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 The End Of Trump
Oldpool 1k posts, incept 2010-06-23
2020-06-30 15:07:32

these fkers are going to tax your assets since under commieism you cant own property.

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Liberty, Comrade!
Aquapura 3k posts, incept 2012-04-19
2020-06-30 15:07:40

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Basically folks my great-grandparent's age group given that I'm 35 so those that were around to vote for FDR thank you very much for lighting the fuse!!


I'd go back a bit earlier. Technically it was Lincoln that imposed the first income tax to raise funds so gov't could pursue adventures. I know he's lionized today but I truly think he was the beginning of the end. Then comes the 16th amendment, also pre-FDR, and the federal reserve act, again pre-FDR.

As Karl has pointed out OASDI is not the biggest problem in the federal register. I'm opposed to the gov't being a nanny on principal but the die was cast long before the SS Act of 1935, and we only got that because of the great depression which it could be argued only happened because of other gov't interventions.

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I believe come November we could see a repeat of 1992 play out!

I think you have your facts incorrect about Bush Sr's approval. He had +80% approval post Gulf War I in 1991. In 1992 the economy was in a mild recession which was hurting him and he had a strong primary challenge from Buchanan. Then there was Perot, who was the biggest 3rd party candidate in a generation. Bush did not have it in-the-bag right up to the 11th hour. That election was more reminiscent of 1912 where Teddy Roosevelt went 3rd party and we ended up with Wilson, another worthless executive.

2020 is truly history in the making. Not sure I think it'll echo any past contests. Maybe 1860....the last election before something big.

M1919a2 862 posts, incept 2015-07-18
2020-06-30 15:07:44

@Jeepguy

That's the 5th!

You jumped over the 2nd and that's why YOU ARE LOOKING INTO THE MAW OF EXTINCTION!

Gonewest 3k posts, incept 2015-02-26
2020-06-30 15:35:12

@Aquapura, if memory serves correctly, Bush Sr. ran and won his first term on a platform of no new taxes. Then, after taking office, he made a deal with the Democrat congress and raised taxes and that torpedoed his second term.

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An angry man without a country and family and a future COVID orphan.
Step55 213 posts, incept 2009-02-27
2020-06-30 16:13:12

@M1919a2 Although Quinn states

"A decades worth of history has happened in the first six months of this year." It has been only the last four since corona and Covid first visited people's lips and became more than another seasonal flu. A little over a month since "a black man with a long criminal background, high on fentanyl and resisting arrest in Minneapolis, would be killed by a white police thug named Derek Chauvin, who had seventeen complaints against him over his illustrious career"


We still have four months till election day 2020.
Greenrebellion 862 posts, incept 2009-01-03
2020-06-30 16:13:06

All Trump has to do is talk to people on the front lines and end this COVID hysteria nonsense.

Read this, it's fascinating if true - https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/12777....

I can't believe they are locking down some places, this is lunacy. How many more businesses do we have to bankrupt. How much more fear do we need to instill in people getting them to delay elective procedures etc.
Frieza 358 posts, incept 2019-03-09
2020-06-30 16:13:23

Whitehat wrote..
Me thinks that there will be terrorism and it will be attributed to the right-wing/conservatives. In this fashion, the left (communists) can sow fear of the right and then justify their own actions of terrorism and further oppression of the right-wing through the power of the state.
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In about ten years we will be in a global war; they are getting things ready to shift. What we seeing now, even if more messy than they wish, is putting everything in place.

False flag shootings/bombings at the protests? A reasonable strategy for pushing the far left to violence. Normally I'd object that we've seen all of this BLM stuff before and it's always failed to galvanize a meaningful force, but given the economic fuse we just lit they may well be ready to play for all of the marbles this time. I don't think there are enough extremists who'd have the guts to start shooting to achieve a traditional color revolution, even with China providing arms and training. However, even a little domestic terrorism could be used to justify martial law, which could be used to force us further into communism, especially if the leadership turns blue. I think that's a more likely path.

There's another way, though. Just wait for the food shortages to hit these same poverty-dense cities, either from the supply chain disruptions or from runaway hyperinflation a few years down the line. Even conservatives will be willing to accept almost any orderly solution if they're starving in these urban shooting galleries for long enough with no other hope. Rural areas will not be so willing to comply with communist solutions, but in this scenario it's conservatives who'd be forced to make the first radical move, either by simply refusing to comply with new laws (secession in effect if not name) or by starting the fight. Far more favorable to the commie cause, and all they have to do is wait and be ready with their solution once the problem and reaction reach critical mass. This method has a much greater danger of getting out of hand, though. Order out of chaos is a difficult trick to pull, and if the social order breaks down too quickly it may become impossible to implement the solutions. They're certainly arrogant enough to think they could do it, but a combination of both methods (martial law first, then starvation) would be safer.

