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Tickerguy
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That's correct @Billhrny - further, the EEOC did NOT say any such thing. What they said is that someone who presents a particularized risk to the public or other employees can be excluded without violating the ADA.

Thus you can exclude someone who is actively ill, but not someone susceptible, because the latter is not particularized risk. Never mind that having the stab does NOT prove you can't get the virus, and they know that too.

They will get sued and lose, and they know it.

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Any bets on how long it takes for the S1 protein hazard to hit the news based upon the American Pravda levels of censorship in the US now?

And I'll say once again that it is not conceivable for me to believe that given the degree to which clotting is the most important pathology related to COVID-19 that no one in the pursuit to find why that was so never thought to put the spike protein in a test tube of whole blood, especially the vaccine producers who were designing substances to cause the creation of that in the whole blood found in the human blood stream.

My guess is that they knew about this, but since the spike protein was IDed as the quickest and most obvious path to something that would arouse the immune system, they took that route because if you have a bad reaction to the S1 protein alone when it is a transient in your system, you'd have a far worse reaction when the actual virus was not only exploding cells, but producing large and continuous doses of S1 protein in the process of reproducing itself.

So, it was a lesser of two evils and they lied.

BTW, note how they only admit to the extremely rare clotting disorders because they can't be explained away like someone dropping dead from a stroke or heart attack a week or two after being vaccinated.
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I have 3 responses for people asking me if I'm getting jabbed

1) None of your damn business
2) No
3) No, my doctors have advised against it

My employer is leaving it up to us and so far most of us have no plans of becoming human guinea pigs.
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@Winston2020 -
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And I'll say once again that it is not conceivable for me to believe that given the degree to which clotting is the most important pathology related to COVID-19 that no one in the pursuit to find why that was so never thought to put the spike protein in a test tube of whole blood, especially the vaccine producers who were designing substances to cause the creation of that in the whole blood found in the human blood stream.

They did. The first paper on this was out in September. Maybe a bit slow on the uptake, but do remember that it took a while to characterize exactly what sort of odd **** was going on with this virus, and then someone had to go get the money to study that, and start breaking it down.

Meanwhile we just took China's word for it that the spike protein was "harmless" standing alone and thus a good vaccine candidate, since it couldn't replicate.

As it turns out while it can't replicate it doesn't matter since it appears it's basically the entire reason that when a Covid-19 infection goes systemic on you the result is a butt****ing instead of a mild flu.

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Good take VAERS source GAB.com L (@somebitchiknow)

https://www.somebitchtoldme.com/post/abc....
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Billhrny wrote..
Already we have pro-vax co-workers saying things like "When we return to work, how will we be protected from "THOSE" people....you know the people who aren't vaccinated?"
Definitive proof that a huge swath of the population is intellectually defective. Kindly and politely ask them if they believe the "vaccine" is effective. If they say yes, point out to them that's how they're "protected."

You're dealing with people who are genuinely stumped by a connect-the-dots puzzle that only has 2 dots on the page.
Billhrny wrote..
I pray I leave on my terms not theirs. But when I do leave...I decided to burn this bridge big time.
Whatever you do, don't quit. Make them fire you. In the meantime accumulate a paper trail of every workplace mention/conversation/email/memo etc. related covid, masks, vaccines, etc.



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I sent the VAERS site link to a pro-vaccination friend who is capable of understanding it. He reads technical journals as part of his profession. He has been saying for months that everything he has read has said that no-one has died from taking the vaccine. He did look at the site.

His objection was that it allows self-reporting. I pointed out that this is the site that has been used for years and years for this purpose, and that only now are people starting to try to cast doubt on its data as a whole. But I conceded the point, and said "fine, so in that case, what is the data source for the claim that there have been no deaths?" Who is coming up with that data?

No answer yet. If VAERS is no good, where do individual doctors get to report deaths? Where is that info on a public site that we can access? Where do individuals get to report dire symptoms; what "system" do those incidents get recorded into?

