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2021-05-03 07:00 by Karl Denninger
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and so is all credibility for both Biden and Trump administrations when it comes to Covid and public health in general.  Said credibility will not be regained for years, perhaps decades, until and unless people are held to account -- which is very unlikely.

It will not be long before the TSA will have no choice but to lift their "mask mandate" as well, as will all other federal and state agencies.

Those who were foolish enough to listen to them despite the few, such as myself, warning that the science was actually on the other side for all these mandates and the shots will be stuck with the consequences.

There might be a few fathers left in this country.  Maybe.  If so it is my sincere hope that they hold people to personal account who inflicted these harms on their sons and daughters, of which there will be tens if not hundreds of thousands reasonably tied to these so-called "interventions", including the shots, in the current and coming years.

The ghouls involved did not give a crap about the law from the start.  The EUAs were flatly illegal because we knew by summer of 2020 that there were decades-old proved safe and believed effective treatments.  We didn't use them, on purpose, for the explicit reason that doing so would prevent these EUAs from being issued.  By deliberately lying the FDA, CDC and dozens of other organizations and individuals along with the corporate physician and hospital networks directly caused the death of hundreds of thousands of Americans who should not have died, and caused deliberate harm to hundreds of thousands more who are now left with what may well be a lifelong debilitating impact as a result of the scream-fest for "everyone" to go get these unproved and now-known-dangerous injections.  Nobody knows how bad, or for how long, those future disabilities and risk of death will be or for how long they will continue but that there is severe impact is now known; we are now down to trying to figure out how horrid.

The CDC still claims the spike protein in the shots is "harmless" despite three scientific papers dating to December stating otherwise, one of which is peer reviewed and another from Salk, with the first known published evidence of a problem dating back to September of 2020.  All were deliberately ignored and still are being ignored.

COVID-19 mRNA vaccines give instructions for our cells to make a harmless piece of what is called the “spike protein.” The spike protein is found on the surface of the virus that causes COVID-19.

The science says it's not harmless; it is in fact pathogenic.  The CDC is lying and as a result people are dying.

If you think this can remain "under wraps" and not get into the public consciousness you're wrong.  While the pharma firms may have legal immunity no private entity or public other entity does and the ambulance chasers will be out in droves to make the next $10 or $50 billion windfall asset-stripping colleges and their endowments, sports teams, concert venues and other commercial and government entities of every bit of flesh they can pick off.  Unfortunately the injured will get little or nothing after the lawyers get done, as has always been the case.

The destruction of these entities is both just and will happen, but it's nowhere near the end game or best of outcomes.  The best of outcomes, which we will also obtain, will be the complete destruction of any sort of trust, belief or other willingness to listen to so-called "public health" authorities for years or even decades into the future.

This is not a bad thing; they've been full of crap for decades, poisoning people slowly by advocating the consumption of a carbohydrate-rich diet, essentially cramming liquid milk into the gullets of children, many of whom are lactose intolerant to some degree and for which there is no evidence of benefit, calling "ketchup", which is mostly sugar, a "vegetable" and other similar outrages.  McDonalds and the rest of the fast food industry followed said "guidance" and stopped using beef tallow from their hamburgers to fry the potatoes; that switch alone has killed hundreds of thousands over the last few decades, as vegetable oils of this sort should never be consumed in any meaningful quantity.  They do not occur in nature in anything similar to what we consume today and every one of them has a horrid inflammatory profile.

