If you'd like to have a one-word answer to Trump's refusal to disavow "Warp Speed" (and the outrageously false claims made for its "progress"), or for that matter January 6th, all you need is in fact one word: Ego.

Nowhere was it better on display than just recently when he attacked Ron DeSantis, for "not waiting his turn."

This is, I remind you, the very same argument Hillary Clinton made in 2016: It was her "turn" to be President.

Well, that didn't work out so well, but the ego element was clear there as well.  Email server in the bathroom anyone?  A rank violation of law too, even ignoring the classified information issue, in that executive members cannot conduct business "privately" outside of the view of oversight.

But of course Hillary did, and then there's the infamous "What difference does it make (now)" line.

What drives all this?  Ego.

Simply put Trump is incapable of admitting he was wrong.  Yet every one of us is in fact wrong at some point in time.  The best thing to do from a standpoint of progress personally is to admit failure rapidly when it becomes evident you probably are wrong, stop doing the wrong thing and do something else.  That limits losses -- and as anyone who has ever made progress at anything over time knows the key is to win more than you lose.

January 6th happened because Trump could not come to the conclusion that he, personally had to get out front as early as the second week of November and do whatever he had to in order to prove he was right.  Yes, that would have formally been "lawless" but only if he was wrong.  If he was right then the acts of lawlessness were immaterial because the greater lawless behavior had no other redress and on balance he would have still been President.  The problem with that course of action, of course, is that if he failed to prove it -- not just "show it", but prove it by irrefutable evidence -- he was going to prison forever at best and might get the federal needle.

He knew this.  But he also couldn't, as Nixon did, face his ego and admit that while he might believe he won he wasn't sure enough to bet his own freedom on it.  There was, in that context, only one correct action: Stand down.

But to do that you have shove you ego into the back seat.

He couldn't do it.

Likewise if he had listened to skeptics about "Warp Speed" and the fact that developing, but not conclusive evidence started to show up that there was a reasonable probability the jabs would not work, would cause great harm or both the only rational action was to force deferral until you can prove it up.  But doing that required shoving your ego in the back seat and accepting the possibility you were wrong.  Trump couldn't do that.

Now he's doing it again with DeSantis.

I'm no fan of DeSantis specifically because he's dangerous as he is much more-cunning and able to play for position than Trump ever was in any context.  Trump's primary "weapon" historically hasn't been innovation or even triangulation; it has been pure bluster.  If you want an analog it's the used-car salesman on steroids.

Most people full of ego to that extent eventually destroy themselves and any possibility of a comeback.

Hillary did and you're seeing it right now with Trump.

How soon everyone forgets....

If they didn't there'd already be a pitchfork parade outside the US House.

After Obamacare passed and the GOP subsequently took control of the chamber it voted more than fifty times to repeal the law.  During all of those times the Senate and/or White House was under Democrat control -- specifically, Obama in the latter case.  They knew damn well they had neither the votes to override his inevitable veto and the bill would likely never reach his desk in the first place.

Then Trump showed up.  On January 12th, 2017, with a House, Senate and GOP President the bill was voted down.  Three times in the Senate votes failed, with a Republican President (who would have signed it, of course.)

You can blame whatever you'd like for that, but the facts are that the GOP has never actually meant it otherwise it would not have taken 50 knowing-will-fail votes, all of which did nothing but give them something to solicit you for money upon.  When the tables were turned and in fact the GOP held both majorities and the Presidency the fact that they had solicited said money under false pretense was laid bare on the table.

Now we are back with the same claims that the GOP is going to "save America."

Don't get me wrong; I like the House rule changes, such as they are.  But exactly none of them are going to turn into the sort of thing that the House can actually do, irrespective of what the Senate or White House wants.  You see, if the House really means it when it comes to a specific legislative thing it has the absolute power to force it to be enacted.  This is the design of the US House and intended by the Founders.

How?

It's quite simply really: All spending power comes from the House.

Article 1 Section 7 says:

All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

All spending must of course come from revenue and thus the House must originate all such bills.  Just in case you think they can get cute with this by attempting to deficit spend without a bill that raises any taxes the Founders considered this threat and foreclosed it in Article 1 Section 9:

No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.

No appropriation, no capacity to spend.

At all.

