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 Uh, That's Not A Conspiracy Theory
Metalqueen 163 posts, incept 2021-09-10
2021-11-02 14:22:03

Wow, this is insane. Thanks for the hard work in putting this together. Anyone who sees this needs to double their resolve against the "mandates" which are the equivalent of a mandate to play Russian Roulette.

So you children of the world
Listen to what I say
If you want a better place to live in
Spread the word today
Show the world that love is still alive
You must be brave
Or you children of today are
Children of the Grave - Black Sabbath
Mightymosin 184 posts, incept 2020-04-01
2021-11-02 14:22:03

I realize that by the time these are put into VAERS that the lots are probably already done and distributed and that when people were rushing to get their shots that these lots would disappear much faster.

I wonder if there is any correlation to how long a lot has sat from production to when the last jab was given and if there is a similar spread of time between first and last jab of a lot.

Are these hot lots being delivered at local popup events or other places that might not have the level of refrigeration that should be maintained... It just seems like there are so many variables for a brand new technology that tracking it down would be a herculean task.

Being new you would almost expect that all that info should be tracked but who the hell really wants to put out that $. Not the manufacturers, to be sure.

Were never going to learn how safe the vaccine is unless we start giving it, and thats just the way it goes.
Dr. Eric Rubin, Harvard University
Conventional_wiz 40 posts, incept 2021-07-19
2021-11-02 14:22:03

Another stupid question:
Is the reported lot number in VAERS simply assumed to be the most recent jab administered to the patient?

mRNA jabs are two-dose but it looks like VAERS doesnt consistently track the lots for both doses

am I understanding that correctly? I supposed wed still assume most are dose 2 given other info about heightened AE risk of the 2nd dose
Lavalle 139 posts, incept 2021-10-22
2021-11-02 14:22:03

I pulled some expiration dates data from MRNA website (pasted after Karl's table):

039K20A | 87 You Entered: 039K20A Expiration Date: Jun 20, 2021
013L20A | 66 You Entered: 013L20A Expiration Date: Jul 08, 2021
012L20A | 64 You Entered: 012L20A Expiration Date: Jul 06, 2021
010M20A | 62 You Entered: 010M20A Expiration Date: Jul 19, 2021
037K20A | 49 You Entered: 037K20A Expiration Date: Jun 22, 2021
029L20A | 48 You Entered: 029L20A Expiration Date: Jul 13, 2021
012M20A | 46 You Entered: 012M20A Expiration Date: Jul 20, 2021
024M20A | 44 You Entered: 024M20A Expiration Date: Aug 03, 2021
027L20A | 44 You Entered: 027L20A Expiration Date: Jun 30, 2021
015M20A | 43 You Entered: 015M20A Expiration Date: Jul 29, 2021
025L20A | 42 You Entered: 025L20A Expiration Date: Jun 25, 2021
026A21A | 41 You Entered: 026A21A Expiration Date: Aug 26, 2021
013M20A | 41 You Entered: 013M20A Expiration Date: Jul 31, 2021
016M20A | 41 You Entered: 016M20A Expiration Date: May 02, 2021
022M20A | 41 You Entered: 022M20A Expiration Date: Aug 08, 2021
030L20A | 40 You Entered: 030L20A Expiration Date: Jul 16, 2021
026L20A | 39 You Entered: 026L20A Expiration Date: Jun 28, 2021
007M20A | 39 You Entered: 007M20A Expiration Date: Jul 14, 2021
013A21A | 36 You Entered: 013A21A Expiration Date: Aug 20, 2021
011A21A | 36 You Entered: 011A21A Expiration Date: Aug 16, 2021

All of the top 20 worst AE Moderna's lots are expired and all within Jun-July-Aug 2021.

Now I am not sure when they produced them, but I found this:
"Modernas COVID-19 vaccine could be stable at refrigerator temperatures for two months longer than initially authorized, the company announced Thursday.

The jab is approved for up to 1 month of storage at refrigerator temperatures (2 degrees Celsius to 8 degrees Celsius), though a longer shelf life could ease logistics in smaller clinical settings if authorized, Moderna said in a statement posted Thursday"

So I speculate that all these lots were produced within 3mo, probably in 2021.
Heiwa 88 posts, incept 2008-10-10
2021-11-02 14:22:03

Before this shot there were zero lipid products that were approved for widespread use by the FDA because of so many adverse reactions. Everyone seems to focus on the spike protein, but those lipids were a real hindrance for mRNA drugs.

These lipid companies have been hitting a brick wall. I heard some execs from a lipid manufacturer say that after this, there will be at least three lipids that will get FDA approval. I find that fascinating and disturbing. They are salivating over the new drugs that will come from this - this is their new gold mine.

