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Quantum
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@ Georgi:

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The .gov everywhere knows those data damn well so they know the jabs are for sure worthless on an individual level and dangerous on a community level. So .gov basically in the whole western world are plain mass murderers either out of stupidity or malignancy.


It's also explainable by cowardice + no character. Rather than admit they were wrong, they double down, hoping that somehow that works or that something else will come along and they can deflect blame, obfuscating their failures.
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When Things Don't Add Up

https://kunstler.com/cluster****-nation/....

"and now the government is freaking out as it appears to have some serious splainin to do"
Kokobeware
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https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/nyc-o....

This is just the beginning. Simple answer. Hurt them in the wallet. F@#$ all these devils.
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Your phone's transmitter is throttled by the tower but at maximum, if commanded to do so, it can emit up to 600mw (legal limit.)

The primary risk, to the extent there is one, is from heating effects.

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Ceiii2000
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I hope you all understand that the approval won't just be for the vax, which is already outdated.

They will use the same argument they use for flu shots and it will cover all varieties of mRNA for coronavirus, because it obviously worked so well. Then of course a few mRNA not for coronavirus will slip through also, because, well it's the same technology.

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"Booster uptake is going to be nowhere near what the original vaxx
Uptake was.

I think thats when the real anger is going to set in."

@Blairkiel If it plays out that people need to take the boosters or face ADE and if they are even half-way transparent on that point (i.e. admit you'll be at greater risk if you don't take the booster) I'd think that's when the real anger sets in.
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Does anyone know what the vaccinated % of hospitalizations and deaths were for the past two months? The MSM is STILL pushing the bull**** that it's 1%. Karl's slide goes to May which is great. But would be great to get updated numbers from CDC
Bakerv
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"But would be great to get updated numbers from CDC"

I have a pair of talking guinea pigs that I could get more truthful "numbers" from than the CDC.
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The primary risk, to the extent there is one, is from heating effects.


This, and the inverse square law from the 5G towers is why I think the 5G panic is bogus. Microwaves and millimeter waves are non-ionizing. The effect from them will be thermal. There is some possibility that lots of cell phone use with holding it next to your ear may cause cancer. I think this unlikely. But if so the best way to prevent this is either a corded ear buds or a blue tooth ear piece (blue tooth is VERY low energy), which is what most people, including myself, do anyways for convenience only.


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Anecdotal update:
3 new cases here, ALL 3 are double vexxed previously.
Imagine my surprise and their buyers' remorse

No update on my sister's blood clots yet(J&J vexxed), she's still in the hospital
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@Winesorbet I posted elsewhere that the report from Scotland showed in the most recent week updated, of the new deaths (38 total) 5 had one dose and 28 were fully vaccinated. It appears that they hadn't been reporting the data in that fashion prior to the report from two weeks ago. I was following the Tables from the UK back in June (until they changed the format and made it harder to decipher, at least IMO). Those tables showed vaccinated deaths at a much higher rate than unvaccinated. I suspect as we move forward the gap between the vaccinated and unvaccinated will shrink.
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Quantum wrote..
It's also explainable by cowardice + no character. Rather than admit they were wrong, they double down, hoping that somehow that works or that something else will come along and they can deflect blame, obfuscating their failures.


Eric Weinstein (Who I think of as Mycroft to Brett's 'Sherlock') nailed it in under 6 minutes: We're living in an era of Anti-Leadership.

https://podclips.com/c/NVmusD


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Edwardteach
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My ONLY issue with 5G is if the hardware comes from Chi-nah and is consequently full of backdoors and taps sucking data back to the motherland.

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this article reminds me of something that i mentioned to Karl a long time ago and studied in the online world from the earliest days of the internet. Actually it existed long before the consumer or really any internet. Here goes.

I am not the only person who knows how to do CTRL-S. Huh?

Years ago people would for their own often noble reasons expend major effort, resources and risk themselves to thoroughly and respectably investigate a matter and propose explanations and solutions. The media mavens of the times whether they be radio, TV, talkshows or papers of record would most of the time ignore them and continue their subsidized path often only acknowledging the alternative (before this word got co opted) in the pejorative.

