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Erroldo
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I read the link JC3 posted. Interesting perspective and that was not even factoring covid scare. As the model look 4 years from now, asia would be the center of action . Traveled over there quite a few times for business. I do like some parts of it(southern china minus the govt, Taiwan, HK, Singapore, Thailand). They seemed welcoming maybe because I am a spender who is in and out in a few weeks. Becoming a resident there is another matter. There may never be another human experiment like the one started here around the end of 1700.
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Anyone not vaccinated yet is still in play. Focus on the young - most influenced by their peer groups and under tremendous pressure. Doing your own research leads to a trust contest. Few can do it. I have more patience with the dumb and do spend time on a few. I have no patience for the arrogant dumb.


Karl - I'm sure it is frustrating to push on a rope, and I often read "**** it all" but you're still at it and I'm always wondering why. I have my guess. This could feed into it: There are 3 young soldiers in my circle who are holding up against vax pressure each time they have a new assignment, thanks in large part to your work. One of them is my son, the other two are his buddies. I have lost that argument more often than I won it, but the few wins are dear to me.

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For a Third post, that is pretty good Bluto.


I am dealing with the possibility of losing close family members in the near future like many people here.

They were deceived or intellectually lazy or are taking an intentional gamble in pursuit of a career.




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Yeah, Heartlander, a lot of people just don't care. They fold to the peer pressure. There was a good study done back in the 70s about how many people will go along with the group (in this case, the group was asked to identify the longest line in a group of lines) due to peer pressure.

Interesting side note: when just one person stood up and told the truth about what line was the longest, that gave the "mark" courage to stand up and also tell the truth.


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Anybody else notice that the reports show a slow but steady increase, dropped substantially in 2020, then took off this year.

Also, maybe mass depression does explain some of this. I mean we are told constantly all the ways we are killing the planet, wiping out biodiversity, causing global warming, etc. Not that some of that isn't true on one scale or another. But after hearing something long enough, true or not it becomes part of your narrative.
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@Venusploto67 I have been bookmarking articles throughout. The other day I went back to look something up, but I couldn't remember exactly which article it was. I discovered that ~40-50% of my bookmarks returned 404 errors. They have gone down the "memory-hole".

Orwell was a prophet.

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@ Dmj625

Thats why I print to a PDF and save articles in my COVID folder on my computer.
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Dear Karl: you ****ing rock! Always an absolute pleasure to read your pages every day. Even if it is an ugly truth. At least we have a big voice in you. And to all the posters in here, your voices are just as big. Im grateful for all of your wisdom. So my only question is: when do the hangings start?

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@Bakerv

I agree it's sheer madness to vex all the military, first responders, EMT's, nurses etc. In times of an external attack on this nation or even an internal natural disaster or manufactured crisis there will simply not be enough people in a position to defend the nation or help the dumbed down masses. Lets face it few are self reliant anymore as witnessed by the way they fall to pieces with every passing rainstorm or blizzard. How many people carry a survival kit in their car in bad weather or even have gloves,hat,boots and appropriate clothing ?

Couple all of this with the next manufactured crisis coming, look up "cyber polygon", and ransom ware being ran against the electrical and energy grids, water treatment, sewage, financial, banking systems ad infinitum and there is a massive **** storm coming on the immediate horizon.


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I literally thought I needed psychiatric help through this. I kept thinking - this can't possibly be right, this violates everything I know about virology, human biology, epidemiology, genetics.
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The lies, the disinformation, the insanity, the corruption, the censorship - I just don't recognize my profession.




Your certainly not alone. I've not recognized this world I am living in for quite some time. It's no longer the world of my youth where a persons word was their bond, there was some semblance of respect that had been earned and honesty in almost all dealings. Now it is deceit, criminality, lies, obfuscation and the "all about me" mentality and to hell with everything else.

Fortunately I have spent most of my life needing few interactions with others and have no desire to seek others approval in what I want to do and how I want to live my life. I have never had too many friends but at least the internet has allowed me to converse with more like minded folks. I have corresponded with some for over 25 years now and still have not met them face to face. I consider them better friends than others I have known my entire life.

Now with the coof madness, my few local friends, who I used to think were half ways intelligent, have become even fewer as some have become consumed with the vex, demanding compliance and "yellow star proof" and demanding that I must go along.

Again my reply is FOADIAF !

When they yell and scream that I won't be allowed to travel or go anywhere or do anything or be around them or their families I simply tell them.

That's fine it's yet another dream come true of not having to deal with *******s like you on a daily basis!

