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Lizardqueen 5k posts, incept 2008-04-01
2023-01-14 13:17:51

I wish I could be as positive as this Ticker but I am not, for several reasons.

1) Personal. I know very few people not MRNA-jabbed, only my sister and niece and their families. The personal loss will be huge if they all got a hot lot.

2) Nationwide. The amount of unrest this realization will cause is going to be immense and we are likely to lose critical workers in multiple critical industries that we can't afford to lose. Older experienced workers tend to know how things work better than the younger ones, and those elders are the ones most likely to get vaxxed. How well are things going to run without capable nuke plant operators, for instance?

3) Medical. The strain on the health care system is going to be catastrophic when all the health problems come fully into bloom. Combine this with the widespread vax mandates which will likely have messed up many doctors and nurses and you're talking near ELE. Will the unvaxxed medical staff want to come back to work for the organizations that fired them over it? I doubt it.

Yeah if you are young and in good shape you made not need much of the system but if you do you might be f*cked. If you get in an accident caused by someone having a Suddenly at the wheel and need surgery you may have trouble finding a capable surgeon still left alive, or one that won't Thud in the OR while working on you.
If you have an older loved one who needs care you might lose them because of this as well.

As of 2 weeks before the mandate kicked in where I work (hospital) 80% of a 7000 person staff headcount was vaccinated. 10% more got it by the mandate date. The remaining 10% either got canned, resigned or (possibly) got an exemption.
If this holds true nationwide and a large portion of that 80% has problems then we all have problems, vaxxed and unvaxxed alike.

4) Geopolitical. The root cause of all this is mostly located in the US. Yeah we can blame the Chinese lab for probably letting it out, but we funded the GOF research and we developed, approved, and promoted the clotshots. We also covered up the problems.
When the citizens of the affected countries start pointing fingers at their own governments, those governments are going to point their fingers right to US.
Honestly, if we become an international pariah and/or get nuked over this we deserve it.

I'm very glad the tide seems to be turning and the long-suppressed information is coming out as it will hopefully mitigate any further damage but the already-done damage is huge. The fallout from this damage is going to be huge and long-lasting, and potentially be literal.

Yeah maybe in 10 years all will be well for those who kept their health. But I'm not sure we'll make it that long.

"The closer you get to the drain, the faster you spin."
---some rando on ZeroHedge
Tickerguy 200k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2023-01-14 13:22:26

@Lizardqueen the sooner the entire death cult garbage that is currently "health care" implodes and since there is always demand it will be filled and rebuilt the better.

As proof of this I offer that the HHS 20% bonus for a covid diagnosis on the entire bill paid by Medicare or Medicaid, irrespective of whether Covid had anything to do with why the person is there or their prognosis, is still being paid.

The entire lobbying and government organization set, along with every hospital administrator who is feasting on this deserves to be eaten by lions on the National Mall as a modern Roman Spectacle.

I care not what happens to any of them, even if it means that if some drunk asshole hits me on the way home from the grocery store I'm the one who meets St. Peter a bit early. I accept this as not only necessary but wildly to the common good of society generally.

"Anyone wearing a mask will be presumed to be intending armed robbery and immediately shot in the face. Govern yourself accordingly."
Heartlander 3k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2023-01-14 13:47:48

We could not know what long term side effects those vaxs had because it was impossible. Not enough time had elapsed to know the 2 or 3 or 5 year side effects. Why would I ever put such a thing in my body that cannot ever be reversed?

Thinking back to the initial vaxxx rollout, most of the people I knew could be divided into three categories:

1) People in high-risk categories themselves, or who were family members or caregivers for people in high-risk categories;

2) People who were not high-risk per se, but were so traumatized by all the masking, distancing, shutdowns, and isolation, that they were gullible to the government's promise that the vaxx would allow life to finally get "back to normal";

3) Common-sense skeptics -- "This vaccine is awfully darn new, I think I'll wait and see how others do with it before I take it myself."

Nearly everyone in categories 1 and 2 got injected.

Category 3 actually started out sizeable, which is why the Evil Ones came out with the mandates. No jab, no job. People gotta provide for their families, so a lot of those skeptics succumbed because they felt they had no choice.

Fortunately, enough of us were too ornery, and too respectful of our own bodies, to succumb to the vaxx ghouls under any circumstance, and so the ghouls never did succeed in their goal of eliminating the control group.

We stand as witnesses. Our very bodies stand as witness.