Therefore, since the House must introduce said bill, and the House and Senate must both pass said bill, even if the Senate demands something or the President does the US House can absolutely stop not just that spending but all spending unless it gets what it wants.

Yeah, that's a nuclear-level threat -- but its real, and it can't be overridden.

So the next time you're told that Congress "can't" do something, or that your specific Representative could not band together with others to do something, whatever it might be, they're lying.

Yes, they can.

They're refusing, not unable.

Never forget that no matter what the subject of debate is.

Don't kid yourselves folks, there were substantive changes that came out of the US House speaker "fight."

This came across my feed before the final votes, so I can't vouch for it.  But enough of it was leaked that I suspect its real, and any attempt to not follow through by McCarthy is likely to lead to an endless set of motions to vacate the chair, which is a privileged motion and stops all other activity in the chamber until disposed of.

McCarthy really didn't want that threshold to be one Representative, but absent agreement he was not going to be Speaker and it was quite-clear as the days wore on that those who were opposed were not going to bend no matter how much he yelled or threatened them.  He had no choice but to consent.

That request is not radical; it in fact is how The House has run for most of the last hundred years.

It exists for the specific purpose of putting a stop to the Speaker abusing his or her position in that if you run crap like refusing to allow floor amendments the Representative(s) that you anger can tie the chamber up in knots until you cut it out.

The Speaker, in short, is not King yet that is exactly how it has been treated since the 2016 elections.  Pelosi turned that into an art form; exactly zero non pre-screened amendments were allowed to be offered on the floor during her tenure.  She's not alone; Ryan did the same sort of thing and the reason the "one vote motion" rule was killed when Pelosi got the gavel was that members of the House repeatedly attempted to eject him from the chair for doing it.

Restoring that capacity is absolutely a good thing.  The House is a body of 435 members and in order to represent the people members must be able to proffer both legislation and amendments.  If you cannot do so without the prior approval of one person then there is no representation of the people at all; we have what amounts to a monarchy in the US House.  Legislation can be forced onto the floor for vote out of committee by a discharge petition but if you can't offer amendments then half the process is absolutely held hostage to the whim of one individual.  This should have never been allowed in the first place and it was the big sticking point with McCarthy.

He didn't give this up willingly so we shall see whether he actually conceded to the point of view or whether he "conceded" only until he could find a weapon with which to politically kill his opponents.

The other changes are just as real but secondary.  I find nothing objectionable in any of them but as I noted I would have insisted on more: Legislation barring Executive-declared emergencies of any sort beyond 72 hours past when the House and Senate can convene (whether they actually do) and a bar via rules change on remote appearance and proxies; if you're a member you must be there to either vote or count in a quorum.

The former requires legislation as the House cannot issue an "operating rule" against anything beyond its own chamber.  However, the former is once again nothing special and in fact how The House has conducted business since the first days of our Republic.  It is notably missing unless I've overlooked it buried in there somewhere via an obscure mechanism (e.g. a reference I didn't run down correctly.)

I'll add two more to the list I've mentioned before, both of which can be done by House Rule and the "72 hour rule" goes a tiny step toward one: One business day must pass after a bill comes to the floor before you can vote for each one hundred pages of legislation, consecutive with all others docketed at the time of introduction (to prevent gaming that by introducing 10 4,000 page bills at once) and Omnibus bills are absolutely banned; the budget must go through regular order in each and every case.

The former's purpose is obvious (no more "vote first, see what's in it later" games) and the second puts a hard stop on The House diddling around and forces them to actually do their work on the budget and pass the bills required by September 30th of each year or the government is called to full stop, including all mandatory spending.  Yes, that includes Social Security, Medicare and the light bill for the Capitol building and White House.  Failure to act as required would lead to the risk of an immediate revolt by the people and that means they'll do their job rather than screw around.  The House has one job above all others and that is to pass the budget because per the Constitution they have the sole power of the purse in that all spending must originate in the House which means all tax and spending authority rests there -- and only there.  We've allowed this absolute Constitutional requirement to be gamed for far too long and we must put it back.

Nonetheless -- this is in fact progress.

Now let's see how much of it is real.