I agree that we'll see a third world war this decade, and that it will lead us into a very different and much darker era. Win or lose, nothing resembling the United States as we know it will come out the other end. The economic collapse and the social unrest will come first, but I'm still not sure in what order. At the moment it looks like both are advancing together, but I remain unconvinced that this current round of riots won't just fizzle out. We'll see what kind of event we get this autumn. Perhaps it's time to bring Iran back into the headlines.
M1919a2 862 posts, incept 2015-07-18
2020-06-30 17:10:10

@Step55

Your comment is incoherent based on a sentence TAKEN out of CONTEXT!

In my submission posted on page 5 of this Ticker, the last part of which is QUOTE from the LAST PARAGRAPHS of Jim Quinn's Boiling Point therein, you took the first sentence of that quote (which I reproduce below) and fashioned the YOUR Whole Cloth comment.

From M1919a2 submission posted on Page 5 hereof:

"A decades worth of history has happened in the first six months of this year. The next four months are likely to be even more eventful. An election taking place during a civil war has only occurred once in history 1864. The right has not taken the bait thus far. Whether this is a wise choice is to be determined. If the left continue to purposely destroy cities, ruin the economy, while utilizing mail ballot fraud in winning the presidency and Senate in November, the right will be angry they allowed that to happen.

I don't see either side accepting the result on November 4. The real violence will get going before the inauguration in January. Martial law and blood being shed in large quantities is now more likely than not. Throw in a resumption of the stock market crash and this Fourth Turning will really intensify. We've reached the boiling point and those controlling the temperature are still turning it up.

The resolution is uncertain, but it isn't looking positive. Defeating the forces of darkness will require courage, strength, hardness, love of liberty, and a certain amount of luck. If you aren't prepared for whats coming, then start preparing now.

"It does not take a majority to prevail but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." Samuel Adams"

NOT Just saying!

Wakeupcall 8k posts, incept 2009-06-08
2020-06-30 17:10:41

55.7% of those eligible to vote in 2016 actually voted. That was slightly higher than every recent election except 2008 when Obama was running the first time. In 2008 it was 58.2%. The highest turnout in the last 100 years was 61% for JFK.

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"Pfuck Pfizer
"The strongest memory is weaker than the palest ink" Chinese proverb
"The enemy of my enemy is my candidate" Random commenter
"We have the government we deserve"
Wakeupcall 8k posts, incept 2009-06-08
2020-06-30 17:10:46

Meant to add, 138,847,000 people voted. That is one hundred and thirty eight million, eight hundred and forty seven thousand. I dont know on what planet that is equivalent to almost nobody voting.

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"Pfuck Pfizer
"The strongest memory is weaker than the palest ink" Chinese proverb
"The enemy of my enemy is my candidate" Random commenter
"We have the government we deserve"
Frat 12k posts, incept 2009-07-15
2020-06-30 18:04:09

Frieza writes:
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Perhaps it's time to bring Iran back into the headlines.


Whatever DID happen with that explosion last week? And I just saw there was another one from a "gas leak" ...? Things are already getting sporty in Persia.

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We're fucked. There will be no happy ending here; there is no going back to 'normal.'. There are only bad outcomes and worse outcomes. And we don't get to choose those, either.
Austin 226 posts, incept 2008-10-22
2020-06-30 19:48:54

End of Trump ; maybe Jesus will save you
Tickerguy 190k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2020-06-30 19:49:09

Yeah after you're dead.

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The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Jeepguy 442 posts, incept 2020-02-07
2020-06-30 20:31:44

@M1919a2
Was not jumping over anything, trying to keep a long comment as short as possible!

Since you brought it up I'll address the 2nd amendment!

It's real simple, it's only effective if people actually use it, rather than talk about using it on the internet!!

I mean there's plenty of folks who are armed up, they're rightfully pissed off with the crooked Government, and yet they don't do shit!!

Of course no one wants to be that lone nut, nor that lone group of nuts, so no one will (at this time fire a shot?)!!
(Nor take a day off to do so)!

The old saying / theory has been, that by the time people do get together to do something it may be too late!

So really it's pretty much everyone is jumping over the second!!
Jeepguy 442 posts, incept 2020-02-07
2020-06-30 20:35:52

@Aquapura
Well I could back even farther, remember George Washington and the whiskey tax? Yeah that good old whiskey rebellion?
That was when George Washington sent the actual military into Appalachia to kill civilians because they refused to pay this tax on whiskey that they brewed!!

