it is consistent with observation on the ground unlike most of what the media has been spewing to the American people. But this is how science works. This paper is about the gamma variant but a conference yesterday with experts discussed that similar findings were being found in delta and lambda. The suggestion in this paper is now on the front of my mind. I am even now thinking of ways to confirm or falsify these conclusions going forward. This is science.

Another issue. The writers make the point that the breakthrough rate is extremely divergent from the expected rate. The difference is this paper documents what is happening in REAL LIFE. So much of what we are hearing on our media about vaccine efficacy is research being done in vitro. It is presented as gospel truth. I just want to scream.

This is the paper he or she is referring to: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/404.html?aspxe....

If he or she is reading this right, I wonder how long this can be kept from public attention.




Jc3 631 posts, incept 2020-03-02
2021-07-24 22:57:17

@Deep6, @Nickdanger
Yes indeed. "Mr. Hoover" appears to have some background in the data manipulation and graphics used on displays including that which Johnny Hopkins covid dashboard is based. Here's one of many where he brought up the flu number problem and the video has not been pulled yet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A0aPLiC....

Reason: typo/spelling
Susanlauren 1k posts, incept 2021-05-01
2021-07-24 22:57:27

@Spanky. Is Fraudchi old enough to have a heart attack or stroke or die in his sleep from natural (or unnatural) causes?

If he becomes a threat or liability to an alphabet agency, it would come as no surprise if his health took a sudden turn for the worst. Very tragic you know.

I am sure there would be a lovely funeral and memorial service to honor all that he has done in the furtherance of public health during his long career and during this unprecedented viral pandemic.

Go ahead, tell me that can't happen.
Thelazer 1k posts, incept 2009-05-11
2021-07-25 07:45:50

Susanlauren.. If he is friends with Hillary, anything is possible!
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