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2016-04-05 10:51 by Karl Denninger
in Politics , 497 references Ignore this thread
Told 'Ya So (Remittances) *

What did I say when Trump first put forward The Wall for Mexico, and Mexico said "we won't pay"?

I said the solution is simple: Cut off remittances.

And now?

In the memo, Trump said he would threaten to change a rule under the USA Patriot Act antiterrorism law to cut off a portion of the funds sent to Mexico through money transfers, commonly known as remittances. The threat would be withdrawn if Mexico made “a one-time payment of $5-10 billion” to pay for the border wall, he wrote.

smiley

PS: Oh sure, there would be litigation.  But it's litigation I suspect Trump would win.  What would be even more amusing would be to both do it administratively (drawing said lawsuit) and then send up a bill to The House and ask them to pass it explicitly authorizing it.  That would force Congress to go on the record -- either support illegal invaders as policy or pass the bill into law.  If they pass the bill that moots the litigation at the same time...  smiley

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Themortgagedude 12k posts, incept 2007-12-17
2016-04-05 11:11:31

And I thought he was dead to you? If he does enough stuff right might he still be worth your vote?

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I think its time we ask ourselves if we still know the freedoms that our founding fathers intended for us. Ronald Reagan 1964
Tickerguy 187k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2016-04-05 11:12:09

Unlikely. Anything is possible, but I've seen nothing that has changed my mind as of yet.

I still report on politics, you know.

For now anyway.

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NASA faked out a computer instead of running the test.
Then tried to launch and aborted instead of going "BOOOM!"
Did they abort the JABS after faking THOSE tests?

Themortgagedude 12k posts, incept 2007-12-17
2016-04-05 11:15:56

I wish he'd also come out in favor of enforcing the Immigration Reform Act. You fine the hell out of a few employers I have a feeling that millions of illegals will be without work and on their way home.

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I think its time we ask ourselves if we still know the freedoms that our founding fathers intended for us. Ronald Reagan 1964
Tom_servo 172 posts, incept 2015-07-14
2016-04-05 11:17:06

Reading the comments on that article make me sad knowing that is actually how those people really think... They can't be ALL paid social media bots, can they?

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Growing my own food is my ../.. to the system.
Tickerguy 187k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2016-04-05 11:16:46

Again, RULE OF LAW.

The Executive can take care of this problem without new laws. Start throwing executives in prison and this crap will stop INSTANTLY.

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NASA faked out a computer instead of running the test.
Then tried to launch and aborted instead of going "BOOOM!"
Did they abort the JABS after faking THOSE tests?
Themortgagedude 12k posts, incept 2007-12-17
2016-04-05 11:28:19

Yep. You really don't even need a wall to keep out the ones taking our jobs. The wall really only needs to be there to stop criminals.

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I think its time we ask ourselves if we still know the freedoms that our founding fathers intended for us. Ronald Reagan 1964
Tickerguy 187k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2016-04-05 11:29:27

BTW when it comes to "home contractors" and similar it's trivially easy to enforce as well since in nearly all states you have to be licensed and permits have to be pulled along with a notice of commencement if you're doing it for money (that is, on other than your own house.)

You thus know who runs the company and where the crews are. Not hard.... toss a few company owners in prison and suddenly there will be no illegal Mexican roofers left.

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NASA faked out a computer instead of running the test.
Then tried to launch and aborted instead of going "BOOOM!"
Did they abort the JABS after faking THOSE tests?

Themortgagedude 12k posts, incept 2007-12-17
2016-04-05 11:58:10

Yep. And if you see enforcement you will see tradesmen turn in the offenders as well. An illegal roofer drives down the salary of a carpenter as well. People don't get it but it does. Supply/Demand. If you can't get a job as a roofer you go into another trade.

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I think its time we ask ourselves if we still know the freedoms that our founding fathers intended for us. Ronald Reagan 1964
Themortgagedude 12k posts, incept 2007-12-17
2016-04-05 11:58:36

Employers who fail to fully comply with IRCA face significant legal, financial and public relations risks. Non-compliance, whether intentional or simply caused by oversight, has severe consequences imposed by DHS, as well as the potential of a corporate image tarnished by negative publicity. Unfortunately, most employers are unaware that they have a problem with Form I-9 employment verification requirements until they are audited by governmental authorities. By that time, it is generally too late to undo the damage.

