I'm blown away @Crossthread at what new Class Cs sell for these days. Most of them are complete pieces of shit quality-wise and the ones that aren't, well, bring a LOT of money. I've seen a couple of the "Sprinter" conversions that are REAL nice, but goddamn they're expensive.

One of the reasons I decided to convert my 7x17 that I moved here in is that it's a twin-axle (where for an RV towable of that size would be a single, and close to overloaded!) which means I have a SHIT TON of reserve capacity in the frame and suspension. Yeah, its not "pretty" but a camper has a few basic functions one of the most-important of which is to keep the fucking rain off your head. If I want to get "yachty" about the interior finish I can, but I'd rather not frankly, and besides, with the way I'm doing it I don't lose the cargo capacity since all the "hard" upgrades are designed to not be able to be destroyed if hauling things (e.g. conduit for electrical, etc.) and the rest locks into the E-rails and can be removed and put in the garage when you want to haul stuff.

Other than a shower and shitter (chemical toilet will do for the latter) an RV is really a place to kick back, relax and sleep while keeping the rain and bugs off you with reasonable climate control. It does that. There IS room for an under-floor, between-frame-elements modest-size black tank (and in the next-forward bay fresh) but I ain't doing it. I may carry tankage inside in otherwise-unused space for fresh with a small tanked heater that I can use for an outside shower if boondocking; haven't decided on that yet.

If your needs are even MORE spartan and you're single (or a couple that REALLY like each other) convert your own van. You can still get something with around 100k on it as a pax van with a lifted roof at reasonable cost as a base, and its not very hard to put the rest in. My only complaint with that path is that I want to be able to go do things when I get where I'm going, and having it all in one makes that more-complicated since I hate the "toad" idea with a white-hot passion. I'd rather figure out a way to haul a small but street-legal motorcycle for that purpose if I must since that can be something suitable for rough roads (e.g. an enduro-style with appropriate tires) and such yet its still capable of highway speeds.

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