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Craiglong
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Incept: 2019-12-02

Hendersonville
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@Exelitepwrlftr Gov Cooper recently said he would remove the mask mandate when 66% of eligible persons had the vaccine. We got a ways to go. Here in Henderson County the commissioners voted to remove the mask mandate inside county buildings.

https://wlos.com/news/local/henderson-co....

@Nadavegan

Haven't heard about the plan for "vaccine Passports" here in NC. I'm not vaccinated.

Redjack
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Incept: 2018-01-29

Iowa
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Nadavegan

Winters in Nebraska are hard. I say this as a son of Nebraska.

Culture is odd. Hard to explain. Not bad, but there are oddities that are unique. Like "You don't like me, I don't like you, but if the flood comes we will help each other out till it goes down and then we can go back to hating each other".

Interesting point about the blood. I have been giving plasma, and NONE of the nurses have the shot. Since I still have natural antibodies, I won't be getting it.
Fdprefect
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Incept: 2021-03-24

Atlanta
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We just had to take my elderly mother to the ER for dangerously elevated potassium (hyperkalemia). She has been taking chemo for the last couple of weeks to treat ovarian cancer but to my knowledge, Carbo/Taxol does not induce hyperkalemia. Her weekly CBC bloodwork came back this morning with the results.

What I just learned is that Covid (or more likely, the spike protein) CAN be a cause of hyperkalemia.

She hasn't had Covid but guess what, she did get the jab about 5 weeks ago.

Of course, there is no way of knowing whether the vaxx is the cause. I had not heard whether it can result in things like causing dangerously high levels of potassium requiring immediate hospitalization.

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Nadavegan
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The South
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@craiglong, lots of good information here:

https://ncc4cr.com/

Citizens are suing Cooper over the State of Emergency, as well as pushing for passport protection.
Nadavegan
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The South
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Ha @Redjack, I grew up about 5 miles from the east shore of Lake Erie, so...
Reformedhippy
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Incept: 2020-07-01

Rural, OK
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Those of you considering voting with your feet by relocating to a more freedom friendly state, check out Oklahoma. Rural areas don't care about masks or vex either. Like Nebraska, people keep to themselves unless there is some emergency when neighbors help each other. Lots of fresh food. Great protections, see below. (Liberals, don't move here, you will hate it.)

Just this year:

Senate Bill 631, the Second Amendment Sanctuary State Act, prevents the confiscation or surrender of firearms, gun accessories, or ammunition from law-abiding Oklahomans, protecting the right to keep and bear arms guaranteed by the United States Constitution.

House Bill 1674 grants civil and criminal immunity for drivers who unintentionally injure or kill protesters while fleeing from a riot.

House Bill 1775 prohibits teaching of so-called critical race theory.

House Bill 2030 requires high school students to pass the U.S. Civics Test, part of the naturalization process, in order to graduate beginning in the 2022-23 school year.

House Bill 2335 bans state agencies from mandating vaccines (with some exemptions). No state agency shall enact a rule requiring the general public receive a vaccine, nor should they discriminate against people who refuse to vaccinate themselves or their children.

Josephh
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Incept: 2020-12-12

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@Redjack that describes all rural areas from my view. The key is to keep quiet and pitch in where you can. Church, school, harvest, etc. I moved to a rural area over 10 years ago. It takes time to be accepted. Even now Im an outsider but my kids arent so much. It took several years for my wife to adapt but all in all its been positive. Stay on the good side of farmers. Be honest and respectful and theyll slowly spread the word for you. There are bad folks too, theyre easier to spot. I could not stand suburbia.
Nickdanger
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@Reformedhippy,
Please don't advertise the benefits of Oklahoma anywhere else but here, lol! I really don't want this state to appear as a sanctuary on the general public's radar. It seems that when outsiders migrate to a "free" state, they end up voting for the same things that caused their old habitat to become uninhabitable. When I post things about Oklahoma, I mention the hot, humid summers, that it's the allergy capital of the USSA, and yes, the bugs! Hopefully, they will think twice...

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Abelardlindsey
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There was an expected swine flu pandemic in 1976 that they prepared lots of vaccines for. They rolled them out and a bunch of people got Gillian-Barre Syndrome from them. This ended the swine flu vaccine effort for 1976.