The following is a partial list of federally mandated fines:

For employers who fail to properly complete, retain, or make I-9 Forms available for inspection, fines range from $100 to $1,100 per individual I-9.
For employers who knowingly hire or knowingly continue to employ unauthorized workers, civil penalties range from $250 to $11,000 per violation.
For employers engaging in a pattern or practice of knowingly hiring or continuing to employ unauthorized workers, fines can be as much as $3,000 per employee and/or 6 months of imprisonment.

source - https://www.formi9.com/Law.aspx

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I think its time we ask ourselves if we still know the freedoms that our founding fathers intended for us. Ronald Reagan 1964

Tickerguy 187k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2016-04-05 12:00:56

Incidentally it is trivial to audit this via public information. Tax deposits are typically required within DAYS of payroll being paid out, and now it has to be done electronically (back when I ran MCSNet we had to run to the bank with the slip to make the deposit, now it's all online.)

The government thus KNOWS exactly how much was paid (from the tax deductions; Medicare is ratable, so the wage paid is instantly known via simple division) and to what SSN. This in turn means that game-playing is ALSO instantly able to be figured out and by the way Notices of Commencement filed with the building departments are public record so.... there you go.

Knowingly employing illegals is bad but TAX EVASION is a VERY serious federal matter and you can and will go to prison for it, not to mention having the IRS show up and literally chain your business door closed.

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NASA faked out a computer instead of running the test.
Then tried to launch and aborted instead of going "BOOOM!"
Did they abort the JABS after faking THOSE tests?

Ckaminski 6k posts, incept 2011-04-08
2016-04-05 12:57:39

Quote:
literally chain your business door closed.


Not the IRS in my case, but workman's comp. Two business's run out of the same house, but because we structured the newest one as a C-corp and not an LLC we didn't get exemptions from workman's comp, even though we had no "employees" at the time.

Grrrrr.

The government stooge didn't believe my dad when he showed up with the cease and desist - my dad's business most definitely had employees.

Don't mess with the Tax Man if you want to stay in business.
Dudefish 216 posts, incept 2010-02-20
2016-04-05 12:57:51

The President could also order the IRS to stop issuing tax ID numbers to illegal aliens. That's a "workaround" that I understand is well-trodden.
Tdurden 1k posts, incept 2015-01-29
2016-04-05 12:57:57

In the event of a Trump presidency, you can bet this will be part of the machinery that BOTH wings of the uniparty will smash on the way out. I can just see obama, mcconnell and ryan meeting in the map room laying out the legislation that they will fast track for obama to sign to remove as much power from the executive that they can. In fact, I would fully. expect them to give obama his supreme court pick just for spite. Doubtful we'll get to find out since, as I have said for months, the gop has now openly said they will cheat and change the rules to screw Trump. A bigger "fuck you!" to the voters I can't imagine. At what point do we need to start talking about treason being a real, actionable offense?

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"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next 10 generations that some favors come with too high of a price." -Vir Cotto Ba
Tdurden 1k posts, incept 2015-01-29
2016-04-05 12:58:07

Quote:
Yep. And if you see enforcement you will see tradesmen turn in the offenders as well.


I remember hearing another twist on that one. Some roofing contractors would work a crew of mexicans like a pack of rented mules and when it got close to payday, call an anonymous tip to INS so they would get rounded up and deported before getting paid. Not sure if I believe the stories of that, but it's a hell of a way to cut labor expenses.

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"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next 10 generations that some favors come with too high of a price." -Vir Cotto Ba
Mekantor 172 posts, incept 2009-01-12
2016-04-05 12:58:10

Nice one for DJT.

Can't believe they published a crap photo of a crumpled piece of paper. Does the Wash Post not have a scanner?
Wakeupcall 8k posts, incept 2009-06-08
2016-04-05 13:14:46

He will never be the nominee.