Yet somehow I am being unreasonable and uninformed about reality. All they regurgitate is the MSM propaganda and asshat governor's talking points. I too have been told don't send any more links to coo coo websites and obscure stuff. I said fine but don't bother talking to me and commiserating about all your new issues and strange medical things going on.

Stumbled across this last night. Cannot verify the integrity of it but it sure appears damning when looking into all the prior patents and control of everything from the virus, the testing, and everything about it. Of course there is no surprise that the usual piece of **** names float to the top again and again.


Dr. David Martin gives a deposition to Reiner Fuellmich who is hopefully setting up a Nuremberg 2 type trial.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/FPFE8nQYL....

Another bit with Dr. David Martin with links to a longer movie at the end but I could not get that longer one to download and play.

http://www.google.com/sorry/index?contin....


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Here is another link to the Dr. Martin interview:

https://odysee.com/@FwapUK:1/A-manufactured-illusion.-Dr-David-Martin-with-Reiner-Fuellmich-9_7_21_-720p:5

Holy ****, is this explosive! It sure seems that he has solid, tangible evidence on these evil *******s. If this is all true, the last 20 years have all been an illusion re: respiratory viruses. This videowhich divulges in great and precise detailthe patents, the organizations, and the people directly involved in what could be called the greatest set of crimes ever to be committed in our entire history!

Re: what one can do about the whole ****show that follows, I think the approach taken by some who posted here to get their own situation to a more resilient state, there is a website that promotes these ideas called Peak Prosperity. The posters on that site have been talking about all these non-mainstream COVID-related insights for the last 18 months, much as Karl has.
Worth checking out: https://www.peakprosperity.com/
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Meh.

Wake me up when 1% of the US population will make them stop.

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I had assumed that the vaxx was a simple scam by the drug companies. $70 per course of injections times 300MM people minus liability for adverse consequences equals $21Billion. A typical scam, especially in light of medications like Lipitor, where most people were not helped outside of the few for whom it was a lifesaver. Getting healthy people to take unneeded medication is a great profit center for the drug companies, and pays for all those ads supporting traditional TV. (don't expect drug truth from a TV program that accepts drug ads.) I was OK with this in a sense: it was a scam, but a standard scam, and I was familiar with it.

But I have to reject the profit-driven nature of the overall scam, KD. Yes, we have a corrupted medical system in the USA, which some entrepreneurs are gradually pulling away from (emergency walk-in clinics that don't take Medicare and Medicaid being one: they are not like hospital emergency rooms in that they don't take Federal dollars and so don't have to take anybody, regardless of payment. This will eventually drive all the cash customers away from the hospitals.). Without armed revolution we can still undermine the existing system by dropping out.

The problem is that the numbers in VAERS match results from the mRNA/spike protein therapies in places like Europe, with its different sets of health plans, none of them the American style. Without an incentive to kill people they still did not push the treatments like ivermectin and went the mRNA/spike route, and they have banned conventional vaccines like China's SinoVax, made from killed viruses and so limited in spike protein. The push for the mRNA therapy is independent of the nature of the medical system, and the ignoring of safety data and vaccine rules of thumb (must provide 100x better results; at 9000 deaths, mRNA therapy is now 15x more effective than not being vaxxed) seems universal.

Either the politicians are frightened and stampeded into this course of action, or they've colluded to push the mRNA therapy. I cannot see frightened, as the data are clear that this is not a safe (let alone effective) course of action, and it would frighten me to be the author of such widespread preventable death and disablement. I can see colluded, which leads to the conclusion that the goal has always been to force the mRNA on the populace, not to skim a few more bucks for the medical complex (they just wet their beaks in going along but didn't design the whole thing.)

My wife thinks that the politicians might know something about the virus and that the mRNA therapy is being pushed to prevent a different, deadlier action that they know is coming. I think they're just bought *****s for people who seem intent on killing a lot of the population, but I admit that the possibility is there. Either way, the goal seems to be to have people take this for an unrevealed purpose. Profit is ancillary.
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It's Adobe.

Try to quit, you're ****ed.

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Hanssachs
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ADE? Spellcheck destroys more meaning than it clarifies.

It's convenient to think that they have tried to create a lifelong dependency on injectables. I have relatives who are Type 1 diabetics who can tell you that, with no innovation in medication, the cost of insulin has shot through the roof. Except: crossing the border to Canada (note: the border is closed for 15 months now) buys the SAME medication at 1/15th the retail cost in the USA, I do not expect that the insulin makers are selling at a loss to Canada, just a small, regulated, 20-30% profit.

