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 Well, Duh. This Is Why It Was Stupid
Milkyway 15 posts, incept 2021-06-21
2021-08-03 08:49:48

@Heartlander Thanks for the reply and the link to the video! I'm gonna watch this tonight when I have more quiet.

I'm not quite convinced yet that vit D will mitigate the effects of ADE and other strange stuff that's outside the usual mechanisms of viral infection. Will be interesting to see if Dr. Cole has anything to say about that!
Conventional_wiz 45 posts, incept 2021-07-19
2021-08-03 08:49:48

Great article!

I have a dumb question:

What is the proof that the vaccines are non-sterilizing?

Is it possible to have a sterilizing vaccine that has a non-zero rate of breakthrough infections like we are seeing? In other words, is it possible to have a sterilizing vaccine that just has a lower "hit rate" than would be desired?
Jwm_in_sb 6k posts, incept 2009-04-16
2021-08-03 08:49:48

Thats the narrative from 2 weeks ago Bluto...thst blew up late last week. Even the msm is beginning to admit it.
Jwm_in_sb 6k posts, incept 2009-04-16
2021-08-03 08:49:48

Anyone ever consider thst they wanted the ADE effects to create mutations on purpose in order to gain more control?
Hobbled 215 posts, incept 2011-02-09
2021-08-03 08:49:48

Thanks guys. Some good things on this. My son is pretty healthy. Since a kid he was in Scouts (before they abandoned their principles) and he made Eagle. Lots of time in the woods lots of exercise. Has continued as adult. He and his wife eat healthy, low carb meals......mostly. He is a field tech and spends 60+ hours in the Texas sun evety week. Their idea of vacay is camping and hiking for miles in rugged terrain. Point being he is doing a lot of things right, just not the jab. We love him fiercely but at 26 all we can do is pray and I wznted info to help him going forward. I will be more proactive but he us an adult and he lives in an extremely liberal city, the Big D, and works in avery liberal field. Again tons of prayers, we know God is in charge of all things. As a dad I want so much for him.
Jules 978 posts, incept 2009-04-18
2021-08-03 08:49:48

Interesting read from Kunstler:

a snippet:
Since now it turns out that the jabs dont seem to work that well. The official story got murkier last week when the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) reported internally to staff (it leaked) that fully vaccinated people might spread the Delta variant at the same rate as unvaccinated people. Whoopsie. In a Delta variant outbreak on Cape Cod last month, three-quarters of the infected were fully vaxed-up patients.
and now the government is freaking out as it appears to have some serious splainin to do and right on the heels, too, of an hysterical month-long campaign to persuade the remaining unvaxed millions to submit to the needle, climaxed by threatening the obdurate hesitants with taking away their employment and ability to participate in commerce and social life. All that sound-and-fury for what? For vaccines that dont work and which, quite possibly, could leave you seriously ill, even dead?

'2023 is going to be shithole bad' - Clay3482 5/24/22

My new favorite insult is "You sound vaccinated"
Tickerguy 190k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2021-08-03 08:52:51

@Conventional_wiz -
I have a dumb question:

What is the proof that the vaccines are non-sterilizing?

The trials themselves. They acknowledge in the original documents that they do not prevent infection and in fact the original trials were not statistically powered to test that, nor were they designed to test it (e.g. weekly surveillance PCR testing of all participants.) This was dogshit from the start, and intentional; they knew, likely from the aborted animal trials they did, that this was the case.
Is it possible to have a sterilizing vaccine that has a non-zero rate of breakthrough infections like we are seeing? In other words, is it possible to have a sterilizing vaccine that just has a lower "hit rate" than would be desired?

Yes. The measles vaccine is sterilizing but not 100% effective, for example.

A vaccine failure is not the same thing as a non-sterilizing vaccine.

The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Tickergroupie 801 posts, incept 2010-03-24
2021-08-03 09:32:50

I have a list of exactly ONE 'credible people' at the moment, and that's Karl.
Who knows what games many of these "experts" are playing. I'm a curious person; that is all.
Quantum 647 posts, incept 2021-05-18
2021-08-03 09:33:01

@Auldsnu--the health industry (shown in this mess primarily by various organizations) is pretty passive-aggressive. If they don't like something (HCQ, ivermectin) they continue to demand more and more evidence, game trials to be intentionally wrong, etc. If they do like something, they'll rush it into EUA or approval because the early evidence is good and we just can't wait.

