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Bobn
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Standsfirm wrote..
Essentially, the reason the guidelines are to go home and do nothing is that they could not find a single thing - from your own ****ing medicine cabinet - to recommend that would not actually help you.


THIS. I've been saying this for a while now (not here, though): it's like a bad joke, because is seems that pretty much *anything*, used early, will cure this crud. Except Remdesivir - that **** is worthless.

I'm not very religious - but I think this is God's way of telling us something. If there is a Hell, huge parts of our medical establishment are going to be feeling pretty toasty for a loooong time.
Bobn
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That's Dr Leanna Wen. She appears on CNN periodically as a "medical" consultant. She is the proverbial village idiot. She used to be head of Planned Parenthood at one time. Didn't last out a year due to a personality conflict with board of directors.


That witch is a f***ing sociopath. I've never seen anybody so damn *cheerful* while discussing how to punish people into taking shots they don't want.

I need to stop talking about her.
Neonsignal
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@tickerguy

off topic but i've been downloading the UK weekly vaccine surveillance reports and adding them to a spreadsheet, and i thought you might find this interesting.

the case rates in vax populations have been steadily getting worse week over week relative to unvax... (see the lower columns 'ratio 37-36' is subtracting the ratio from week 36 from the ratio week 37, showing across the board increases; and same for 38-37.

i also checked the rates for week 37 18-29 age group for "partially vaccinated" and it shows 2x the case rate in partial vax vs unvax.
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Carllieb
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This is unbelievable information thank you! I live in South Africa and have been taking Ivermectin as prophylactic since December. But if the therapeutic treatment is this easy, Im going to send this to my GP mate and ask him if its necessary to continue with Ivermectin.

Thank again.
Eoinw
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I picked up something Sunday. Didn't make me sick but I could feel I was fighting something off. Treading water anyway. Then Tuesday morning I could feel a slight infection in my chest. I know the feeling because any time I get a cold - once every 2-3 years - it leads to a chest infection I need antibiotics to get rid of.

I don't have the option of ivermectin. What excuse can I make? I live I Canada. Anyway I did have some 21 month old antibiotics around(Amoxicillin Trihydrate). I began taking them, 3 tablets that day, and by Wednesday I felt healthy again.

I mentioned to a friend yesterday that it couldn't have been covid because antibiotics don't work on that virus. Which brings me to the point of this post: are antibiotics a form of covid treatment that works?

Thanks for all the great info in another terrific ticker.
Tickerguy
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@Oliver1655 - As others have noted the meters are all basically the same. I had one that was MANY years old (used on my father when he was on hospice) and the "lower priced" ones all look EXACTLY like it -- including the layout of the displays. The "fancier" ones just have nicer displays. I bet the actual algorithm and electronics are identical. They're CHEAP -- $20 or so -- and there's no reason to pay more as you don't get more.

@Eoinw - Macrolide antibiotics (Zpak and a few others) have immune modulating methods of action AS WELL as being useful against bacterial infections. Most other classes of antibiotics do not and likely are worthless against Covid. HOWEVER, if you get a secondary bacterial infection....

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Egallred
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@Eoniw there is this from the paper Karl linked

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Azithromycin appears to act as a lysosomotropic agent, affecting lysosomal traffic and pH [13,14]. A similar mechanism has been proposed for the now controversial hydroxychloroquine [15], which alkalinizes phagolysosomes by inhibiting viral segmentation mediated by pH-dependent proteases, interfering with the fusion process and viral replication. Perhaps it is needed to correctly determine the minimum not toxic effective dose. Possible effects of azithromycin would include interference with ACE2 receptor and decrease virus binding [16], increase of the intra-vesicular pH of endosomes and lysosomes up to around neutrality, thereby inhibiting the lysosomal enzyme activities responsible in virus entry and replication cycle [17].


So although antibiotics don't directly kill viruses it is possible they could have some antiviral effect.

I'm not a doctor but I generally avoid antibiotics unless they are necessary. I wouldn't make it a habit of taking them every time I felt off.
Tickerguy
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I would definitely NOT use them prophylactically -- ever. You can easily wind up with an antibiotic-resistance bacterial or worse, fungal infection that is very hard or even impossible to treat. In other words, DEAD.