How does the adverse reaction rate for the covid-19 vaccines compare to that of the 1976 swine flu vaccine? I would think this comparison, assuming that the covid-19 ones are worse, would also be useful information for any of us who end up resorting to lawsuits against employers or other institutions in our lives.
Garrett
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Incept: 2021-04-20

Ann Arbor, MI
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Another brilliant post and white pill.

The sad & scared idiots who took the not-vaccine are now, on average, walking petri dishes whose organs are being attacked by "harmless" spike proteins... yikes!

But, I wonder if part of the plan was to create that problem so that further mRNA "therapy" is the only fix for those people? So, now "gene therapy" is permanent for them?

This seems like the medical-industrial equivalent of the "self-licking ice cream cone" as seen in the military (ex: a defectively-designed "solution" requiring
$$$ to fix and use).
Invisiblesun
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Incept: 2020-04-08

Maryland
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Think of the vaccines as a for-profit means of variolation. Of course you could get this variolation for free just by living life normal.

My work colleagues, ages 20 to 55 have been getting the jab. As the youngest ones go in for their appointment they acknowledge that they expect to take the next day off of work as they recover.

These youngins' seem oblivious that the choice they are making is the worse choice for their personal health. But the peer pressure is great and I suppose they are well trained in being conformist.
Sancho
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Incept: 2013-12-06

Way, way south of Rio Grande
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I went to VAERS as you said, I wanted to check for myself. I've grown skeptic about everything that is Covid relate. From the scareporn from government to the idiotic position of many "libertarians" that hop onto every conspiracy theory bandwagon.

Since I like to use R to visualize data, I went to the raw download page. Just the first sight told me everything I need to know. 4 Months. The size of the files is double that previous full year. Yes, doctors are much more aware and willing to report this year, because they have been relaxed all this time and have spare time to do the reporting.

It is beyond me how people can ignore what is in front of their eyes. It is either the madness of the crowds (it is real) or plain simple criminal intent. Or both, a few criminals preying on the madness of the scared sheep.

Inside, the data is even worst. 109785 Adverse effect reports. Of these, 109199 are for COVID, 77 for Flu and the rest is all the others.

Thank you for bringing this good quality, trusted source of information up, for us to see.
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Mannfm11
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DFW, Tx
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I think we start out with a class action suit against Facebook and Twitter, for censoring anti vaccine reports. Zuckerberg and Jack need to be stripped of every dime. Next is Bill Gates, who should be sued, stripped of his assets and shot one morning at sunrise.

Next is fake doctor, Fauci and his old lady. A chainsaw and meat cleaver should be used on this guy, the parts stacked in the street, covered with firewood, burned and the ashes flushed down the nearest ****ter.

I have a tenant who works for a local chain owned by Safeway. Against her best judgement, took the vaccine at the demand of the employer. The second shot has her on her ass. They gave her $100 as an inducement. She knows what I think.

I take dance lessons, because I got sucked in and found it a challenge. We are in a ****ed up world, because people no longer dance in bars. That is beside the point. The point is, they had an event somewhere and 3 women were talking about the vaccine and asked me, if I had taken a vaccine or was going to sign up. I told them I hadn't lost my mind, yet. Based on known statistics, some of them had a better chance of dying on the trip home than from CV19. Another guy, aged 70 asked me if I had taken my shots yet. I told him I had a 45 auto and that would be the only shots I would be taking. Of course, I got the look like I had lost my mind. There is no understanding of the risks of taking this crap, versus the benefits. I suspect Bob probably had a break even return, being 70, but he looks pretty healthy.

I have a black female tenant and her son would came down with the crap at New Years. They went to the hospital and came back home. I told her, whatever you do, don't let them put you in the hospital. She said someone at the hospital told her that her chances of coming out alive were very slim, so I didn't get an argument.

I hate to sound like a nut, but we are paying a lot of bureaucrats and companies to commit genocide on the American population. Americans need to quit looking at their hemorrhoids' and start paying attention. I haven't seen one thing out of the Biden administration that isn't geared to destroy the American people. Congress is on a looting campaign unrecognized at any time in the past. Fauci and company have been elevated to sainthood, while killing tens of thousands, maybe tens of millions. We have a climate bureaucracy that has intentionally twisted data to create what they are now calling a climate crisis. Lies and damn lies and damn liars. Biden has us on a path to squander an entire generation of capital down a black hole we will never escape. By 2030, the USA will have a living standard akin to Peru, not enough electricity to power the lights, much less the autos and water utilities that no longer work.

