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 Amnesty? Absolutely NOT
Tickerguy 190k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2022-11-01 15:13:49

@Heartlander - The problem with the aborted fetus cell-line argument is that an utterly enormous percentage of all drugs currently out there are similarly "polluted" in this fashion, yet nobody has done a goddamn thing about it for the last 50+ years.

It may have saved you in this case but that was pure coincidence, and thus you really need to think long hard on that one.

The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Mikeyjm2 101 posts, incept 2011-10-20
2022-11-01 15:15:42

Medical tyrants know they went wrong but now want to hide behind "we didn't know at the time" to avoid the wrath of those they abused. Infuriating but predictable. If I knew, they could have too.
T2 620 posts, incept 2008-11-17
2022-11-01 15:22:01

And I just read somewhere that theyre developing a version of the jab that doesnt use these cell lines.


In California, no one can hear you scream.
Tickerguy 190k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2022-11-01 15:21:53

@Jacksparrow -
Karl, Just to give you an update on Clott Adams. He got covid anyway, and now has long covid. He can't work out and has constant pain, and has trouble even walking up stairs. He announced that he considers his life over, and if things don't improve in one year he plans to commit suicide.

Well, odds on that are that he's fucked.

The jab likely imprinted his immune system and in addition he got some amount of cardiac damage, as we know now that basically everyone who takes it does. When the virus mutated around the jab antibodies he got nailed with the virus itself. Due to the imprinting he couldn't build an appropriate response and thus did not properly clear it as would normally occur, even if you got it pretty bad (like I did; I have no discernible residual cardio impairment at all, and recovered more-quickly than I did with what I presume was H1N1 in January of 2020.) Thus he wound up with viremia, which in turn compounded the damage from the shot.

If that happened he's fucked, and I'll lay a pretty sizable wager that's exactly what did happen. There are plenty of snake-oil salesmen who claim they can fix this in whole or part but I wouldn't bet on any of it actually working.

The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Tickerguy 190k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2022-11-01 15:22:19

@T2 Well of course.

It was also a fool's game to try to rely on that sort of "exemption".

The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Technica 58 posts, incept 2020-04-10
2022-11-01 15:29:49

One of my health books states to the point how to avoid messes like the covid vaxx crap.

"IF TV PROMOTES IT, THE GOVERNMENT LOVES IT and everyone nags you to do it, ignore it."
Mjeff87 1k posts, incept 2021-11-22
2022-11-01 15:46:02

(slight tangent to what @Technia is saying, but relevant)

My asshole of an (ex) PCP tried to get me to agree to take Ozempic (sp?) for my pre-diabetes, claiming a side effect was also weight loss. That was the final straw for me, and I fired him. Heard a news story on the radio this morning that there's a developing shortage of it now due to too many doctors prescribing it for weight loss, and true diabetics are having difficulty sourcing it. Fucking asshole pharma shill.

Si Vis Pacem, para Bellum
Hobbled 222 posts, incept 2011-02-09
2022-11-01 15:46:25

Don't have a lot of time to read all of this right now but - right on sir.

And thank you for the countless hours and brain power you spent keeping me informed. I have always been a contrarian and hate the hard mentality. Even so your missives helped me stay the course. Thanks so very much, and I do mean that sincerely.

And even though I cannot rise to your level of intelligence a deep overarching background was not necessary. People just need to pay attention and think for themselves. Early on you could read the labels for facemasks which clearly read that such a device was NOT effective in preventing disease transmission. EVERY package so stated. Yet people are sheep and obviously didn't read what they bought. And it was months before those labels were changed for EUA reasons. How many thousands of labels stating the obvious, whether you are a subject matter expert or not, were ignored? This alone should have ended the scaredemic in its tracks. Full stop, no more crap.
Cyben 55 posts, incept 2022-10-21
2022-11-01 15:46:44

It is... darkly amusing to see people compare this to the holocaust. The holocaust at best was a dwarf of a crime in its time, compared to what went on in Russia, let alone Mao's operations in China which were the scale of all the rest combined and probably worse.

I concluded about a year ago that the scamdemic, schlockdowns, and fauxines will, when all is tallied, constitute easily the most horrific crime and mass murder in all of history up to this point. It's an insult to this crime to compare it to a crime that only gets spotlight because Germany was a loser where the victors write the histories.

Perspective: The Russian army found the majority of the mass graves in Germany.

Perspective 2: Entities in the USA are responsible for much worse since, even before The Scam.