Oliver1655 380 posts, incept 2012-08-02
2023-01-14 13:57:06


Suffering from a medical coincidence ?
Blackcrow 215 posts, incept 2021-04-04
2023-01-14 13:57:11

Great Ticker, as usual, but I fear it is just a ray at dawn before the Force 10 Hurricane arrives.

You can't call this the Coof "Epilogue" and there is going to be way more than a 3% death/disability rate. I would call everything that has come before "Prologue".

This jab has gone into the arms of 5.51 billion people or 71.8% of the world's population. Most have had >1 shot for a total of 12.7 billion shots given. There are at least 3 reasons for doom here.

1) With the Lipid Nano Particle (LNP) itself, you get uptake into every cell of your body. In oncology, the LNP was used as a delivery vehicle to get drugs into CANCER cells and across the blood-brain barrier (BBB). The BBB is very lipophilic (fat) and cancer cells and their blood vessels have a different lipid bilayer composition. Remember that every cell in your body is enclosed in a LIPID bilayer, called the plasma membrane, like a soap bubble. It is what separates the interior of the cell from the outside environment. On the surface of your cells, in this lipid bilayer, floats thousands of molecules that have an extracellular domain connected to a transmembrane domain and then an intracellular domain. These molecules are in dynamic communication with each other both on the surface and within the cell. The lipid bilayer allows these molecules to move freely around the entire surface of the cell as they perform vital cellular functions. (Here is a pix: This is a cartoon description of an incredibly elegant and beautiful system, of course, for illustrations sake.

The LNPs have the ability to enter every single cell in your body. Every single one. There is no cell in the body that will be spared. None.

We know the Japanese study with Pfizer demonstrated this fact as well as preferential uptake in liver, spleen, bone marrow, ovary and testicles. This differential uptake is accounted for by solubility of the LNP in cells with slightly different lipid membrane compositions, ie, some cells are more or less lipophilic than others. This study was done in mice using luciferase in the LNP so who knows what is happening in humans.

One real problem here is that the LNP of these mRNA vaccines is much larger than 10 nm, the human studies for biodegradability have not been done and thus may never be excreted from the body. There are no autopsy/molecular studies in vaccinated humans on the longevity of these LNPs in human cells that I could find. These LNPs themselves can be toxic and if >10 nm cannot be excreted from the human body and must be biodegradable. https://jnanobiotechnology.biomedcentral....

There is an entire science of these things ( and it is worth a read. You can design LNPs of different size, charge, lipid composition, and a whole other host of characteristics.

Lastly, these LNPs were developed for use in CANCER patients for DRUGS in diseases where long term survival if the patients was not assured. Thus, there are no long term human studies of the effects of LNPs in humans. Now we are injecting LNPs containing ACTIVE GENETIC MATERIAL into billions of human beings that are expected to live a normal life span. That is something very different.

2) The vaccine mRNA enclosed in the LNP is NOT a normal RNA that would otherwise be destroyed in minutes. It has a nucleic acid substitutions that make it more difficult for the body or cell to degrade. This is called pseudouridination, the study of which is in its infancy. This altered mRNA exists for weeks, not minutes. (
PMC8786601/). It has to occur and be active even longer or IgG4 isotype switching cannot occur. IgG4 isotype switching requires months of exposure to an antigen, this would be the spike protein produced by the vaccine mRNA. So both the mRNA has to be long lived and active AND the spike protein has to last on the cell surface. Additionally, you cannot be assured that the fidelity of an altered mRNA transcription is the same as native mRNA: Thus you have no real control over what proteins are produced NOR the epigenetic modulation that occurs post translation. Studies have only focused on looking at the overall production of the targeted mRNA not on the amount or sequence of any degraded or altered variants. Therefore, you have no control over what is really being produced on the surface of every cell in your body AND THUS HAVE POTENTIALLY LOST CONTROL OVER THE SPECIFICITY OF THE IMMUNE RESPONSE.

3) From the above, we can see how every cell into your body that has cellular organelles is a factory making the vaccine mRNA spike protein as well as any other bastard protein in this imperfect process. These proteins are right next to your normal cellular molecules, some of which may be abnormal and part of an ongoing clinical or subclinical auto-immune response. Spike protein is highly immunogenic and now your immune system is seeing not only spike protein which mimics at least 28 other tissues in your body, but YOUR OWN CELLULAR PROTEINS, which may already be abnormal. So you are not only generating antibodies to spike that cross-react with your body but also producing antibodies to any abnormal tissues you may have.

