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44dave
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Karl - Any way to see if that applies to the boosters as well? I have family that took the clot shots, that don't seem to be suffering any long-term ill effects, who are now beginning the boosters.

Thanks.
Lavalle
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Fantastic work Karl!

Since it has been proven that the CDC/FDA/MRNA/PFE has been lying before, I believe this is more data obfuscations and manipulations from the same.

At this point we should assume VAERS data is not reliable any more, but this is the only thing we have to analyze AEs.

One other thing I want to point out: while the number of shoots administered has been tapering off for some time, the number of weekly deaths ADDED to VAERS has been running a constant ~300-500 which could be caused by manpower shortage when entering and approving entries into the DB or some "statistical manipulation".

I would have expected that the numbers of AEs to correlate with the numbers of jabs administered but this is not the case.

I know, I know this is analyzing per lots AEs but my point is: if data is being manipulated by these commies to show safe and effective, we cannot get a clear picture from statistical correlations.

BTW I am not trying to discount some of the good hypothesis above but sometime the simplest explanation end up being the truth.
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@44dave - If you have lot numbers I can query them for whether they're in the "hot" group. As for being able to discern between first/second/booster, not easily. I could stratify for that IF there are multiple jabs reported for a given AE, but in many cases it appears they are not.

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I defined "incompetence" in that same paragraph. Any drug company that rolls out an untested product is a sign of incompetence. Or, if you prefer, negligence.

If the issue is that Big Pharma is testing dosing on the public, that is just idiotic - because eventually the truth will out. Negligent homicide that is successfully covered up is a sign of competence - evil though it may be. Negligent homicide that can be uncovered by people like Karl, is a sign of incompetence.

It's stupid to test on the general public. It's stupid to do so without covering your tracks. It's stupid to think there will not be repercussions for these actions.


I believe what Karl is saying, and I agree with him, is that there is no way to predict in advance how any given person will react to the kind of biologic (the covid-19 "vaccines" are) thus making good QC impossible. The rest is all just obfuscation and CYA, while trying to milk as much money out of it as possible.

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Edwardteach wrote..
The fact that it's observable across multiple manufacturers indicated that it's more than a manufacturing ****up. It's a problem with the premise itself, which cannot be corrected.
It could be a problem with the premise (delivery of spike protein using messenger RNA) but if that were the case, wouldn't this be seen across a larger number of lots?

Couldn't it just as easily be chalked up to the fact that:

A.) The drug companies don't know what dose to use so they delivered some with extremely high doses (that kill), medium level doses (that injure but don't immediately kill), and some that do nothing thus providing no or limited protection.

B.) The process involved with manufacturing this therapeutic is fragile with narrow tolerances. And if there isn't a way (or desire) to keep the process within that tolerance, then we might see wildly different results once in the arms of the public.

Now, I'm not saying the basic premise underlying the vax is not flawed as well, just on the observation that they don't work as an inoculation against disease. So we have two issues. One about effectiveness and one regarding safety. The safety issue can be further categorized to things like adverse reactions - both short and long term, OAS and ADE, and so on.

At this point anyone who claims the vax is "safe and effective" is either played or paid.

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Abelardlindsey:
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I'm seeing in the MSM that the Biden administration is going to release the OSHA ETS in "the coming days". I know that the lawsuits are prepped to go up against this if it actually happens.

I suspect they were waiting for Election Day to pass first.
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More proof that the bottom line is everyone that takes the **** is a human lab rat. They knew there would be no way to know how any individual would react and how much spike protein each individual would produce in the body. Add to that variables like different batches with varying amounts of the active ingredients, how the jabs were administered, and so on. There are so may variables, it's hard to get your mind around it all. Everything is being done on a seat of the pants decision, and "see what happens" attitude. This flies in the face of all international laws and norms, and with wholly unconstitutional edicts. Every one of these monsters and maniacs deserve the worst that can be administered via public execution broadcast on TV every day one after the other as a warning to any other NAZI's not to try this **** ever again. Every day it just gets more insane, and yet the maniacs just double down and move the goal posts again. Son of a bitch.
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Yeah, it's the NYT, but this provides some insight into the manufacturing, testing, and stages of bringing the Pfizer vaccine to market:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021....

They include some info about number of vials/doses per run.

"Pfizer currently operates on a 60-day timeline from start to finish, and more than half of that time is dedicated to testing."
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I'm thinking that in some thread here at TF. a poster linked to a site that showed a curve of excess deaths from CDC that weren't attributed to VAERS but the excess death curve followed the vaccination rollout curve.

I did no due diligence in confirming the curves but found it interesting.

If the curves at the link were correct it would show a confirmation of what most here believe.

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Fdp wrote..
Any drug company that rolls out an untested product is a sign of incompetence. Or, if you prefer, negligence.

