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Dnomsed 435 posts, incept 2021-05-18
2022-01-12 09:37:15

My guess is that they experimented with a test release into the bat caves in Yunan province in August 2019. It got away from them, and rushed through Laos in the first week of September. Thai intelligence reported the outbreak to the US.
Redjack 1k posts, incept 2018-01-29
2022-01-12 09:41:27

USGS National Wildlife Health Center makes sense.

The Vet lab in Ames, Iowa has some level 4 TEOTWASKT stuff they research for "animal health."

It is a cover, since things like antrax, SARS, Marburg also come into the animal population. And since people see "Vet" they think of taking care of Fluffy.

After sober reflection last night, I repeat my earlier thought. If I was say, Russia this is a declaration of war. If this is true, I would start with demanding US officials be dragged to the Hauge to be tried on crimes against humanity.


The doubling down, the demand for vaxxes, the over reaction is just a massive CYA by the blazing madmen who while trying to make a bug that stopped SARS, gave it to the world human population.

A tell will be if highly placed NIH officials start suck starting 12 gauges.
Jwm_in_sb 6k posts, incept 2009-04-16
2022-01-12 09:42:01

Good point LaVallle...wonder if that's a setup for pivot against would benefit dod in a number of respects
Traelin0 540 posts, incept 2021-01-28
2022-01-12 09:42:18

Lizardqueen wrote..
Maybe someone can dig the Hope Diamond out of the ashes, I used to visit that rock every time I was there.

Mt. Vernon would certainly suffer from the fallout. The history there is so intertwined with my heritage, especially the key to the Bastille that the Marquis gave GEN Washington, that I'd HOPE we'd dig that out of the rubble before the Hope Diamond.
Redjack 1k posts, incept 2018-01-29
2022-01-12 10:03:27


In October of 2019, a former classmate reached out to me seeing if a rental property my family used to have in the rural midwest was available. He is in Cali, but wanted to have his wife and kids someplace safe.

He said "There is something happening in China, and it would be a good idea to stock somethings ahead. Also, prepare to isolate for two months."

He works in epidemiology, and while I don't know what exactly he does anymore, he was working with tracking new bugs, and old bugs that emerge.

I sent him the Veritas document. No response. Which isn't surprising since he is very busy and while he has been emailing more lately, there are times he goes off for months without anything
. I am starting to seriously wonder how far this goes.

Oh, and the last time we talked regularly prior to covid was over the Marburg outbreak in the mid 2000's. He was looking for ideas on good sanitation chemicals.

Starrynight 174 posts, incept 2021-11-26
2022-01-12 10:04:01

I hope this is a tipping point. I am so tired of all the c-19 madnes. I dont like that my government has enacted policies designed to hurt me. The government is discriminating against the unvaxxed with the expressed intention of making life difficult for us and excluding us from public life. This violates human rights. The state has broken the social contract. How can they earn back my trust and loyalty? I cannot trust the government it is actively trying to lower my quality of life, to coerce me to get an experimental medical treatment that I dont want. This violates medical ethics. I also cant trust the medical profession. When I had covid last month, we consulted our family doctor and she offered no therapies or treatments to help me while I was sick. After 2 years of a pandemic, his doctor can offer no help? If I want to go to the local cafe and get a cup of tea, I cant sit in the cafe because Im unvaxxed. This is medical tyranny and admittedly a relatively mild version, compared to some places like Italy, Australia, and Canada. Nevertheless, the line has been crossed, the principles have been violated, the norms have been broken: the government has overstepped its authority and using its power to harm its own citizens. I am really angry about this.
Emdeplam 2k posts, incept 2008-01-10
2022-01-12 10:04:17

News seriously ONLY showed up here on Veritas. Literally if it were not for the forum this didnt happen in my world. I expect most of the country had ther same experience.
Lavalle 147 posts, incept 2021-10-22
2022-01-12 10:04:23

Oh, Karl I absolutely agree with you on all those institutions and that we deserve it!

I was just pointing out that China also has its part.

We as a nation have to clean our house first. Those very same institutions, once people started figuring out they were involved, started doubling down with non-sensical jabs, policies, KNOWING full well that they dont work.

