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This follows my (limited) experience with biologic formulations.
Using large molecules presents enormous issues in even lab-scale production. All parameters are critical, especially temperature, as most proteins can irreversibly unfold at certain temps, and activity drops like a stone.
This can be accounted for in dose, but batches can have wildly different levels of activity and you don't know till you assay activity.
Assay is another cluster****. Much less robust than small molecule, and chain of custody and storage must be tightly controlled as well.
Thank you TG for distilling this data. The fact you can do it and they don't is quite telling.
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This Ticker is great, but the implications are terrifying.

Thank you for the response to Hilbertspace, that points to the part I was missing. That and whatever else could be a factor.

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Interesting that this is _not_ being hung around Trump's neck, as he continues to boast about his part in rushing this horror to us.

I guess !vax-good is more important than orange-man-bad.
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I think this is the EU's "VAERS". Might be interesting to see how they compare.

https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/human-regul....

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@Uwe - Yes. They changed a number of things in the "kid" shot, which by itself ought to terrify you.

But, from what I determine, that's not going to make a difference since ALL THREE companies have the same problem which implies its not in the delivery or diluents but rather the premise, that one can come up with a manufacturable product that produces a reliable level of something in the human body, where that "something" is pathogenic, is false. While most (90%?) of the time you get either too little or an ok amount 10% of the time you get wildly more than is safe and its not individual response-related -- its LOT RELATED which means YOU DID IT.

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It's pretty clear that the distribution is power-law instead of normal; like Pareto finding out that wealth wasn't normally distributed in Italy, but that 20% of people owned 80% of the land, and that .8% owned 51.2% of it ( keep applying Pareto to the 20/80).

Pareto usually applies in SQL, too, ironically enough: 20% of the rows satisfy 80% of the queries.

As Taleb might term it, it means that the vaxxes reside in Extremistan, not Mediocristan, which is the land of normal distribution.

Any idea why?
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Thank you for your excellent work and diligence. I had hoped when the negative results of these stabs started occurring that at some point there would be a reckoning and correlation to show which lot #'s were causing the most harm or death. I figured this would be obfuscated and not available to the general public.

However, these miserable pieces of **** always telegram or broadcast their true intentions in the open. People just have to be alert enough or cognizant enough to figure out what it all means.

Could this actually mean they were intentionally using the populace to run a large scale drug trial on different dosages or active ingredients without informing anyone?

Does this pierce the liability shield if these malicious actions are proven that some were knowingly given doses that would kill or seriously injure ?

Meanwhile the sheep hurtle onward towards the precipice !

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Yes, as I note in the article.

The best-fit hypothesis is that there is no way to control manufacturing at-scale when the product causes the body to produce a pathogenic thing via a biological process.

All drugs have a toxic dose. You can control direct introduction of a drug sufficiently to prevent toxicity on a random lot-based basis. What you can't do, on the evidence, is sufficiently control that process when the body itself is doing the manufacturing.

If the thing manufactured is benign this might not matter but in the case of a coronavirus it matters greatly since the spike is pathogenic even without the rest of the virus.

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Could it be who got the shot.

Go to a nursing home and give it to sick people or those who had COVID-19. Those getting vaxxed are likely much the same. All healthcare workers, NH patients etc.

No one wants to report to VAERS. Ive had two of my patients hospitalized after boosters in last 2 weeks.

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@Oliver1655 - If it was to be proved this was deliberate and not variation that can't be controlled in manufacturing then yes, that would pierce the liability shield as that would constitute intentional conduct.

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@Cvdoc - No. The deaths are normally distributed across time with a reasonable skew for the "early rush." The distribution by lot number is anything but normal.

The data is that if you get the "wrong" lot you're WILDLY more likely to get ****ed, no matter who you are. AEs in those "hot lots" range all the way down to people in their teens.

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@Tickerguy

Also realized the data you showing also tends to rule out behavioral issues like incorrect shot aspiration during injection...
(might be an issue, but not one that would account for these numbers.)

Bad shots from Bad Lots indeed!