This was too good an opportunity not to do massive component testing on the population. This may very well be why there were "secret ingredients" in the shots. They literally couldn't tell you what the secret ingredient was because it depends on which lot you got.

What this tells me is that there was great planning aforethought.

By the way, whatever happened to the "must be kept at a gazillion negative degrees up to half an hour before administering?" I guess that wasn't so necessary after all. I wonder why.
Gavilan 352 posts, incept 2014-01-01
2021-11-02 14:22:03

Karl, Thank you for doing the research that the rest of us have no clue (or time) how to do.

Fuck the Forest Service.
Oh and FJB too.
Wtfishappening 116 posts, incept 2021-10-15
2021-11-02 14:22:03

Terrifying data...but I hesitate to state that imo this is not about curing or preventing a viral infection. This is, was, and always will be solely about population control...both in the sense of reducing the number of live souls as well as eliminating free will and choice.

The negative in me believes I will either be taken out forcibly...murdered...for my determination to refuse the liars in Washington, or marched to an internment camp...where I will disappear.

Fuck you...I will go out on my own terms! Thank you very much

Your never ending spree of death and violence and hate
Is gonna tie your own rope
Susanlauren 1k posts, incept 2021-05-01
2021-11-02 14:22:03

If I were a betting person, I would lay odds that the manufacturers of these death jabbs are well aware of the "hot lot" issues. Perhaps no one expected someone to run the numbers in the way that Karl has done. The people who have taken the vaxx are the experiment. Very sobering. I can't imagine the booster injections will do anything except add to the problem. This will not end well.
Bzelbob 300 posts, incept 2021-09-12
2021-11-02 14:22:03

just that my expectation was that a given lot would be spread over a relatively small geographic area

I think that one thing we have to consider is that when the manufacturer has a given "lot" ready, they were/are typically distributed to multiple states
at once in the interest of fairness or whatever all over the country. Remember when states were fighting for their vaccine "allotments"?

Maybe one of the others w/ experience in this area can confirm this(?)

"Threats are illogical. And payment is usually expensive." - Sarek of Vulcan
Joancrawford 354 posts, incept 2013-10-14
2021-11-02 14:22:03

She was on "team vax" so I didn't even try to reason with her that it might make sense to report it anyway.-Londoncat

I'm sorry to say I have officially given up. Anything you or I say to dissuade the "team vax" goes to deaf ears. I'm not wasting any more of my breath. Go ahead and vax your f*cking kids. I honestly don't give a damn anymore.

Met up with a young guy I used to work with at the gym. Six months ago he was bitching about getting the vax because he didn't want to wear a face diaper anymore. Well, lo and behold a few months later, BLAMO! Face diapers are back in fashion and MANDATORY. He has a wife and an infant daughter. Last week I saw him again. I removed my mask to greet him. He muttered something I couldn't understand so I said, "Sorry, I didn't hear you!" He kept his mask on and said, "I've received a raise, a promotion, and our boss gave us all a one thousand dollar bonus!"

After reading TG's article a few days ago about how employers were given back all of the employee withholding money back by .gov, I said, "Well that was awfully nice of him, giving you back some of what he stole from you to begin with!" and mentioned the details from the aforementioned article.

Well, I guess I kinda pissed in his cornflakes because he either didn't comprehend or didn't want to comprehend. I walked away realizing that he had willingly drunk the kool aid and was not in the mood to hear anyone who was not supremely happy for him, the country, hell, the whole g-d damned WORLD.

I'm afraid I've become a bit of a misanthrope during my later years. I no longer have the time or patience, or countenance to put up with the willfully stupid and ignorant. Hats off to T.G. for all the heavy lifting.

Don't f*ck with me fellas! This ain't my first time at the rodeo.

America-it was a good run while it lasted. RIP!
Mightymosin 184 posts, incept 2020-04-01
2021-11-02 14:22:03

Does VAERS have a field for who/organization reporting?

Are the hot lots and their reporting concentrated on particular organizations or doctors? I would guess not as you said there seems to be some large geographic distributions but I wonder how much may be concentrated by consistent reporters.

Were never going to learn how safe the vaccine is unless we start giving it, and thats just the way it goes.
Dr. Eric Rubin, Harvard University
Robackrman 313 posts, incept 2021-04-07
2021-11-02 14:22:03

My double-vaxxed and boosted mother (who has plenty of "vaccine" advice for others) has been subjected to "misinformation" in her favorite news source:
Jackamok 144 posts, incept 2021-09-03
2021-11-02 14:22:03

Yep -- the most-damning element is that the Janssen product has the same issue.[/]

Agreed. Prior to reading this analysis, my working assumption was manufacturing QC issues meant variable amounts of the vaxx per dose like the problems with the old whole-cell Pertussis vaxx - some being loaded hot-clot-shots and some being watered down "accidental placebos." But that's a lot less likely if two different manufacturing techniques have the same AE curve.

