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Sane
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When I was an undergrad, one of the courses I had to take was on the history of Engineering. One of the topics presented was that historically (1800s and earlier), there were generally 4 professions. The marks of a profession were:
    * highly respected by society
    * worked for themselves
    * set their own wages
    * set their own hours
The professions in those days were clergy, lawyers, engineers, and doctors. The engineers who built large bridges were world famous; everybody knew their names.

Clergy have lost respect, especially due to the many scandals they have been involved in.

Engineers are no longer professionals, because almost all of them now work for somebody else.

Most lawyers likewise work for somebody else.

Doctors have now destroyed their own credibility, by their actions over the last 2 years. Not only that, but most also work for somebody else rather than have their own practices.
Sane
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@Jwm_in_sb
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I don't agree...the debate on the science hasn't happened which is why they are resorting to censorship. I doubt that we'd lose which they're attempting to avoiding the debate

You gave no reference to your comment, so nobody can tell what you are disagreeing with.

In all future comments, QUOTE what you are referring to, and then make your comments.

Click on the "Limited HTML" link at the bottom of the page to learn how.
Neonsignal
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Hooman has 2700 followers, 2 likes, and 11 comments, all negative.

He has a followup article that is an "expert opinion and attestation", but is entirely content-free. That one has 2 likes and 3 comments, all negative.

I'm guessing the likes are him and his mom?
The "ignorant sheeplike rabble" he's trying to save don't seem to be buying it.

I'd love to hear him debate his opponents but it will never happen.
Ambiguousfrog
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Georgia, U.S.A.
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@Tickerguy

Slightly off topic, any connection if blood type plays a role in severity or bearing on symptomatic versus asymptomatic disease? Reason I ask is daughter home from college due to positive test but no symptoms for ten days. Me being immunocompromised, show no signs or symptoms. Son who is O- comes down cold like symptoms. So, it got me thinking that two out of five of us are O- and have shown past and present symptoms of something. In my wife's case (O-) she's had the ***19 twice. Or could there be other underlying reasons aside from blood type?
Sonoran_monk
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Between a saguaro and an arroyo.
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Karl, this is a masterful summation of the situation. Bravo! smiley

This is also the perfect sharable Ticker for those who claim that they couldn't before because the posts are too spicy.
Evilcecil
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Not so Maryland
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@Edwardteach -
Thanks for posting the video! smiley

I need to forward it to my wife's family - all highly degreed and all dumb as stumps! (I apologize to all the stumps out there.)
smiley

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Jesjohn94
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The Governments grossly unethical uses of its nudge unit inflated fear among the public during the COVID-19 pandemic, psychologists have saidprompting MPs to launch an investigation.

A group of psychologists have written to Parliaments Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee, warning that a team of civil servants dedicated to nudging public behavior during the pandemic were unaccountable and unethical.

The letters 40 professional signatoriesled by Dr Gary Sidley, a retired clinical psychologistsaid they opposed the use of manipulative slogans such as: If you go out you can spread it, people will die.

They also condemned the use of images of the acutely unwell in intensive care units on billboard and TV ads, as well as the macabre mono focus on showing the number of COVID-19 deaths without mention of mortality from other causes or the fact that, under normal circumstances, around 1,600 people die each day in the UK.

The signatories said it was highly questionable whether a civilized society should knowingly increase the emotional discomfort of its citizens as a means of gaining their compliance.

The letter added: Government scientists deploying fear, shame and scapegoating to change minds is an ethically dubious practice that in some respects resembles the tactics used by totalitarian regimes such as China, where the state inflicts pain on a subset of its population in an attempt to eliminate beliefs and behavior they perceive to be deviant.
Bzelbob
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Jacksonville
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@Marquiri - meant to comment on this earlier.
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My wife works at a grocery store chain here in Florida. They recently started distributing free N95 masks to customers through some program with the federal government.
There are two large cardboard boxes over by the pharmacy, and they are both filled with masks. The masks aren't boxed, wrapped or packaged in any way.
Just sitting out in the open waiting for the public to come dig through. The sign says limit three per customer.
When my wife told me I almost didn't believe it. I saw it for myself yesterday.

"From the sublime to the ridiculous..." as they say.

There's been so many lies, and so much confusion that people (& companies for that matter) have reached the level of complete cognitive dissonance.
Trying to "virtue signal" but not knowing how to do it.

Went to show here the other night. I saw maybe 10% of people wearing the cloth masks. No N95's at all.
Many took their mask off to watch the show and put them on when moving about the theater.

The phrase "less than useless" came to mind a lot that night.


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Kikknback
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"First, Do No Harm" - Original Hippocratic Oath

Has become:

"First, Murder Them All" - NEW Hippocratic Oath

If the medical "profession"[cough] follows the original Hippocratic Oath, they CAN'T "build a ticket"(conduct as many tests/treatments as possible, and purposely make you sicker to make more money).