That might explain why my earliest observation about the jabbed patients is that everything wrong they already had got worse post jab. Call it Crow's Law.

We have already touched on the subject of original antigenic sin, ADE, degradation of T and B cell function, TOL receptor abnormalities as well as other host immune derangements in the jabbed.

Sigh. Sorry so long.

I have struggled not to assign motives to those behind this disaster but to understand the pathophysiologic derangements to find a way to help the jabbed.

I leave Nuremberg 2.0 to those who can be more measured because, quite frankly, I fear what I would do if I had to power to punish those responsible.

This is shaping up to be the greatest public health disaster of all time. 3% death and disability? Way too optimistic.
Bzelbob 500 posts, incept 2021-09-12
2023-01-14 13:59:01

Magnificient post Tickerguy! While they spouted lies, you were telling Truths. smiley

Now the "bill" has finally come due for the liars and they know they are going to have to pay...and pay deeply.

Maybe with everything they have...

May it be so!


"Threats are illogical. And payment is usually expensive." - Sarek of Vulcan
Querant 854 posts, incept 2021-09-19
2023-01-14 14:52:50


Reality check greatly appreciated. Optimism and hope should be tempered by acknowledgement of the landscape ahead. We will all have parts to play.

"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us." ― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring"

Tsdj86 92 posts, incept 2022-12-06
2023-01-14 14:53:00


You are spot on, I couldn't have said it better myself.

Absolute abject evil and money at any cost reigns supreme in todays world.

What a disgrace!
Kari 60 posts, incept 2021-10-19
2023-01-14 14:53:18


The things you said about being ornery made me smile. For better or worse, I've been a contrarian all my life and my husband is too. Makes things interesting at times in our relationship but when we are united in our contrarianism it's awesome because we reinforce each other. The most surprising member of my circle who resisted was my mother who is as far opposite from me as it is possible to be. She is a born rule-follower. I am shocked to this day that she resisted and there was immense social pressure on her to get it, even though she is retired. She is the healthiest person I know of any age (and she is turning 75 this year) and has not had COVID. She didn't even get the flu that I most certainly was already infected with after spending 5 hours in a car with me on Thanksgiving plus spending all day together; I became symptomatic the very next day.
Giannmi 82 posts, incept 2009-09-03
2023-01-14 14:53:36

"Those who cheated (e.g. bribing the doc $50 to squirt it in the trash) are arguably in the worst situation of all. You branded your own chart by doing that and in today's world with EMR (electronic medical records) you can never undo it."

Huge mostly overlooked point and it gets to the heart of the matter. If your gut/conscience told you the shot was a bad idea, a decision to "fake" is a violation of your own being. It would gnaw at you the rest of your days no matter how it turned out for you on a financial/comfort basis.
Bluto 2k posts, incept 2021-07-10
2023-01-14 15:28:43

The other impact the "fakers" had was to make life that much more difficult for us hard-core resisters.

"You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end -- which you can never afford to lose -- with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever
Wayiwalk 1k posts, incept 2016-11-09
2023-01-14 15:29:32

5.51 billion people worldwide.

The notion of the international community wanting the blood of the Americans that brought this to them (and us) - it is the first time I've ever wanted to see a world court that would address wrongs of US citizens.

Bad precedent, sure, but this is unprecedented.

If only prosecuted by the US against these criminals, it would go a long way of undoing the nonsense out of Washington DC of the last 5 decades.

The Lockdowns Will Continue Until the Morale Improves!

I keep thinking, "it can't get any worse" and then it does!
Thegreatunwashed 282 posts, incept 2021-09-13
2023-01-14 15:29:42

Giannmi, this is a remarkable idiotic take. NO ONE has a moral obligation to tell the truth to tyranny. Faking a vax card was nothing more than a strategic, risk calculation for people forced into that decision.

"Those who cheated (e.g. bribing the doc $50 to squirt it in the trash) are arguably in the worst situation of all. You branded your own chart by doing that and in today's world with EMR (electronic medical records) you can never undo it."

Huge mostly overlooked point and it gets to the heart of the matter. If your gut/conscience told you the shot was a bad idea, a decision to "fake" is a violation of your own being. It would gnaw at you the rest of your days no matter how it turned out for you on a financial/comfort basis[\q]

I will have NO survivor's guilt, except a bit of shame for all my Schadenfreude.
Tickerguy 200k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2023-01-14 15:31:25

@Thegreatunwashed - Nope.