That heavily implies the problem is in the RNA behavior, which is where Pfizer, Moderna and Jansen all converge. And yet is still somehow tied to what is in each dose. Either there's an accelerant/retardant contaminating some lots, or they're not as good at consistently replicating the RNA payload as they think.

That's a question - Jansen uses a different technique to get the RNA into the victim's cells, but do they use the same technique as Pfizer and Moderna to create the RNA payload in the first place?

Msnlgrinder 174 posts, incept 2013-02-05
2021-11-02 14:22:03

I can tell you why they don't allow you to look up by lot number the way Gen has generously laid out here.

Because now I can go and look at the poison they gave me and ponder how many people died taking the same stuff given to me. It adds a level of anger that obscurity would otherwise shield.

Had they been honest, you know how this would have gone

"Before we give you this totally experimental procedure that we will not guarantee even has a benefit, thought we'd tell you that AT LEAST 5 known people have died taking this treatment. Would you like us to continue?"

"Five out of what? 200 million?"

"Um, no. A few thousand."

"Oh, in that case, No, but before I go my name is Jeremy the Grinder. What's your name for no reason at all? Thanks!"
Fdprefect 95 posts, incept 2021-03-24
2021-11-02 14:22:03

Puntastic wrote..
There are some things you can't 'vaccinate' your way out of.
But of course, this doesn't stop the vaxfascists from pointing out in any discussion about multiple boosters that flu shots are rolled out every year.

I even read one tweet today where the author said the flu shots are just boosters for the 1918 Spanish flu smiley.

Of course, everyone but the weak-minded should know by now that the annual flu shots are a crapshoot (pun intended) at best and a con job at worst. The most annoying thing about the stooges and apologists for the mRNA vax is that they claim that the mRNA tech is just like all previous vaccines.

Not only is this patently untrue but they fail to even realize that there is a wide range of effectiveness of the current inventory of available vaccines on the market. Everything from highly effective polio vaccines to the current completely ineffective coronavirus "vaccine" - and lots in between these two extremes.

It's a tough galaxy. If you want to survive, you've gotta know where your towel is.
Scottj175 561 posts, incept 2010-09-06
2021-11-02 14:22:03

Which honestly we've known for ages. Have we found ANY vaccine to work against the common cold (another coronavirus)? No.

There are some things you can't 'vaccinate' your way out of. You must let nature take its course and only endemic with NATURAL herd immunity will make it better.

Oh if only there was some treatment that would mitigate the bad outcomes and aid in achieving said herd immunity? Too bad we have no evidence to indicate that. Yeeeah, right.
Thombradley 208 posts, incept 2021-11-01
2021-11-02 14:22:03

I havent read through all the responses and I am sure some will echo the following that this might explain why some had severe reactions and some had zero reactions cavalierly explained away that their immune system was too weak to respond. Maybe they got zero or diluted active ingredient? What a sh&t show. Glad I told my multiple doctors (battling cancer) to stick the gene therapy up their ass.
Eternalblue 5k posts, incept 2007-08-09
2021-11-02 14:22:03

This much variance in the adverse events of all the vaccines should invalidate both the safety and efficacy results from all the EUA studies. This also shows why the fully FDA licensed product is still not available and why Pfizer wants to continue the EUA product while seeking indemnity per Dr Malone.

In a uncorrupted world, Congress would start a commission to determine the amount of malfeasance in these programs and if the prior immunity waivers covers such behavior. If the immunity waivers only cover negligence and not criminal conspiracy these vaccine companies should be broken up.
Lizardqueen 4k posts, incept 2008-04-01
2021-11-02 14:34:09

I was just looking at the photo I have of my Mom's vax card (2 Pfizers in June).
The first lot number is not on the list (EH something), the 2nd Lot number (EP something) is.

Something I am now wondering - if the problematic lot numbers are the "later" ones they are more likely to be given during the 2nd shot, and the 2nd shot seems to be where more people have more problems, thus more reported issues.

This doesn't hold for the Janssen of course, being a 1 shot vax, but I do wonder if some of the lot numbers for Moderna and PFizer are bad not purely because the contents were bad but because they were used for the 2nd shot where cumulative damage gets compounded and kills people.

Its all still too much and they need to be recalled but that was something I thought of looking at Moms card. Luckily she hasn't had any issues yet but we are trying steer her away from a booster even though all her friends are getting them.
Peer pressure is why she got the first two shots.

"Pull your pants up, turn your hat around, and get a job"
---P.J. O'Rourke
Mikpaq 669 posts, incept 2009-02-26
2021-11-02 14:34:54

@Tickerguy is 100% accurate in saying this is NOT INDIVIDUAL SPECIFIC.

