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Dingleberry
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@ Redjack

So were you one of the hotties in a tight skirt that came in at lunchtime (with food in tow) to sell me the latest miracle drug, akin to discovering penicillin? At 10-100X the cost of the old, boring (but relatively safe) drug?

I believe most people would be shocked to see just how many meds the typical person is taking daily. Even the young. It is mind-boggling.

Now I am reading the jab cost is going up 25%. What a surprise!

Edwardteach
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Susanlauren wrote..
If Karl can understand these (relatively complex) concepts and then explain them in a way that the folks here understand ... I imagine very few of us are MDs or PhDs ... Then what the hell is wrong with these doctors, researchers, scientists?


Two things come to mind. One is there's a certain amount of arrogance amongst many doctors and other medical practitioners, especially when it comes to "lay" persons informing THEM about mistakes in THEIR understanding of medical matters.

The second one is there exists in some of us (and it seems to be based on an individual's Jungian personality type) the ability to look at complex systems and readily identify areas where problems are going to arise. People who do well in IT related careers tend to have this ability, and Karl definitely appears to be one of them. But it's an ability that is fairly uncommon.
Others have alluded to it already...how many INTJs are also vaccine skeptics? I bet they're overrepresented.

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Cheetah9
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@Susanlauren -- "All if this is truly frightening."

Yep but also really pretty exciting too. I'm reminded of the scene in "Independence Day" where the eccentric scientist (Data from Star Trek Next Generation) says something along these lines.

It is. Regardless of how many ****ed up things eventually happen, one can't argue just how exciting or incredible things might be.

You posited how all the super smart docs and scientists can possibly continue to believe the narrative? Same reason folks in yours and my world do. My family and friends are not dumb. They're mostly a helluva lot smarter than I am. The problem is they have and still remain very much beholden to those PTB. They just don't have the ability to take a step back from their ego and realize something ain't right here. They DO NOT WANT TO EVER UPSET THEIR WORLDVIEW! They're too proud of their smarty pants accomplishments. They think they "have it all figured out." They refuse to go against those instincts because they have committed to a certain; "path of least resistance" way of thinking. In their mind, they become incredibly weak if they drift from established precepts in their mind.

They are unreachable. They will never change. Even with facts of millions of people dying because of their choice for the deathstab, they will continue this lunacy and blame everyone else. Ann Barnhardt has the perfect moniker for these people: "Diabolical Narcissists." That is what they are. Has nothing to do with money even though the big wigs at hospitals and the like have most certainly been bought off to perpetuate the narrative. People in our worlds are stuck in their own narcissistic egos.
Dingleberry
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@ Tickerguy

I am now up to 3 people I know this week who got the jabs several months ago, and now have kung flu.

I await their collective epiphanies.
Tristan
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Susanlauren wrote..
Yep, had a friend (pastor) who got the jabb because he and his wife want to travel. He says God told him that he would be protected from essentially "drinking poison".
It might be a good challenge to him to ask why he believes he will be protected from it if he is 1) collaborating with blatant evil; and 2) doing so for the pleasure of his own flesh, not the kingdom of God? James chapter 4:
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You ask and do not receive, because you ask wrongly, to spend it on your passions. You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

Peter wrote that "judgment begins at the household of God." A shepherd needs to remain watchful, or he will be deceived and be a blind guide leading the blind and both will fall into a pit. "For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God."

Jesus points out our inclination to miss what is actually happening, even when it is right in our faces. "When it is evening, you say, 'It will be fair weather, for the sky is red.' And in the morning, 'It will be stormy today, for the sky is red and threatening.' You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times."

But "God told me" to partner with lawlessness so that I can fly into Babylon and marvel at her beauty? No, God told me to remain awake and sober, finding peace and security in him, not in the world. And to test everything.
  • "Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world."
  • "For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect."
I encourage you to challenge your friend with the word of God. Jesus asked Peter, "Do you love me?" then, when Peter said yes, the answer was simple: "Feed my sheep." And if he doesn't think that pharmakeia is rooted in deception or that the vax is an idol, show him this picture as something of a litmus test for his soul:

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Jesjohn94
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Full speed ahead in UK with more jabs. In the USA with states rights it is much harder to force the entire country to do the same thing. The big problem is MSM aren't doing any journalism. As far as I can tell almost all Republican leadership are pushing the jabs too, they just don't want to mandate them. They are fully onboard with trying to make as much money from COVID19 as possible.