If the medical "profession"[cough] follows the NEW Hippocratic Oath, they CAN "build a ticket"(conduct as many tests/treatments as possible, and purposely make you sicker to make more money).

Follow the money? If you follow the money in politics, you find the criminals.

Well, the same is now true in the medical "profession"[cough].

The CRIMINAL MEDICAL-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX have become politicians with their sole purpose to generate as much revenue as possible to strip American families of all of their wealth(Transfer of wealth / Steal from the Middle Class).

This Covid-19 WORLD WIDE FRAUD is a coordinated and choreographed GENOCIDE.

This ticker dispels the lies the CRIMINAL MEDICAL-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX has recited to the citizens around the world for two years with scientific irrefutable evidence to prove it.

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Sonoran_monk
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@Jesjohn94 - Your mention of nudging reminds me of that evil S.O.B Cass Sunstein and his book by the same name and his alleged 'Libertarian paternalism.'

I can think of a good place to nudge him from.
Hanssachs
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New York
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@Sonoran_monk,

You wrote what I came to write. This is a simple, straightforward explanation of why a rational non-jabbee might be that way. Covidians won't bother with it, but anyone wondering why they got Omicron after being vaxxed and boosted (a lot of acquaintances) will be open to its arguments.

Thanks for this, KD. I think your Covid posts will now fade, except to reveal new horrors we discover if after-effects from the jabbs. I'm glad you helped save me and some people close to me; I remember a year ago how excited I was that we had vaccines and how unlucky I was (ha!) that I was not in a high-priority group.

COVID is over; the Viherhrmacht has suffered its Stalingrad. There might be a couple of years of fighting left, but the outcome is not in doubt. The "Good Germans" who launched this assault on the rest of us better beg for better treatment than the Soviets meted out to German civilians:" kill me,******me, but leave my family unmolested." They deserve it,
Tjaskicz
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The antibody titers produced were wildly beyond that from natural infection without any explanation as to why. A reasonable explanation is that the manufacturers either knew or suspected that (1) the protection would rapidly wane and thus gamed the test so as to pass the deliberately-short timeframe required to sell them and (2) viral evasion due to mutation was likely.


And one more factor: the IgG antibodies one develops from the injection are not very effective at upper respiratory infections, where you want IgA antibodies present at the infection site.

From Fields Virology (2013), Chapter 14 (Abs = antibodies) :

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Abs present in the systemic circulation efficiently protect internal organs against viruses that are introduced directly into the bloodstream (e.g., HBV and HIV) or that spread via the bloodstream from primary sites of replication such as the respiratory or gastrointestinal mucosa. As mentioned previously, diseases produced by viruses that fall into the latter category (i.e., measles, polio, hepatitis A, rubella, smallpox, and varicella) can be prevented or modified by Ig prophylaxis, often with small amounts of Ab that are difficult to detect in the blood of recipients. Such Abs are relatively easy to induce by parenteral immunization with live or inactivated virus vaccines. In contrast, Abs present in the systemic circulation do not provide efficient protection against viral diseases that are limited to mucosal surfaces unless these Abs are present in high titer. This is because only a small proportion of such Ig molecules traffic from the plasma to the lumenal surface of the mucosal epithelium by transudation. Therefore, to prevent viral diseases that are limited to mucosal tissue, two different strategies can be employed. The first is to induce Abs such as secretory IgA at the mucosal site by virus replication or immunization at that site. The second, and less efficient, strategy is to stimulate a high titer of serum IgG Abs that can protect mucosal surfaces following transudation.

When IgG Abs present in the blood are passively transferred to mucosal surfaces by transudation where they can exert antiviral activity, there is a gradient regarding the ability of serum IgG-derived Abs to restrict virus replication on mucosal surfaces. This gradient is less in lung than it is in the nasopharynx.
IgG Abs, if present in the serum in high enough titer, can provide almost complete resistance to pulmonary replication of RSV; however, resistance in the upper respiratory tract is more difficult to achieve.

Although passively transferred IgG Abs can provide mucosal immunity in the lower respiratory tract, the major mediators of resistance to virus infection of the upper respiratory tract, the larger airways of the lungs, and the gastrointestinal tract are mucosal Abs, many of which are IgAs selectively transported across mucosal surfaces to exert antiviral effects on the lumenal
surface.


Prof_dilligaf
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"I write in defense of the United States and Her public health,

Hooman Noorchashm MD, PhD"


Once again, they just can't help themselves: " I'm George Washington, Louis Pasteur, and Jesus all rolled up into one noble, holy, and damn sexy package!" There's a real danger that if all of America's doctors ever gathered in one place, the gravitational pull of their egos would combine to produce a supermassive black hole to rival the one at the center of our galaxy.

