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 Science Catches Up -- And Burns You All
Drifter 2k posts, incept 2016-02-11
2021-04-28 16:05:49

@split-- don't trust China. China is assho.

In the news this week, China claimed to have eradicated poverty in a particular province. In actuality, the communist party put faucets in everybody's hovel. Said faucets were not connected to any water supply.

That country should be shunned by every nation on earth.
Splitbiker 34 posts, incept 2007-09-13
2021-04-28 16:05:55

Do you think Taiwan's numbers are bs?
Heartlander 3k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2021-04-28 16:22:08


One more special interest served by Covid: the depopulation fanatics such as Gates, Soros, and various other billionaires, some of whom have been openly saying for decades that the earth's population needs to be cut by 90 percent -- allegedly to "save the planet," but in reality to just make the whole world easier for THEM to totally control.
Zappafan 6k posts, incept 2007-11-30
2021-04-28 16:44:16

So I keep asking myself stupid questions, like why didn't someone with an ounce of integrity insist on telling the vaccinated that they must self-quarantine for 4 weeks after getting the shots? Until T-cell immunity had a chance to rev up?

Instead they just created an idiotic campaign to vax "everyone" including children (even that moron Fauci made no differentiation between the elderly/co-morbid and healthy 16 year olds.)

Without bothering to put caveats and a coherent policy (that paper was out in Jan 2021 ) in place, they've likely killed another 2-300k Americans.

As the death toll from COVID was around 400k back in December before the vaccinations began, IIRC.

Here is a question on ADE - can someone give a layman's summary on how it works?
Riceday 1k posts, incept 2009-10-30
2021-04-28 16:44:43

Couldn't "inhalation or skin contact" be referring just to the accidental inhalation or touching of the "vaccine" by health-care workers who are giving the shots or by workers in Pfizer's production facilities?

I was wondering the same thing, but I don't think that is the case.

From the protocols...
A male participant who is receiving or has discontinued study intervention exposes a female partner prior to or around the time of conception.
A female is found to be pregnant while being exposed or having been exposed to study intervention due to environmental exposure. Below are examples of environmental exposure during pregnancy:
A female family member or healthcare provider reports that she is pregnant after having been exposed to the study intervention by inhalation or skin contact.
A male family member or healthcare provider who has been exposed to the study intervention by inhalation or skin contact then exposes his female partner prior to or around the time of conception
Scottj175 635 posts, incept 2010-09-06
2021-04-28 16:45:17

No as it's not replication-competent. But since it's directly pathogenic it can still **** you up

So at the very least limit exposure to the vaxed until we know more.
Jesjohn94 1k posts, incept 2019-05-07
2021-04-28 17:28:04

Don't hold your breath expecting facts or science to change anything. The vaccinated are going to try and block the unvaccinated doing anything. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Mohawkman 6 posts, incept 2021-04-28
2021-04-28 17:28:13

If that happens those without said existing recognition are very likely to die; we could easily wind up killing 20% of those vaccinated because we were stupid.

Karl, 20% of those unvaccinated (assuming no correlation between existing cross immunity and vaccinated status) would also be likely to die as well, correct? Or what am I missing?
Blattdorf 36 posts, incept 2011-03-06
2021-04-28 17:28:24


The danger of a Marek-type scenario is in how the vaccines will immuno-compromise people (mitigate instead of kill the virus), providing an avenue for the actual virus to persist in the host's body and mutate in ways that would normally kill the host. Slow roll-out of the vaccines gives the virus ample time to slam against the supposed immunity gained from the vaccine.

Now I wonder whether these vaccinations won't simply turbo-charge the virus once it finds someone who took the jab, and just kill the host.

This whole thing is looking more and more dire by the day.
Tickerguy 202k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2021-04-28 17:29:06

@Mohawkman - Maybe.

@Blattdorf - Not likely to get a Marek's disease scenario SO LONG as there is a reasonable number of unvaccinated people. The reason is that propagation of that strain REQUIRES that it be able to circulate without ****ing people, otherwise they get shunned and it dies out.

"Perhaps you can keep things together and advance playing DIE games.
Or perhaps the truth is that white men w/IQs >= 115 or so built all of it and without us it will collapse."
Steph4liberty 2k posts, incept 2010-10-22
2021-04-28 17:54:04

I swear... it feels like we're all living in a Dr. Seuss book right now.


Star = Vaccination

The folks with stars on their bellies sneer down at our lack of stars with contempt.

However, I'm betting most people with stars currently will wish they didn't have them when star-bellied people start dropping like flies. But alas, the star is permanent... you can't "undo" the star you had imprinted upon your belly.

"Man will never be free until the last Banker is strangled with the entrails of the last Politician" - unknown

"This isn't a market anymore, it's a computer game."
Ronniemcghee 569 posts, incept 2012-07-28
2021-04-28 17:54:28

"These cross-reactive peptides showed similarity to common cold coronaviruses, providing functional basis for heterologous immunity in SARS-CoV-2 infection.

I spit out my coffee reaching this one.

Heartlander 3k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2021-04-28 18:18:12


The unvaccinated will not die if they are young and healthy, get sunshine in the summer and take Vitamin D3 the rest of the year.

As for unvaccinated older and high-risk people such as myself, we should be fine so long as we follow the prophylactic protocol for high-risk persons, and if we do get sick, get early treatment!