Those who "faked a card" may justify it that way but they contributed to the tyranny directly and did so through false pretense. If caught, EVEN IF NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE JAB ITSELF, they still fucked other people -- most-specifically, those who were refusing.

If I was in hiring position and believed in personal medical freedom I would blackball every single person who had ever done this no matter how far into the past because their action helped to put a boot on someone else's neck. To the extent I could legally figure out if they lied I would, and if I caught them -- they're done.

"Anyone wearing a mask will be presumed to be intending armed robbery and immediately shot in the face. Govern yourself accordingly."
Packetcap 2k posts, incept 2021-07-23
2023-01-14 15:46:08

So, personally, meaning, me, wife, daughter, all unvaxxed. Win! It was a trivially easy decision, we knew that a vaccine can't be developed in one year because real animal testing takes much longer. Also, It was clear there was a very high level of hysteria surrounding covid and hysterical people do not make good decisions.

A personal loss (temporary) is a wide variety of jobs around me require the vax, this is making it a little harder to be re-employed.

Society wise we have suffered a tremendous loss.

The vax was not safe, not effective, and useless. It introduced gigantic levels of health risk for those who've taken it. Risks that we're just learning the consequences of, like the rewriting of immune response. Sadly we're going to learn alot more as this stage of global clinical trials wears on.

Our health scare system will implode. It was going to anyways, but this will cause the implosion to be faster. Too many sick patients with incurable problems.

Our college student class was universally vaxxed. Time will tell if they are universally damaged. But you have an entire group aged 18-28 (including grad/phd students)

The early death and disability rate I feel will be much greater than 3%. This in combination with the baby boomers retiring (and that group is HIGHLY vaxxed & boosted) could be devastating financially.

Finally trust in public institutions, government, media, university, medical, etc is going to go to zero if enough people die.
Forever_young 468 posts, incept 2022-11-22
2023-01-14 15:46:41

You know, it really isn't said enough.
Thank you. Thank you for this site, thank you for the information you freely share, thank you for this community, thank you to this community.

I recall when this covid BS started, I remember when I was sent home from work to telework for a couple weeks "just as a precaution," about the time two weeks turned to four my alarm bells started going off.

Wait a minute, I thought to myself, isn't the best way to end this to let it burn itself out? If we let it linger, it will keep coming back and with more mutations. This was around the time I started digging around for information which eventually led me here.
When the clot shots came out I already didn't trust it, I like to think I have some common sense, so I did some research. Didn't take long to make the decision that shit would not go inside me. Thought that would be it but no, the mandates came along. I prepared myself and my wife for some huge changes. Some belt tightening, and some loss of comfort. But it was this site, Mr. Denninger, that helped me fill in the missing pieces I needed to stick to my convictions and tell them to fuck off. We are not alone, we are the informed, and we will be heard.

I could see through their propaganda, their attempts to isolate us. Some good people left my place of employment because of this bullshit and plenty of others have gone toward providing the bare minimum. Good. I'm not one to stick my head up at work because, quite frankly, it's not my place to preach. But hearing the others who took the jab and are now getting nervous is satisfying. It takes a lot for me to not smack them in the head and ask what were they thinking. But at the end of the day, I found this place, they could have found this place, there is no excuse.

So again, and probably not for the last time, thank you.
Gtbseeker 12 posts, incept 2023-01-14
2023-01-14 15:46:56


I registered today simply to thank you for your very detailed posts. I've been in a prolonged dialogue with the docs in my family, trying to provide them alternate information to encourage them to, first, stop boosting and, second, to stop pushing this poison. I'm celebrating that some weeks ago the scales finally dropped from the eyes of one with him telling me that he no longer trusts Fauci. Karl's posts are consistently helpful but the technical information in your posts really augment his analysis.
Forever_young 468 posts, incept 2022-11-22
2023-01-14 15:47:00

Faking a vax card was nothing more than a strategic, risk calculation for people forced into that decision.

There were two appropriate responses. The first was a direct "fuck you" to those who pushed it. And if I didn't have a wife and kids to provide for, I would have taken that route.

The other was religious exemption. That definition is so broad in this country I was almost hoping for mine to be rejected because not only would it get me a huge payday, I knew I put my actual beliefs in mine so wouldn't even feel a tinge of sympathy as I wiped them clean.

