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Gavilan
Posts: 102
Incept: 2014-01-01

land of maņana
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If you have a Sprouts in your town, they do not seem to have any shortages of NAC
Kontrolkaos
Posts: 13
Incept: 2021-09-13

the bar on the strand
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NAC may still be available at LifeExtensions. There are likely a few other sites one can get it at. No script required.

I don't think I've ever had allergies, but I do go through a lot of kleenex and I often sneeze when I get sunlight in my face. So maybe I do have some low level allergy. Could be worth looking at Claritin or something along those lines.
Susanlauren
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I keep telling myself that it can't get any worse. And yet it does. I am wondering the percentages of people who are awake and aware vs. those who are hook line and sinker into the official narrative and propaganda. The powers that be just continue to double down.
Jw.
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Incept: 2019-10-10

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Guess who just came out with a report saying Remdesivir cures COVID??

Gilead...

You could could not make this into a movie that anyone would believe, it would be too preposterous. And yet it is happening in real time and over half the country is lapping it up.
Jc3
Posts: 260
Incept: 2020-03-02

South Texas 93 miles from Houston
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What is amazing(and anger-inducing) is finding out that many of the anti-inflammatory supplements taken here pre-covid to keep traumatic hip arthritis(1972 motorcycle accident) pain free actually work to prevent and/or lessen covid. Examples of some taken daily since 2006, some prior to that(been working at the pain-free formula for 49 years).

Lysine
EGCG
Theracurmin
Vitamin C
Vitamin D3
NAC
Carlsons Cod Liver Oil(lemon-flavored)
Addiction to nasal sprays(since moving to Texas) as it seems to PREVENT allergies

@Chemman agreed on Swansons. Just bought some more and some for co-workers who have had their wives get covid and they did not(but have antibodies, they were on FLCCC protocol and vitamin I). Both wives were having post-covid issues so I tossed them some bottles of NAC to help speed full recovery up.

Everyday we learn more and more that this entire manure show was treatable and preventable without deliberate destruction of the economy, lives, and children's futures. Discussing this with co-workers, one mentioned that watching all of the actions by "leaders" and making a list of reasons why they would select paths forward. The only remaining reason on the list, after scrutiny, was deliberate killing of a massive number of people for profit and/or other reasons. These are all young people, 20 to 45 years old, coming to this conclusion. Good to see they have BS Meters that still function.

I'm 66 next month. I recall noting to my wife while watching a very early press-con where HCQ was brought up by OrangeManBad and the squirming little gnome immediately shot it down. I turned to my wife and said: "I don't trust that little F'er. He's lying for some reason." A few minutes searching NCBI HCQ Sars with a non-google engine proved it to be true. Lying MF'er.

August 2005 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article....
March 2020 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article....
August 2020 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article....
Maudite
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@TG You are picked up on at Freerepublic

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/39....
Oliver1655
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Thanks everyone for the additional OTC product discussion and info on things that need to be added to the prep storehouse. I'm sure at some point they will "disappear" the widely available OTC remedies or claim shortages just like vitamin i has suddenly been cut off.

These miserable bastards refusing to acknowledge simple effective remedies make my blood boil while they continue to deny any other avenue except playing the "clottery".

BTW can anyone suggest a decent brand or provide a link to a pulse/Oximeter that is reliable enough to monitor O2 levels if things start to go sideways ?

I'll definitely be adding these things to my coof prep kits.

Our asswipe governor is starting to flap his tyrannical mouth again so fully expect there will be another attempt to coerce or force more restrictions this fall /winter when the stabbed start dropping like flies. Too many brain dead will fall all over themselves to bow down and worship these tyrants.

I aim to be fully prepared with everything needed on hand and ready to go at first indication on top of current prophylaxis regime.

Larryboy
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Incept: 2012-12-29

Windsor Colorado
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So what is our new protocol? A double serving of Claratin and Zyrtec at the first symptoms and continue until you are well (along with the other FLCCC LINEUP)? All of the doctors (except the front line docs) might as well get covid, take a Tylenol and die as they are of no value to us in this environment.
Jesjohn94
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Incept: 2019-05-07

Atlanta
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This entire COVID19 event is amazing. The Chinese are extremely clever. Only a fool would underestimate them. They locked down cities in their response. That was shocking when it happened. If they hadn't done that I seriously doubt the west could have got away with doing it.

