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2020-12-18 06:47 by Karl Denninger
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I truly don't know how much more-clear I can make it than this.  I understand people don't read any more, and they certainly don't do their own research.  Damn near all I do is read when someone tells me something is true; I never take it at face value, especially when, if I'm wrong, I might be dead.  I don't care how many letters you have after your name; with 40 years of writing code for money under my belt I've known far too many PhDs who's degree had its best and highest use as birdcage liner.

Eight minutes is all I ask folks.  All the government's data, not mine. A Medical School's (full of doctors, of course) protocol, not mine.  Two dozen medical studies including ten random controlled trials, the gold standard of medicine with 100% positive results.

Do this and the entire Covid mess is literally over in one week.

No bullshit.

Get your jackets, your posterboard, your big Sharpie Markers and picket the Hospital, picket the local doctor's office, picket their house, picket every damned politician you can find and light up their phones to the point that their voicemail is clogged and useless.  Make every one of their lives insufferable just as they've made yours while they ghoulishly watched your loved ones die, clutching their pearls and clucking at you.  The willful and intentional refusal to do basic elementary school math has killed over 150,000 Americans quite possibly including your grandmother.  Why the hell are you not only letting them get away with it but willing to stand in line and take a not-fully-tested shot when a $2 alternative that does the same thing and has been proved safe over more than 30 years of time is available, and it also has a remarkable record of preventing serious disease and death.   This has been known for months.

We can stop Covid-19 in ONE WEEK.

One.  Not five, six, eight or ten as promised by Dr. Redfield with his "masks" who, I remind you, lied.  Covid-19 did not stop even though he got what he wanted.

The science and the CDC's own data says this will work in ONE WEEK.

And the risk if it doesn't work as the science and math says it will?

STATISTICALLY NONE; the drug in question has had over 3.5 billion doses dispensed worldwide and, on the data, is safer than Tylenol and the number of pills you must take is two.

Not two per day.



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Wifi 13k posts, incept 2013-02-13
2020-12-18 07:16:00

IMO, This among other serious issues that are afflicting our country, to stop it, is going involve violence. The miscreants that have to ability/position to abuse power have done just that.

They see that the populace is willing give easily give up their rights, with little to no resistance.

The pendulum has swung to far, it's stuck hard left, and needs lubricating to break it loose.

"We live in a, ideocracy populated with morons." - Goldbrick

Augeries 430 posts, incept 2019-09-26
2020-12-18 07:48:19


Lubrication you say? Well I can think of a place we can get plenty of that...I hear certain people have blood that runs pretty thin, almost as if they have no souls to give it substance. Would be no great loss, right?

The World is Quiet Here.
Tonythetiger 974 posts, incept 2019-01-27
2020-12-18 07:48:32

@ TG

Sadly, you ARE the crazy guy on the internet. You know, the one who actually looks at data and draws defensible inferences from same.

And based on the retail price of TSC Ivermectin paste, the cost of a single dose is closer to $0.60 than $2. At wholesale prices the goobermint could give every single 'Murican one Ivermectin pill for roughly $200 million. That's a far cry from the tens of billions they're spending on PCR testing and ventilators.

"War is when the Government tells you who the bad guy is. Revolution is when you decide that for yourself." - Benjamin Franklin

You can vote your way into Communism, but you have to
Clyde 179 posts, incept 2009-08-19
2020-12-18 08:19:25

How do you stop the fear when a major Boston newspaper website publishes info like this. Got it in my email.

Headlines are amazingly alarming but when you drill down you see its bullshit,
but I believe that this is the intent. Guess who this Dr is joining, the Biden task force.


Its over Karl, never seen anybody in last 10/11 months do the job you have done
on this, quite remarkable. I'm applauding you right after I'm done typing this.

I have been trying to get the word out on Ivermectin for month or so.
My primary would not prescribe it to me. He doesn't prescribe prophylaxis,
I think the nurse said there were none for covid, wanted to jump thru the phone and strangle the Dr.

Karl time to take a Break from this, maybe do some hiking and skiing if you have any snow in the mountains yet. This will piss you off, the ski lodges will not be open have to stay outside guess they might do outdoor heaters.
Just got a foot here.

Just got the paste. My question is, is there anywhere in the states that you can get the oral 12mg pills. I made some calls and nobody (Dr's) have returned my calls or emails or their own web questionnaire.

