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2021-09-24 05:03 by Karl Denninger
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... in a not-so-tiny nation called Spain, a nursing home had a nasty virus get into it.

It was March of 2020.  The nasty virus was called Covid-19.  And this nursing home, like so many others all over the world, was full of elderly, morbid people.  The mean age of residents was 85 and 48% were over 80 years old.  It was a killing field, like so many others.....

Within three months 100% of the residents had caught the virus.  Not presumed to have -- proved to have.

How do we know this?  Because almost every one of them seroconverted.  All but three out of 84 of them, to be precise.

Think about that last sentence for a second.

Almost every one of them seroconverted.

How's that possible?  Many of them died, right?  You can't seroconvert if you're dead.

No.  Not only did nearly none die none went to the hospital either because they rapidly figured out how to stop the virus from killing people -- and did exactly that.

You would have thought this would have been all over the news.  In point of fact not one mention of it was made.  Further, not one write-up was made in medical journals either until January of 2021, which I missed.  My bad -- out of the several hundred medical journal pieces, I missed this one.  It was brought to my attention on my forum and my jaw immediately hit the floor.

The jab train must continue, you see.  So must the ventilator train.  So must the money train, the mask train and the rest of the BS we have endured for the last 18+ months.

So must the slaughter for money, the fear, and the lies.

So what did these few nursing homes do that nobody has done since and nobody reported out at the time?

1. Early start of treatment, regardless of the severity of patient symptoms.
  - Antihistamines every 12 h: dexchlorpheniramine 2 mg, cetirizine 10 mg or loratadine 10 mg.

2. Patients with mild or recent-onset symptoms (cough, fever, general malaise, anosmia, polymyalgia):   
   - Azithromycin 500 mg orally every 24 h for 3 days if there is rapid improvement, and for 6 days if the duration of symptoms is prolonged.
   - If pain or fever, acetaminophen 650 mg/6–8 h.
   - Nasal washing and gargling with sodium bicarbonate water (half a glass of warm water with half a teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate).

3. If symptoms of severity (dyspnea, breathing difficulty, mild or moderate chest pain, with SpO2 <80%, heart rate >100 beats per minute at any time of the process):
   - Antihistamines + Azithromycin (see mild treatment management)
   - Levofloxacin 500 mg/12 h, up to 14 days of antibiotic treatment from diagnosis.
   - Mepifilin solution, 50 mg/8 h as a bronchodilator, until subjective improvement. Patients with previous lung disease (asthma or COPD) used their usual bronchodilators.
   - If the patient experienced increased breathing difficulty, prednisone 1 mg/kg/day divided into two doses until clinical improvement, and then it was slowly tapered down.
 
4. Prophylactic treatment for close contacts, including all asymptomatic residents:
  - Antihistamines at the same dose as symptomatic patients.

Ed 9/25 11:30 - Reformatted the cut section; it got mangled by the forum.  Still not what I'd like in terms of formatting, but at least it's readable now... and one typo corrected.

Look at that top line.

Cetrizine is otherwise known as Zyrtec.  Loratadine is otherwise known as Claritin.  Dexchlorpheniramine is not often-used in the US anymore, but it used to be.  The other two core drugs were Azithromycin and Levofloxacin, both common antibiotics with the first being the infamous "Zpak" from the HCQ+Zinc+Zpak combination that a fraudulent study was used to discredit.

Both of the first two antihistamines are available over the counter in most nations including the United States.  The dosing they used is twice that on the label.  The two antibiotics are both available anywhere for little money.

Before they started treating people three residents died.  The entire group of them had the common maladies of old age -- hypertension, diabetes, COPD, cardiovascular disease.  Most were using a huge range of existing drugs for their conditions (5 or more.)  

As soon as they started treating people the following happened:

All of our patients evolved satisfactorily and were recovered at the beginning of June. No adverse effects were recorded in any patient and no one required hospital admission. At the end of June, 100% of the residents and almost half of the workers had positive serology for COVID-19, most of them with past infection.

Not one adverse event occurred among these residents and staff and no hospitalizations were necessary either.

In pooled data 28% of the residents in similar nursing homes over the same time period died.  In these two, once they started treating with cheap drugs, leading with those available over the counter in the US, ZERO -- I repeat -- ZERO had a bad reaction to the protocol, ZERO died and ZERO were admitted to a hospital for treatment.