Unfortunately, I know people who hang on their every word and keep falling for it, Charlie Brown-football style.

Our God, will you not judge them? For we have no power to face this great multitude that is attacking us. We do not know what to do, but our eyes are on you. --2 Chron. 20:12
Abelardlindsey 1k posts, incept 2021-03-26
2021-08-03 09:33:23

As I woke up this morning, I realized that the attempt to implement a "subscription-based" medical dependency model is the most likely explanation for all of this. Previously, I was comparing it to the British 19th Century policy of getting all the Chinese people hooked on opium. Then I realized there is a much more contemporaneous example of this. The Sackler family creating the opioid problem in the 1990's that still plagues us today.

The covid-19 vaccines and the companies making them are doing the same thing, but on a larger, global scale. Unlike the Sackler family, they have the money to donate lavishly on both election campaigns as well as lobbyists. I believe the pharmaceutical industry is the biggest contributor to election campaigns, lobbying efforts, and advertising revenues in all media. This gives them a lot of influence everywhere.

Influence on this level, along with employment, is comparable to the military contractors during the Reagan build-up of the 1980's. Thus, it is reasonable to characterize the pharmaceutical industry in particular, and the rest of the medical establishment in general as a medical-industrial complex, not too dissimilar to the military-industrial complex of years past.

This explanation makes more sense to me than anything else.

Its all in the mitochondria
Georgi 56 posts, incept 2021-07-07
2021-08-03 09:38:18

Finally found the Israel data: Corona-related mortality and hospitalizations after vaccination (just order by week to get the recent data)

My take - it looks like delta-T rather than delta, that is the vaccine efficacy wanes rapidly. It could be that the vaccines are not working for the 70y+ folks but initially they were bragging that the vaccines are effective for those people as well. Hence I believe the delta-T theory rather than 'not working at all for the elderly'

It is also a proof that the vaccines are not sterilising ... well they are f**** useless and dangerous to all as Karl explained so well.

The .gov everywhere knows those data damn well so they know the jabs are for sure worthless on an individual level and dangerous on a community level. So .gov basically in the whole western world are plain mass murderers either out of stupidity or malignancy.

Georgi 56 posts, incept 2021-07-07
2021-08-03 09:38:41

Another question is:

Can the vaccinated be un-fucked?
Just a theory - if they get a dead virus vaccine which presents the whole virus, including the N-proteins to the immune system maybe their immune systems will be recalibrated back to look for the Nucleocapsid rather than only the spike.
I do not think somebody knows this for sure but if the SHTF this could be a way out of this mess.
Most of these people got the jab just because they were naive. Not to mention the kids ...
Jollyrogers 57 posts, incept 2012-07-30
2021-08-03 09:38:53

To pile on to what @Tickerguy wrote, above, not only did the trials not do background surveillance testing of all participants, participants who developed symptoms were to report them to the trials staff to get a recommendation whether or not to get tested.

The folks making testing determination were not blinded to whether or not the participant had been vaccinated. Thus, they may have been more likely to not recommend testing for someone who was vaccinated, because they may have suspected less severe outcomes/lower chance of harm to that person, or because they were deliberately attempting to skew results.
Disgusted 464 posts, incept 2021-07-20
2021-08-03 09:39:09

The criminals are pushing hard for and will get FDA approval next month for sure. That will be all they need to push for a national mandate for everyone. It will be interesting to see how that works out and how they could try to implement such tyranny. One thing they could do I guess, is anyone that gets a government check like social security will have to prove they are vexxed to continue getting it? I have a feeling this is going to get very ugly very fast if they try. The only thing that's going to stop the insanity is for some like Lindsey (no I'm not a bone smoker) Graham to actually start dying soon from breakthrough infections. I think I would be OK with that, in fact I'm hoping for it.