I don't give up easily but it gets tougher everyday.
Will continue to read you in whatever topic you choose.


It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.

Samuel Adams
Tickerguy 200k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2020-12-18 08:21:33

I'm not putting up with the shit they're running at the ski places this year. Nope, nope and nope.

My skis will still work if and when they stop being stupid. Until then my money is staying in my wallet and they can all fuck off. I hope they all go broke and everyone who works there starves and is eaten by hungry bears.

"Anyone wearing a mask will be presumed to be intending armed robbery and immediately shot in the face. Govern yourself accordingly."
Whossane 294 posts, incept 2018-01-25
2020-12-18 10:57:41

We have a condo available to us in Steamboat the first week of January but with the restrictions in place, Nope.


No indoor dining, no apres ski, masks required indoor/outdoor, etc. I can't take part in the charade anymore. The only thing worse is watching the self righteous assholes that actually enjoy being compliant.
Egallred 83 posts, incept 2020-08-27
2020-12-18 11:09:05

Nature published this review of Ivermectin against a wide variety of viruses back in June. Covid was the first virus mentioned.


The studies are generally all in vitro so they don't prove clinical benefit. However, they do show areas which warrant further study. I suppose this is why people were trying Ivermectin at all.
Tickerguy 200k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2020-12-18 11:10:40

Yep -- and like I said, I was DEEPLY skeptical originally for a host of reasons related to chemistry. But that the mechanism of action isn't what you think it would be does not mean it doesn't exist. It just means you looked in the wrong place.

As the evidence came in the latter became quite evident.

"Anyone wearing a mask will be presumed to be intending armed robbery and immediately shot in the face. Govern yourself accordingly."
Franco 311 posts, incept 2009-10-06
2020-12-18 11:41:40

Whats happening at ski places?
Tickerguy 200k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2020-12-18 11:44:16

Masks, no inside services so no food or bar, masks in lift lines, no boarding chairs with unaffiliated people etc.

Fuck these people sideways skiing is expensive and I'm not putting up with their shit for a crap experience at full price.

"Anyone wearing a mask will be presumed to be intending armed robbery and immediately shot in the face. Govern yourself accordingly."
Whossane 294 posts, incept 2018-01-25
2020-12-18 11:58:18

Read the covid restrictions. Not my idea of a vacation. Back in the day I could ski all day. Nowadays I need to find a spot to grab a burger and a beer and take a break every now and then. Afterwards, there is nothing to do but hide in your condo for the rest of the evening.
Mangymutt 1k posts, incept 2015-05-03
2020-12-18 11:58:26

I don't care how many letters you have after your name; with 40 years of writing code for money under my belt I've known far too many PhDs who's degree had its best and highest use as birdcage liner.

Expensive birdcage liner.

When societies learn to stop worshiping ANY group of people, it is then that we have finally matured. Especially when it comes to government peoples.

For decades the USDA has put out the food pyramid, where it has been taught and sold as "Healthy". Karl and others have destroyed that narrative, yet even with mountains of proof, "they" still say he is wrong. How many Tickers has he tirelessly written that have not just explained, but factually shown - What we put into our bodies, greatly impacts health.

For decades our government has been "fighting wars" for our safety, drugs, drunk driving and the all important Poverty. 10's of 100's of Billions of yours and your children's money has been spent on these undefinable "wars" that have yet to produce a single success. Much digital ink has been spilled on the pages of Market-Ticker showing/proving personal responsibility leads to greater societal success than all the government intervention combined.

Shutting down small businesses and churches was not a mistake. Droning on and on about the need to wear useless face diapers, is not a mistake. Getting people to comply with social distancing while their loved ones lay in ICU's alone, or parents not being able to experience the birth of their child together, is also not a mistake. How many of us have been made to feel like a leper while out picking up a gallon of milk? Do you honestly believe going to a strip club is ok, but gathering with more than 6 friends and loved at once isn't.

Get your jackets, your posterboard, your big Sharpie Markers and picket the Hospital, picket the local doctor's office, picket their house, picket every damned politician you can find and light up their phones to the point that their voicemail is clogged and useless.