Not when all 3 manufacturers have the same issue (identical curves) and no way the most at risk of developing complications would coalesce around specific lots over 2 shots (highly unlikely they would be the same lot#) in the majority of cases.

Has to be a variability in quality of the ingredient(s), and likely a crucial one.

Suppliers can have a hard time providing "IDENTICAL" sources of materials. However, if you know what the ingredient is, you should be testing for it.

This ingredient could fluctuate in quality, which could be causing the issue. Likely an ingredient each manufacturer relies on (has to use).

Remember, pillage first, then burn.

Mightymosin 184 posts, incept 2020-04-01
2021-11-02 14:38:56

The odds of the people at highest risk concentrating across a few lots when the sample size is 100 million+ people is flat-out ridiculously improbable -- on the order of the Earth being wiped out by an asteroid tomorrow at Noon.

So you're saying there's a chance...smiley

Were never going to learn how safe the vaccine is unless we start giving it, and thats just the way it goes.
Dr. Eric Rubin, Harvard University
Fdprefect 95 posts, incept 2021-03-24
2021-11-02 14:45:48

Mightymosin wrote..
there are so many variables for a brand new technology that tracking it down would be a herculean task.
Drugs have to go through a 3 phase, sequential process to even get to the authorization stage much less full approval (side note, notice how the legacy media is calling all these new Covid treatments "approved" rather than "authorized"?).

The 3 phases end up costing hundreds of millions of dollars in R&D and testing. Huge risks are taken in order to get approval. As I mentioned earlier, I'm on an amazing, though somewhat boutique BTK inhibitor that I know cost multi-millions to bring to market. The cost of the med is about $450 per day. Fortunately Cigna pays for a fair portion of that. But that med went through years of trials before it was brought to market. It was tested, retested, and even today, there are new variations of BTK inhibitors that will likely replace the one I'm on.

So the drug companies can, and do test their products over years despite the fact that maybe it would be better if it didn't take so long. After all, millions of people die every year for lack of a treatment that might be in the testing pipeline. But the FDA doesn't generally allow this. Or at least it hasn't up until last year when they were clearly bribed to authorize the mRNA tech.

Yes, they do approve dangerous drugs and yes, they do pull them off the market when the risk/benefit ratio goes upside down. I honestly don't expect either the FDA nor the drug companies to bat 1000. My problem with the FDA now is that they are clearly bought and paid for, and thus, they have lost all usefulness.

The FDA, like the FBI, should be burned to the ground by the next Republican president and start over with a new model. I can think of one potential GOP candidate that would do that. I can also think of a popular potential GOP candidate that wouldn't lift a finger to do that - thread for another day.

It's a tough galaxy. If you want to survive, you've gotta know where your towel is.
Ktrosper 5k posts, incept 2010-04-06
2021-11-02 15:03:58

Lavalle wrote..
All of the top 20 worst AE Moderna's lots are expired and all within Jun-July-Aug 2021.

Nice work up there Lavalle.

Now do the bottom 20.
Wondering if they are all still in use (still to see the AE's blow up..) and being jabbed into arms...

The unexamined life is not worth living.-Socrates
The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law.-Aristotle
Liberty exists now in the spaces government has not yet chosen
Dd 554 posts, incept 2007-12-08
2021-11-02 15:04:13

Msnlgrinder wrote..
I can tell you why they don't allow you to look up by lot number the way Gen has generously laid out here.

Because now I can go and look at the poison they gave me and ponder how many people died taking the same stuff given to me. It adds a level of anger that obscurity would otherwise shield.

A common complaint in interviews with medical professionals was the difficulty in obtaining the manufacturer, dates, and lot numbers to make the VAERS report for a patient.

Required for reporting, and then obscured.
Stalag13 64 posts, incept 2020-04-03
2021-11-02 15:04:25

More than 2,400 dead Moderna customers and 2,800 Pfizer so far .. 5,200 reported, so how many actually died? 15K, 25K, 52K ... and this is just 2 jab brews, and only in US States & Territories. Vioxx killed less than 30K so they say and it took 5 years.

VARES is as reliable and useful as the integrity of input. Who knows the actual under reporting. When I was trying to model N rates from reported cases, one issue became false positives from PCR. Even Fauci (July 2020) said "the PCR COVID test is useless and misleading when the test is run at 35 cycles or higher. A positive result, indicating infection, cannot be accepted or believed." and yet the the FDA recommended up to 40 cycles. Lots of people claim the false positive is not significant while others say reliability is 3% over 35 cycles.

When you reduce Covid infection rates by discounting the useless & misleading counts, and increase jab related death by some factor of under reporting, you realize this is 1 in 200 years kind of stupid. If they stopped it right now, in 20 years the history propaganda might even say that the jabs were never FDA approved. Instead they are talking about jabbing infants.
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