ZERO.

It was one hundred percent effective.

Yes, it's a small sample.  Go do the statistical math on the CI for that size sample and results if you insist.

According to the mechanisms of action described, these drugs would act synergistically in the early stages of the disease, which is why we consider it essential to start the treatment as soon as possible. Once the virus has colonized the respiratory system, the effectiveness is probably more limited, and hence the failure of these treatments in more advanced stages of the disease, when hospital admission is necessary. In our experience, early double antibiotics were effective to control the process in cases with moderate symptoms.

Nobody cared.

Nobody reported on this.

Nobody duplicated it either.

I didn't even realize this study existed; had I known of it guess what I would have added to my protocol when I got Covid-19 the first week of August of this year, since it happens to be in my medicine cabinet already for seasonal allergies?  Uh huh.  Two 60ct bottles of generic Claritin equivalent costs about $12 at WalMart.

Folks, think about this long and hard: In the worst-case scenario for those who this virus should have killed -- it killed nobody.  It should be killing statistically nobody today -- right here, right now.  How to prevent it from doing so was discovered in March and April of 2020 and intentionally ignored worldwide.

It is still being ignored today.

With these numbers there is no reason to fear a Covid-19 infection.  There is no reason to take a vaccine.  There was never a reason to develop a vaccine, especially the ones we have today; infection that does not produce severe disease is sterilizing and thus wildly superior to vaccinated immunity which is now proved to be failing worldwide.  There is no reason to wear a mask.

Every single one of these residents seroconverted and became immune with mild or moderate symptoms consistent with seasonal colds and flus and not one of them was put into the hospital or killed. The treatment is so ******ned cheap and available there's no excuse to not use it instantly on suspicion of infection and prophylactically among everyone else in your household at first sign of trouble.

You think the entire load of BS around HCQ and Ivermectin is bad?  This is a thousand times worse.

Those who died did not do so due to a "novel coronavirus"; we knew how to treat that infection successfully for pennies in March and April of 2020.  Yes, in the first month or two people died because we did not know.

Beyond April of 2020 people died because we let the medical system and governments murder them for profit and they're still doing it today.  We, the people, have allowed this.  We have failed and refused to rise up and hold accountable, personally, every single hospital, doctor, so-called "hero" nurse and every single politician across the globe.  They willfully and intentionally slaughtered millions on a global basis.

The answer to the problem -- to Covid-19 -- was known in March and April of 2020 and yet not published until January of this year, and even then not one single bit of media attention nor a single mention from Fauci, the CDC, the NIH or FDA has been made, all in the interest of Moderna and Pfizer's stock prices and the power-mad jackasses on an international basis -- at the cost of your loved ones' lives.

That wasn't an accident and it still isn't one.

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Wow. I hadn't heard anything about that, either. Although 84 sounds like a low number, when you have zero fatalities the upper bound of the 95% CI is still under 1%*, which is way better than the normal outcome in this population. Yes, if TPTB really cared about saving lives they would've surged in there, collected detailed data, and at a minimum set up rapid observational studies or RCTs to attempt to replicate the results, then pushed them out as recommendations if they worked.

If they really cared about saving lives.

*Edited to add: using the quick-and-easy normal approximation, the upper bound is under 1%. The exact CI has an upper bound of about 6%--however, in the >80 institutionalized population, that is still very low compared to the observed norm.

Reason: Added further info about the 95% CI
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Wild guess:

It was noticed, by P****erz and forms the basis, in a slightly reformulated and patentable recipe, for the new anti Covid-19 pill they claim to have developed.


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Don't see a link to the study

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article....

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Antihistamines and azithromycin as a treatment for COVID-19 on primary health care A retrospective observational study in elderly patients

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Fixed the missing link -- thanks.

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In light of this evidence I don't know whether to weep or to rejoice.

I do know however what I am going to have my GP prescribe me.
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I take allegra AND claritsn (sometimes zyrtec instead of claritin) every single damn day.

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Allergies.

Around the coof ALL THE TIME.

Not dead yet.

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Now you know why.

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Well good. I am on regular dosage of two OTC antihistamines and I also take pseudoephedrine. As one who suffers from severe pollen allergies, I've wondered whether the body's response to allergens prepares it against viruses.