We have an assistant secretary of "health" for the Biden Administration who in fact could not perform the simple task of looking downward toward the crotch to figure out what sex he/she/it was, and when disagreement with physical reality occurred reality was denied.  Think about that in the context of having previously sired children, which it appears Levine did, and then telling them later on that you don't believe you're their father as you deny being a man!  What sort of wildly crazy child abuse is that?  (I am assuming these are biological children, which is not clear -- but is a reasonable presumption given its former wife is indeed a woman.)  Do you think I'll listen to a single thing that comes out of Levine's mouth?  Likewise we have all manner of fat jackasses telling everyone else they must accommodate their personal lifestyle choice and the damage it has caused.  Certainly you have the right to eat yourself into a blob but you have no right to demand I pay for it either in money nor in restrictions on my lifestyle, such as lockdowns, masks and similar when you are at 1,000x the risk of being killed by a virus as someone who isn't wildly obese.  Indeed virtually all of the true excess risk from Covid is due to personal lifestyle choices.  Not all, to be sure, but then again while people do get hit by lightning in everyday life your decision to play golf in the middle of a thunderstorm does not make me responsible for the wildly-elevated risk of you becoming the Preacher in Caddyshack!

Every one of the ghouls who pulled this crap should spend the rest of their life in general population with the other inmates having full knowledge that they screwed not only old people but children as well.  Few to none will, which means that if there is to be justice it will have to come at the hands of the one or two remaining actual men in our society who lose a loved one, especially a teen-aged daughter who was coerced into stabbing an improperly-tested cocktail into their arm like a lab rat.  Maybe that will happen and maybe it won't; the story of the ages, of course, is that what should happen often doesn't.

But in terms of all the bullcrap being bandied about and the threats made that come down to "take the tard shot or else" forget it.  Those threats have no teeth and the people issuing them know it.  They know damn well that they are not immune from suit and the first young person who is coerced and dies creates a permanent liability for them and their entire family that can never be removed -- and which extends far beyond the boundaries of any courtroom.

If you get threatened then the bottom line is that you have a decision to make.  You can knuckle under or refuse.  If you refuse though do not quit or otherwise walk off in a huff -- instead make them fire you, expel you from college, or whatever.  Find a good lawyer.  Force these jackasses to answer for what we already know: In 2021 thus far 99% of all vaccine-associated deaths were from the Covid shots, while just one percent were accounted for by the more than one hundred other safe and effective vaccines in common use.  Stick this pie chart up in court and see how well the "defense" deals with it; since it's official government data they'll have all sorts of fun trying to refute it and fail.  Remember that in a civil suit you need only "more probable than not" to win, not "beyond reasonable doubt."  If your healthy young son or daughter expires after taking said shot as a result of being threatened with expulsion from or non-admission to college, or loss of their job, do you think a jury will side with you or with the smug corporate or university asshole who caused them to take said shot and die?  What if said young person is still alive but horribly disabled and can testify themselves as to the onset of their debilitation and proximity to the jab?


Yes, today the jury might not find your argument compelling as many of them are likely living in fear too but how about six months from now by the time you actually select said jury pool?  Ha! By then the illusion will have passed; too many people will either have had a family member or friend who had their life ruined or were killed outright by these things or know someone who did and the tide will have gone out, showing all of these ghouls to have been swimming naked.  Those who walk around with diapers on their face and who have their jab pictures on social media will be spending their days furiously trying to erase the evidence of their complicity lest they get tagged as someone who supported this mass-slaughter of innocents, never mind the Internet Archive which will make sure said proof never goes away.  Life insurers will probably finish off anyone's hope of having coverage at a reasonable price if they took the shot -- just desserts -- when the data comes in and makes the 20 year old who took said shot the same life insurance risk as a fat, diabetic 60 year old.  When that $20/month premium is $250 come talk to me about how "unfair" it is when you did it to yourself.  If and when this winds up being proved to be a blood supply risk and you need a pint maybe we'll finally have some of that $400 the hospital charges you go back into the pockets of people like myself who won't give it away -- but we might sell it for the right price, seeing as we're "clean" in that regard and half the nation is not.

All-in folks I'll go back to what I said in my 2021 prediction article, albeit it appears the mechanism is different.  Such is the business of prognostication; I said it wouldn't matter as we got into 2021, and it won't.  There is no way that the threats to "exclude" people who refuse the Covid shots will be realized; the data is damning already, and the trends are even worse.  From everything I can see the queues for shots are empty, they're closing "vaccine" centers for lack of demand and Biden is freaking out about the Military refusing, threatening to make it mandatory.  What could possibly go wrong with that given who has access to what and, given the record of stabbing servicemen with untested crap that severely injures them (which we have done in the past) do you really think people will accept that rather than say "fuck you!" and force the issue?  Go ahead Xiden, do something really stupid.