Lying about it should have never even entered their minds.
Bluto 2k posts, incept 2021-07-10
2023-01-14 15:50:48

Giannmi, this is a remarkable idiotic take. NO ONE has a moral obligation to tell the truth to tyranny. Faking a vax card was nothing more than a strategic, risk calculation for people forced into that decision.


EVERYONE has a moral obligation to resist tyranny.

And you don't do that by playing footsie with the devil by "faking vax cards"

"You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end -- which you can never afford to lose -- with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever
Elcope 125 posts, incept 2010-02-24
2023-01-14 15:51:09

I briefly considered sliding $100 bills until the doc shoots the clot shot into the trash, but that would require me to compromise my moral by asking someone else to compromise theirs. Not an option.

Instead, I held out as one of those 4% of members of the military who held out for 527 days until the mandate was overturned.

Now accountability for those who issued those illegal orders must occur and I won't be satisfied until Pfizer and others are held in the same regard as the I.G. Farben company.
Asimov 148k posts, incept 2007-08-26
2023-01-14 15:51:18

The idea of faking a card was appealing, a great big "fuck you" to the whole thing. Further consideration led to the conclusion that the only thing that would come of it is the worst of both worlds.

"Oh? You had the shot? Well you have to have this shot too, or you're going to die."

It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity.

Festina lente.
Budxr7 137 posts, incept 2009-07-08
2023-01-14 16:13:04

I do not believe we have or will win. This is strictly down party lines at this point and the collectivists are winning the elections. Guilt will never be properly assigned. In fact, I bet the pure bloods will be blamed for the carnage. And it will be done in the form of a boot stomping on your face. This is far from over, simply the opening salvo.

Neither a borrower nor a lender be;
For loan oft loses both itself and friend,
And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry.
Mariinmd 126 posts, incept 2016-03-04
2023-01-14 16:13:21

Sundance posted an article yesterday a bit after 6 p.m. asking why people did not get the not-a-vaccine. Less than 22 hours later, there are over 2.5K comments on it. It just seems to fit in so well with this very encouraging Ticker.

Most of my family, including my only child, her husband and my juvenile great nieces and nephews, got the vaxx as did most of my friends. Only my youngest sister, who refused it on religious grounds, and myself rejected it. Retiring near the end of January, 2020, from a Fortune 50 corporation proved to be very timely and made it an easier decision since there were no financial consequences for me. I'm just hoping I don't need to bury too many of them but the older adults, at least, insist on getting boosted so...
Thegreatunwashed 282 posts, incept 2021-09-13
2023-01-14 16:17:07

Those who "faked a card" may justify it that way but they contributed to the tyranny directly and did so through false pretense.

I never fell under a vax mandate, so I could be sanctimonious condemn people for not martyring themselves, but the idea is so repugnant to me it almost makes me ill. I would also be a hypocrite, as I regularly violate the speed limit driving home, but never once have called the local police to turn myself in a demand a ticket. I also imagine this forum is FULL of people who sourced themselves some ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine without a doctor's prescription, even though many people likely died in the hospital due to being denied ivermectin. The person who sourced ivermectin while someone else died in the hospital without it f***ed no one. The person who fooled the tyranny f***ed no one either.

Stick a gun in my face and tell me hand over my money, I will not tell you about the $100 bill hid in my boot and still sleep like a baby that evening. Break into my house and demand I tell you where my valuables are hidden, I will commit the lie of omission and not let you know about the cash in the zip-lock in my freezer or the silver coins buried behind the shed. When the SS officer knocks on my door and asks if the Goldsteins are hiding in my basement, I am going to tell him no, even though the answer is yes, and I will feel no need to unburden myself to the local priest.
I could go on and on with a thousand examples. The idea, for an example, of say a 45 or 50 man with a large family and big mortgage and a good career in a limited industry whose employer was imposed a mandate based on government rules, yet they were clearly unvigilant in inspecting and validating the vax cards, the idea they they should martyr themselves, to me is a moral argument as weak as the argument that 20 years should be mandated to get the vax to save grandma, even though the virus was not a threat to them.
People's lives belong to themselves and the idea that government force has any moral validity is childish.

I will have NO survivor's guilt, except a bit of shame for all my Schadenfreude.
Spitcher2 192 posts, incept 2018-05-17
2023-01-14 16:21:21

A battle may have been won, but not the war. Karl, you have to read Turtles all the Way Down. No mandatory "vaccines" for anybody, for anything, for evermore. There is no victory until this is achieved, full stop.
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