Punch a Nazi? Not when a bunch of still-practicing Mandatoids need it first, and then the globalite social-planners. Nazis are third or fourth stringers behind "communist" and "capitalist" globalite wings.
Bzelbob 355 posts, incept 2021-09-12
2022-11-01 15:46:57

Wind sowed: Check!
Whirlwind reaped: In progress...


"Threats are illogical. And payment is usually expensive." - Sarek of Vulcan 395 posts, incept 2021-12-17
2022-11-01 15:48:35

Tickerguy wrote..
A just and lawful society would already have hundreds in the dock awaiting trial on capital charges.

@Tickerguy -- I'm trying:

I'd have to look in other States' Constitutions, but there's likely a few other States that allow such a public-driven solution.

Smooth wrote..
She deserves to die, period. And all the others. Totally concur with vigilante justice.

@Smooth -- The list includes my own governor, Trump, and many others.
I would suggest that company boards (and HR heads) should also be on the list.

Abelardlindsey wrote..
If this writer is sincere about an amnesty, she should be advocating the following things:

1) Constitutional amendment that enshrines bodily autonomy.
2) Constitutional amendment enshrining right to travel and move about.
3) Governments are now allowed to have emergency powers under any condition whatsoever. I don't care if the comet is coming to hit the Earth. No emergency powers.
4) Complete the separation of state and religion by extending it to a separation of state and economy.

@Abelardlindsey -- WRT #2, we already have it via the 9th, 10th, and the traditional "privlidges and immunities" (via the Articles of Confederation, IIRC Art. 4)... #3 already exists, again via the 9th and 10th... the "emergency powers" bullshit is precisely so those in power can say "Oh, we don't have to abide by the Constitution because EMERGENCY!" And as for #4, about the only way to get that would be a Constitutional amendment defining the Dollar as an exact weight (mass) of Gold or Silver (i.e. no paper/digital monies) AND removing the ability of the Congress to [re]define that weight. (Simply because it's much more difficult to counterfeit precious-metals than it is to print money or digitally alter an electronic balance-sheet.)

Buckeyedoug wrote..
Unless we get a massive red tsunami AND aggressive investigations to expose everything, EVERYTHING, I fear the truth will get put on the back burner, even when people continue to die off.

@Buckeyedoug -- I see no reason, whatsoever, to conclude that a Red Tsunami would matter at all.
After all, Trump is the self-proclaimed "Godfather" of the Stroke Poke... and going against any claim of authority by a government official is extremely out of character for him.
And do you think DeSantis would be any better? How many of the cruise-lines are bankrupt because of their Clot Shot mandate-policies, which our host has pointed out are violating a law DeSantis signed which (if enforced) would cause said cruise-lines bankruptcy?

We CANNOT think that a "Red Win" is at all helpful to the application of Justice --for when, in the past 20 years, did the Republican Party push government accountability? and despite having it as a central party-plank all that time!-- the only way to achieve Justice is to advocate it your own self.
I'm doing what I can with my lawsuits (and petitions), you should do what you can.
Susanlauren 1k posts, incept 2021-05-01
2022-11-01 16:19:57

I am beyond done. Amnesty. I think not. Justice, yes. The damage cannot be undone. And despite the truth of the carnage seeping into the greater public consciousness, these bastards continue to push the jabbs.

I am landing on my feet. Actually, I am ending up in a better position than pre COVID. But it has been a rugged road to get to this place. It is certainly not for the faint of heart. I hate these people with a purple passion.

I have an exemption from the vaxx at my current place of employment. But my "punishment" had been a weekly rapid COVID test and an N-95 mask. That and the 20 percent penalty on health insurance. This is the equivalent of $120 per year, but that isn't the point.

By the way, the testing requirement and special mask requirement went away late last week. Perhaps the wise ones in administration realize the downsides of their policies.

I picked the lowest cost health plan with the thought that I would use it as emergency/ catastrophic protection from major illness or injury. At this point, I want very little of what is offered by the mainstream medical profession.

The damage is done and the fallout is far from over.

Winston2020 442 posts, incept 2020-03-29
2022-11-01 16:20:30

Dr. Peter McCullough: WHERE Is the Outrage Over COVID Vax Deaths? (87 seconds long) - April 25, 2022

Sorry, most people are so sick of the pandemic that they just want to forget about it. Plus the pending economic issues will further distract them from demanding adequate consequences for the perps.