"It's just a shot" - Gates
Mangymutt 1k posts, incept 2015-05-03
2020-12-18 12:25:26

Back in the day I could ski all day.
Although this (PNW) part of the country has some good ski resorts, I have only been on the slops once. WAY, WAY back I dated a girl from Hanford WA, her father was a real life Nuclear Engineer. Although she liked me, the father...He wanted better for his daughter, but also knew enuff about human nature not to force the situation. Good people though.

"It's just a shot" - Gates
Comrader 649 posts, incept 2010-06-10
2020-12-18 12:25:31

I would make a sign but I live in Pa. and I don't think that Gov. Wolfe allows us to use magic markers!
Gymbojim 28 posts, incept 2019-03-08
2020-12-18 12:27:54


A list of doctors in the US and other countries that will do telemedicine and prescribe ivermectin. The
Clyde 179 posts, incept 2009-08-19
2020-12-18 13:07:28

@gymbojim, Unfortunately I tried the Connecticut Dr (closest to me) no luck, called and then filled out his email page on his site, never got back to me.

Ill try him again, then try some others.

Did the tel medicine questionnaire ( rehobeth I think) until they wanted 90$.

looks like its not that easy talking to a Dr and having him prescribe a safe dose. WTF is going on.

It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.

Samuel Adams
Tristan 738 posts, incept 2009-04-08
2020-12-18 13:08:05

Mangymutt wrote..
Shutting down small businesses and churches was not a mistake.

I'm sure many here don't believe in spiritual things, and looking around at the fear and ready compliance, I think many in the church don't believe in them either. As soon as I heard that singing in these church meetings was being targeted, that said to me there is more to all of this than meets the eye.

My experience and understanding is that this singing is not like going to a concert or a party. David wrote in Psalm 22 that God inhabits the praises of his people. In 2 Chronicles 20, Jehoshaphat sends a choir out ahead of the army, and the three armies coming against them all turned and destroyed each other. Joshua conquered Jericho by marching around blowing trumpets. Paul and Silas are shackled up in prison and they start singing and an earthquake shook the foundation of the prison, the doors were opened, and the bindings were broken (Acts 16). Now, I believe it all, and also that the same is true today, but the proof is individual. Point being, whether the implied conspiracy it would take for all of this outrageous deception to be taking place currently--and so boldly and openly--is even humanly possible... there sure is a grand picture being painted by it.

I have no intention of derailing the topic here, just sharing a perspective.

I'm looking forward to the good that comes from all of it.
Reformedhippy 4k posts, incept 2020-07-01
2020-12-18 13:28:07

Thank you for the link @Gymbojim.

I see one doctor listed in Oklahoma - Jim Meehan in the Tulsa area. His reviews and website are definitely compelling. I would consider driving across the state for someone who was willing to question the narrative of the medical industrial complex.

Any of you other Oklahomans heard of him? Seen him?

Jwjw 116 posts, incept 2019-07-13
2020-12-18 13:30:54

@Wifi wrote "easily give up their rights, with little to no resistance."

Yes, and what are you going to do about it? Talk your two minutes at county commissioner meeting? Join a city council working group on _anything_ to get involved and gain influence? Sue your county health department to enjoin their lockdowns and then make them prove effectiveness in court?

I know how much work it takes to stay focused on effective activities. Seems most people want someone else to do their work. Yes, freedom can be hard.

Am trying to get refunds on two supposedly unlimited multi-resort ski passes. Daily limited reservation system so the pass can work that day and lodges effectively closed.
I got a backcountry setup a decade+ ago. A little heavy now, but bomber. Tracks are everywhere this year in backcountry. And hills allow uphill access outside operating hours if your are polite about it.

@Whossane, regarding Steamboat in January, please write the town and county commissioners and let them know your money is not arriving this year. Maybe the newspaper letter to editor, also.
Josephh 17 posts, incept 2020-12-12
2020-12-18 14:27:38

@Tristan Ive been watching events unfold for the past several years. TG is immensely helpful with the facts. My friends with a spiritual perspective help me to keep calm.
Tickergroupie 801 posts, incept 2010-03-24
2020-12-18 14:27:52

Yes. Dr. Meehan is a member of a group that brought a lawsuit against the city of Tulsa's mask mandate. I thought he was very articulate on the subject when I heard him speak.
Whatever came of the lawsuit tho, I have no idea. I have not seen any media mention of it in several months.
I had not seen his name on a list, but it sure wouldn't bother me to ring him up and inquire about an Ivermectin Rx. Thanks for that info.
Royhobbs 33 posts, incept 2020-08-17
2020-12-18 14:47:12