I'd expect the same with vaccines, especially now that Pfizer has announced that they will require booster shots, which looks like a permanent ~10 billion in added annual revenue, most of it profit. Capitalized at a p/e of 30, that might increase the value of the company by $300bln, and drive up those executive stock options.

But they won't get that gravy train internationally. $300bln in market cap might be incentive enough. This doesn't explain countries like France and others pushing the vaxx, however.
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@Heartlander. I think you may be on to something with respect to a "death wish." My co-worker who took the vaxx expressed "passive suicidal ideation." If she dies, she dies. Her life has been so very difficult these past 18 months that death would be a relief to her and welcomed. Then she went on to tell me she would end up in heaven so it is all good. Now granted, she lost her husband a year ago and just came up on the anniversary of his death, so she may be especially vulnerable right now. But now I am wondering if my warnings to her about the vaxx and potential adverse reactions and longer term consequences was more of an incentive than a disincentive.
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Not ADE, I wrote ADOBE and meant it @Hanssachs.

Go ahead, buy "Creative Cloud." Nice plug-in there for your nice, shiny new Canon camera.

Now try to quit.

There is no boxed, "you own it" set of software that can read that new CR2 file format from the newer camera you bought.

What options do you have?

1. Keep paying at whatever they want to charge -- forever.

2. Have all your existing work become inaccessible without extreme effort, and all your EXISTING Photoshop and similar files containing YOUR WORK PRODUCT are unreadable because the format is proprietary.

What did you just do when you took that shot?

Quit possibly THE SAME THING, except this time its your ass and if you stop as the antibody titers wane you may well get rat****ed by a cross-reaction to either this or some other virus and die.

Oh, and each subsequent shot ALSO risks all the side effects AGAIN.

You think that's not what they did?

The evidence is that this is EXACTLY what they did. Obamacare was THE SAME THING at a macro level; pay or be BANKRUPTED INSTANTLY if you got sick.

Who's fault is this?

Yours. Ours.

We didn't tell the politicians, hospital administrators and doctors to cut that **** out right now and mean it, giving them only two options:

1. Stop it now, voluntarily, and don't try it again.

2. Stop it now because you CAN'T CONTINUE DOING IT AS YOU ARE DEAD AND ANYONE WHO FOLLOWS YOU AND ATTEMPTS TO CONTINUE THIS BULL**** WILL ALSO BE DEAD.

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Ah, I had missed the Adobe link. I only use Acrobat and so far as I can tell I can continue to share PDFs.

I think they like the model of Type 1 diabetes: turn a human being into a life-long dependent on your medication. So much so that Ancel Keyes pushed the anti-fat nonsense, combined with HFCS replacing sugar because of the artificially high price of sugar, and this helped create diabesity in people who weren't Type 1. Cue expensive medications. I think Keyes was wrong and a bad scientist who altered his data to match his conclusions (therefore not a scientist) but I do not see him creating diabesity intentionally. The pharma complex opportunistically capitalized on their new bounty, a feast of tens of millions of living people who could be turned into commodity profits.

But that would benefit countries whose drug companies get the skim: USA, UK, Germany, Netherlands. It will cost countries that have to pay: all others. Now, maybe they've figured out that they profit from things like smoking, which pays more sin taxes and kills people before they collect pensions. So presumably paying countries like France or Belgium would have to figure out that paying an extra $100 per citizen per year would pay off in more rapid death of resource-consuming old people, or else it's a bad financial deal. Of course,if the shots kill young people before their annual boosters then it won't be the cash cow that you've written for the drug companies.

But France and Belgium are also on board the mRNA train. Have they run the numbers, or is the agenda pushing the vaxx, regardless, with profit only an added bonus?( It's also possible that the agenda was always profit in the USA, and we have used our soft and hard power to propagate that to the world, and others are following in an information cascade.) The complete and utter discarding of all previous standards, as with Swine Flu shutdown from Guillain-Barre, tells me this is not driven just by profit. If the FDA approves these in the face of VAERS and worldwide data it could just be profit. I'm going with some larger agenda.
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Karl, didn't you mention that the boosters would likely need a higher antibody titer than the original vax in order to produce enough neutralizing antibodies to be effective, since the non-neutralizing antibodies left behind by the original doses need to be overcome? Would that titer need to be higher every year to overcome the previous year's non-neutralizing antibodies? Because at some point they'd hit the LD50 for injected spike protein and their customers would be screwed either way.
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@Hanssachs - Don't look at the MTS for the last few years.

2018, to be specific, then 2019 and 2020.

You think they didn't do this on purpose?

The hell they didn't -- it was good for $80 billion paid by Medicare to the hospitals for each admitted and intubated Senior on Medicare despite them knowing, before issuing the order, that said "treatment" was useless and they'd die.

