I am not the brightest bulb on this chandelier, but would quercetin work ilo Claritin or Zyrtec?

@Maddmaxx Thanks for the link. I'll add it to my list.

@Maddmaxx

Well, the people that still can think and change their worldview based on new facts? Yes, compassion and some understanding I can manage. The problem is that that's NOT happening. Their icons are doubling down on the stupidity in the face of all the evidence, so they do the same. Me? I'm over ALL of it, and them. Too many former friends (some VERY close to me) have gone full retard on this shit since Day 1, and I have voluntarily disassociated with them. That may not sound like much, but it was very painful personally and a big step for someone who has always been an extreme extrovert.

Seriously, I think at this point Fauci and his ghouls could come out and admit they were wrong the whole time, and it was purposeful - and a sizeable percentage of these idiots wouldn't believe it and would cling to their masks and distancing as talismans to avoid REALITY.

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We're fucked. There will be no happy ending here; there is no going back to 'normal.'. There are only bad outcomes and worse outcomes. And we don't get to choose those, either.

Weird thing is that older treatment guidelines (2/2021) specifically recommended against Cetirizine. I don't even find it listed in newer ones.


https://medicine.yale.edu/intmed/Adult%2....

They want you dead Craig - After you rack up a huge bill.

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We knew in Texas in 3/2020 about early treatment when a courageous physician, faced with an outbreak in his nursing home, treated 56 of the frail elderly residents and 34 staff with an HZQ based protocol. None went to the hospital and all survived.

https://ktrh.iheart.com/content/2020-04-....

This doctor, Dr. Robin Armstrong, is an interesting fellow. He is the progressives worst nightmare: A black man of faith, married to the same woman for 22 years, successful in the "racist" state of Texas, a well trained physician and a successful business man. Worst of all to The Narrative, he has been active in the RNC and has been photographed with President Trump!!

So, his accomplishment was totally ignored by the "caring" elites.

That was the moment I really started paying attention to what was happening on the ground. That Fauci came out and immediately dismissed this event, and many like it, just confirmed my suspicion that this was all a political deal to hurt Trump's re-election bid.

That Fauci's actions were just cover to protect the EUA for the vaccines and the billions in profits to Big Pharma I don't think any of us suspected.

Why is there not a website where you can go and look up the stats on COVID for each hospital in the United States, with three columns. Column "A" is number of people admitted for COVID. Column "B" is number of people who leave the hospital in a body bag. Column "C" is the Column B divided by A to yield a death rate?

The could be sorted "high to low" or "low to high". Very easy to implement. All you would need are a few data monkeys to upload the information and one mediocre coder.

Then all we have to do is sort Column C, and find out what those hospitals are doing to lower the death rate and duplicate it, and continue to refine the process.

That approach would not only work for COVID, but EVERYTHING else too! Of course, my question is rhetorical, and we all know the answer: the medical system is corrupt as HELL.

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Off topic but I wanted to mention this as I remember Karl posted back in 2020 I believe that it's definitely in fecal matter! And these people think they discovered something new! https://vcreporter.com/2020/09/full-covi....

wow! I had to push this one on Twitter. I even ordered the Zyrtec and Claritin from amzn to add to my arsenal for when i get it.
anecdotal: sister in ny tested + for coof last week Mon. They told her to quar. for 10 days, that's it(no wonder we end up in the hospital). about 38yrs old. she had weakness, loss of appet, joint pain. I sent her 16 x6mg IVM overnight i had here. Only have injectable left for me, but india 12mg x 30 on order. sent her Quercetin and the others also. She took lots of vit c, 18mg ivm 1st day(Sat) and 12mg every day until lot finished. Texted my yesterday that her energy is back and she is up and about.

@tickerguy How does the 100% seroconversion square with pre-existing immunity, which we know to be around 50% or so from the Diamond Princess? Does it mean people who had pre-existing immunity "got" asymptomatic Covid and generated antibodies?

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@Craiglong

Remember that early-on the advice to specifically NOT use ibuprofen came from somewhere. As soon as we learned that it was primarily inflammation-based (thanks, Karl!), it was a WTF moment for me... "So, wait; something that MIGHT help you don't want us to use? Why in the world...?"

Every time we see something that MIGHT help - HCQ, Ivermectin, ibuprofen - isn't it strange that there is an immediate and enormous push by the "health experts" and their idiot media mouthpieces to discredit it and/or make sure no one uses it? Funny, that.

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We're fucked. There will be no happy ending here; there is no going back to 'normal.'. There are only bad outcomes and worse outcomes. And we don't get to choose those, either.

