I think we're past the point of arguing using facts. We must use emotions in this battle since this is all emotional to begin with. You cannot win an emotional war with facts.

If I was in that situation, I don't know exactly what I'd do, but it would probably be seen by many as cold and unfair, something that looks out for myself but inadvertently generates major emotional trauma in others. (Since that's what such a stupid/emotional decision inflicts upon rational actors.)

Spanky wrote..

My son-in-law has none of the comorbidities, but is having a really tough time with Covid

One of my employees, a woman roughly 40 years old, with no obvious comorbidities and not an excess pound of weight on her, landed in the hospital for the better part of a week. Hospital staff was puzzled and told her, "You're too young and skinny to be in here like this!" Meanwhile her husband and kids all had mild cases.

This also pushed some of my other employees over the edge, into getting shots.

Bottom line: There will be a small subset of relatively young, healthy people who have a hard time with Coof. There will also be a small subset of people who have a bad time with the shots.

The question I've asked myself is, which will cause me more regret: If I have a bad time as a result of the shots, which I could have decided not to take, or if I have a bad time with the Coof as a result of avoiding the shots?

For me at least, the answer is I'd have more regret in the former case, particularly since my exposure profile and risk of getting the Coof is quite low.

KD wrote..

be aware that OC43 was likely the 1890s pandemic virus.

I'm surprised that those who've been trying to brush aside the lab-leak hypothesis haven't jumped on this with, "See, there's evidence that these things can occur naturally, since nobody was doing gain-of-function research back in the 1890s!"

@Uwe the double-CGG is a tell, among others, that this one was engineered.

@Uwe - It could be as simple as vitamin D levels. Lots of young "healthy" people are eating absolute garbage and most likely are nutritionally deficient in everything. I used to be one of them, long, long time ago.

I think anybody who is depending on the injection to save them has been horribly misinformed.

You don't become vitamin D optimized through diet.

Getting above 40ng/ml won't happen.

It is called Eugenics.

Here is what appears to be the first documented instance of OC43 infection with ADE and/or OAS happening in a vaccinated individual (single dose of Astra-Zeneca). Presented with COVID symptoms, but tested negative. Eventually tested positive for OC43. Patient needed hospital care, but had no previous history of recurrent infections, despite having a number of co-morbidities.

https://academic.oup.com/jid/advance-art....

The authors even dare to ask the right questions.

Quote:

Seasonal coronaviruses such as OC43 in general cause mild common cold or upper respiratory
symptoms, although some patients may develop pneumonia6. Our patients symptoms were severe
enough to require hospital admission for respiratory insufficiency. We are intrigued by the fact that
past COVID-19 and recent vaccination did not seem to provide any protective effect in this case
against coronavirus OC43. There is growing evidence that the clinical manifestations of respiratory
viruses are related to immune interfering mechanisms, which can be particularly important for
epidemic and pandemic coronaviruses7. While current studies have focused on the potential effect
of past coronaviruses over SARS-COV2 infection, to our knowledge there has been no investigation
on the reverse situation, that is, if SARS-COV2 can have an impact on the incidence or severity of
other coronaviruses. The role of antibody-dependent enhancement in human coronaviruses, and for
SARS-COV2 in particular, has yet to be established8. Further studies and epidemiological surveillance
will help to determine if our case is just an oddity or if the current pandemic may yet have other
unexpected collateral effects.

They seem to be suggesting an infection of Covid alone would be the cause of ADE?

Remember early on in 2020 KD theorized that there appeared to be multiple related strains in play.

The order in which you get infected could be beneficial or detrimental.


Cross Immunity may not be like the Commutative Property of multiplication or addition.