2 questions for TG and anyone else here who may know to help when trying to talk sense into others about this. for instance, the other day I got the "if we would just shut down for 3 months like New Zealand, Taiwan, etc......" I don't have the data on the different countries and what they're doing at my fingertips, but beside the fact that there are more variables than masking and lockdowns, and I know generally there's little to no correlation, here are the questions:

1) is there a site that is cataloging what countries are doing so I can go there and get a quick comparison? like world-o-meter or something does with case #s, deaths, etc.?

2) anyone know if it is the case that there are differences in the way countries are counting deaths and where there might also be a good source of data/proof? for instance, is it the case that the US counts deaths with COVID (and "probable" cases) whereas other countries only report COVID as death if there is no other cause? see graphic for better illustration. if this is the case then even death / case counts are not apples to apples, which I think we all know they are not
Tickerguy 200k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2020-12-18 14:55:30

@Royhobbs --

1. Not accurately, no.

2. Yes but there is no possible way to reconcile that. For instance, it is utterly implausible that all but 5% of flu cases have disappeared -- yet that's what the CDC wants you to believe. Of course if there are no cases there are also no deaths. But, in fact, there are as you and I both know.

The simple reality is that cutting off transmission through "population controls" can work IF (1) you lock the entire nation down, nobody goes in or out and (2) you do it EARLY and then literally lock people in their homes so that NOBODY can transmit out of a household.

But -- it only works if you get it very early because otherwise there are enough chains of transmission that you can't maintain it without letting people go to do things like grocery shop and as soon as you do it gets into ANOTHER house. And once it does you're fucked as it keeps going. Without being able to immediately get testing results back you're doomed because you can't possibly trace contacts before infection has been transmitted to another "pod" (household); by the time you find it the entire fucking house has it and has sent it onward to others!

Once you get to where you need "assembly line, centralized" testing you're doomed. It has to be point-of-care and instant-read AND you need the staffing to immediately trace BOTH DIRECTIONS because the odds are high whoever gave it to you is STILL giving it to other people AND EACH OF THEM LIVES IN A HOUSE! You have to cut off BOTH directions and you just can't do it as soon as you have to send anything out anywhere or queue results to "contact tracers"; it takes too long and once the transmission has happened its worthless.

That's why cutting off the vector is the only SANE option. In March we knew how to cut off the health care side but refused. Other than welding people into their houses literally (which China did) there wasn't an option for the household vector.

IF we had cut off the health care vector early it would have still spread but hurt VERY few people. But we simply refused because they were "heroes", never mind that we know goddamned well you have to do that (e.g. TB, etc) or there's no chance of keeping it from raging through everyone. And it did.

Now we've had a way to do it pharmacologically since mid-late summer, but we refuse to use it. And that is the entire key to ANY disease. It is in fact the premise behind vaccination; it is an attempt to cut off the vectors but instead of being focused on specific vectors it's a "spray and pray" method where you need enough coverage to simulate infection getting everyone. Can it work? Sure, if the virus doesn't mutate and the vaccine both works and is safe.

But if you have an Rt of >1.0 in households and the overall Rt is ~1.3 in the "busiest" areas of the country, and you cut off 0.5 by terminating half the household transmission then it immediately dies because Rt goes to 0.8 or less everywhere.

100 cases -> 80
80 -> 64
64 -> 51
51 -> 40
40 -> 32
32 -> 26


In two weeks the total number of cases drops in HALF and in two more it's down to 1/4 of the number. Since this method also cuts 80% of the death you wind up with 4% of the fatality you were previously experiencing in short order.

It's over.

"Anyone wearing a mask will be presumed to be intending armed robbery and immediately shot in the face. Govern yourself accordingly."

Nickdanger 2k posts, incept 2011-06-12
2020-12-18 15:06:34

The mask mandate is still in place, so I assume the lawsuit saw no traction. Dr. Meehan has regularly appeared on a local radio show, and is very knowledgeable regarding vaccination issues. He receives constant flak from the pro vax and maskhole advocates.

-- I'm in the control group

-- In life, it's important to know when to stop arguing with people and simply let them be wrong.
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