The very claim that no-one has died from the vaccine is simply implausible. With so many vaccinations, it is most certainly not going to be zero. In which case, why is the "no-one at all!!!" has died assertion being promoted? That claim is simply going to cause more doubt, rather than less.
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I often wonder what the vax narrative would be if Trump was still in office. Would the press be touting the vax as they are now, or would they be putting the faces of every vax death on milk bottles, etc, lamenting how Trump threw caution to the wind, experimenting on humans for financial gain, etc?
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Yes @Kareninca people self-report their own death all the time smiley

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North Carolina is getting ready to implement corporate "Vaccine passports" and they are doing it behind closed doors. It should be coming any day now. A bill was written to forbid such requirements in the state and offer protection, but it is looking like Republicans are not going to support it.


Unlike Mich..,, Gov Cooper is at High RISK of getting Lead poisoning.. outside the City(s) of & Liberal compounds of Raleigh/Duke/Chaple Hill etc research triangle.. ..

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So why push investigational mRNA and DNA gene therapies on folks who already caught the virus? They are already quite effectively vaccinated, naturally.

SARS-CoV-2 antibody-positivity protects against reinfection for at least seven months with 95% efficacy

Efficacy of natural infection against reinfection was estimated at 95.2% (95% CI: 94.1-96.0%). Reinfections were less severe than primary infections.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33937733....
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@Craiglong..

You must of missed a post I made before (a couple days ago)..



Story follows.

Wilmington company will require its 500 employees to get COVID-19 vaccine

https://www.wwaytv3.com/2021/04/29/wilmi....

One of the areas top employers says they will require their staff to get vaccinated for COVID-19.

CastleBranch, a background screening company, recently announced a vaccine requirement for its 500 team members.

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People ANNOUNCE all sorts of ****.

Oracle said after the girls sport protection bill passed here it might not build its new.campus in Nastyville.

Did they ACTUALLY SUSPEND activity on the project? Nope.

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"They did. The first paper on this was out in September. Maybe a bit slow on the uptake, but do remember that it took a while to characterize exactly what sort of odd **** was going on with this virus, and then someone had to go get the money to study that, and start breaking it down."

I may have found some from even earlier.

Preprint:

17 May 2020
Distinct conformational states of SARS-CoV-2 spike protein

Yongfei Cai, Jun Zhang, Tianshu Xiao, Hanqin Peng, Sarah M Sterling, Richard M Walsh, Shaun Rawson, Sophia Rits-Volloch, Bing Chen [affiliations are all in the USA]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32511405....

Published version. "***" emphasis is mine:

Published in Science: 25 Sep 2020
Distinct conformational states of SARS-CoV-2 spike protein

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32694201....

Here, we report two cryo-electron microscopy structures ***derived from a preparation of the full-length S protein***

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A paper originating exclusively from the official journal of the Chinese Pharmacological Society and Shanghai Institute of Materia Medica, Chinese Academy of Sciences:

Published in Nature: 03 August 2020
Structural and functional properties of SARS-CoV-2 spike protein: potential antivirus drug development for COVID-19

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41401-0....

In this review, we highlight recent research advance in the structure, function and development of antivirus drugs targeting the S protein.
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Further, the EEOC did NOT say any such thing. What they said is that someone who presents a particularized risk to the public or other employees can be excluded without violating the ADA.

Thus you can exclude someone who is actively ill, but not someone susceptible, because the latter is not particularized risk. Never mind that having the stab does NOT prove you can't get the virus, and they know that too.


This is good to know as I was not aware of this before. You certainly would not learn this from any MSM story about this. I wonder if this can be used if the airlines try to keep unvaccinated people off the planes. I actually don't think they will do this. But knowledge to fight back with is always a good thing.

The EU is preparing to go full-on for the vaccine passport thing. Of course, the Europeans have always been of fascist/collectivist bent compared to Americans. Iny how, I don't have to go to Europe anytime in the foreseeable future. None of the Asian countries appear to be going this route (a place I AM more likely to visit than Europe).