Even the NY Post is asking the question:

Progressive politicians across the country assumed unique powers in the last year, took away personal freedoms, and destroyed livelihoods without saving lives, but they’ve still yet to admit their historic failures or be held accountable for committing them.

The public should ask why progressives should attempt to bring major change to the nation, let alone govern any state government, when they have failed families so starkly across the country.

Perhaps the public will go even further and ask why so-called progressives and their families should not lose their right to livelihood and even their freedom after deliberately ruining the lives of so many with exactly zero benefit to balance said harms.

We're now in the first week of May.  Those states that do not stop the stupidity well in front of the 4th of July, one of the busiest holidays, will simply send all the people in America to places like right here where they will spend money -- and where you need neither a mask or a jab.

From the dinner tables to the pool halls, bars and beaches of America three words are being belted out louder and louder with each passing day: Fuck you Karen.

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Handyone55 434 posts, incept 2010-07-06
2021-05-03 08:35:52

Thank you Mr. Denninger! You just gave me an additional source of income when my employer fires me. What am I offered for a pint of A positive blood with no harmful additives?

Cash only, I do not take checks
Ocdawg 571 posts, incept 2019-03-14
2021-05-03 08:43:48

WELL ... DONE... SIR!!!

One point you made KD I never considered... the blood shortage will be catastrophic no matter the world's state if the jabbing doesn't immediately end. One can't fathom the carnage....
As always, incredible article and THANK YOU!!!

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."- George Carlin
GO DAWGS!!! Quietly reloading.....
Spaceace 197 posts, incept 2019-05-09
2021-05-03 08:46:55

@Handyone - I'm sure there will be cries of price gouging by some hack politician. Even so, I see the same opportunity you do.
Winesorbet 1k posts, incept 2010-08-23
2021-05-03 09:07:43

Tremendous posts this weekend and today. The Saulk article got attention on Bret Weinstein's podcast. I am hoping the veil is beginning to lift on a larger scale. It is going to take freight train to bust through the enormous amount of ignorance out there.

@Karl, while the pie chart seems damming, playing devil's advocate, I would ask to see the rate of death rather than just raw numbers. Not sure if the denominator values are available. Raw numbers could be very misleading.
Tickerguy 202k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2021-05-03 09:08:59

Oh really @Winesorbet?

Well, you may think so, but last year roughly 170 million flu shot doses were distributed (don't know how many went into arms, but nobody makes something they don't intend to use that has a short shelf life, and this does.)

Yet from August of 2020 to today that 170 million jabs, of which most were used and primarily went into the arms of older, morbid people, there were something like 26 associated deaths.

"Perhaps you can keep things together and advance playing DIE games.
Or perhaps the truth is that white men w/IQs >= 115 or so built all of it and without us it will collapse."
Thelazer 1k posts, incept 2009-05-11
2021-05-03 09:14:03

For those here, go back and read thru that linked 2021 predictions ticker.
It's spot fucking on.
Aquapura 4k posts, incept 2012-04-19
2021-05-03 09:25:27

Even if the mainstream media did report on the VAERS data I'm sure most of the sheep out there would excuse it against the Covid deaths #. And right now the news is hyping the shit out of the Coof in India. Keep that propaganda machine working until every last person is jabbed.

While it sounds terrible I want to see a non-trivial amount of young healthy people show adverse reactions to the jab. Enough that the so-called mainstream media cannot ignore. I think that's the only thing at this point that will stop the vaccine passport insanity. Just over three-thousand deaths sucks but so far as I know we have not lost a big group of under 30-year-olds. With the jabbing happening to teens now I think a high-school classroom of kids falling over dead would open some eyes.
Nadavegan 976 posts, incept 2017-05-03
2021-05-03 09:26:03

North Carolina is getting ready to implement corporate "Vaccine passports" and they are doing it behind closed doors. It should be coming any day now. A bill was written to forbid such requirements in the state and offer protection, but it is looking like Republicans are not going to support it.