Skybluepink 854 posts, incept 2007-10-20
2022-01-12 10:04:37

This kind of puts Trump's harping about the CHYNA CHYNA CHYNA virus in a different light. I wonder if he knew...
Brewmaster 74 posts, incept 2008-09-08
2022-01-12 10:14:15

Not sure why this is new. All of this and much much more was in this book released last summer. Not a small book. About a quarter of the book is footnotes, approx 1200! Nothing to see here.
Covid-19 and the global predators: We are the prey.
Purplefang 713 posts, incept 2010-03-28
2022-01-12 10:14:26

I didn't have time to read the whole document. It looks another layer of the onion is peeled off. I see a big bus coming this way. I think they are figuring out who to threw under the bus to pacify the angry hordes.
Tickerguy 192k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2022-01-12 10:14:00

@Lavalle - Yep. This was wildly grossly negligent conduct and while the government typically does not give a fuck private educational institutions are not protected in any way from their involvement in it. Duke and UNC should be destroyed for this, as an appetizer. So should any institution that knew about it and said nothing, which almost-certainly includes EVERY epidemiological research and public health organ. I'll bet every one of them knew goddamned well what occurred and knew it months before February of 2020.

@Skybluepink - He knew. I'm certain of it and he should go to the gallows for it. The President has access to anything he wants access to; there is no such thing as a classified document he cannot see. He is the only person in the government with the capacity to overrule all access restrictions on a blanket basis and he can confer that access to others whether the "security apparatus" likes it or not. The Presidency has only a handful of unfettered powers and this is one of them. Shitting-pants might not have known originally and by the time he was inaugurated he may well have lost enough of his faculties that he didn't know to ASK, but he certainly has the same access here and now and has had for the last year.

There are also a decent number of Senators (in particular) and a few Reps who had access to this information as well. Everyone will try to claim otherwise, of course, but they're lying. How many of the understood the implications is an open question. Among the Senators it would be expected, among Reps not so much. You'd be shocked at how stupid Reps can be, but when it comes to Senators -- not so much.

Once you look at what is in that proposal to DARPA and its rejection, then funding by Fauci, you understand the scope and crazy that went through everything in the US when it comes to public health organs. They all knew goddamned well what happened and why, and their research departments, which is how they all get paid, would be destroyed if it came out. Burying that in the story of a "natural" evolution was thus necessary. This is a global group of people and reaches every single western nation. They all knew -- every one of them. So did China, of course, since they were in the middle of it, and they have the same problem -- their people might well rise up and sack the fucking place.

Who likely ISN'T involved? Russia, believe it or not. But you can bet Putin knew within days of it starting what happened and who was responsible.

Were I Putin I'd fuck everyone involved straight up the ass -- and he just might.

The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.

Ewtnewbie2 242 posts, incept 2021-09-13
2022-01-12 10:34:48

I know. My wife just came down with the 'Vid on Monday after rooming with a sick woman over a ski weekend. As soon as she got home on Monday, we hit her with Vitamin I and the rest of the FLCCC treatment protocols that we had stocked for just such an emergency. I had this bug last year over Christmas. She is doing better, but our ZOOM call with the "M.D." from Mayo yesterday was just as you described: 2 years and nothing. We suggest you get an oximeter and if you get below 93%, head to the ER. At least he prescribed an Albuterol inhaler--we didn't have an inhaler in our Covid kit, so now we do. But, of course, it was $44, not covered by Medicare. She specifically asked about Ivermectin. The canned response was that "it doesn't work." The study had to be retracted for cutting and pasting data in order to make it look good. Wife's response was, "There has to be more than ONE study on Ivermectin." He said, NOPE. It doesn't work.

So my dental assistant and her husband got the Covid, they took IVM and are doing well now. Wife took IVM (plus quercetin, zinc, Vit C and D) and she is turning the corner today (headache was killer yesterday during the Zoom call and not there this AM).

My natural immunity is going to get tested and I am happy to be the guinea pig. I've posted here before I would volunteer to get "inoculated" by a sick covid patient to test my natural immunity to see if it was sterilizing. Well, by George, we are going to find out if I get the Covid again, if I pass it along to others, or ---wait for it---NOT! I'm betting on the latter, but we'll know by early next week!

My wife took an antibody test a few months back, hoping to have been exposed and had a silent version before the holiday rush began. No luck. Mayo's PCR test says she has now we'll confirm with an antibody test again in a few weeks mid- to late-February to make sure. She got her wish. Now she'll have natural immunity as well. Two unvaxxed deplorables are going to make it and have natural immunity to this crap. Too bad so sad for TPTB and Fauci/Biden. #FJB
Evergreen 258 posts, incept 2021-12-26
2022-01-12 10:35:49

The dog that didn't bark.

