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2018-08-04 14:38 by Karl Denninger
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I Insist On A Divorce*
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I'm serious; it's time for our nation to undergo a divorce.

The "liberal enclaves" of NY, Oregon, California, Chicago and similar all claim to be the "bastions of our economy."  The problem is that they don't give a crap about how this nation was founded, why it was founded, or what the Constitution is -- or why.  When one of their politicians does something that's illegal and unconstitutional (e.g. DACA) they don't care but when a later politician tries to reverse it they find a black-robed dickhead who has no right to sit on anything but a toilet seat to order that the original illegal act be continued.  The same is true for the 2nd Amendment; they can't get the votes to actually repeal it so people like Cuomo try to put anyone who disagrees with them out of business.  To boycott would be fine except that this isn't a boycott of willing people; it's a felony (18 USC 242) as coercion under color of law or authority is involved and the 2nd Amendment is a civil rightWhen a leftist AG runs firearms to known international criminals running drugs it's ok, but if you are someone he doesn't like you go to prison.  When a sailor takes a photo of a submarine and never shares it with anyone he goes to prison for violating the law with regard to classified information but when a leftist has 30,000 emails, including thousands of classified ones on her server in violation of the same law and they get stolen by the Chinese due to her incompetence and law-breaking the very same federal law enforcement officials are too busy eating donuts or looking for fake Russian spies.  Meanwhile a real Chinese spy was employed by a sitting Senator -- Feinswine -- and she skates and the spy is allowed to "retire"!  Speaking of cops you lefties seem to have a problem with cops who can't shoot straight and those who just shoot anyone they want, then plant evidence.  Too bad all your lefty surveillance crap catches you once in a while -- not that any of you care since that jackass isn't in jail either!

To top it all off the NY Times, your "gray lady 2-bit *****", just hired an avowed racist with a multi-year public record of her hated of white people -- and cops.  When called on it the paper doubled down and claimed they knew of her record before they hired her.  Well now that tells me everything I need to know about both the NY Times and NY the State and City; you can all go **** yourselves blind and should a block-wide asteroid hit dead-center in Manhattan tomorrow I will tip a glass of Glengoyne 21 since God will have finally demonstrated that he actually exists.

I could literally fill up the disk on the server where this blog resides with a bullet-point list of your crooked crap but you don't give a **** -- right?

I don't give a flying **** if you're gay, straight, claim to be any of some four hundred genders or like sheep -- as long as the sheep consents. Oh, that consent thing applies to humans too, and that they be adults, both of which seem to be foreign concepts to a lot of leftists -- including a ****-ton of priests and essentially all of Hollyweird.  How many of those people have you lefties shielded from going to prison for butt****ing boys, to say nothing of the girls and women those jackasses have sexually assaulted or sold into slavery?  I literally can't count them all.

Then there's Portland, where the cops were ordered not to arrest a mob that was laying siege to a government building.  Why were they doing it?  Because that government agency was enforcing a law they didn't like.  They couldn't get it repealed or changed in Congress so instead they lay siege and got away with it.

So let's cut the crap eh?

I want a divorce and I think we need to discuss terms.

You see, those of us you hate -- we make most of your energy and food.  We make the chemicals that purify your water and treat your sewage.  We drive the trucks that bring all the cheap crap you want from Chinese slaver factories into your cities so Pajama Boy can play his "video game sports."  In short without us you're utterly ****ed, but without you we lose..... face****, twatter, goolag, crapple and the stock exchange.  Wow man, that would be bad.  Oh, and we have about 80% of the nation's landmass too.