If KNOWN infected its a different story. But antibiotics are absolutely drugs you do not take without good cause, ever.

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Homer
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I wouldnt take an antibiotic unless absolutely necessary. Your gut microbiome is very beneficial and you dont want to destroy it needlessly.
Eoinw
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Yes I'd heard about how taking antibiotics orally is like carpet bombing your stomach.

Thanks for the great advice!
Mosaik
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Many thanks, TG, for the great info from the Spanish study. I am saving in my "treatment" vault.

I just read something of more than passing interest, an essay by Norman Lewis entitled "The Danger of Scientific Dogmatism."

It is mainly an introduction to the work of Robert Edgar Hope-Simpson, an English physician who won the Nobel Prize for his decades-long work that led to his discovery that shingles was caused by the same virus that causes chicken pox. You can read an interesting bio at Wiki. He was basically a country doctor. A very good one. He observed closely and kept records of patterns of illness in his patients and also carried out some studies in isolated island populations.

Hope-Simpson did a lot of deep thinking about how viruses are transmitted---namely, he hypothesized that since the influenza crops up in many places at once, it cannot be the result of human transmission in its active form. The virus must already be present in a dormant form and then be activated by various seasonal phenomena. Lewis points out that the covid orthodoxy has led to the sidelining of many potentially productive lines of inquiry, regarding esp. the numerous reports of the SARS-CoV-2 virus or of covid-similar outbreaks in disparate locations as early as 2019.

I hope this precis will motivate you and others to read the essay, as it is well written and, I believe, highly relevant to both the medical and the political situation. I guess you could call it "medicopolitical."

https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/10/19....
Mosaik
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@Ewtnewbie2

I was gobsmacked to read in the NYT at the library this a.m. that "Experts" and "an FDA committee" or some such vague language has voted to approve the boosters.

I saw no mention of the fact that the "FDA Vaccine Advisory Committee" (actual name of committee) had last Friday voted AGAINST approving the boosters except for a few circumstance. WTF???

It's no wonder the public is bamboozled and confused.
I'm glad I don't normally read the NYT.
It would raise my blood pressure.
Jacksonlee
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The overuse of antibiotics has in many cases caused a epidemic of C.Diff.
My mother who is 92 had it twice and it can be very serious and very expensive.

I had to tell them to test for it because her previous physician said it was probably just IBS and told her to take Imodium. After a sinus infection.
The second time she got it, was after a hip fracture surgery when they gave her an antibiotic.

They treated her with an one antibiotic to get rid of it and than another after the first one didn't work, that only relieved it for about a week and it came back with a vengeance.
I than started doing some serious research and found the one that had been successful in eradicating C. Diff and told her physician. They had never heard about it.
Surprise, surprise. Anyway, that was successful. So far so good, and its been about 6 months. Only trouble is that it cost $ 1100.00 for ten pills and that is with insurance.