One of the problems is that functionally none of it, at present, is real.  Literally zero.  This is the same issue that arose with Obamacare; the GOP voted up repeal time after time, knowing that The Senate would not concur and if it somehow did the President (who's name it bore) would obviously veto.  As soon as that was no longer true, in 2017, the votes instantly stopped.  This is absolute proof that exactly zero of the persons in that chamber prior to 2020 ever intended to repeal Obamacare; they lied from the first day about their intentions.

May I remind you that McCarthy was first elected to Congress in 2006 and held a leadership position in the Republican Party caucus since 2009 -- that is, for the entire period of Obama's Presidency forward.

You have to give Andrew Yang credit for being willing to put forward "UBI" -- a $1,000 a month "stipend" that he foolishly calls a "Freedom Dividend" -- with of course a boat-load of fraudulent claims of how he's going to pay for it.

Chief among these is a 10% VAT -- which sounds good, but it's problematic for a whole host of reasons, not the least of which is that it won't raise enough money.

Remember that a VAT exempts government spending, since that's just taxing yourself.  Yang recognizes this and pegs the revenue from a VAT at $800 billion as he also removes groceries, clothing and apparently some other things from it.

He also says he's going to "consolidate" (get rid of) many other welfare programs.  The problem is that the only ones that matter from a budget perspective are health care related.

At the same time Yang wants to expand Medicare to everyone.  The problem is that these two programs are in direct opposition to each other.  He says he'll be able to bring costs under control but Medicare and Medicaid have utterly failed to do so.

In other words Yang is a pie-in-the-sky Democrat protecting and in fact expanding the medical monopolists.

Look folks -- CMS -- Medicare and Medicaid Services, have spent $1.465 trillion through August which is 35% of the federal spending all-in.  The federal budget deficit during that time was $1.067 trillion.

In other words that spending was 137% of the deficit.

If you killed all the medical monopolists and took the "low hanging fruit" as I described in that post you would erase the entire federal deficit, plus some and not one person would be denied medical care.

Further, you'd take roughly another trillion and a half off private forced spending on this alleged "service" since the "service" is 500% overpriced.

This would instantly resolve both the federal debt and all the state and local pension problems -- at once.  It would also eliminate the destruction of personal purchasing power and that of saved funds.

20% of the people in the country -- those who are involved in and require this scheme to make a living -- would hate you.

EVERYONE ELSE WOULD VOTE FOR YOU.

In short this is one of those nearly-impossible to find 80% issues among the electorate.  That's exactly what Trump exploited (a claimed 80% issue that he never actually addressed) to get elected himself -- illegal immigration and displacement of American workers.

He was lying, as we now all know in that instead of resolving any of these problems he has dripped out half-measures where, as the head of the Executive he could have resolved several of them immediately but that sales job is why he's President today.

Yang seems to think that socialism will somehow "work" in health care.  It never has -- in health care or anywhere else.  NHS in Britain is falling apart.  So are the other socialist health care systems.  They're falling apart even though they exist almost-entirely on the back of the 500% overcharge Americans pay in that we effectively fund the R&D and in many cases the reproduction cost of everything they use.  Even with that sort of outrageous transfer and theft they're still fiscally underwater.

Yang could have -- and perhaps, for a very short period of time forward still can -- become a credible candidate.  He needs an 80% issue -- indeed, anyone who intends to try to take on Warren, Bernie or Biden does, just as I've argued for decades that if you want to try to run as a third-party candidate you need to as well.

Remember Ross Perot?  He took up an 80% issue -- the giant sucking sound of "tariff free" trade with Mexico.  Had he not folded his tent he would have likely won too.

There are so many other crackpot ideas on Yang's plate that frankly, I can't take him seriously.  The "vote at 16" idea is one of them.  Representation comes with responsibility, or at least it's supposed to.  Yang is nothing more than pandering with this bullshit -- if my kid can vote at 16 I can eject him or her at 16 and they can go fend for themselves.

There are acts that should define you as an adult in all respects.  Reproduction and Felonious conduct are two of them.  Voting is a third.  Today we refuse to recognize that exercising the most-profound power a human can have -- to reproduce or not -- does not come with the responsibility commensurate with that power.  This must change and since slavery is immoral (never mind illegal) there's only one direction it can that is consistent: Pregnancy, for both sexes, is an automatic and irrevocably emancipating event.  So is a felony conviction.