Then we have Gates, himself. People need to wake up the fact Gates believes 90% of us need to go. The idea to vaccinate the world and a 90% genocide do not compute. Once the richest man in the world, Gates is now the most dangerous, making Stalin, Mao and Hitler look like rank amateurs.

Then we have cancel culture. These people are pushing the USA to civil war. I have Fox Business going, because I like to watch the numbers and they just had a report of the left making up a white supremacy symbol and launching a campaign against anyone who happens to have their hand in that shape. A utility worker had his hand out the window, cracking his knuckles and his hand was in that shape. He was photographed and fired, by some cancel culture creep. Where are the attacks by white supremacists they keep talking about? Right out of the government. Made up bull****. Keep a list.

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Mannfm11
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DFW, Tx
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Jesjohn94 wrote..
I will be surprised if the authorities around the world don't succeed in covering up the dangers of the jab. The west is entirely built on the elites making money from scams. The undemocratic countries like China and Russia are at least honest enough to not give a **** about individuals.


You know, I have thought about getting out of the USA, because at least the people in other places know where they stand. The USA, people are pure idiots. The logical IQ in this country is around 65 at best. We are lied to by the government and press and contrary is now being censored. The government is using delusion to******us for everything they can get. Biden wants a capital gains tax increase, while they are inflating the crap out of everything. That isn't a tax, it is theft. The DOJ and FBI are plotting genocide on the masses, by repeating the lie of white nationalist terrorism. Where the hell is it? The mass shooters are generally leftists. White on black crime is a fraction of black on white crime as is white on Asian crime compared to black on Asian crime. Why is everything a white person does considered racial, while others are forgiven?

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Abelardlindsey
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"You don't like me, I don't like you, but if the flood comes we will help each other out till it goes down and then we can go back to hating each other"


I am generally of this mentality.

Jules
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Incept: 2009-04-18

Pickled in the brine of futility
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Ok, let's play "Here, hold my beer"!
Winters were almost unsurvivable growing up in South Dakota. Didn't think there could be a worse place on earth to spend 5 months of the year...until I moved to Illinois.
Colorado is a much nicer place, altho I hear tell Tennessee is pretty good livin' too.
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Meanwhile, back on topic, Karl I sure hope you're right about all those bast***'s being done. But don't count them out yet. They have too much to lose to back down now, imo. I suspect they will be throwing the full weight of the entire fed gov at this before they admit any wrongdoing.

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Kokobeware
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Thanks again KD. These tickers are literally life-savers.

I've had plenty of friends / acquaintances take the jab. All have been Moderna or PFE. Probably 65% have gotten hammered and have been off their feet for several days to a week. 1 actually coded and was brought back. The remaining 35% were not impacted at all. Due to the jabs sensitivity to temperature, I'm wondering if some of the jabs were "spoiled" and essentially simply solution when injected. Just pondering.
Tedstriker1809
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Incept: 2020-05-15

Bumfuque, CO
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Here's a good, accessible overview of the Swine Flu and its vaccination problems.

https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/....

What is fascinating is are the numerous parallels with COVID.

"Within 10 months, nearly 25% of the US population, or 45 million citizens, was vaccinated, but serious problems persisted throughout the process (2). Due to the urgency of creating new immunizations for a novel virus, the government used an attenuated live virus for the vaccine instead of a inactivated or killed form, increasing the probability of adverse side effects among susceptible groups of people receiving the vaccination. Furthermore, prominent American scientists and health professionals began questioning the campaigns large expense and its drain on scarce public health resources (2).

With President Fords reelection campaign looming on the horizon, the campaign increasingly appeared politically motivated. The rationale for mass vaccination seemed to stem from only the barest of biological reasoning it turned out that the flu wasnt even related to the virus that caused the grisly 1918 epidemic and, indeed, those who were infected with the flu only suffered from a mild illness while the vaccine, for the reasons stated above, resulted in over four-hundred and fifty people developing the paralyzing Guillain-Barr syndrome."
Billhrny
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Incept: 2019-06-19

Northern Virginia
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My employer is still threatening to can people if they don't get vaccinated...and the people who do get the jabs display it like a badge of honor...like the fools who post pics of their vaccine cards on social media.