While I am tremendously disappointed that the R's are yet again doing fuck-all, a small part of me is OK with this, since it will hang the passports squarely around the neck of our shitheel governor. The rollout of this is going to be chaotic and wildly unpopular, and is going to be a death sentence for any business that embraces it. It is going to be awesomely bad. A few months back, I moved my family extremely rural, and out here no one gives a shit about vaccines or mandates. The cities, particularly Raleigh and Charlotte, will comply, but it will only raise my property value as I got out before they did, and lots of non-conformers will be moving my way very soon.

I think you are right, Karl. People are seeing how awful this shot working and we are approaching an inflection point. My payroll admin missed three whole days of work after her second shot. Two healthy young ex-soldiers in my office each missed a day of work with severe nausea. One of our VPs couldn't move his left arm for an entire day. People notice. People talk. These effects are not normal. Just wait until the grocery store says we won't sell you food. Wait until people are forced out of work. Our business has encountered the severe labor shortage that is happening right now. We will be happy to snap up the non-conformers who get pressured out from elsewhere.

On top of all of that, top earners and performers like my wife and I, who have the ability to remake our lives on a dime, are closely watching how this plays out. Would I ever before have considered Florida or Nebraska before? Nope, not until they started offering protections from this tyranny. Now, however, lots of people like us are taking a hard look at where we will be investing our time and talent.

This will not break in the direction the inept powers that be think that it will break.
Winesorbet 1k posts, incept 2010-08-23
2021-05-03 09:28:24

@Karl, yup agreed. I'm just trying to make this bullet proof. If someone showed me that pie chart the first thing I would ask for is the rates of death.

@Thelazer, pretty spot on. Too bad the senate prediction was wrong. AOC seems to love what Xiden is doing.
Clyde 180 posts, incept 2009-08-19
2021-05-03 09:31:17

Just read your article as I always do in the am with a cup of my favorite coffee.
Then I went to CFP citizen free press (kane) which I do 2nd, and noticed one of your articles on his site, maybe 10 or 15 down which is a good thing.
"science catches up -- and burns you all"

kudos Karl, you are being read.
This is the 2nd time I've seen you on his site.

It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.

Samuel Adams
Tickerguy 202k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2021-05-03 09:30:58

@Winesorbet - The others do not have widely-published numbers, but they can be backed into pretty easily. Most of the vaccines are used during childhood, many have multiple shots in the series, and there are roughly 4 million births a year in the US. Therefore most of them are in the 8-10m/year delivered range.

The wild outlier is the flu shot which they push every year and virtually EVERY senior gets it because it's "free" via Medicare and every single nursing home tries to coerce it (they can't compel it, but they sure play the doom porn; you can opt out but few do.) That's the most-morbid population there is and yet the flu shot is almost-never associated with anyone dying.

"Perhaps you can keep things together and advance playing DIE games.
Or perhaps the truth is that white men w/IQs >= 115 or so built all of it and without us it will collapse."
Smooth 165 posts, incept 2020-03-26
2021-05-03 10:51:20

I just discovered that the mRNA drugs do not actually use mRNA, but rather mRNA-like molecules which are different in their breakdown and transcription properties than mRNA. In preliminary research, these mRNA-like substances were able to cause mouse cells to produce proteins for weeks, far longer than actual mRNA.

I could see that in some people, these drugs could stay in the body, resist "timely" breakdown (due to individual physiological differences), and possibly overwhelm the individual with out-of-control spike protein production. This is just a theory, of course. Maybe that is part of the puzzle WRT the adverse events.