Turns out it was highly illegal, because the military is not to be used as a domestic force, it is not to be used as a domestic police force, meanwhile George Washington was the biggest distiller in the country at the time! Gee I wonder if he paid his taxes?

Yes it is true that Ross Perot did get a lot of support, however it didn't split the vote as badly as some love to imagine it did!

part of what killed Ross Perot's bid for president was the fact that he went strong for a while and then backed out and then came back, he became the unsure candidate!

Perhaps it was fixed back then too! Perhaps Bernie isn't the only one that not only got told to get off stage but perhaps got bought off stage!

Jeepguy 442 posts, incept 2020-02-07
2020-06-30 20:38:45

@Wakeupcall
So my numbers were off, okay but there was approximately 231,556,622 registered voters who did not vote in 2016! Here's an article

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cosmopo....

Of course don't forget to take out all of the fraudulent voting that went on! The numbers get even lower!
M1919a2 862 posts, incept 2015-07-18
2020-06-30 22:11:24

@Jeepguy

Samuel Adams has these immortal words for you -

"If ye love wealth better than liberty,
the tranquility of servitude
better than the animating contest of freedom,
go home from us in peace.
We ask not your counsels or your arms.
Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you.
May your chains set lightly upon you,
and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."

Tsherry 10k posts, incept 2008-12-09
2020-07-01 09:28:12

The media happily does not realize--and by the media, I mean every reporter, cameraman, talking head and all of their bosses, directors, owners--that THEY will be the some of the first targets when the shooting starts.

Either side knows that they will not be reported on fairly or accurately, so why allow the report to happen at all, and why allow it ever?

It's soon time for you to decide on 'live or die.' Which you choose depends on you alone. This means your own life, and the life of others.

I've imagined and written up some fiction that has some lower-case "s" shitstorms.

We have no idea of how bad it will be. Balkans would be a good outcome.

I'm nowhere near that optimistic.

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Fuck Joe Biden with a GIANT RUSTY CHAINSAW.
Jeepguy 442 posts, incept 2020-02-07
2020-07-01 09:28:28

@M1919a2 perhaps there's some sort of miscommunication somewhere because I never said anything never came off to my knowledge that I would love, love wealth more than freedom!

In fact that's been my whole point in numerous articles/comments over numerous months!

Perhaps you're actually in agreement with me and that's why you had posted the quote and I'm not understanding there again maybe there is a communication breakdown somewhere so I asked could you please clarify?
Reformedhippy 3k posts, incept 2020-07-01
2020-07-01 09:28:44

This is my first entry after lurking for some months. After reading so many posts regarding the desire to relocate to more favorable grounds, I was compelled to register and comment. I thank my lucky stars that my eyes have been opened and I have relocated to rural Oklahoma where I raise my own protein. There isn't anywhere else in the country I'd rather be. Recommend entertaining the same idea to you fine folks.
Wakeupcall 8k posts, incept 2009-06-08
2020-07-01 09:28:51

No. There were 231,556,622 eligible voters (according to your source), of those 138,847,000 (roughly) voted. That means that roughly 93,000,000 people didnt vote.


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"Pfuck Pfizer
"The strongest memory is weaker than the palest ink" Chinese proverb
"The enemy of my enemy is my candidate" Random commenter
"We have the government we deserve"
Animal-lover 1 posts, incept 2020-07-01
2020-07-01 10:27:51

I've just about decided to vote for Tulsi Gabbard. Not that it will matter. Tulsi Gabbard is actually an honest politician, that's why they excluded her from the debates. It didn't fit the Deep State narrative for her to get votes from the American public
Tickerguy 190k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2020-07-01 10:28:55

I can't support her political positions in too many areas, with the worst of them being support for direction violations of the Constitution which, I remind you, is good for a stint in Leavenworth given her military status. And no, your oath does not expire.

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The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Cfisher 19 posts, incept 2019-07-27
2020-07-01 10:38:58

People voted their representatives in on a local level. It is smart of the Chief of the Executive Branch of the Federal government to restrain from imposing his will unconstitutionally on State and local governments (notwithstanding his "emergency powers"). No one here would like it if a Democratic president treated this country like a kingdom. Let it play out. Let the people see how their local representatives handle things.

And for goodness' sake, most presidents serve 8 years. Reserve your final judgments for 2024, and then condemn the man if you choose. For now, you can only criticize a job in progress.
Tdurden 1k posts, incept 2015-01-29
2020-07-01 13:51:30

@Tickerguy
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I have a decent stash of Lavavulin and Glengoyne..


Working on my own stash of Glenmorangie.

And vodka. Lots of vodka. Might make good barter material.

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"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next 10 generations that some favors come with too high of a price." -Vir Cotto Ba
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