It's just getting worse....maybe because I have found myself in the heart of the swamp here in NOVA...but in just about every work related meeting people do an around the room and ask about vax status. This includes outside agencies we do business with. I remain silent. But silence is a dead giveaway.

The company is making plans to return to normal since they are tracking everyone's "status." Already we have pro-vax co-workers saying things like "When we return to work, how will we be protected from "THOSE" people....you know the people who aren't vaccinated?" And they say it with such disdain.

HR, senior management, sponsors, co-workers, front-line managers, and now even travel and finance all have access to our vaccine status and records..and track where people are in the process.

I have written our legal counsel with my concerns...as have others...but she said it comes "from the top" and the BOD has approved this course of action.

I assume that since raising my hand and talking against recent actions I am now being monitored very closely.

I just remain silent as I have started to look for other work. I pray I leave on my terms not theirs. But when I do leave...I decided to burn this bridge big time.
Nadavegan
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Incept: 2017-05-03

The South
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@billhrny, are you aware that the EUA explicitly states that you cannot be fired for this? So if you are fired, you have grounds for a wrongful termination lawsuit. Keep looking, but by no means should you be living in fear.
Jc3
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Incept: 2020-03-02

South Texas 93 miles from Houston
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@Fdprefect: it could be as you suggested BUT check her recent diet.

My wife got hyperkalemia when she ate potassium-rich foods almost exclusively for a few weeks straight and drank V8 juice. ER had her drink yucky stuff that binds excess potassium and then you excrete it. Her cardiologist spotted it in the pre-visit bloodwork as it can really screw you up if not caught. He's the one her sent her directly to ER, do not pass go, they'll collect the $2,000.

Being "encouraged" to damage your body sucks. Being "fired" for not wanting to be a walking failed experiment for many will not end well for employers. They may even learn from their severe error if/when key employees who got vexxed become major drags on their employer-paid health plans or become disabled(workmens comp until that runs out), or die. Maybe the vexxed will face higher premiums for both healthcare coverage and life insurance for THEIR mistake.

Count me in on donating non-vexxed blood when it becomes a premium-priced product.

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Fdprefect
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Incept: 2021-03-24

Atlanta
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"Already we have pro-vax co-workers saying things like "When we return to work, how will we be protected from "THOSE" people....you know the people who aren't vaccinated?"



I've actually done this but the opposite way. I've asked my boss if I can stay away from all the vaxxies who are likely shedding dangerous spike proteins. He was curious about this question and so I told him that there is some evidence now that people who've been jabbed are a danger to others and I'd rather not be around them.

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Smooth
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Incept: 2020-03-26

USA
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I saw a 33 year old completely healthy woman who got the jab and then developed a headache, in the ER her blood pressure was 180/120 and it remained markedly elevated for weeks despite two blood pressure drugs.
Billhrny
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Incept: 2019-06-19

Northern Virginia
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@FDprefect - You're awesome.

@Nadavegan - Yes, I am aware of what protections people are supposed to have while a vaccine is under an EUA.

My company responded with the decision from the EEOC that seemed to negate that and said employers could require a vaccine under an EUA. BUT, and this is a big BUT - the state of California put out an analysis of this (Which you can still get online), that said that people still have statutory protections from EUA vaccine mandates under the FDA FD&C Act. They also say that the EEOC did not have the authority to essentially override the FDA.

Behind the scenes, I have been told by contacts that I have in senior management at other companies, that just about everyone is waiting for the lawsuits to be filed (essentially when they first person to get fired for refusing it) before taking action....right now everyone is in limbo. They don't want to seem like they are anti-vax, especially in the DC area, so they have to play along until the courts say to stop it. Unfortunately someone will have to get fired and bring suit for this to be settled.

Companies and funded organizations that are in bed with the government, from the DoD to CDC to FDA and onwards, must appear to sign along with the GIN. And yes, GIN is an acronym I have become familiar with while in DC...Gated Institutional Narrative = GIN...and these beltway bandits take this seriously. Go against the GIN and you lose status...and possibly funding.

Right now the GIN in the beltway is "The vaccine is safe and effective and everyone should be vaccinated. Those that say the vaccine is dangerous or not effective is peddling conspiracy theories. Those that say there are alternate treatments that work are loonies or just plain stupid."

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