Mjc1960 344 posts, incept 2015-02-28
2021-08-03 09:59:34

This comes from 2 ER docs I know

They don't like the idea of a booster.
Doubts are setting in.
Dnomsed 435 posts, incept 2021-05-18
2021-08-03 10:08:37

I have issued this challenge to many online discussions involving experts, scientists and doctors, who gush about how amazing these jabs are. I have yet to receive an answer.


*Vaxxed 'know' they have less severe symptoms - Please prove this assertion*

The vaxxed have more severe symptoms than unvaxxed when they contract cv19.

Using the available data, disprove this hypothesis.
Mjc1960 344 posts, incept 2015-02-28
2021-08-03 10:23:01

Have you seen the Mike Rapaport video
I'm sure that's how more people are starting to feel.

I think that's why docs are mad at the unvaxxed, big egos
To much faith in the pharmaceutical system
But that's what they are taught in school

Blairkiel 2k posts, incept 2009-08-25
2021-08-03 10:23:08

Booster uptake is going to be nowhere near what the original vaxx
Uptake was.

I think thats when the real anger is going to set in.

Dissenter 284 posts, incept 2021-05-30
2021-08-03 10:29:39

"Most of these people got the jab just because they were naive."

Yeah, fuck that sideways.

This is just more libtard bs so as not to accept responsibility-- Not my fault.

Maybe thats an argument in the middle of bumfuck africa, but thats not good enough in the western world with almost a thousand years of renaissance enlightenment, the best education in the world, and the seat of modern information infrastructure.

Unthinking sentamentality like this is what got us in all of this mess to begin with.

Time to call a spade a spade.

Idealogues with blind allegiance who think emotional intelligence equals thinking, whose willful ignorance got them jabbed is not naivete. Its the logical conclusion.


Hobbled 215 posts, incept 2011-02-09
2021-08-03 10:29:51

One thing I hate beyond measure and may never see my way clesr to forgive is doctors, hospitals and care facilities. They are scaring the ever living daylights out of peeps AND holding you and loved ones hostage in order to get you jabbed with the Clot Shot. No poke no visit, no shot no appointment. Ungorgivesble propaganda and medical tyranny.

I fear more going to a doc than not. If they are this brazen I have zero, nada, zilch faith in their ability to care for or diagnose my health. Nearly 60 y.o. and neither me or my wife (don't ask me her age, unless you wish me ill) take daily meds, just the vitamin concoction to keep things in level. Right now I will trust in God's providence to kerp me going. I will die of a broken body before I inject poison into my system - voluntary or involuntary.
Tickerguy 190k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2021-08-03 10:34:05

Exactly @Hobbled.

They can all fucking die in a fire as far as I'm concerned, along with their entire families. I'm done with nice in this regard.

Docs have done plenty of nasty shit over the years with "here, have a pill!" for everything. They've also promoted and sold all manner of tests and treatments that have questionable benefit .vs. harms. That's not new and its all over the literature, which has made me extremely wary for a very, very long time. After all, medicine has been THE LARGEST business in America now for decades, and from the 1970s to today has grown by 500% in relative terms (percentage of GDP) and nearly all of it has been acquired through felony illegal actions that nobody will prosecute.

But this is a whole different level of scam. Now we've gone from scamming people to literally shoving a gun in their mouth.

IMHO if that leads to their entire genetic line being preemptively erased I'm all right with that.

The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Erroldo 628 posts, incept 2013-09-12
2021-08-03 10:46:51

Supertruckertom: not just (1/r^2), but power level, frequency also. The 5g frequency being the difference.
Tickerguy 190k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2021-08-03 10:48:32


And this is coming from a guy who spent a few years doing code and integration work around HPAs in the microwave RF space. C and Ku band, to be specific, with power levels ranging from the hundreds of watts to kilowatts.

Yes, I took precautions, but the inverse-square law is real and no, the 5g tower down the road isn't going to cook you.

The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Mjc1960 344 posts, incept 2015-02-28
2021-08-03 10:52:27

Good form for those being asked to vax

Mjc1960 344 posts, incept 2015-02-28
2021-08-03 11:09:16

You're phone is the bigger danger, it's up close.
I always use speaker or headset.

Never put it up to my head or in my pocket.
Maybe I am sensitive to it or just crazy,
but I swear I can feel it when it's too close.
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