Further, Andrew is a pie-in-the-sky economic bullshitter.  "Saving for retirement", which is one of his planks, is impossible in a nation where the federal government runs a 25%+ fiscal deficit and thus destroys the value of all saved capital.  This has to be stopped -- or those who both promote policies that allow and expand that practice must be removed from the public square by any means necessary.

Fortunately for Andrew there is a way to stop the deficit spending and get the 80% issue and greatly improve health care delivery while slashing cost by 80% or more.

But he hasn't taken it -- just like the rest haven't either.

That's because he doesn't really believe in any of it, just as neither do the others -- including our current President.

Sadly they're all bullshitters and con artists.

Here's what you get if you basically draft me, since I don't fit either the RINO or Communist party profile:

• Wage, environmental, IP theft, government oppression/subsidy and currency manipulation tariffs.  There will be zero incentive for any entity selling to anyone in America to place manufacturing or anything else (assembly, sourcing, etc) in a foreign nation to try to arbitrage poor people, dump poison in their water, into the air or on their land instead of here, etc.  Each class of goods will have the appropriate tariff calculated on a per-nation basis with no exceptions.  Any nation or firm attempting to circumvent this by cross-shipping or falsifying records will lead to an immediate, 100% embargo of all involved goods with them seized and destroyed on entry.  Again -- no exceptions.  Yes, this includes (but certainly isn't limited to) China, Vietnam, India and Mexico.
  
  
• 100% E-Verify now.  All employers have six months to comply for existing employees, all new hires must have it run.  Liability is personal and cannot be thrown off on a staffing company or other scheme.  All 941s (quarterly withholding filings) must include E-Verify control numbers on them.  Congress will receive a bill on my first day in office to upgrade failure to include same on 941s, hiring or paying people without reporting accurately on same, or any other form of evasion by any means to a criminal felony with 5 years in the slam-slam for each person so not-reported or evaded, served consecutively, with no pleas or reductions allowed along with a $50,000 fine per person, per year who is not reported accurately.  That ends the BS.
  
  
• It shall be the policy of this nation that no free trading relationship nor normal customs and immigration relationship shall exist with any nation that permits either their nationals or foreign nationals to travel through or use their border with our nation for the purpose of unlawful entry into the United States, nor shall such a relationship exist with any nation that suborns or permits its nationals to violate our laws whether in regard to people, goods or services.  Mexico in particular shall cut this crap out or the border will be closed -- period.  The National Emergency required to do this has already been issued by Trump and I will execute on that on my first day in office.  This shall also be applied to China as a consequence of its export of fentanyl and precursors intended for unlawful distribution in the United States.
  
  
• H1b visa sponsors shall be required to pay 200% of the prevailing wage in America.  If there is truly a shortage or is being used to import those who are truly exceptional minds, to the point that we simply can't meet the challenge here, so be it -- the cost of doing so compared to the benefit will be tiny.  If this visa is being abused by corporations a wage suppression artifice, and today it is, that's ending.  Right now.
  
  
• As President my first and foremost duty is to protect the integrity of the United States.  This includes physical security at the US border.  If necessary the military will be deployed to defend same against any and all invaders.  Our military exists for the primary purpose of preventing and repelling any attempted invasion of United States territory.  This is not only Constitutionally permitted it is Constitutionally required of the Commander in Chief.  This does not violate The Posse Comitatus Act; the military will not be there to execute a civilian police action, they will be deployed to prevent and turn back invasion.  If you want to come and apply as an immigrant, whether claiming asylum or otherwise, do it lawfully at a port of entry or US Embassy.
  
  
• 100% enforcement of 15 USC Chapter 1.  Amazon is the poster child in the retail space but hardly the only offender.  The entire medical space will also have this enforced against them.  See my model bill for how to fix it entirely.  Until passed I'll be content to throw lots of hospital executives and virtually every pharma company head in the slam-slam and destroy every one of their firms with ruinous fines.  Yes, as the head of the Executive (law enforcement) I can do that without ANY new laws, and will.
  
  
• 100% legalization and regulation of marijuana immediately by de-scheduling.  The DEA is under the DOJ, and as the head of the Executive I'm their boss.  THC will be de-scheduled immediately.  Period.  In addition a full review of the medical and scientific evidence will be undertaken for every drug currently on said schedule and they shall be adjusted accordingly.  No ifs, ands or buts.  States can do what they wish but on a federal level it's done on Day #1 and I will fire as many people as necessary and replace on an interim basis until it happens.
  
