Boredfree wrote..

What might America be like if universal suffrage for white dudes had never came to be in the 1820's? Up to then you had to OWN property to vote. Giving those with no skin in the game the right to vote...

From where did the notion of property rights derive?

Boredfree wrote..

A real luddite might look fondly upon those past times...

Well...maybe we're Luddites, maybe not. I don't know. But what I do know is that my kids won't starve over the next several years; inflation affects me a lot less because I fix stuff myself and only need to source the raw mats (it also builds fellowship with like minds!); my community is more hardened now than most because I chose to get off my ass and do something about it; and I get to decide who eats off my orchard and who doesn't.

I may be a Luddite, but that's liberty and security in a world where voting will soon matter not. Someone who needs something from me is going to find out that tucking their balls between their legs and squealing like Jame Gumb in Silence of the Lambs will earn them nothing but an expeditious escort off my lawn.

@TraelinO

I feel it's both necessary and important to pick at any leader. People need to know their leaders failings as much as their triumphs.

Our culture has spent too much time looking backwards through rose-colored glasses and making demigods out of fallible humans.

As far as dumbasses are concerned, anyone who thinks the three letter agencies are doing anything other than fucking us is foolish.

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The problem is most people want to point a finger rather than their thumb when dealing with challenges.

Boredfree wrote..

I feel it's both necessary and important to pick at any leader. People need to know their leaders failings as much as their triumphs.

Where I was going with that is I didn't think it was a failing; and people have had ZERO problems the last 50 years of cherrypicking what they don't like about the evil white men who founded this country.

Washington was a phoenix like Cincinnatus. He had to do what he had to do in order to destroy the old world and guide the red-headed Jeffersons into the new world.

Overall, he accomplished more in one lifetime than most of us will in 10. I have often thought to myself (no shit): "Thank you, sir, for providing my children with this beautiful idea. And thank you, sir, for tending to the needs of Virginia."

My humble $.02.

Getting gateway timeouts when attempting to post.

No discussion of the fact on Dec 28, Elon Musk sold a billion $'s worth of shares?

Seems a tad excessive considering this bullshit company is the very backbone of 'build back better' in America.

Build back better. Keep complying suckers.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news....

Cathie Wood's prediction for a 20% gain in 2021 sours as Ark's flagship fund sees worst return since inception

It's been a difficult year for investors in Ark Invest's flagship Disruptive Innovation ETF, with the fund on track for its worst year of performance since launching in 2014.

That's after the ETF delivered sky-high returns of 150% in 2020, helping Ark Invest amass more than $17 billion in assets under management in its flagship fund. The ETF is down 21% in 2021, while the S&P 500 is up about 30% year-to-date.

She now expects even higher returns looking forward, with a recent blog post outlining her view that the fund could deliver a five-year compounded annual growth rate of up to 40%.

Hungrylion: He's done that a number of times in the last month or so.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-t....

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Elon Musk has sold $16.4 billion worth of shares since early November when the world's richest person polled Twitter users about offloading 10% of his stake in the electric-car maker.
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Musk said on Nov. 6 he would sell 10% of his stake if Twitter users agreed.

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It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity.

Festina lente.

As for Hillary as VP. What if they killed Mitch or Rand? 50-49

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I think its time we ask ourselves if we still know the freedoms that our founding fathers intended for us. Ronald Reagan 1964

No need, Romney is being set up to cuck for

- the greater good

- bipartisanship

- because its his nature

Multiple choice, more than one answer allowed.

@Themortgagedude

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As for Hillary as VP.

Not happening. Nor will either Biden nor Harris be out of a job next year (99% certainty). The simple reason is the Democrats would lose control of the Senate immediately. It would go from 51-50 to 50-50 with no VP to break the tie.

In the 1% off-chance there is a vacancy, the Senate will simply delay filling it until after the midterms (i.e., "let the American people decide") should it occur after mid-year

If it happens before then, they will probably fill it with someone like Senator Tim Kaine from Virginia. With a Republican governor to fill that slot, it would keep the Senate out of Democrat control.

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For several years I have been telling my wife that due to tax issues we needed to plan on moving out of the PRM - Peoples Republic of Maryland. My wife has always expressed reluctance due to nearby friends and family. But Covid insanity has changed her mind. Our timeline is to be uprooted and out of here within 3 years, and to be spending significantly less time in this Commie state by fall 2022.

The question is to where? For reasons, it will be to the west and south (how much so in either direction is undetermined). We like a 4-season climate with a mild winter and we don't like traffic. The nice thing about Maryland is beyond the I-95 corridor, Baltimore and the DC beltway there is a lot of semirural development. So you can live on a nice, good sized lot in a town that is not overbuilt.

The Midwest & Plain states provide this lifestyle in ample quantity but the longer winters are a negative and the politics are iffy until you get to Nebraska, and then the winters / blizzards become very real. Missouri then? But they get tornadoes, LOL.

There has been good discussion on this forum of the economic, cultural & political tradeoffs of different locations. TG, is it worth your effort to host more of this conversation? There are a number of websites that claim to do this but either they are clickbait or their analysis is superficial.

Thanks TG for your fantastic contribution to knowledge and sanity. Your perspective is valuable and greatly appreciated.

TG doesn't generally take requests but perhaps he could add an opinion on crypto for 2022. Tom Brady who has plenty of money and seems quite sensible is doing ads pumping crypto. His star power might make people think that is a solid investment. To me crypto is pure gambling that I have zero interest in but to me seems to show the bubble mentality even more than a stock like Tesla where Musk is a huge factor driving that price.