SARS-CoV researcher pushes out a proposal that describes to a T the virus, the spike, the effects thereof, warns that such research and inoculation of the bat population is necessary due to possibility of evolutionary leap from bat to human.

Lo and behold, SARS-CoV makes its subsequent entry into the human population in a grand way.

Where is the SARS-CoV researcher and his cohort? They should have been on the stage with Trump instead of Fauci and Birx. They should have been front and center banging the table saying that they were RIGHT!


That silence tells all.
Nashville 138 posts, incept 2018-02-27
2022-01-12 10:36:06

RUSSIA - that's what I have been wondering lately. I understand China attempting to squelch all info, but what is the incentive for Russia NOT to put out all the incriminating information they surely have which would cause the USA government to appear (correctly) to be a clear and present danger to the rest of the world? What are they waiting for?
Abelardlindsey 1k posts, incept 2021-03-26
2022-01-12 10:36:19

The Chinese are back to locking down cities again. There is some discussion on the 'net that there is an outbreak of a new virus, a hemorrhagic fever one, that is spreading around China. I'm wondering if, instead, its Omicron causing ADE effects on the Chinese population who got the Sinovac vaccine.

Its all in the mitochondria
Lavalle 147 posts, incept 2021-10-22
2022-01-12 10:36:23

Re: Putin
Its starting.
Davidggg 9 posts, incept 2021-10-04
2022-01-12 10:36:31

This may be too good to be true TG. I tend to trust field grade guys, but we have clowns like "LTC" Vindman that give me pause... Fucking horrible.
Lemonaid 16k posts, incept 2008-01-20
2022-01-12 10:38:44

Russia will not raise a fuss because of their southern neighbor.

"There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of
Tickerguy 192k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2022-01-12 10:40:17

I wouldn't take that bet. They know damned well that said neighbor is resource poor but human wealthy and that doesn't get better over time.

The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Abelardlindsey 1k posts, incept 2021-03-26
2022-01-12 10:47:12


Blue areas yes. Red areas no. I just looked a Brookline on Google maps and realized that I actually visited the place like 20 years ago. Its a gentrified near suburb of Boston where all of the fashionably liberal types live. Of course they would do the passport thing.

I do not expect the vax passport thing outside of tony liberal-left places.

Its all in the mitochondria

Reason: typo
Thegreatunwashed 274 posts, incept 2021-09-13
2022-01-12 10:47:24

The President has access to anything he wants access to; there is no such thing as a classified document he cannot see. He is the only person in the government with the capacity to overrule all access restrictions on a blanket basis and he can confer that access to others whether the "security apparatus" likes it or not.

The UFO people always insist this is not the case and that there are levels of classification the President does not have access to. I doubt that they are technically correct about this, but I have no doubt that plenty is hid from them, especially Trump and the current, in-lieu president.

I will have NO survivor's guilt, except a bit of shame for all my Schadenfreude.
Punch_rockgroin 3k posts, incept 2008-12-31
2022-01-12 10:59:10

The thing that bugs me about Russia being "in the know" is that Putin could have done immense damage to the US government by going all in on ivermectin and HCQ. As far as I know, he did not.

I want to see teeth flying as someone is beaten with a cast iron dildo hidden in a sock. 448 posts, incept 2021-12-17
2022-01-12 11:11:51

Lemonaid wrote..
Russia will not raise a fuss because of their southern neighbor.

Tickerguy wrote..
I wouldn't take that bet. They know damned well that said neighbor is resource poor but human wealthy and that doesn't get better over time.

Bust that dam while it's full, and that changes rather quickly.
Winston2020 460 posts, incept 2020-03-29
2022-01-12 11:12:02

Even without this new info, the facts revealed in this largely ignored hearing made a Wuhan lab origin a slam dunk certainty as far as I was concerned way back in June.

At the link, click on Points of Interest Quay Statement to get to the best point to start in the testimony:

JUNE 29, 2021
House Republicans Examine COVID-19 Origins

House Republicans on the Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis heard from scientists regarding the origins of COVID-19 during a forum on Capitol Hill. One of the scientists was Dr. Brett Giroir, who served under President Trump as the assistant Health and Human Services secretary for health. He also led the administrations COVID-19 testing efforts. Dr. Giroir and the other experts spoke about the need for government transparency and a full investigation into the Wuhan lab leak theory. Several Republican lawmakers, not on the special subcommittee, also voiced support for such a review.
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