These people would find audience in odd places such as late night talk radio, niche media and later the internet. The old mavens would have formalized procedures for following them and documenting their work while pillorying them in public.

Then at some point the audience of the mavens would demand answers having been seeded by alternative media. Like the saying goes, "One plays to his audience," the mavens knew when to shift with the work done for them.

During the early days of the internet up to a decade ago i could predict what would be on FOX news national by a particular online publisher that Karl does not like mentioned, so i will not. Does not deny what i documented.

This is why i refused to grant interviews over the years, and will not do any online work that requires major effort outside of fun unless i am making money immediately and at a satisfactory level. Why work for these *******s for free and take abuse. People like to say, "Oh you should do this or that, write this or that ...," and, what? To long term benefit people who do at best nothing for one's interests and tolerate negative expediences too?

it also helps when one has contacts in media who explain how formalized the process is of researching and documenting alternative investigations and ideas keeping them on file until necessary. People worry about media and agents infiltrating forums and debate to shift it somehow. How about wondering if they are taking.

Then each and every person is so thrilled when the old mavens of media start publishing the actual facts of their life's work and that of others. They get recognized. Yet, none dares snap back at the media mavens and call them to the carpet for their previous opinions and lack of coverage. Who also gets paid?

This crisis mess will be over and resolve itself. They always do. What would prevent us from living with the long term risks and costs will be a recognition of the following.

In a short while Twitter will be hosting all sorts of truth regarding this COVID-BS mess and even the economics as will facebook stop censoring. YouTube will have full documentaries and no censorship. The aforesaid will combine this with letting the truth out in the way that best serves the power structure, but virtually all of the fighters for truth will not see it.

The only solution to the above is that people punish these mavens for what they did, and never go back to the media mavens. If you want to ensure this result, everyone who is being censored now, delete these accounts and subscriptions to never go back, and spend life reminding the world of where media stood just a few months prior.

Guaranteed that no person will do this. Being accepted is too tempting.

As an aside, if a person is injured by this scandal, become very aware and astute as to what methods of rectification best serve the power structure and position yourself in the torrent of money that will go by you. Your economic survival could depend upon it, seriously.

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Anyone else here hope like me that Obunghole's big bash turns into a giant super spreader event and all the dickheads that show up have breakthrough infections and die? If a lot of "important people" start croaking, just imagine how the narrative falls apart. **** them all. And **** that red dog retard trying to spin this bull**** too, while we're at it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-lUm6nm....





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Someone asked if the vaccinated can be un****ed. Dr. Hoffe explained that the nanobots become part of the vascular epithelial cells. In 62 percent of the patients he tested the d-dimer tests were elevated indicating micro-clotting in the small capillaries. They don't know where in the person's body this is happening, just that it is. The damage is not sufficient to be picked up on CT scans or MRI, but that doesn't mean it isn't serious and cumulative over time.

That is just one way people are being injured by the vaxx.

I would ask a question in response. How in the world would you fix something like that? And this is just one mechanism of action. There are ADE and OAS issues. There are neurological issues. There are concerns about prions. There are auto immune issues.

It seems to me that COVID is, for most people, treatable and survivable. The vaxx is the real plague and the likely death sentence.
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The d-Dimer problem is real and while that statistical sample is small it ought to make your hair stand up.

What we do not know is whether it returns to normal over some period of time. It MIGHT. It also might not.

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Kokobeware
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Microsoft / Tyson Chicken / NYC ... all announce Vaccine mandates today, within hours of each other. Corporatism / Globalists / Government / Big Pharma ... they are all one in the same.