That hospitals got paid an extra $80 billion to kill grandma in the first six months of Covid-19 is a fact. The US Government's check register is not supposition or mere allegation -- it is fact.

If they had handed out early-treatment drugs a good part, and maybe nearly all, of that $80 billion would not be in their pocket.

That is also a fact.

They did it on purpose.

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I'd say that it's not solely profit motivated but both political and profitable in motivation. They wouldn't risk the backlash unless there was also a political dimension. By political I don't mean Trump either. I would argue the political aspect is using the profit mechanism to shift even more olitical power into the Healthcare arena. It's a win win for elites to be brutally honest.
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My wife and I went to a friend's house for dinner last night. They are physicians, she's a GP and he's a pulmonologist. The vaccines came up in the conversation and I was asked if I had it and said no. I said I didn't want an mRNA vaccine but would consider one like the normal flu shot based on an attenuated virus. They were shocked that I was opposed to the vaccines and went on a diatribe about how fabulous these vaccines are, even calling them miracle drugs. I mostly talked with the wife who admitted their view is biased because they see Covid patients directly. The husband has been treating Covid patients in the ICU since this all began. I mentioned the lack of long term testing and the deaths and adverse reactions but she was firm in her support of the vaccines. I told her I take vitamin C and D (which she strongly advocated) and I take Quercetin and zinc when I go to social gatherings.
I asked her what she did when a patient called her office with Covid symptoms. She said, as Karl had been regularly reporting, she tells them to stay home, but if they have breathing difficulty, go to to ER. If a patient is high risk, she sends them right to the hospital for plasma with antibodies. I decided not to bother her about Ivermectin, figuring she would not advocate it.

Then I asked her about statins because my doc want to put me on them because of a cardiac calcium score of 100 which is at the very lowest end of "moderate." She said she's put people on statins with lower scores than that, but that she was not a statin fan. She said the research on side effects mostly only looks six months into the future and a lot of people have muscle aches and pains later and tend not to attribute it to the statins. She said, "I'd go full vegan before I'd put myself on statins."
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Through media bull**** policy and eventually physical force they are changing the ownershiop society into the rent-from-the-elite society. including your very existence.
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She said she's put people on statins with lower scores than that, but that she was not a statin fan.


Your friends are not intellectually honest and they have been brainwashed by their profession. The woman may even be evil if she knows the dangers of statins yet still prescribes them.

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@Susanlauren

"passive suicidal ideation"

Ah, so there's an actual term for it. Thanks for giving me words for it; that always helps. I have seen or heard of way too many people who are doing just that -- passive suicidal ideation. Intelligent, smart, accomplished people, with seemingly good lives and, to all appearances, a lot to live for... and they're NOT mindless CNN addicts, so they are often well aware of the risks. AND, they're not the just-giving-in-to-peer-pressure types, either. (I don't doubt that there's a lot of the latter out there, but they're not the ones I'm talking about.) No, it's death wish. You hear it in their words: "Well, I'm gonna die of SOMETHING sooner or later!"

I want to shout, like Aragorn to the men of the West: "BUT TODAY IS NOT THAT DAY!"

Or, like Dylan Thomas to his father: "Rage, rage against the dying of the light!"

I don't know why they choose death... guilty consciences? a wicked spell cast on them by the devil? an overruling of their free will by the most powerful and global hypnotic mass psychotic delusion ever seen in the history of humanity*? some combination of all the above?

Whatever, it is horrifying to witness.

* Perhaps the lightning-fast spread of Muhammad's death cult in the seventh and eighth centuries might be the most powerful such mass hypnosis in history... but even it was not so global as Covidism, obviously. And many, if not most, back then only converted at literally the point of the sword.

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I find it hard to accept that profit was the driver, rather than a free rider on an effort to get people to take the vaxx, to perhaps some larger, more evil end. I really hope it was just another grift for dollars: that's my most optimistic thought.

We are in full agreement that the medical system has become a complete scam no longer primarily concerned with patient health. I'm thinking here of the company that actually cured HepC (for something like $40,000 per patient) and was criticized by Wall Street for that.

Medicare is also the entitlement that's going to take down the entitlement state, so it's plausible that some accounting troll ran the numbers and figured out it was cheaper to pay hospitals to be contract killers. At least they're not openly admitting this yet.

My own parents, well past initial Medicare age, are adamantly refusing any vaxx. They've also not made any precautions, so they might also get the snuff if they get the coof. The ivermectin you've helped me to lay in for myself will also be kept in reserve for them, and I thank you for that.
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