USA is a special case in the west as every other wealthy country has universal healthcare. So what is the benefit for these other countries having higher medical costs.

Why are the rest of the advanced countries doing this dangerous jab nonsense calling it a vaccine when it clearly isn't.

What has shocked me recently is Remdesivir. I think I always knew it was pretty much useless with a dangerous safety profile. What I am reading lately is it has an utterly insane danger profile killing a lot of people. Could this single drug which helps no one be causing at least 30% of covid deaths in USA? Are any other countries using this drug? How can this be happening?


Whitehat
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Incept: 2017-06-27

Elsewhere
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it has been years since i purchased any medications OTC or prescription, but would caution against generics especially from online suppliers. At least with a name brand one can provide lot codes to the company to verify that it is not counterfeit, and a USA presence is available for litigation. Was warned about this by the nurse daughter of a sailing buddy back in 2006. She did quality control over in Asia and saw some stuff that she did not appreciate with the generic factories. Think that it has improved?

@Patentleathershoes -- i am curious about two things. The Claritin (loratadine) is working as a pain medicine? If not too personal, wondering what conditions for which it is effective. It seems that your doctors also place you on a higher dose of the same active ingredient on a cycle. The curious thing is that my doctor considers loratadine safe for SLE patients and similar but not the active ingredient in Zyrtec, cetirizine, mostly due to the potential to interact with the quinine supplements and prescription meds. Your thoughts?

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Crazyhorse
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Incept: 2020-04-21

Austin, Tx
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How long until Dr. Fugazi orders Claritin and Zyrtec off the shelf to "protect" people?
Deep6
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Incept: 2015-09-01

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@Drifter
The data site I gave is numbers generated by the 'EXPERTS'. Look inside a given state. The current Covid R number is given for that state and within the state's 'details', the particular county of interest within that state, the current R number is given along with current cases being reported within that county. In my state, Nevada, the media is saying C-19 cases are INCREASING in the 'quad' counties of my area. That'd be Carson City, Washoe, Lyons, and Douglas. According to the acknowledged 'experts', the John Hopkins data sets, that ain't true. The reissued mandates were all done AFTER the R0 number had already peaked in 3 of those counties. Check your state, the county of your abode. What your local leaders are saying probably is at odds with their own recognized 'experts' (John Hopkins). Also within your or any county, look at the ESTIMATED number of people having already been INFECTED, NOT INJECTED. The lower the number, under 60%, chances are that county will probably be hit hard with the next 'wave'.......unless of course the 'vaccines' totally screw-up immune systems, then those 'estimates' are meaningless. Again, the data source given is just another indication of the lies that are being told by our 'leaders'; political, medical, community. They have access to that John Hopkins data. They KNOW exactly what's going on. They have NO excuse.......
Now about that ****ty C-19 medical 'treatment' and 'vaccines'.......
Moconserv
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Incept: 2013-02-13

Central Missouri
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@Susanlauren...... pray 'em dead. Growing up (Catholic) in a very small midwestern town we had a priest.... a very conservative priest who rarely preached politics from the pulpit but when there was a political issue or politician that had views opposite his he would gently speak to the congregation to "ask the Lord Jesus Christ, in his infinite wisdom to remove these people from our midst"..... we always joked that Msgr. said this morning to "Pray 'em dead". I'm not a very prayerful person but damn.... I'm willing to give it a shot at this point.

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Bluto
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Incept: 2021-07-10

Florida
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This whole thing is a complete travesty. I recently heard an interview with Scott Gottleib (former FDA director, now on the board of Pfizer) on NPR. Here are the questions they should have, but did not ask:

1) How much money is Pfizer getting paid for each clot shot?
2) Don't you think you have a conflict of interest in pimping this vaccine?
3) What do you think about the 15,000 deaths in VAERS, which is two orders of magnitude more than any other vaccine in VAERS?
4) Please comment on the data our of the UK and Israel, which shows vaccine protection wanes over time, and may be causing vaccine enhanced illness
5) If the vaccine is "safe", do you support removing liability protection?

Clown show.

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"I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -- Thomas Jefferson
Moconserv
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Incept: 2013-02-13

Central Missouri
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You know..... Karl constantly reminds us that legal protesting and public shaming/shunning of various public persons is very effective in causing change....and it seems that the news "journalists" are the greatest cause of our angst, local, regional and national personalities. Can't be that difficult to find out where they live, dine, shop, worship..... just sayin.