I predict that NONE of the key individuals involved will got to prison or suffer significant economic consequences nor will any Big Pharma corporation be sued out of existence or even for more than the profits they made via their fraud. As a result, since the consequences, if any, of fraud and deceit will be as mild as usual, a recurrence of this will not be deterred in the future. Also, the relevant "regulating agencies" are already totally suborned and will not be reformed either.

Based upon much history, this is an easy prediction.
Cyben 55 posts, incept 2022-10-21
2022-11-01 16:20:35

As far as the "religious exemptions because aborted fetal stem cells in vaccines/medicine trials" crowd....

On the one hand, it's fair to say that the vast majority of people didn't know that was going on.

On the other hand, only the people who have been against abortion during the last fifty years or so have been doing the best they could, knowing about it or not. Anyone else doesn't have moral standing for religious exemptions on that basis, it was all fine to them, up until it was convenient to support an argument from a different motivation.
Heartlander 2k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2022-11-01 16:20:51

I don't yet have it in me to forgive these people for their deeds. As a Christian (crappy one), the good Lord commands that I do so and it is only with his help I'll get'er done. Setting aside future forgiveness, I will never forget.

It is prudent and right to not forget. We only learn from experience if we remember.

The thing I am struggling the most with is the change in relationships with my in-laws, who are very committed Christians, more generous and loving than me by orders of magnitude. But they got the damn shots because they thought that that was the "Christian," loving thing to do. I feel betrayed. There is no rational reason for that, they certainly didn't do it as anything personal against me -- indeed, they got the shots before I even knew, or I might have tried to talk them out of it. (And they certainly never pressured me in any way.) But though it makes no logical sense, it still FEELS like betrayal.

I think what it really is, is grief. Grief that the relationship we had for so many years is altered in some fundamental way and, while we are still friends, the old trust and intimacy is gone and cannot be restored.
Tickerguy 190k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2022-11-01 16:21:32

Just goes to show you that a belief in the "finger of God" thing is, when you get down to it, rather foolish.

The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Packetcap 952 posts, incept 2021-07-23
2022-11-01 16:24:09

"She also thinks kids should get the shot and has hers jabbed. I feel sorry for her kids."

The enemy's kids stand a good chance to grow up to be the enemy. Nancy Pelosi's daughter is an excellent example of this, one of many. Stop caring. Stop feeling sorry. It'll get in the way of doing the needful and prosecuting this war.

Fuzzi 2 posts, incept 2022-11-01
2022-11-01 16:35:39

Found this thread earlier today, registered after not only reading a fantastic rant, but several posts about exemptions. I'd like to offer my experience.

I work for a medical facility, non-clinical role, submitted to an annual flu vax with grumbling. My spouse got Covid vax-injured way back in January 2021, was coerced by co-workers, so I started doing research. When mandates were enforced I felt I needed to get one, prayed about it. Days before I had to file an exemption I was watching a video with scientists talking about cell lines for vaccines. One of the scientists spoke about the kidney line that most vaccines come from, and said that it didn't come from an aborted girl as we were told. She said that the donor has to be alive and without any anesthesia when the organs are harvested or they're not useable. So, like the Planned Parenthood organ harvesting, the vaccine cell lines came from newborn babies who were dissected while still living. I based my exemption on that. When I was asked about the other vaccines I'd taken I said that I didn't know then what I know now.

And if they try to mandate a "non-fetal" vaccine, I will refuse on the basis that they've lied to us in the past, I won't trust them ever again.

Sorry for the long post.
Ib0 43 posts, incept 2022-02-23
2022-11-01 16:36:14

Great article!

What is the reference for the "European study"?
Tickerguy 190k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2022-11-01 16:36:27

@Ib0 it's in the queue...

The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Veeger 889 posts, incept 2013-02-13
2022-11-01 17:27:28


Sorry to hear that you feel betrayed by the in laws. Don't fall for the same lie that they did. I saw many who felt it was 'loving' to get jabbed. It was not. It was foolish, but it 'felt' good. They misunderstand what love is and tried to apply it where it didn't/doesn't belong.

That you 'feel' betrayed is just that, a feeling. And just as wrong as their 'feeling' was/is. They did nothing to betray you. Unless, of course, they then changed in their behavior towards you or their requirements for relationship with you. (Which would indeed be, wait for it, UN loving)

Our society is all about the feelz. Many committed Christians have fallen for that line. Instead, recognize how easily you've 'almost' fallen for the Feelz (of Betrayal) and give grace to them as being a bit imperfect themselves.