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Folks, please see it differently, if you can. WE ARE the power, and have already won, if we so see it as such.
I honestly believe this, and have been speaking about it for awhile..we ARE creating/choosing our reality.
unknown source:
Their biggest mistake. They knew that the human collective was reaching a very high vibration. But they werent aware of the amount of awake souls. They noticed the evaluation error. And they got scared. Now they dont hide anymore. Now they are in a hurry to officially launch a new world order. Now their attacks are direct and frontal. And the attacks will increase. They will try by all means to keep people from waking up.
They will try by all means that the awake cannot communicate so as not to wake up others. They will try by all means that the awakened are seen as insane or delinquents. Whatever they do, it doesnt matter. The quantum leap has already occurred. It is unstoppable. Humanity already contemplates plants and animals as souls that animate them. Humanity already respects mother earth. Humanity already understands that there is no separation.
The souls who are now incarnating already come as teachers. No more experimenting. They only incarnate to teach to love. We may be witnessing total change or not. The transition could take a week or 300 years. But it is unstoppable. Whatever happens during the transition, remember one thing: it was you who offered yourself. To stay here and now. Whatever happens. Whatever you see. You are the engines of change. Only one thing is required of you. Only one.
Dont be food. It is the only thing you have to do. A simple thing. Dont be food. The human being is one of the most powerful generators that exist. We are whirlpools. Depending on the polarity you align to, you create high or low frequencies. These dark entities feed on low frequencies, we have been feeding them for millennia. The awakening of humanity has tilted the collective vortex towards high frequencies. This is why they are attacking with such ferocity. They are starving.
Connect with your soul. And watch yourself.
If your soul resonates with these words, dont give a second of your existence anymore to be food. Eliminate the low passions of your life. Hatred, resentment, envy, fear, vices, junk foods, lies, ambition. Selfishness, sadness, distrust. All of this generates dense energy. Food for the dark ones. Be aware of your emotions. Listen. Of you.
And if on any occasion you feel in any of these low vibrations, ipso facto change your energy. Put on some music that will lift you up. Sing. Dance. Breathe. Light an incense. Hug your cats. Hug a friend. Hug your dog. Hug your mom. Embrace your pet family. Go for a walk in nature. Meditate. Exercise. Do whatever it takes. But that energy changes immediately. Because you are serving as food.
Always be aware. And the only thing that is asked of you is not to feed the dark hordes. Feed your soul with everything that helps you get up. If you get used to living in the frequency of love, your reality will change to your will without effort. You are a powerful being. You are unstoppable. Dont fear anything. Free your mind from the matrix. Focus your attention on what you want. But above all, have fun, be happy, smile, sing, dance. Loves. We are alive by loving everything. And you are part of it. Together with the stars and the sun. And to all the galaxies of the universe. You are love.
THEY UNDERESTIMATE US

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"If might is right, then love has no place in the world. It may be so, it may be so. But I don't have the strength to live in a world like that..."-Father Gabriel, 'The Mission'


Mightymosin
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@onelegged... In the AV industry?
Mjc1960
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The local hospital system here in NW South Carolina has been sending emails to staff doctors that Vitamin C & D along with other mentioned over the counter drugs and vitamins have not been proven to be effective for COVID and are not recommended by the FDA.
Doctors are not to give this advise to patients or use these therapies for hospitalized patients. Family members are not allowed to bring these items into the hospital.
WTF. Do everything you can to stay out of the hospital.

Apparently less than 2% of the FDA budget was used for studying COVID last year. I'm sure it was used to debunk any treatment but the VAX.

Jack_crabb
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**** the lying, murdering, mother****ing ****ers.

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Molon Labe
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Franco
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The local hospital system here in NW South Carolina has been sending emails to staff doctors that Vitamin C & D along with other mentioned over the counter drugs and vitamins have not been proven to be effective for COVID and are not recommended by the FDA.

I thought that the correlation between vitamin D deficiency and severity of covid symptoms was very strong. Like, almost all patients in the ICU had a deficiency in vitamin D. It is also known that about half of all people are deficient in vitamin D. So how is it that the government has not been telling people to get their vitamin D level checked with a simple blood test, and supplementing if necessary?
Tickerguy
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They don't give a crap if you die.

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Larryboy
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@Jack_crabb
You definitely have a way with words. I am honored to be in the same blog with you.
Tsherry
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"They don't give a crap if you die."

Oh, I think they're rooting for you to die, after looting your bank account.
Psmcd
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el gato malo posts another good review that parallels Karl's work.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/all-c....

Ceiii2000
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The correlation between treatment of ANY kind, even stuff we used for the flu, allergies, cold, etc. prior to covid, and better outcome is proven. But

Tickerguy wrote..
They don't give a crap if you die.
Asimov
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It's not that they care if you live or die, there's no money to be made off vitamin D.

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Jack_crabb
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@Larryboy - I'm not a complete idiot, but am virtually positive that I inhabit the left side of the IQ bell curve and most other bell curves that can be constructed from TF members. Regardless, I consider that I offer colorful, comedic relief.

As an aside, I am somewhat proud of myself for being a bit of an icon here and for having my own tiny slice of TF that are "fans".

Edit to add: And a special thanks to our genial host for indulging/putting up with me.

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