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I think we have the better negotiating position, to be frank.  Can you live without something to eat, clean water to drink, working sewage disposal, natural gas to heat your homes and businesses, electrical power and fuel for your vehicles -- to say nothing of the trucks bringing all that crap into your city (including all those nice hypo needles in San Francisco)?  Oh, and by the way eventually one of the salafists you love so much is going to cart a few kilos of carfentanyl into one of your towns (he can probably have it sent over by ePacket for pennies!) and figure out the rather basic mechanics of getting it into your water supply, at which point a half million or more of you are all going to die at once.  You did pay attention to the recent Toronto jackwad who's brother was caught with something on the order of fifty kilos of that crap, right?  He's in a drug-caused vegetative state (my best guess is an accidental own goal while trying to handle it without the rather serious clean-room lab style precautions necessary) and thus we can't exactly ask him what he really intended to do with that much but I can assure you of this -- he wasn't going to sell it to junkies, given that one grain of salt worth of that crap is enough to kill you.  Oh, incidentally, the original source was almost-certainly your most-favored "free-trade" Asian nation -- China.

I suggest that this divorce can be quite peaceable and it's not very hard to achieve.  We return to the Federalism we were contractually promised, and you agreed to be contractually bound to in 1789.  You want your shootings, corrupt cops, jackbooted mayors and insane salafists?  Have 'em.  You figure out how to tax enough to pay for it and how you're going to deal with all the **** -- both literal and political -- that come with it.  If one of the wonderful people you insist be allowed in poisons your entire city, you deal with it.

But we won't put up with any of that crap any more nor will we tolerate any attempt to force us to, and that includes paying for it.  Your unfunded mandates shoved down the throat of the states that don't want them won't be tolerated for one more second.  Nor will your willful refusal to honor to the letter the First, Second, Fourth and Fifth Amendments, not to mention the Tenth.

I think it's time for those of us who have had enough of NY, Portland and San Francisco thinking that Federalism is some quaint notion to point out where the actual necessities they enjoy today come from -- and who makes it possible for them to have same.

Let's have peace -- but only through mutual respect and a cessation of not only your intentional and wanton violence but theft besides.  I propose repeal of the 17th Amendment, returning the Senate's election to the State Legislatures, as a good starting point and indication of good faith on both sides.

I suppose you can call this a request.

I suspect you'll refuse, and when, not if you do (likely by simple silence and further aggression toward those of us who disagree with you) I'm not going to be the one who starts shooting -- you've already got that distinction in your pick-a-mob for today, tomorrow and yesterday. Eventually, however, I suspect you'll find that the 80+% of the nation's landmass that disagrees with you will reach a point where they give no more of a **** than your mob-of-the-day does and then the time for politeness will have passed.

I hope I'm wrong about that, by the way -- but given how corrupt you are, and how you think you can just take whatever you want, whenever you want -- I doubt it.

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A question...could the productive country demand payment for the produce of its labors in something besides dollars?

That would get things interesting, real quick.
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As long as there is no debt incurred (e.g you insist on being paid before goods or services change hands) yep.

It is perfectly legal for me to insist that you pay in oranges provided I don't let you have the good or service first (e.g. incur a debt)

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Yes, but is not the primary output of those areas debt, insurance contracts, and journalism?
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Well yes.... Which we don't need now do we?

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I'm sort of dancing about that point. So let's do the divorce.

We will first demand payment in NYT and Washington Compost stories that paint people who do not work in air conditioning in a good light, and when the novelty of that is over, we just let the ****ers starve.
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I think we have the better negotiating position, to be frank.


Wouldn't it be great if we could get that 80% to go on strike for a week and not work and then see how those dependent on them react.

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The above article (masterfully written) just about sums up the Marxist utopia that the USA has transmogrified into over a period of decades.

The bad news is that you can "insist" all you want, but I think you know this: there will be no divorce. That's right. You don't divorce yourself from Marxists ( because they won't let you) anymore than the Founders could divorce themselves from a king. The Declaration of Independence was a certificate of divorce --- and a very well written one. How'd that work out? I'll tell you: it didn't.

So what's going to happen?

"This town isn't big enough for the two of us" is what it'll all finally come down to in the end. I've seen it coming for years; only instead of a "town" not being big enough, this time it's a whole country. Yeah, that means sooner or later there's going to be a gunfight.