Now, if they have lorded it over you, placed restrictions or guilt on your relationship over it, then I'd posit they know nothing of Love AND it's less about betrayal than about drawing boundaries on your part.

I remember the Diamond Princess.

Slowly at first, then all of a sudden.
Bakerv 1k posts, incept 2021-04-21
2022-11-01 17:27:45

"Sorry for the long post."

Laughs in 'Whitehat".
Cyben 55 posts, incept 2022-10-21
2022-11-01 17:27:54

Presuming it's ok to quote an author dead for several hundred years:

"Further than this, how extraordinarily the ways of God have been manifested beyond example... ...God is not willing to do everything and thus take away our free will and that share of glory, which belongs to us."

-Niccolo Machiavelli, The Prince: Chapter XXVI--An exhortation to liberate Italy from the Barbarians.

God requires of people with power first that they do justly. Loving mercy is secondary, and does not mean "always giving" mercy.

"Christians" who say "we just have to pray about it" are either entirely powerless, or craven and unchristian. You don't need to pray when you already know something is wrong, God's already spoken and you've already heard it... now go rectify it.
Heartlander 2k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2022-11-01 17:28:09

@Heartlander - The problem with the aborted fetus cell-line argument is that an utterly enormous percentage of all drugs currently out there are similarly "polluted" in this fashion, yet nobody has done a goddamn thing about it for the last 50+ years.

It may have saved you in this case but that was pure coincidence, and thus you really need to think long hard on that one.

Yes indeed I do, you are absolutely right. And any insight from you or others would be welcome.

For all I know, it may come down to something very instinctive and visceral about needles -- the idea of actually injecting into yourself something derived from a murder. (Although I have long boycotted PepsiCo products because of their use of flavorings tested on taste-bud sensors harvested from aborted babies.)

I did not keep a journal, so I have a hard time reconstructing exactly what was going through my mind in late 2020. I remember the fetal-cell-line aspect most clearly because that decision was so slam-dunk for me.

But I think I also remember being amazed at how over-the-top all the hype for the vaxx was. It was wildly enthusiastic and it was everywhere, non-stop. (Talk about mass formation.) And, here's the key, the vaxx was being hyped by the SAME PEOPLE who were denying, suppressing, trashing, and prohibiting the early treatments that worked against Covid. That was before I knew about ivermectin, but Fauci et al.'s war against hydroxychloroquine, starting in March or April 2020, was the first thing that alerted me that something was rotten. If Covid was so deadly and dangerous, why were they DENYING people access to treatments that actually cure the disease? Obviously, these people could not be trusted, so why should I trust their hype about these "vaccines"?

I also remember watching on YouTube some "expert" with a name I have never forgotten: a Dr. Shane Croddy. He assured viewers that the normal 5 to 10 year process for approving a new vaccine could be shortcutted by enrolling 10 times the usual number of volunteers in trials, and doing all the steps simultaneously so the results would be ready in only 6 months! I couldn't believe my eyes and ears. I remember thinking: "HOW STUPID DO YOU THINK WE ARE?"

This Croddy creep even had this smirky smile on his face -- as if he were really having fun pulling one over on the rubes and just couldn't help himself. (I've since found out there's a term for this smirk -- "duper's delight"-- and we've all seen it on the faces of Bill Gates and Anthony Fauci many times.) I remember looking at this young, full-of-himself, smug, smirking little Croddy jerk in a white coat and thinking to myself, ah, now I know what people mean when they say someone has "a punchable face." I remember it distinctly because it was the first time I had ever actually thought that about someone.

Heartlander 2k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2022-11-01 17:28:38

And I just read somewhere that theyre developing a version of the jab that doesnt use these cell lines.

For what it's worth, some people's religious objection to the vaxx was that it messes with the genetic machinery that God gave you. As a matter of fact, we do know now -- research has proven this -- that the mRNA can indeed get incorporated into your own DNA. Think about that. And this w
means it not only messes with YOUR genes, but potentially with that of amy future progeny you may have. As far as I'm concerned, this is satanic.

But really, I agree with what Karl has said many times: Exemptions are an accommodation to evil. You are sovereign over your own body, and you do not owe anyone an explanation for your personal bodily decisions. Much less should you have to beg, like a serf or a slave, for some authority figure's approval of your own decisions over your own body.

Such requirements are un-American and anti-human and should be resisted.
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