  
• BEA and BLS will be directed to remove all "hedonic" and similar adjustments immediately and permanently.  As they are under the Department of Commerce and Labor, respectively, they too are under the Executive.  Therefore said order will be issued on Day #1.  Inflation numbers shall have all hedonic adjustments removed immediately and on a forward basis, and in addition productivity shall be removed from inflation numbers as well.  That is, inflation is inflation and we're going to stop lying about it.
  
  
• The Fed will either adjust policy to meet its mandate of stable prices over the medium term or I will do whatever I must to destroy and replace it.  Period.  They do not have the privilege of re-writing legislation and "stable" means unchanging, not 2% "doctored and fraudulent" inflation.  Specifically they will control money and credit aggregates to reverse the scam of the false inflation numbers via hedonics and productivity that were unlawfully applied over the last 30+ years.  I understand doing this in a week can't happen, but it will happen and they will run policy commensurate with their Congressional mandate or I will find a way to remove them by whatever means it takes.  Cue President Jackson on this one, if it comes to it; Treasury can be directed to buttfuck The Fed under Executive power, that's already obvious and actually not even slightly difficult given the will and I will do so.
  
  
• A National Emergency will be declared on the first day of my Administration relating to the Internet and threat to our Republic that the current abuse of same both foreign and domestic has incurred.  The specific demands for reform will include separation of utility and application functionality with the former being absolutely barred from discrimination in sales of like kind and quantity for any firm with more than $100 million a year in revenue worldwide.  Any firm that refuses will have all foreign transactions blocked in accordance with the 1970s NEA powers and all dollar-denominated transactions and assets frozen.  Further any coordinated action to ban particular political perspectives, points of view or publishers shall bring instant prosecution under 15 USC carrying felony criminal penalties.  I will perp-walk every single major social media, transport, cloud and DNS company executive straight into federal prison if I must. The bullcrap we're dealing with now will stop or the firms doing it will be destroyed with their executives asset-stripped to their underwear.
  
  
• The 2nd Amendment shall be restored.  I shall seek declaratory judgment from the Supreme Court on the fraud in Miller's instance and, once having secured same shall move to have the entire body of existing "gun control", other than actual commerce between states which does remain a federal power, declared void.  In addition the 14th Amendment guarantees incorporation against State Laws on matters of civil rights.  Any state or local government official who disagrees will find themselves in the federal slam-slam facing 18 USC 242 charges.  Until that is accomplished the DOJ shall be directed to ignore that blatantly unconstitutional set of laws and if they or any other federal agency refuses I shall issue pardons to anyone they arrest on any non-violent firearms offense.  If you want to make, own and carry a firearm, suppressor or whatever -- have at it.  If some federal agency cop shows up and tries to bust you the next morning you'll be pardoned.  I don't care if I wear out 1,000 pens signing pardons.  This bullshit will stop -- right now.
  
  
• The 4th Amendment shall be restored.  The entire "policing for profit" revenue share model on civil forfeiture is rankly unconstitutional and the entirety of that program will be scrapped by Executive Order on my first day in office.  Any state, county or local official who continues it beyond that day shall be subject to arrest and indictment by the federal government under 18 USC 242 which explicitly prohibits the violation of Constitutional Rights under color of law or authority.  That is a criminal statute and I will be more than happy to put 50,000 local cops and county sheriffs in the federal slam-slam if I must.  We'll have plenty of room with all the weed violations that will be released.  This crap will stop; if some copshop claims that money or property is the fruit of an illegal act before they can seize and attempt to forfeit it they must obtain a felony criminal conviction on the underlying offense and prove the connection beyond a reasonable doubt.  Period.
  
  
• The Glo-bull warming scam will be stopped dead.  All federally funded research and data, past, present and future shall be declared as public domain.  Mann and his cohorts will be forced to disgorge same or be charged with theft (or destruction, if they try to evade it via tampering) of government property.  Enough.
  