With regards to how people treat medicine, I noticed the same thing. People who are technically competent in engineering and other fields seem to switch off their brains when it comes to medical stuff. This makes me think that my friend is correct in saying that most people treat medicine like a religion, with the health "experts" and MD's being priests. He calls it the medical state religion. Of course this is totally irrational. But this seems to be the way it is for most people.

I think the reason why I've never been attracted to the medical religion is because I have been interested in anti-aging life extension since I was in college (mid 80's) and have been involved in the cryonics milieu. I view medicine as bio-engineering. Molecular biology and bio-engineering are to my body the same way that aerodynamics, metallurgy, and the like are for aircraft design and solid-state physics and thin-film materials science is for semiconductor chip fabrication. Needless to say, most people do not share my world-view on these matters.
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Once you start digging into the various areas of "medical practice" you recognize two things quite quickly:

1. You're the one being practiced on.

2. Over the last 30+ years medicine has gone from an art which one practices, and which is accepted as imperfect and individualized, to a rote commercial model where the practitioners are immune from laws everyone else must follow, and therefore whatever they chose to do that makes the MOST MONEY, irrespective of all other considerations, is done.

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I find it amazing that the people who did the three S1 protein pathology discovery studies to determine why COVID-19 caused its most damaging and deadly effect, clotting, didn't have a light bulb come on in their heads and immediately connect that with the vaccines and note it.

On the other hand, they may actually want funding for future studies and the ability to drive home without having a fatal "accident" and avoiding being found after their "suicide" with TWO holes in their heads.
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https://vaers.hhs.gov/ The online form requires a name and contact information. Somebody at CDC can audit and approve each entry. PDF version too.

I believe the VAERS system is being audited by CDC and adjusted. Looks pretty valid to me. You have to present an ID to die. :)

Edited: session expired, added this "click your way through the process and read the under penalty of prison and fines."

Reason: Links don't work, so added the top level URL links
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Just get on the rail car.
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@Flaps10 - No.

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Oh, forgot the /s
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I so hope you are right Karl. I pray the backlash is epic. The sheep are awakening and cognitive dissonance has its limits. At this point I am questioning everything. I have a routine follow up primary care appointment at the end of May. If my doctor tries to push the death jab, it will be my last appointment. Karma is waiting for these (expletive). What will they do when it is their kid, spouse, parent, loved one? I am not an anti-vaxxer and I am an anti-suicide and anti-stupid choices type of person. I am literally astounded by the "smart people" who are signing on to this lunacy. I hope all of this is a feeding frenzy for the lawyers. By the way, I figured out how to register. What was the impediment was putting a space between my screen name. It had to be susanlauren all one word and could not be susan lauren as two separate words. Who knew? I love this little community and this is my second post. You have clarity and insight that few are blessed to have in these days. Susan
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Trust unaudited mail in ballots but not self reporting with contact information on a central website.

The gaslighting is endless.
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@winston2020 wrote..
My guess is that they knew about this, but since the spike protein was IDed as the quickest and most obvious path to something that would arouse the immune system, they took that route because if you have a bad reaction to the S1 protein alone when it is a transient in your system, you'd have a far worse reaction when the actual virus was not only exploding cells, but producing large and continuous doses of S1 protein in the process of reproducing itself.

I've seen this theory bandied about and of course, it assumes that these people honestly wanted to solve a problem but couldn't figure out how to do it except through unethical means.

Reminds me of this exchange in Star Trek III: Search for Spock...

Saavik: It's time for total truth between us. This planet is not what you intended or hoped for, is it?
David Marcus: Not exactly.
Saavik: Why?
David Marcus : I used protomatter in the Genesis matrix.
Saavik: Protomatter. An unstable substance which every ethical scientist in the galaxy has denounced as dangerously unpredictable.
David Marcus: It was the only way to solve certain problems.
Saavik: So, like your father, you changed the rules.
David Marcus: If I hadn't, it might have been years or never.
Saavik: How many have paid the price for your impatience? How many have died? How much damage have you done? And what is yet to come?

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Just get on the rail car.


1/60th of a degree


**** boxcars.

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