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"Pfuck Pfizer
"The strongest memory is weaker than the palest ink" Chinese proverb
"The enemy of my enemy is my candidate" Random commenter
"We have the government we deserve"
Sandyinflorida 98 posts, incept 2015-08-12
2016-04-05 13:56:10

thanks for that prediction, Nostradamus.

Let's just see how the primaries go first.

if china can get a big fence built, so can we.
Goldmanssack 4k posts, incept 2009-07-08
2016-04-05 13:56:17

@TMD, those are not what I would classify as significant risks. Wake me when we start jailing the bastards the very first offense of knowingly hiring illegally. Fines only line pockets.

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"There's a signpost on the corner, and it keeps everybody safe. We were all made in the shade." Greg Graffin, The Defense
Bigdaddy63 431 posts, incept 2008-01-18
2016-04-05 13:56:21


Quote:


Hate to break it to you, but he will be the next POTUS.
Bigdaddy63 431 posts, incept 2008-01-18
2016-04-05 13:56:24

Hispanic's finally waking up to Lying Ted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wdxDwkc....
Themortgagedude 12k posts, incept 2007-12-17
2016-04-05 14:06:30

Goldman - 6 months jail time will wake the bastards up. So will $11,000 per violation. That's bankrupt a guy type money who hires 20 illegals to mow lawns or roof houses.

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I think its time we ask ourselves if we still know the freedoms that our founding fathers intended for us. Ronald Reagan 1964
Ktrosper 5k posts, incept 2010-04-06
2016-04-05 14:22:29

Can't you hear the squeals of the bleeding-hearts echoing throughout the land as they lament, "BUT WHAT WILL COME OF ALL THE CHILDREN WHO ARE DEPENDENT UPON THOSE REMITTANCES!!!!??? THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!"

And of course, they'll show a billion pics of impoverished, starving kids..

You heartless fucking bastards.

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The unexamined life is not worth living.-Socrates
The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law.-Aristotle
Liberty exists now in the spaces government has not yet chosen
Themortgagedude 12k posts, incept 2007-12-17
2016-04-05 15:42:42

A friend of mine thinks I'm nuts to support Trump. He's a divison head at Monsanto. I wouldn't expect anyone at Monsanto to be for Trump. They will probably get hurt more than anyone if he wins. But I generally think he believes globalism is good. Not just for him and his company but for everyone.

Personally growing up in flyover country I can attest to how it's killed small towns.

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I think its time we ask ourselves if we still know the freedoms that our founding fathers intended for us. Ronald Reagan 1964
Ostriches 286 posts, incept 2009-10-28
2016-04-05 16:53:33

In addition to those businesses that "employ" illegals, I would also suggest fining individuals that hire illegals in order to, for example, perform work in and around their homes, without first reasonably establishing and verifying that such individuals are authorized to work in their respective states and in the US as a whole. Perhaps a bounty could be awarded as well.

The reason for this is that, for example, where I live outside of our nation's capital, regardless of whether they self-identify as Democrats, Republicans, or Conservatives, most of my neighbors have absolutely no qualms with hiring illegals. These illegals do not work for American employers, but operate their own small businesses off the books doing any and all of housecleaning, yard maintenance, home maintenance, construction and remodeling work, etc. - just about anything one could think of. Need a tree taken down? Don't call the arborist or the accredited tree service, Miguel will climb up there with his chain saw, do it for $200, and even take out the stump. Need your yard weeded/mulched? Don't call the legitimate lawn service, Jose will do it all for $250. Need help moving? Just hire a few guys standing outside of home depot - who cares if they see all of the shit you own and also know where you live.

IN any event, one would think that given that 95% of my neighborhood is comprised of active/retired government workers (current/former members of government unions) or active/retired military, that each of my neighbors would be patriotic, rule of law types vehemently against the hiring of illegals, but alas, the truth is far from the case - they hire them wherever and whenever they can!

It is only us - the only people in our neighborhood that work solely in the private sector, who refuse to hire the illegals.

So, the way I see if, the problem is not just "the employers," but is more appropriately in the collective mirror of the American people.

Stop hiring them and they will return

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