The most severe illness I ever experienced was in context of an allergic response. I could feel it coming on and by the time it hit all I could do was curl up in bed and pray I would live till morning. I experienced extreme fever and body pain. I spent 36 hours in bed before I had the strength to stand up. After another 36 hours I was pretty much recovered.

So I have long wondered, did my immune system learn anything from this episode?
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#3 in the regimen looks like it is the victim of a pasting error. From the linked paper:

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If symptoms of severity (dyspnea, breathing difficulty, mild or moderate chest pain, with SpO2 >80%, heart rate <100 beats per minute at any time of the process):

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Antihistamines + Azithromycin (see mild treatment management)

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Levofloxacin 500 mg/12 h, up to 14 days of antibiotic treatment from diagnosis.

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Mepifilin solution, 50 mg/8 h as a bronchodilator, until subjective improvement. Patients with previous lung disease (asthma or COPD) used their usual bronchodilators.

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If the patient experienced increased breathing difficulty, prednisone 1 mg/kg/day divided into two doses until clinical improvement, and then it was slowly tapered down.
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F**k

Hydroxyzine, azelastine & Benadryl ... work by either disrupting the viruss interactions with ACE2 or by binding with another protein that may interfere with viral replication.

https://m.ufhealth.org/news/2020/existin....
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Karl,
Add bullet point descriptions for clarity:
2. Patients with mild or recent-onset symptoms (cough, fever, general malaise, anosmia, polymyalgia):

3.
If symptoms of severity (dyspnea, breathing difficulty, mild or moderate chest pain, with SpO2 >80%, heart rate <100 beats per minute at any time of the process):

Edit: thank you for this, unbelievable.

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Well time to make everyone hate me again, but if they actually acknowledged the truth it would make them complicit and everyone they trust and listen too lying snakes, thats a hard pill to swallow so I guess it makes sense why they wont listen.

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The authors seemed to have inadvertently reversed the direction of the symbols in #3.

The symptoms of severity should be a SpO2 of LESS than 80%, or a heart rate of OVER 100, as those would suggest the body is struggling to provide oxygen.

Should be: "with SpO2 <80%, heart rate >100 beats per minute".

The included diagram reads correctly.
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I'll be dammed...I'm on Claritin as well.
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No they'll be damned and the list is very long...

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So this can be used in lawsuits and injunction relief requests most likely?
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Are the two instances of 2000 supposed to be 2020?
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Heh, makes sense why I'm the only one in the house who definitely caught the 'Rona... The rest have ****ty allergies and use stuff almost daily, if not daily. In fact, I just set out the younger two Fratspawn's Allegra next to their vitamins before they got on the bus...

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All the nursing home residents seroconverted they got the best of all worlds....

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my barber, great guy, 60s, marathon runner, got this thing early last year. Wrote here previously that he had to pressure his doctor over a video chat to give him Azithromycin either alone or in some combination (i forget). He also took a mild nasal decongestant. Fine in a few days with the lower, right lung pain going away in a few more days after that. His doctor cautioned him to not take the antibiotics, advice that he ignored.

This guy does not take any medicine regularly nor does he pop a pill for just anything. Great example.

Just love how the medical world likes to complicate things. They tried the same **** with my condition and did not succeed. Somehow they nearly always manage to make things worse or chronic. Not some conspiracy, just the way that they think. The whole thing is geared away from seeking minimalist and mild solutions and ... thinking.

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Karl posting information like this report is why the Market Ticker is so awesome!

Thank you!

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Quote:
It was noticed, by P****erz and forms the basis, in a slightly reformulated and patentable recipe, for the new anti Covid-19 pill they claim to have developed.


It's a protease inhibitor like ivermectin. Suspicion is, it's just a slightly reformulated version if it.

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Fascinating. Great find... too bad all those ENT specialists never read it!

Also, if you consider the way the infection progresses through the body [it starts in the sinuses as a mild to moderate URI but becomes toxic if introduced to the bloodstream] that a heavy medicinal treatment regimen while in the early stage - focused on the mucosal infection - makes sense.

This study demonstrated the efficacy of such an approach.

It also adds the Hmmmmmmmmmmm to all those stories of bed-mates that had polar opposite responses - one critical and one asymptomatic.

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No surprise, this information was not released on a massive scale.


The people running the Covid jab bull**** are pure ****ing evil.

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