The hammer is coming down fast and furious.
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@Winesorbet

In the latest data from the U.K., where the Delta variant started earlier and is now waning, it appears from initial look to not be beneficial with respect to death for those over 50 years age to have taken the vaccine (red circles attached image). This is slightly skewed by, but not explained by, the vaccination ratio (claimed to be 70/30). Note that there are many more cases for those over 50 as well (orange circle). One possible explanation for this, which fits data from Israel and elsewhere, is that the people that received the vaccine first are finding that effectiveness has worn off. It will be interesting to see what happens to the younger group over the coming months although unfortunately it may take another variant wave to make it clear. I suspect the data will not be good for the mandaters.

Source: https://www.gov.uk/government/publicatio....
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Berenson still suspended but his latest email just popped into my account. On the latest Israeli data:

"And though we cannot be sure what will happen next, it is worth noting that rates of serious illness among the vaccinated are now as high as they were among the unvaccinated only TWO WEEKS AGO. Perhaps thats why the Israeli government is now predicting a further quadrupling of new serious cases by the end of August:

A quadrupling would represent 800 serious cases, approaching the peak of the winter surge (which was itself probably FUELED by a spike in cases following the first vaccine dose) - and far more than at this time last year.

And remember, Israel CANNOT BLAME THE UNVACCINATED FOR THIS SPIKE - around 85 percent of adults over 30 are fully vaccinated. Thats well above the range experts said would provide herd immunity.

And yet instead of pulling back and at least considering a pause on vaccinations as it digests the disaster of the last month, Israel is going the other way - pushing a third dose on the elderly. Meanwhile the cry to mandate or quasi-mandate vaccinations in the United States is only getting louder.


What on earth is going on?"

He makes a point that needs to be spread to the masses, as it dispels still another claim they made, that herd immunity could be established by vaccinating people. You can point to the other smaller countries in Europe (Malta, Gibraltar) that have even higher vaccination rates and yet have had big outbreaks this summer.

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@Robackrman - Yep.

The problem with the data as it stands is that it appears to show several things:

1. The jabs wear off FAST. Six months or so, to be precise, and they're basically useless.

2. There MAY be residual priming left when they wear off. This is neither proved or excluded by the existing data that has been publicly released. It is strongly suggested, however, by the emergence of "super-spreading" vaccinated people, which we now know is real and documented.

In short the jabs were wildly oversold, especially to those who are most at-risk. What we also do not know is whether the adverse effect risk "resets" with time. This could have already been tested for (since there ARE places that have spread out the 1st/2nd doses and thus the data DOES EXIST) but without mandatory data collection and reporting so that the "voluntary" nature of things like VAERS is not in play you simply can't be sure.

If it does NOT reset then there is some number of jabs for any person, at any level of underlying Covid risk, where the jab becomes more dangerous than infection. For healthy people of any age this already appears to be true even with the initial series, but if there is no "reset" then ultimately that bracket creep on the adverse event side will encompass everyone.

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@Maddmaxx - Given what the CDC has claimed is the R0 for Delta herd immunity via vaccination is mathematically impossible.

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the human body has an amazing ability to detox far greater than other members of the animal kingdom.

Now combine this with the few problem cases being bought off with govt inc support.

My greatest concern is that people are getting all wound up here for something which is not going to happen, thus damaging our larger case for preventing injustices such as that which we have just seen.

Remember what people did after 911, lots simply figured out how to profit from police state inc, and other became accustomed and developed hacks.

Now it is ingrained in us.

The medical tyranny might come through this much, much stronger.

The biggest favor that could be done for us is a epic ADE, vex death fest like none ever seen.

The individual tragedies never prompt a society wide response. See what happened with the swine flu vax mess and other medical errors.

The med establishment might have just been told that it can get away with anything.

The only solution is too horrible to consider when injured small parties have no other choice. It s called the poor man's atomic bomb.

Are we there yet, i hope not, because police state inc is too ingrained.

This thing is very big made up of individuals practicing crowdism. We are not a society since the early sixties. No one cares about his neighbor.

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Kalel666
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Slightly off topic, but extremely relevant, this video is eye opening:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=09maaUaRT4....
Mjc1960
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Divide and conquer
To bad the masses won't just say no to the vax and the tests.
Could they fire half the country
They already can't get people to work.
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