@Bluto - Yep.

If you have immunity that is not an exact match exposure tends to broaden and deepen it.

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@Tickerguy Thanks-- the immune system is indeed very robust and an outstanding design! I've seen genetic code written out in one-dimension, but it is very likely multi-dimensional. In fact, the problem with thalidomide is that it expresses in both a right-hand and left-hand twist. The orientation of the twist is what caused the birth defects.

The bottom line is that the immune system is complicated, it is best not screw with it.

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Looks like Jesse Jackson is finally out of the hospital. He was only there a month. Good thing he took the clot shots. What a joke.

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I use hydroxyzine for anxiety. Just filled a 90-tablet, 10mg script for $8.34 at Walmart. The anxiety angle is another bit of the pharma scam...It is as effective as the benzodiazepines with no addiction or abuse potential.

@Billhrny

That was more than likely H1N1. You said you had the flu shot that year - it did not include H1N1.

Your description of symptoms is spot on for it, the timeframe is right and your lack of antibodies to covid proves the case, in my opinion.

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It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity.

Festina lente.

Karl,
You have saved even more lives with this info, no doubt.
A heartfelt "Thank You."

Great news, and even better, the maker of Remdesivir constructed a study to show that Remdesivir works too. I trust them, why would they lie for a mere $3k per shot? 🤣

Lazydaizy316 wrote..

This is Steven Crowder of Louder with Crowder. I had never heard of NAC. But I have now.

Several of the MedCram vids on YT have mentioned it, and most of us here have heard of it. I've been taking it every other day for the better part of a year.

When Amazon pulled it earlier this year, I stocked up. Right now it's getting quite difficult to find. I'm not sure whether that's due to Crowder's audience having ordered up all the inventory or more threats from the FDA to vendors and manufacturers.

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I'm not sure if this has been posted, but here's a clinical discussion regarding NAC.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article....

and contrary to what was said in the video, NAC can be ordered on line without a prescription, say at WalMart:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/NOW-Supplemen....

Not sure if you have to have a prescription when you pick it up, but there doesn't seem to be any indication that it's required when you place the order in your Cart that a prescription is required.

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KD wrote..

Cetrizine is otherwise known as Zyrtec. Loratadine is otherwise known as Claritin.

Oh great, more things we need to stock up on before this info becomes widely disseminated and these products become scarce.

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My best friend (50 yrs old, fitness nut, clean living gent) came down with the coof 10 days ago. He disregarded ALL of the protocols I sent to him. Instead, he wanted to ride it out on his own. He went to the hospital last night as he had trouble breathing. He's had spiking fevers for 7 straight days and has not slept in 5 days. The doctors gave him a clean bill of health in that his oxygen levels are normal. His breathing issues were due to a continuous cough. He echoed KD in that his insomnia led to borderline hallucinations. He thinks he would not have gone to the ER if he was thinking straight. The docs gave him some steroids and sent him on his way.

Holy crap! My wife and I:

Wife: Mega amounts of antihistamines due to post birth severe allergies as a result of hormone dis-regulation - Has not gotten covid yet

Me: 2x daily Budesonide + sodium bicarbonate flush for post nasal surgery a year ago. 2x Xyzal (Levocetirizine dihydrochloride) daily after discovering I was allergic to mold - Have not gotten covid yet

We've gone out and done all sorts of stuff as her allergies allow. I've flown on a over a half dozen planes and been in equal amounts of airports over the past several months. I've shaken hands... and I have a bad habit of chewing my nails too, but I do wash my hands a lot more now. I got nothing.. not so much as a sniffle. My wife and I were trying to figure out the chances of that since we know several people in our family that got it and who we were around at some point while they were in colleges and around those dirty, damned plague rat college kids ;) .

After reading bullet 4, I am wondering if this is why?

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Irregular Warfare is now in play

This ticker proves the CRIMINAL MEDICAL-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX is in fact a CRIMINAL CARTEL, who are using highly profitable deadly drugs (Remdesivir) and deadly shots (Covid-19 NON-vaccines) to commit GENOCIDE.

Their refusal to utilize known low-cost medications that could save people's lives outlined in this ticker, for over a year now and save them from acquiring lifelong disabilities, rendering many permanently disabled, is cold and precalculated premeditated MASS MURDER.

This is Crime against Humanity.

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"The most grotesque act of Treason is to be born into a free Constitutional Republic, for which you did not risk your life or shed blood to create, and sit back and watch it slowly be taken from you w

Okay what are you going to do about it ?

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