If our local doctors insist on following the homicidal NIH guidelines and refuse to prescribe what we need, we turn to telemedicine providers:

Nobody needs to die of this f***ing disease, and that has been known, though the knowledge has been criminally suppressed, since nearly a year ago. Don't buy the lie that this disease is a death sentence.

Dr. Ryan Cole (at the first link), Dr. Pierre Kory (leader of the group at the second link), Dr. Peter McCullough (see and others all have stories to share of elderly, diabetic, obese Covid victims who were successfully treated. Numerous testimonies can be found around the 'net from people who were literally at death's door -- and family members begged, pleaded and INSISTED that they be given ivermectin... and improvement was seen within hours, with the patient being sent home, recovered, from the hospital not long after.
Twainfan2 1k posts, incept 2018-12-04
2021-04-28 18:20:49

"we could easily wind up killing 20% of those vaccinated because we were stupid." --- won't hurt my feelings any if it's even 50%. I'll find a way to get by.

I may have missed this somewhere but when I read this article this morning a thought struck me.. is it possible Fraudci's GoF testing added the spike protein to the virus to make it more deadly? Maybe I'm off base there but the talk about China giving us the spike data early on but not mentioning the rest.
Allbases 1 posts, incept 2008-03-10
2021-04-28 18:21:07

Appreciate the info.

1. Any easy way to tell if one's in the 81% with existing T-cell recognition?

2. If there is no way to tell, am I correct in concluding that Covaxin could potentially be useful?

Tickerguy 202k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2021-04-28 18:21:28

1. Nope.

2. Unknown.

"Perhaps you can keep things together and advance playing DIE games.
Or perhaps the truth is that white men w/IQs >= 115 or so built all of it and without us it will collapse."
Riverrat10k 392 posts, incept 2009-10-23
2021-04-28 19:14:45

Brother with cormidmids got the j&j jab.
Complaining aftertwo weeks of arm pain.
Wants to see doc about it

A motion to adjourn and go fishing is always in order.
--me channeling Heinlein
Workerboo 6k posts, incept 2009-03-18
2021-04-28 19:51:34

I have been reading and re-reading this ticker for several hours.

It's a mind ****.

Might be the top 5 tickers Karl.

Thank you!

Our so called leaders are ****ing idiots.

The vaccinated are ticking ****ing time bombs.

Heparin, Eliquis, Xeralto, plavix and aspirin are likely the reason my patients are surviving the jab.

But it's early.

'Keep pushing ****ers, you'll find the trip wire eventually'
~ Quik49

"Every step is a finish line"
Heartlander 3k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2021-04-28 20:04:54


See my comment, with links, two comments upthread from yours.

With ivermectin and other drugs, there is no need for anyone to die of the disease itself. So, why tempt fate by getting this untested, potentially deadly injection that's being pushed by some of the world's worst sociopaths and that has already killed thousands of people and severely injured tens of thousands more?
Jw. 724 posts, incept 2019-10-10
2021-04-28 20:35:48

Beautiful Ticker KD!!! **** yes!

If the idea was to eliminate people for healthcare cost reasons this sure isn't the right way to do it... Seems more like they are working to get even more people into hospitals in the future.

I wonder if getting over COVID means you'll be less likely to get the common cold?

I'm pretty sure I had it Xmas 2019 (coughed up blood for the first time in my life and had a much shorter cold than I have in the last five plus years) and I typically get a decent cold every March but did not get anything in 2020 or 2021.

I also noticed that over the last three years of common colds (2016, 2017 & 2018) I lost my sense of taste, something I never noticed in over 40+ years of colds.

Considering the flu had been at pandemic levels for the two years prior to covid and is 99% gone since covid was introduced i'm thinking more and more that this is all just the flu/common cold repackaged in order to push trillions out of the printing press before the whole thing collapses.

All it took was for people to stop reading... LOL

The spending must continue, until it can't.
Tonythetiger 1k posts, incept 2019-01-27
2021-04-28 21:14:45

Checking the Tote Board ...

Immune System 1

Vaccines 0

Who knew?

"War is when the Government tells you who the bad guy is. Revolution is when you decide that for yourself." - Benjamin Franklin

You can vote your way into Communism, but you have to
Maudite 1k posts, incept 2009-01-21
2021-04-28 21:14:56

@Zappafan Karl made a pretty good explanation of ADE on the thread "The Biggest Mistake We've Ever Made" in a response to Joerob. search on Dengue. I recorded it at the time.

It's been a bad year the next one will probably be worse.
Is there not one thing in your life that is worth losing everything for?
Well if that don't beat the bugs 'afightn.
Mightymosin 191 posts, incept 2020-04-01
2021-04-28 21:43:48

"the presumption from this paper is that nucleocapsid reaction is where you get the best protection;"

I'm guessing this is why they won't take blood for convalescence plasma if you have only have the jab. You have to have had Covid naturally for it to be used so that they have the nucleocapsid.

Were never going to learn how safe the vaccine is unless we start giving it, and thats just the way it goes.
Dr. Eric Rubin, Harvard University
Tickerguy 202k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2021-04-28 21:43:52


"Perhaps you can keep things together and advance playing DIE games.
Or perhaps the truth is that white men w/IQs >= 115 or so built all of it and without us it will collapse."
Pharmadude 252 posts, incept 2020-03-26
2021-04-29 08:15:37

My work is full of PhD "scientists", and >95% are vaxxed. Most would have survived the coof. Wonder how many will survive their blind faith in authority?

In God I Trust -- all others must have irrefutable data and rational logic to interpret the data.

Thank God for folks like Tickerguy.
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