@Invisiblesun

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The question is to where? For reasons, it will be to the west and south (how much so in either direction is undetermined).

"Strategic Relocation" by Skousen is a great resource

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re: QUESTION on where to travel
I would like some ideas from forum members. I really want to show my spouse Italy, don't know when that will be possible. I just returned this month from a week in Mexico---had a great time, no hassles. wear a mask on public transit and buffets. Relatively quick antigen test ($24), but only to get back into the US (none to go there). My sibling just returned from a great trip to Ecuador and was stressed because she had to get a test going and coming, was hard to do in the short timeframe given. I do not know if jabbs are required to get into Ecuador, but they are NOT required to get into Mexico.

@ invisiblesun..

And anybody else considering moving. I highly recommend Huntsville, AL area. 4 seasons, yes high humidity, but extremely easy living conditions. Live and let live. Beautiful area with a lot of hiking and waterfalls.

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The question is to where?

The answer is West Virginia.

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The answer is West Virginia

My wife will inherit a portion of her family's land (multiple acres) in northern WV. An option will be to use that as home base and get a condo somewhere south to spend winter months.

My main issue with WV is the lack of sun, especially in the winter. Not only is it one of the more cloudy states, but my in-laws place sits between the hills and in the winter season, when there are clear skies, it still feels like you are always in the shadows.

It is also extremely remote. It is a 45 minute drive to get to the big-box stores, or hospitals and just about any activity dependent on others to provide, such as golf or live entertainment. It is a wonderful place to get away from the crowd, but a difficult place if you enjoy activities that are economically dependent on their being an existing customer base!

This is one of the decisions I need to make. If I live within 30 - 60 minutes of a large metro area real-estate will be expensive, or I will have to go small. I can go to the boonies but then remoteness has its own downside. I'd like to find a happy compromise.

Just looking at Tennessee, for example, every real estate option exists along I-81 / I-40 between the Virginia line, Knoxville and heading west towards Nashville. The question becomes, how remote is too remote and how expensive is too expensive.

Memento, 'Homo homini lupus est'.

So what's the chance of a 25% INCREASE in the major indexes next year?

@Tickerguy: is there anyway to save this thread until December 2022 so that we can revisit all of our predictions?

Flap

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Here are my predictions for everyone to see:
S&P 500 at 320, DOW at 2200, Gold $300/oz, and Corn $2/bu.
No sign that housing, equities, or farmland are in a bubble- Yellen 11/14/13
Trying to leave

It is exempted.

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Hey TG, What do you make of this?

Indiana life insurance CEO says deaths are up 40% among people ages 18-64
https://www.thecentersquare.com/indiana/....

Hyperinflation in the way it's commonly talked about/described perhaps not to the letter no I can agree.

I will say not that long ago you could've gotten a pack of (4)steaks for 12 bucks, now they're around 36 bucks, that's a 200% mark up! that happened overnight by the end of September! (Perhaps August)

So no you may not see a loaf of bread go for $100 bucks, though you might see it go for 5 bucks.
It's still technically hyperinflation especially in comparison to the past 30 years hell 80 years of a cheap food standard of living.

:::::Labor, jobs and employers...

Well it's all a bunch of shit quite frankly, The government benefits ran out for the (mass majority) last June if the last of may, get over it, the shitty 500 dollar child tax credit went no where, your not staying home doing nothing for another 6 months being flushed only with 500 bucks.

Yes employers have been shitheads that's a big deal but the bigger deal is simply (profits)...

I don't know about any of you, but I go to work to make a profit, if I don't make one aka afford life then I don't go! It's really that simple!

So it's a matter of motivation, 1400 bucks a month in the ghetto I'm seeing advertised, yeah the mass majority of jobs don't support that.

so then why would you waste oh 6 to 8 hours of your day being pinned up and told just what to do for the illusion of money, knowing full well you're on the street anyways?

Oh boy landlords here they come:::: they've been chasing after and grabbing up that welfare, section 8 housing/metropolitan money for years.. addicted to government funds, the rasing of the rent seems to be just another business trying to get more government money while at the same time charging everyone stupid amounts of money.. yep the government sets the bare minimum price!

Steaks again? Well them stores sure do go after that EBT money, maybe that's the actual reason there's been a 200%
(to say the least) mark up on beef...


Biden, both fake sides, yeah see Trump was in on the rigging of the election so Biden would win and take the fall...

De-anus, yep he's already been billed as the next Trump, well they're all controlled by small hat grabblers anyway, that's who really runs the show, don't like that well I don't care.

Could the reason why the corporate bond market did not melt down this past year is because of the FED buying into Blackrock's ETF's which, in turn, are invested into corporate bonds?

Blackrock has something like $9 Trillion under its management. Of course they have market movement capability.

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Its all in the mitochondria.

Soylent Green is people!

Anyone who eats catfood is a fricking moron. It goes for .65 a 5.5 ounce can. 3 cans equal a bit over a pound and cost $1.95, plus tax. You can get a pork roast on sell for .99 a pound with no tax. Even at height of meat shortage last year, I saw it for $1.49/lb.

I have very little patience with people who cant manage their money, even after 60 years. I have even less patience with people who didnt take care of themselves for decades and now are reliant on medications. And I have no patience for whiners who take no initiative to try and fix their situation and instead go on national news to lament they have no money for food and have to eat cat food.

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Its easier not to know the hell what you are doing when you are a government employee
"Pfuck Pfizer
"The strongest memory is weaker than the palest ink" Chinese proverb
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