Eventually, if the science is not censored, we will have information on the differences among individuals regarding the amounts and length of time that spike proteins are produced after receiving these drugs.
Jethrodull 198 posts, incept 2008-02-25
2021-05-03 10:51:37

when I get fired for not taking the jab, I will hire KD as an expert witness at my trial....
Jesjohn94 1k posts, incept 2019-05-07
2021-05-03 11:14:38

I will be surprised if the authorities around the world don't succeed in covering up the dangers of the jab. The west is entirely built on the elites making money from scams. The undemocratic countries like China and Russia are at least honest enough to not give a shit about individuals.
Seektruth 1k posts, incept 2007-09-01
2021-05-03 11:14:51

Yep. I don't care what kind of BS they employ to 'coerce' me into taking their vexines, it isn't going to happen. Now if they try to somehow keep me from obtaining the things necessary to live, well, I'll do what I have to do.

Somehow I've kept my job through this without wearing a face diaper even once, even though it's a "requirement" to wear one on site. When/if these vexines get the normal approval, I expect they'll "require" that as well. If they fire me, so be it. I WILL be getting a lawyer if that day comes.

Truth is out of style.
Exelitepwrlftr 143 posts, incept 2019-12-16
2021-05-03 11:15:04

I am beginning to feel there are quite a few more of us not taking the vaccine than there are partaking. Here in NC we're sitting at roughly 32% of the population of 10MM fully vaccinated.

While there was serious uptake in the beginning, recent trends suggest they've already seen the majority of folks who desire one of these "vaccines". I only fear they're going to turn up the heat to get the fear card playing once again. I believe the rash of India stories is designed to be exactly that catalyst.

Smooth 165 posts, incept 2020-03-26
2021-05-03 11:15:06

This is the paper I was referencing:
Janiem 11 posts, incept 2020-04-04
2021-05-03 11:37:44

"your decision to play golf in the middle of a thunderstorm does not make me responsible for the wildly-elevated risk of you becoming the Preacher in Caddyshack!"

Hahahaha! Yes, awesome Ticker, as usual Karl.
You were right, I never get tired of seeing that sign.
So glad more attention is being brought to the blood supply issue.
It's one Ive been worried about for months. Thank you for writing about it.
Scottj175 635 posts, incept 2010-09-06
2021-05-03 11:37:51

and so is all credibility for both Biden and Trump administrations when it comes to Covid and public health in general. Said credibility will not be regained for years, perhaps decades, until and unless people are held to account -- which is very unlikely.

This opening line makes me think of an observation I've made elsewhere (and maybe here but I can't recall): I think we may be headed for a second dark ages.

With science being so corrupted by politics it's become untrustworthy. Especially if you look at all the woke critical [race/gender/whatever] theory that prevails today. When you have the concept openly discussed that objective truths like 2+2=4 are "racist oppression" we're well down the road to an era of myth like the original dark ages.
Nadavegan 976 posts, incept 2017-05-03
2021-05-03 11:38:08

@exelitepwrlftr, the fear won't work. Anyone who was going to get it, has already gotten it. The rest have no fear. We are headed straight to coercion. That won't work either.

I have been angrily correcting people who keep spouting the "Cooper said we can reopen on June 1st!" Only if we get to an arbitrary 2/3 threshold, which a. we never will and b. even if we did, they would still make up some bullshit reason to keep things restricted.
Riceday 1k posts, incept 2009-10-30
2021-05-03 11:38:15

As it relates to shedding, replication, etc. This keeps coming to mind.
Smooth 165 posts, incept 2020-03-26
2021-05-03 11:41:39
Quik49 16k posts, incept 2007-12-11
2021-05-03 11:41:48

Oh lookie... fda under scope

2 + 2 =5
Superdude 2k posts, incept 2009-06-16
2021-05-03 11:53:17

Of course the Inactivated Covid Vaccine (Coronvac Sinovac) is not getting an press lately. It is almost ready for FDA approval. Looks like it is just as leaky as the others, but might be safer? (I dunno its from China)
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