Booster vaccines are to be offered to 32million Britons starting early next month with up to 2,000 pharmacies set to deliver the program.

Amid fears that the efficacy of the vaccines may begin to decline, ministers are planning to deliver an average of almost 2.5million third doses a week starting in the first week of September.

Pharmacies will be at the forefront of the vaccine programme so that GPs and other NHS staff can focus on the growing backlog of patients waiting for other treatments.

All adults aged 50 and over, as well as the immuno-suppressed, will be offered the booster jabs.

The campaign could start as soon as Sept 6, which would see the rollout completed by early December if it goes to plan. It is hoped the timetable will leave at least a fortnight for the final people vaccinated to benefit from the jab's effect before Christmas.

Proposals have been drawn up for the Covid-19 vaccine to be co-administered alongside the flu jab, with one injection in each arm mooted.

Ministers are considering giving people a different booster jab to the shot they received for their first and second dose, after early trials suggested that mixing vaccines could provoke an enhanced immune response. It could mean a significant reduction in the use of AstraZeneca jabs.

Seven jabs are being tested, with the mRNA vaccines Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna, and subunit protein vaccine Novavax showing positive results in preliminary data, it is understood.
Susanlauren
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So is it possible the serious outcome risk is even higher in the younger cohort? This is my thinking:

Younger folks are more likely to mount a stronger immune response and are less likely to show key signs and symptoms.

Someone who is 70 with a hemaglobin of 7.0 is going to be severely symptomatic and seek medical care. There is time for the doctors to intervene and get the health situation turned around.

That 20 something with a hemaglobin of 5.something doesn't show any symptoms. But for an urgent care visit for an unrelated health issue, he would have gone to sleep and not awakened.

I guess we are going to find out.

My other thought is that if a large group of people (say hospital employees) are vaxxinated all around the same time, the antibodies would all be wearing off around the same time. Mass illness?
Ajkalian
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Karl:
It looks like the CDC is moving the PCR goalposts or at least thinking about it.

I wonder when/if this change will happen, and if the "hard hitting reporters" of the MSM will report on this change.

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/....

https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/coro....

Kokobeware
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08....

I'm reluctant to actually put much faith in TGP at times as it's very sensational and often misleading. However, am I reading this correct and is this legit? Pfizer's original trial: Of those in the control group, 14 have died. Of those in the vaccinated group, 15 have died!!!

Is this correct?!?!
Erroldo
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I see a narrative shifting on wuflu in MSM such as NYT and CNN/CNBC. we will get covid at some point. The need to also develop therapeutic, vaccine is the only conversation is CNBC discussion. The virus will be with us indefinitely. Need for boosters.

And last... upward wage pressures is on at least in the higher end of the employment wage bell curve, with companies giving HUGE bonus for retention in finance, healthcare(non patient) and silicon valley types.

All of the points I covered above is what Karl's tickers predicted since Feb'2020.
Auldsnu
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@Tickergroupie. Where else? Having piqued our curiosity, please supply a link . . .

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Is there any expectation that these boosters will last more than 6-12 months?

Tickerguy
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No.

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Maddmaxx
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@Kokobeware That's what Alex Berenson posted on his Twitter and they suspended him for it, you know, because you can't post actual data if it doesn't support the chosen narrative.
Kokobeware
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Is there any expectation that these boosters will last more than 6-12 months?

F#$K ... 3-6 months seems like the ceiling. Utter garbage.
Redjack
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@dingleberry

LOL. No, I am dude. One of the people that made and sold the material so that sales lady could visit.

But as part of my job, I would interact with those ladies. Some were wonderful people, many were soulless sharks who knew just how to dress and act to get Dr Old Fart to buy ice while living in the North Pole. I jokingly called one a "Drug W$ore". She said "Red, W$ores don't make the coin I do, and I stay mostly off my back." Didn't have the guts to fire back after that.



The early 2000's were a very odd time.
Abelardlindsey
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A this stage of the game, it is clear there are only two possible explanations with regard to this sterilizing vs. non-sterilizing vaccine business. The first explanation for all of this is that the medical establishment figures were a combination of greed, arrogance, and laziness and that they developed these vaccines this way simply because it was the easy way out. The second explanation is the much darker possibility of some kind of malignant agenda. There really are no other possibilities.