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Oregoncactus
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Incept: 2012-01-06

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@Whitehat when I was on chemo (Taxol and Carboplatin) the infusion nurses suggested Claritin - name brand only - for the bone pain caused by chemo. They didn't explain the mechanism. The cancer forum I was on also had many people saying it worked for them. Sadly, it didn't work for me. I tried the name brand and the costco version.
Onelegged
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Incept: 2009-11-13

NW Colorado
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Got back to the hotel after work yesterday. Took a shower. 20 minutes later. light headed. Achy. Bloated guts (never had that in my entire life before). Later shivering and shooting aches. Not shooting pains, shooting aches. Weird as Hell. Got tested today. Results in the same 5 days as usual. Scam.

Called off work. Boss man texts me and informs me that the homeowners at the job site were I was were pissed that I was on site unvaccinated with no mask. I told him there was ZERO signage and Zero conversation about the subject. Then he announced "You are hereby notified you must wear a mask in all job sites if you are not vaccinated." I asked him who said that I wasn't vaccinated? I never did. If he tries to enforce that one he's in for a rude awakening.

The ****ing company didn't mind a bit when I took only 6 days off of work and resumed flying on April 4th when the lockdowns hit in 2020 logging about 140,000 miles to date. Now since I'm unvaxxed I'm endangering everyone else.

Eat a rotten bag of dicks.


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Onelegged
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NW Colorado
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I just had a short conference with a neighbor. I was gone three days for work. In those three days four other neighbors tested positive (all symptomatic) all fully vaccinated.

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Bluto
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Incept: 2021-07-10

Florida
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@Onelegged

Is starting your own business an option? It seems like boss man ain't adding much value.

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Jc3
Posts: 260
Incept: 2020-03-02

South Texas 93 miles from Houston
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@Oliver1655 about the O2 monitor, we have one inexpensive one here passed from late mother-in-law to wife(used during congestive heart failure/lung fluid issues) and post-heart surgery. With Covid, I decided to get some "spares" as that one still works but has seen a LOT of use. We got 2 of these to have in the "medical pantry". Tested both, both work well.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PQ8....

They run on AAA batteries, we have spare alkalines and a LOT of rechargeable ENELOOPs that also are used in our LED headlights(hurricane and freeze power outage use). The ENELOOPs work. I've a pile a AA's used with band and in cameras. The band-use ones have seen over 800 shows(charge, use for 4 hours, recharge prior to next gig, repeat) since about 2008 IIRC. We DO NOT use the "pro" versions as their total life span is shorter and they cost more.
AAA's used here:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0176D....
AA"s used here:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JHK....
Bkmiller
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Incept: 2008-08-30

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Whitehat wrote..
doctor considers loratadine safe for SLE patients and similar but not the active ingredient in Zyrtec, cetirizine, mostly due to the potential to interact with the quinine supplements and prescription meds

@Whitehat, FWIW, did a search on drugs.com (my favorite go-to on interactions) for med interactions of loratadine & ceterizine today. Apparently ceterizine has far more potential interactions than loatadine. Just wanted to pass it along.
Boughtthefarm
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Incept: 2009-12-06

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Not trying to be an ass kisser here karl. Over the years I think you've been wrong on some significant things.

However, I think in a rational world you'd get a Pulitzer for your journalism on this covid thing. Outstanding, unrelenting, bulldog work.
Mjc1960
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Incept: 2015-02-28

chicago, il
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This screenshot from Medcram is one that was used to show vaccine efficacy.
What caught my eye was the number of hospitalized with the Pfizer shot as opposed to the others. What they did was normalize a group based on unvaccinated hospital admission of people who went to hospital thinking they had COVID.
Why do so many people with the Pfizer vaccine go to the hospital thinking they have COVID? 10x more than the Johnson vax.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA-sCLJO....

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Txdg00
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Incept: 2020-08-10

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@Oliver1655 I think most of the pulse oximeters available on the market are pretty similar. Pick up one or two and start using them now, while healthy, to get a baseline. The main issues people seem to run into are nail polish and nail diseases throwing errors or strange readings. If the pulse registers strong, they're all pretty similar from what I can tell. I grabbed one from Walgreens a year and a half ago for like $30 and it has worked fine.
Flamberge
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Incept: 2011-07-01

Colorado
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Wow. Just Wow.

I have all of this stuff at hand already. And I will have no trouble getting more as needed.

What I would like to say about our Government is unfit for any public forum.


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