Also since they can't hide *death* as a side effect, doesn't it seem like *eventually* we'll be able to look at total deaths during the period vs. VAERS reported deaths and do some comparison there as well? (Though trying to suss that out may be far more difficult, I admit.)

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Wow. That the batches themself would have that kind of swing was not something I would predict.

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Yep @Moreupp -- and that its not limited to mRNA means that the problem isn't mRNA per-se -- it's attempting to use the body as a protein factory. No matter how you do it there's an uncontrolled (and perhaps uncontrollable) variable in the manufacturing somewhere that leads some percentage of lots to be "hot" and thus ****s anyone who gets them at a radically-enhanced degree of risk.

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My understanding is that if the mfg process and qc is lacking then immunity can be pierced then as well regardless of intent.
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I love you for your analytical brain and ability to discern bull****.

Thank you for pulling this together.

I'm trying to frame what the issue could be.
If it's from a crazy high antibody level in these bad lots, you'd expect those alive without adverse effects might have lower levels of spike protein.

FWIW, all of our vaxxed pts have spike IGG above (and mostly well beyond) threshold. Doesn't matter if it was Moderna, Pfizer or J/J. Only one vaxxed pt does not, that's because pt declined 2nd shot.
So the reverse isn't true in my particular domain.

So as far as across lot numbers and manufacturers, the spike protein antibodies are very present.
Fwiw, my sample size is around 40.
I know correlation doesn't mean causation.

But IF the bad numbers are from excessively high spike proteins, I would assume good lot numbers would occasionally result in lower spike protein.
Not what I see from my small sample size.

I wish we knew what they did, what occurred in these bad lots?
Since they won't look, we are going to have a difficult time finding that out.

I have the lot/manufacturers and about to see if any my peeps received those bad lots.

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Remember the guy on the FDA panel for approval of this shot for kids? "We have to approve it so we can see what the effects are.." or something to that effect?

Do you really think that was the forst time he or others said that?
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Incredible work. Thank you.
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KD wrote..
it's attempting to use the body as a protein factory.

Ah yes, what you called a "Parlor trick" early on...

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Something isn't right. If it were one of the companies it might be a production issue. But for all 3 to show the same profile, something is up. Too bad VAERS is so under reported (maybe intentionally so) that we can't get a full data set. I wonder how many of the "died suddenly" or "after a brief illness" could also be traced back to lot numbers.

One thing is for sure, if you get the jab you are playing Russian Roulette.
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Wow, been trying to wrap my head around this all morning.

Different companies, using different vaccine technologies, being produced in different labs, that are stored differently, and given to people of different ages in different geographical locations by different people - YET have a common inverse power law AE/Death profile by lot number.

Either the answer is so complex it's hard to see or it's so simple to explain but too hard for a rational mind to believe. WTH is going on here??

All vaccinations must be stopped immediately. And they definitely should not be "mandated."

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I wonder if I turn the television on they will be talking about this for the next few weeks?

Actually I don't have a television but you get my point.

I googled around a few of the batch numbers and found that Moderna lot 041L20A
was pulled by Orange County CA. in Jan 2021 due to "allergic reactions". CDC were said to be investigating. That lot had 31 deaths as shown above.
https://www.ocbj.com/news/2021/jan/19/oc....

I dunno, maybe there are folks who really don't want to take this **** but are looking at losing early retirement and pensions and they see that list of lot numbers and maybe they can get away with taking something that isn't in that group of ones that were obviously more dangerous than others.

What a mess. The whole thing needs pausing until we can figure out what the hells going on.



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Great work, that's some very valuable information. If I had a loved one injured or killed, I would be very interested to see the AE's for the offending lot listed by report date. If a significant amount of serious events were reported PRIOR to my loved one being harmed....
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Snow wrote..
Stupid question: is the denominator of the lots numbers all roughly the same?
Nah, good question. Don't think we know. But THEY do.

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@Handyone55,
That's exactly where my mind went...
The experiment is about perfecting the kill shot.
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