Have you ever watched the movie "The man who shot Liberty Valance"? There is a timeless, underling moral to the story. The movie has three primary characters: 1) Liberty Valance, the man who needed to get shot. 2) Ranse Stoddard, an articulate, gentleman who believed in the rule of law. 3) Tom Doniphon, the man with the big iron on his hip who knew all along what needed doing. And that's life in a nutshell, viz., those who need shooting, those who do the shooting and those who build a civilized society founded on the basis of both secular and God's law.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U49MXakb....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI_BKLpS....
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love the idea, however whenever I hear the "divorce" word I get screwed!
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"Yes, but is not the primary output of those areas debt, insurance contracts, and journalism?"

Don't forget advertising and spyware.
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Conversations like this need to happen. And when I say "conversation" it's not the newspeak version like the leftists always want to have about race, where "conversation" is shorthand for "you shut up while we talk at you about how racist you are."

Anytime I hear about divorce, I think of the 1908's movie "The War of the Roses." Mostly because it mirrored my divorce happening at that time to an alarming degree(except for the dick-biting and death part, of course). The moral of that story is, sit down, get it over with, and move on with whats left of your life. Nobody died in my divorce, but the "great" state of Ohio changed the law to make sure that our escapade and minor media circus could never happen again.

On the national level, we're not going to get off that easy. The other side wants us either under their boot, or dead. They are past understanding, as our host has just pointed out, that we can starve them to death just by standing back, walking away, and watching them fight over the last pack of Kraft Singles at the 7-11.

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Along a similar vein I've always privately hoped that oil companies would stop selling gas in the nutty states that are trying to sue oil companies for global warming bull****. A few days with no gas and I'd bet those **********s would shut up real quick.

But don't divorce yourself from all of Oregon, it's only Portland, Salem and Eugene that are inhabited by mainly regressive lefties - where I live on the coast we have a lot of really good folks.
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But don't divorce yourself from all of Oregon, it's only Portland, Salem and Eugene that are inhabited by mainly regressive lefties - where I live on the coast we have a lot of really good folks.


I agree. I lived just outside of Coos Bay for 3 years. Mostly a conservative county that voted for Trump in 2016. Even many of the Dems in southern and eastern Oregon want to break away from the rest of the state and join northern Cali in the new state of Jefferson.
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Meh.

I hear this all the time -- but the facts are this; you live there, you thus can vote in state elections, and you can demand (and enforce) a change. But you haven't and don't, nor have you left.

I lived in Illinois for quite a while. There was no way I was going to raise a kid there, even though only the NE corner, plus maybe a few other small places (e.g. Springfield) is hard-lefty-stupid. Doesn't matter. If I lived there I'd be paying their taxes and thus promoting and sustaining the idiocy that is Chicago -- now Rahm's playplace. Nope, nope and nope.

There are supposed to be 50 state laboratories for political environment. Making excuses for the one you happen to inhabit, when it's a choice you make each and every morning when you wake up and still live there, doesn't fly.

Florida isn't perfect by any means, and in fact I'm likely to leave it over recent state-level stupidity, but it sure as **** beats Oregon, California or Illinois.

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request that this editorial not be allowed to roll off.

interestingly a lot of states that made their beds with the city franchises once had basic, core needs economies. they disenfranchised the larger state populations by both locally and nationally by supporting politics that resulted in this situation. now they are left (pun intended) with only their cities as their cash cows to support the larger state. even the cities themselves stupidly destroyed the real industries that often defined them for the mono-culture of the FIRE economy. yes, cities for logical reasons of concentration often served themselves and other areas of the country in terms of basic needs. other than FIRE economy, their only other industry is overpriced real estate which is a scheme. break that and a whole host of support industries fall with it. one way in which NYC and probably other cities cemented themselves in the national priorities is that this same ponzi real estate is the security for many other groups investments and the world in many cases. by concentrating wealth, real or scam, everyone fears their failure. even unions in other states far distant invest in NYC real estate for their pensions.