  
• I shall demand of Congress that the current law permitting International Cartels to operate in facial violation of 15 USC Chapter 1 be repealed.  This is an outrage passed in the 1970s in response to the Arab Oil Embargo.  Congress shall be called upon to repeal it on their first day in session.  Period.  Until they do I shall tariff all cartel-controlled products, including oil, sufficiently to make them non-economic for import and sale in the United States.  We can be oil-independent today and until Congress puts a stop to the OPEC rape-job one way or another we shall be.
  
  
• I shall demand of Congress an immediate rescission of (1) all federal funding of student loans and (2) immediate removal of the "privileged" status of such debt on a forward basis from bankruptcy discharge.  All such lending on a forward basis shall be private and shall be subject to the risk of bankruptcy discharge.  This will instantly collapse the cost of college to something you can afford to attend and engage in by working at Starbucks.
  
  
• It shall be the national energy policy of the United States to explore and, if justified, develop LFTR-based nuclear energy, including using coal as the Thorium feedstock, so as to become entirely energy independent through its use and CTL technology within 20 years.  The math and basis for this is found in this post from 2011, or if you prefer in my book Leverage.  This is achievable given the technology of today and we shall do it as a nation so as to never again be able to be held hostage for electricity, transportation or war-fighting fuels.
  
  
• It shall be the foreign policy of the United States that unless (1) an American or (2) a piece of American property, including a flagged vessel, aircraft, embassy or other item is damaged or destroyed it is not a matter for our military.  The United States shall respect the sovereign power of all nations.  However, no nation shall enjoy a free and open trading relationship nor shall the ownership and control of any US property whether physical, intellectual or otherwise be recognized on an equal and unimpaired basis by any of their firms or nationals if said nation does not afford all of its citizens on a substantially equal basis the freedoms guaranteed by the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th and 6th Amendments to the US Constitution along with substantially equal rights without regard to sex, race, color and creed.
  
  
• It shall be the goal of my administration to fire half of all Federal Employees within my first term and shrink both the Federal Statute Books and CFRs by 50%.  I think I can do better, but that's the goal for the first 4 years.  We'll see.
  
  
• I shall neither submit or sign any budget that runs a deficit except in a time of declared war and in fact shall sign no budget that does not run a surplus as a percentage of GDP equal to the previous 12 months productivity gain or more if same is positive.  End of discussion, full stop.  Whatever the government wishes to do it will pay for, and all such shall include the room for whatever supplemental appropriations may arise including disasters.  No exceptions.  Disasters are not known in advance but that they happen every year is.  Further the government shall not steal the natural improvement in purchasing power that belongs to the citizens as a consequence of their improvement in productivity either.
  
  
• No, I will not stop using "colorful language" when it is appropriate.  Running a nation is an adult job.  Children do not have a seat at the table -- not because they aren't respected but because they lack the experience, wisdom, impulse control and judgment to be considered an appropriate resource in such matters.  If you're incapable of dealing with adult matters then feel free to go hide in your "safe space" and let the adults do what has to be done -- including, occasionally, erecting a well-earned middle finger.
  
  
• No, I will not publish my tax returns.  The requirements to run for President are in the Constitution.  Tax returns are confidential, period, end of discussion.  Incidentally, so are medical records (HIPPA) so no, I won't be taking any public medical exams either.  However, you're welcome to peruse my running time records in races where I publicly appear and there is a publicly-visible clock, and draw from that whatever conclusions you wish.

To the extent any of this requires Congressional approval I will veto at my discretion every single bill that comes across my desk until the necessary statutes are enacted or repealed.  This specifically includes but is not limited to all spending bills.  In addition to the extent spending is constrained by said vetos I will direct that the first cuts are to all security, maintenance, utility and other facilities and programs that benefit any member of Congress or their staff.  They will either do their damn job or they'll take the brunt of their refusal, unlike Barry Soetero who punished ordinary Americans when Congress didn't do what he wanted.

There's plenty more but this will be a good start for my platform.

I'm available for public debate on any or all of this platform against anyone else who believes they have better ideas and wishes to take the left seat.  As noted, since I'm aware of no party interested in these positions one of them will have to draft me....

As for electors and the state filings for same we'll cross that bridge if there's enough to be worth doing what has to be done to make that happen.

This page is subject to update but no commitment above shall be materially weakened or changed to the detriment of the people of this nation, and if challenged on same I will produce the entire audit log of this page back to the original posting of this message. -- Karl