Personally, I still lean towards the first explanation. But I have to admit that it is becoming more difficult to reject the second out of hand. The level of incompetence and just not "giving a ****" is utterly astounding as to be nearly unbelievable.

If the second, the mostly likely possibility is that it is an attempt to put everyone into a "subscription-based" medical dependency, sort of like drug dependency. Opioid dealers make money off of opioid dependency. The recent obsession over the past month to really push vaccination on everyone reeks of desperation, with the most plausible explanation is they are trying to eliminate the existence of a "control" group so as to, hopefully, prevent people from seeing what is going on.

There are darker, much more speculative theories that the stakeholders are trying to carry out some sort of depopulation/sterilization effort. However, the results we're seeing suggests this was a rather clumsy way to do such.

For now, I'm content to subscribe to either 1) or the subscription-based medical dependency.

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Abelardlindsey
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In other words, this could be like the Sackler Family on a much grander scale.

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Ktrosper
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Susan wrote..
Then what the hell is wrong with these doctors, researchers, scientists?
They are morally and intellectually bankrupt. Fact is, there are very few principled men/women of character around.

Men of science who follow the evidence in pursuit of Truth, no matter where it takes them even if it destroys a long-standing premise they've held, are rare. Takes courage to be such a man.
Blair wrote..
Is there any expectation that these boosters will last more than 6-12 months?
Heh, they truly are trying to get everyone on an "immunity subscription plan".
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Nickdanger
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@Ajkalian,

I believe possibly that the CDC is changing horses might be due to the fact that Bill Gates and George Soros have teamed up to purchase a company that produces testing... nothing to see here, move along.

https://stateofthenation.co/?p=75644

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Redjack
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Ktrosper

Being honest, following the data, and not just following the herd is a sure way to become fired in many companies and all academic settings.

"The Emperor's New Clothes" explains this, except in real life they would have killed the kid and the crowd.
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@Winder,

"Assuming the VAERS data is truly only 1-10% of actual deaths/injury, shouldnt excess deaths be showing up somewhere or is that data just not available yet?"

In addition to VAERS, the CDC also publishes every week a spreadsheet detailing the number of people who died in the United States due to various causes. They've added death due to Covid as one of the causes so you can track overtime how many people have died week by week from Covid. There is a category in the weekly death amounts which is people who died in a week with unexplained cause. You could download each of the weekly spreadsheets from the CDC, and then plot out when there was a sudden spike in the number of people dying for a unexplained cause. You can also find a video out on the web that will demonstrate this.

In point of fact, in about late December, when we started vaccinating people for Covid with the mRNA therapeutics, there was an upturn in the number of unexplained deaths. That has continued week after week. You can track the number of unexplained deaths to that week and it was about 500, to my recollection. It's soon swung up into the 700 range, and of late has been about1000. If you seen reports on the non-main stream media side of the Internet that there are 45,000 deaths due to Covid, it's largely determined from this: take an extra 500 deaths a week and multiply by a number of weeks, and you get 45,000 unexplained excess deaths.

If you go gather data to check whether my recollection is correct, it would be great to see you post to charge hear of it.
Jc3
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Observational studies update with new subjects aka folks I know who took the ****shots

1) 63 y/o female, both doses Moderna, has expressed brain fog and extreme tiredness. Witnessed the same out of her.
2) Sister: J&J, hospital 3 days ago, blood clots in legs, sclerosis rapidly progressing. A quick peek behind J&J's wall finds warnings about their vax and MS or just sclerosis carrying people(screenshot attached). No word if J&J jumpstarts this. Some Beach.
3) Two young engineers, 2 months past dose 2(not sure if Pfizer or Moderna), both seem to be producing random errors in their submitted work. This did not occur prior to shots. VERY concerning.
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Burya_rubenstein
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Regarding God, who I'm not a fan of either, if He really doesn't want me to take the Jab, I just hope He's okay with me violating Commandment 5 a few million times in order to avoid it. Personally, failing having everyone suddenly come to their senses real soon, I'm hoping for Hyper-ADE --> Earth Abides in order to save me the trouble.
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This is an article and video from Ann Barnhart's site last Friday. It explains the mode of action of the spike proteins, and the micro-clotting damage they cause. I have to believe that the ones doing all the vaccine pushing have to know this, and are truly evil.

https://www.barnhardt.biz/2021/07/30/dow....

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