we lost the chance to let this fall on its face when Ford was pressured to not let NYC fail. there was now in place a sentiment that the American city, namely NYC, could not fail or be damaged. over the years, this assumption in conjunction with the other monetary chicanery solidified the situation while compounding the effect.

what most people fail to realize is that the other 80% of the country possesses massive resources which could make us world independent. the federal model which oppresses is the spiritual child of the civil war where certain Northeastern Interests benefited from the federal largess and preference even though they did not possess the raw resources and production of said to fuel their future industries and businesses. ever wonder why new cities are never built, usually environmental issues are the reason given. no, it is that the states with their 80% and resources are prevented by the federal lock in of the civil war from openly competing in the "city" franchise or chartering business.

at the time of the civil war the Northeastern interests were concerned with new industrial areas and ports forming and the loss of federal coastal waters resources (i.e. Coast Guard functions, navigation services, customs, etc.) which were subsidized by the "other" states being pulled away from them.

destroying the manufacturing base of the country in the recent times was the final nail to protect the existing city monopoly.

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Lord Karl, you really need to stop taking the long way around the barn and say what you think.

I called the Trump election about the same time Ann Coulter did, I felt we were at a tipping point being fed up with the fake news, PC bull**** and an economy stuck in the mud, I am no activist but I could be to join a protest in DC you have alluded to and if I might get off my 60 year old ass and do that there are probably a lot of people of my ilk who may do it to ...or just vote.

A good friend of mine owns a small machine tool company in ill a noise , and is swamped with orders with work coming back from China for a myriad of reasons and he cant find workers, He would pay a grinder 50 K a year for a skill that you could learn in 6 months in shop class. He trains them himself if he can find someone who will show up every day. This is off topic a bit but my point and yours is we need immigrants with brains and a work ethic and we can only do that if we vet them not let them ooze in illegally and fester in places like sanctuary cities.

I dearly hope the left keeps foaming at the mouth with a socialist agenda long popcorn for the midterms

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Ginsberg will be the appointed divorce judge and CNN will be the jury. The time for peaceful divorce is in the rear view mirror.
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We need to add to the divorce- moral turpitude. When state controlled colleges do little more than try to promote "grooming" behavior to have your child molested the gig is up. Enough of these predators.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/06/13/cal....

Check out other links in the article.


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Had a long conversation with a friend of mine today about this very topic. Like our host, he spent some time in IL, and fled to Colorado. Now he is looking to flee to Wyoming or back to our home state.

Educated man who among other things works in commodities forecasting. He is looking to get somewhere to "weather the storm". He also sees a divorce coming, but has no hope of it being civil.

To sum up our conversation.
There are to many people on the 'left side of the curve' to supply current demands for workers. Some may be trainable, but most have no intention of ever working and will get violent if they are not fed and entertained.

There are to many people on the right side of the curve who live in cities and have no idea of how something as simple as a glass of water is dependent on the good will and consent of people they will never meet. Logistics is a cold mistress, and our "optimization" over the last few decades has led to a very thing, long supply line. One that easy to disrupt and hard to maintain .

Finally, those in the places that produce what the other two groups want (taxes, resources, water, food, power, etc) are increasingly held up to ridicule. The NYT has a asian lady screaming that all white men should be killed, and the employers consent. At some point, the words will lead to actions. At some point, everyone will decide to play the game.

When that happens, the nice society that is in Chicago, New York, and Seattle will face some major challenges to say the least. When the food stops, the left side of the curve will get rather upset.

Which is why my friend is looking to retire at 43 and move his family to a location that has water, defensible, and is located over seven days walk from a major city. He has little hope the divorce will be civil.
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No divorce. We shouldn't yield one square femtometer to the liberals. Nothing!

This issue was settled in the War Between the States. Where we go one we go all.

I'd be in favor of firewalling those enclaves you mention _temporarily_, Fukushima-style, for 6-12 months. After the ferals have mostly eaten each other, then we send in the 10th Mountain Division and repopulate with God-fearing Patriots.
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