It's a sign of and a guaranteed outcome of immunity/warp-speed/EUA.

TG wrote..
This sort of vectored process, using the body to produce the thing that is the antigen, is medically unsound and cannot be done safely if the thing produced is pathogenic because you cannot exert sufficient manufacturing control to prevent this sort of outcome.

Pure hubris.

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Excellent work. Regarding

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Was gonna make the same comment as Bluto, in that we know Japan found contamination (stainless steel particulate from manufacturing process if memory serves.)


we know that zinc somehow is critical in protecting us from Covid infection. Spitball theory is that another mineral/compound could enhance the activity of the Spike protein, or alternately bind to the zinc and prevent it form working. Though what Kraminari posted about QC issues from the German biologist makes a lot of sense.

DNA and RNA are replication techniques. A human egg weighs less than 0.005 milligrams and using those replication mechanisms can grow to a 200+ lb adult. Clearly there is a lot of "leverage" available. Karl's assessment this is a dangerous technique is right.
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@Abelardlindsey

My wife's company just extended the jab mandate to include everyone. Before this was only for office workers now it includes everyone in the field. The deadline is March or be fired. They have been in lock step with Biden and their mandate releases have come a few days before his press conferences. So I think the OSHA regs are coming very soon.
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@imhotep Thanks for posting that link. Amazing how the media is creating a blackout over this hearing.
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@TG

I worded that badly. I wasn't meaning to imply bad lots were treated any differently than not-as-bad lots when it came to distribution, just that my expectation was that a given lot would be spread over a relatively small geographic area.
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TG -
My wife's first and second pfizer shot have counts of 27 and 15.
I have the dates and clinic site information to share, if that's of any value.
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I'm sharing on Twitter and getting some response and links clicked. Hopefully this will start to be spread by others that aren't here on Market-Ticker.

I'm Reply Deboosted by Twitter (for quite a while now), but hopefully the original Tweet will gain some traction with whatever everyone else is doing to share this info on malpractice therapies.

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Nedpuddleman said

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The deadline is March or be fired.


Interesting that they're giving that long. I wonder if it has something to do with FDA/CDC approval requirements? Wasn't one of the deadlines March 2022?

Gotta get all those global shots in BEFORE they are forced to yank the product...

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Whoops. Ignore my previous post especially with reference to mRNA. I missed in first reading of Karl's analysis that two plots showed similar behavior with Janssen.
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Yep -- the most-damning element is that the Janssen product has the same issue.

This points to something that cannot be controlled through the technology used to induce the immune response.

That's BAD and is a strong indication that this sort of virus simply CANNOT be successfully vaccinated against.

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Mightymosin
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No matter how you do it there's an uncontrolled (and perhaps uncontrollable) variable in the manufacturing somewhere that leads some percentage of lots to be "hot" and thus ****s anyone who gets them at a radically-enhanced degree of risk.

I'm also assuming that there is no way (or at least quick and cheap) to know whos body may be a more efficient factory that decides to really crank out that spike protein for a quicker trip to assuming room temperature.

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In a lab, you manufacture an experiment in a sterilized Petri dish / Vial, so you have QC.

With these mRNA shots, you manufacture in a "non-sterilized" Petri dish, a human body, which is essentially a mass of chemicals you have zero control of, being everyone's chemistry makeups are different (food - medicine intake / present diseases / etc).

Maybe the above is why there has never been a successful product developed with mRNA technology, and this report exposes this wild uncontrolled manufacturing process that takes place in each human body with these deadly shots.

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@Mightymosin - It does not appear to be an individual risk. That's the shocker in this; I assumed it was, that the variable was individual metabolic response, and since you can't control THAT, you're rolling dice with no controls to help with risk stratification.

The data says otherwise. The odds of the people at highest risk concentrating across a few lots when the sample size is 100 million+ people is flat-out ridiculously improbable -- on the order of the Earth being wiped out by an asteroid tomorrow at Noon.

Remember that nearly everyone on the 2-dose regimes is going to get two DIFFERENT lots, simply because TIME separates them and in a mass-vaccination campaign the first one they get will be depleted in supply and the supply replaced. The odds of that being the same lot are VERY low. This adds even more evidence to the scale that the issue is NOT individual susceptibility in any meaningful way.

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@Tickerguy said

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strong indication that this sort of virus simply CANNOT be successfully vaccinated against.


Which honestly we've known for ages. Have we found ANY vaccine to work against the common cold (another coronavirus)? No.

There are some things you can't 'vaccinate' your way out of. You must let nature take its course and only endemic with NATURAL herd immunity will make it better.

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With "Warp" speed, I am not at all shocked to see sloppy QC lot to lot.

No doubt we will hear from some whistle blower in the future, who was told not to "dump the batch" when it failed QC and just push it out the door or else!
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