And even more galling is how little of that egotism is remotely justified, when one of his "points" is even though a huge number of people in "authority" have been lying directly to our faces, we should still buy what they're selling because, um, reasons?
Andyk
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Indiana
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@ Thegreatunwashed:
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I wonder if the Diamond Princess is really quite the perfect natural experiment as it seems, at least in one specific respect. Being a cruise, I imagine it is possible that a large portion of the passengers got heavy doses of natural vitamin D that they normally wouldn't get when not on vacation. That may have boosted their innate immunities and saved many of them from infection.

I doubt it. A typical 1 to 2 week cruise isn't enough sun time to really boost your Vit D by a significant margin.
Jc3
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Incept: 2020-03-02

South Texas 93 miles from Houston
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@Motorelay You can add the remaining employees who now DESPISE their mandating employers and are now doing their best to LOWER productivity and profits of said employer. For the most part, mandating employer will not be able to locate these as many may be "vaxxed" but now know they've been lied to.

@Kari Good point on Vit C. My normal method for decades is:
Feel something coming on? Take 2,000mg Vit C every 3 hours. Many times, the "feeling of getting ill" is gone in 24 hours. During Christmas covid, it was about 3,000mg every 3 hours.

@Andrew approved and probably unobtanium in the USA. Some Beaches are trying REAL hard to get these experimental injections added to the "required for children" list. May they fail and/or live to regret it very much along with their families and heirs. Told my grown children more than once that I am so glad this circus of death was not produced during their childhoods.

@Ambiguousfrog either the jury is still our or "something they don't want out".
Some studies say yes, blood type plays a part. As noted in TF, the folks at links below have lost credibility and may be lying to us.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/ar....
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/ar....
Tickerguy
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There's a lot of speculation on blood type but I've yet to see convincing science. Not that it matters considering you can't change it. It's sort of like "well, if it gets black people, and it really is hereditary rather than because their BMI tends to be higher there isn't **** you can do about it anyway."

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Onelegged
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Well it appears that according to the Focussed Dip**** Alliance Modernas jab is approved for prevention of Covid just like Pfizers jab. Note page 3.

WTF?

https://www.fda.gov/media/144636/downloa....

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Tickerguy
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And it too is a fraud.

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Stop consenting and it is forced to stop. Always.
No violence required.
Califpoppy
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Bless you, Karl, and a WORLD of thanks for being a warrior for truth!
Smokintoad
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Dr. Noorchashm's wife died over 5 years ago after a medical device (called a power morcellator)

Morcellator? Sounds like a fancy name for a Macerator, which literally slices **** into a fine flurry for pumping into a septic line. Sounds like a morcellator is much the same, but with less thought for what happens when the **** contacts the rotating metal blades.
Thegreatunwashed
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Elton John & Justine Trueau must be hanging out with a lot of Canadian truckers.

https://www.aol.com/entertainment/elton-....

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Printlife
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@Thegreatunwashed Cruise ships are better understood as floating resorts. Much of the activity is within, not out in the sun. The pools, hot tubs, casino and dining areas are interior. Speaking as a redhead, I can easily avoid getting too much sun on a cruise.
Perhaps the only key feature is the exclusion. Just like real estate, you are paying for the right of non-use. If the unlimited chow line wasn't 10 miles out to sea, it couldn't operate.

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Escape from California...
Vaccination required for my boys?
Gotta go.
Packetcap
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the FAA and the FDA follow the same model. Let the manufacturer create the tests, and supervise the testing. Perform little to no review of test results, just take them at their word.

The FAA are rank amateurs compared to the FDA. Two 737's worth of people just don't compare to what the FDA has done to the world.
Stetson
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@Andyk:
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@ Thegreatunwashed:
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I wonder if the Diamond Princess is really quite the perfect natural experiment as it seems, at least in one specific respect. Being a cruise, I imagine it is possible that a large portion of the passengers got heavy doses of natural vitamin D that they normally wouldn't get when not on vacation. That may have boosted their innate immunities and saved many of them from infection.


I doubt it. A typical 1 to 2 week cruise isn't enough sun time to really boost your Vit D by a significant margin.


I agree. Also, consider that the passengers on that ship were likely heavily skewed toward the elderly, probably most with comorbidity. Still, only 20% (+/-) affected.

Striped-pad
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Jwm_in_sb wrote..
So regarding Comirnaty, Karen Kingston claimed a few days ago that there were specific batch lots identified as Comirnaty by the FDA. ABOUT 12M DOSES.

These are the lot numbers from the linked video, for anyone who wants to research it:

FF7220
FE3592
FF2587
FF2588
FF2590
FF2593
FF8841
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