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2022-01-13 09:58 by Karl Denninger
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I'm getting very tired of the tin-foil-hat crowd.

When this blog opened up originally in 2007 I inserted a term into the TOS that made clear that certain Reynolds items were going to lead to instant banhammering.  Specifically, from the TOS:

Any discussion of 9/11 "Troofer"-related nonsense on Tickerforum will result in an immediate, no-notice and permanent account (and possibly IP-level) ban. There are literally thousands of places on The Internet where you can run this sort of tripe. This is not one of them, and those who refuse to respect this constraint will have their access privileges removed.

I meant it then and it holds to this day.  Post that event I spent a decent amount of time given that the basic "graving" plans if you will for the towers were public on simulation and satisfied myself that such claims were bullshit.  There are plenty of others, including "we never went to the moon" that fall into the same category.

This virus has led to whole bunch of others that are similarly bullshit.  Some of the people running this garbage are simply crazy, but I suspect some are put up to it and do so in an attempt to brand anyone deviating from the "official story" as nuts.  Here are a few of the self-declarations of insanity, stupidity or both that that will get you tossed instantly around here with no apologies and no second chances -- along with a handful of facts that we now know really did happen because there is documentary proof of them -- and in many cases we know who's responsible too because those are the people who wrote the documents or were collecting and analyzing the data referred to in them.

  • There is no virus; this is all from 5g signals (whether vaccine-related or not.)  Bullshit.  I've done a lot of work with C and Ku-band RF over my years in industry with former jobs including writing code to control that stuff, and a number of years ago decided to go get my Ham ticket.  I took the test literally cold without studying and passed at General (missed Extra by one question, I believe.)  The existence of such ticket is public record; anyone can look, so there's no secret there.  Any such nonsense is barking from ignorance and has no place in a serious discussion, which we damned well ought to be having when it comes to a viral pathogen.

  • The jabs are designed to kill virtually everyone who gets them by (insert reason; "graphene", microchips, etc.)  BS.  Nothing is particularly ground-breaking about what has been put together.  The hubris is in believing it would work and was safe when we have decades of evidence that it is not.  That mRNA technology had failed on safety multiple times is fact.  That said failures also included the impossibility of controlling where the therapeutic went is also fact.  Moderna is not a new company and has been at this for roughly a decade with zero success.  So why now?  Simple: The research that led to the release had a warfighting element to it where safety is relative.  We allowed our government and medical crazies to take the calculations made about relatively safety that are appropriate in a war where someone has just released an intentional biological weapon and attempt to translate them into civilian use.  That was fucking stupid.

  • Georgia Guidestones, depopulation, -- Bullshit.  The so-called "elites" are wildly more-dependent on the civil order of society and its supply infrastructure than you are.  Exactly zero of their nice aircraft and yachts, for example, will run without the entire supply chain for petroleum products being intact.  They have fewer ways around this problem than you do.  A 90% reduction in society probably kills you (obviously) but does kill all of them and their offspring.  Worse, they all whine they have "no reason to live" if they lose their cushy "stuff" where you never had a 200' yacht and $20m jet airplane to lose.  They know this.  Yes, they're delusional narcissistic or even psychopathic assholes (cough-Clot-cough-cough) but there are exactly zero of them prattling on over coffee on Youslob live podcasts that will survive even a couple of weeks if social order and the production of basic things like energy, water and sanitation breaks down and they all know it.

  • Great Reset!  You can be both wild-eyed crazy and rich.  They are both, you're just crazy.  Socialism and communism in all their forms have been tried dozens of times, all of which are basically "Great Reset."  It has never worked.  Not once.  The reason is simple and obvious: You can dispossess people of everything but you can't make them work to their potential; that is not possible.  Without the motivation known as profit eventually your society stagnates, puked on itself and chokes on its own vomit.  This has happened every single time so who cares what rich, crazy assholes come up with as a means to repackage and regurgitate the six-times-chewed dogshit.  It's still dogshit and no, that's not the "motivating factor" for someone to engineer and release a virus.

  • Chyna Virus!  Bullshit.  The facts are that this was a US, European and Chinese virus and that DARPA turned down the research grant request.  They cited potential dual-use, gain-of-function and societal risks that were unaddressed, and further cited specific language that implied Ecohealth had claimed "ownership" of the bat caves in which live deployment was to take place.  Unfortunately for everyone involved in the modern era where everyone sends documents around electronically there are records and it never goes away.   In other words this entire thing occurred because a bunch of arrogant assholes thought they should and could ignore the risks involved and hoodwink the population, all for profit. That all this happened is now known fact, it is out in the public and if you don't want to look or assign "credit" where it belongs that's on you and you're part of the problem and responsible for what happened.

  • You should trust any of these assholes including Trump, the CDC, NIH and more.  Nope.  These are the same jackasses referenced above who created the fucking thing and knew immediately what it was and deliberately concealed both what it was and where it came from -- and still are refusing to come clean.  Exactly zero of said persons should be trusted with so much as a butter knife until every one of the responsible parties admits their part in it and those who knew about it and did nothing -- and worse, pushed and continue to push wartime countermeasures that are known dangerous on a civilian population after having unleashed a wartime mitigation attempt that blew up in their face are held equally accountable. In the United States alone roughly double the harm Nazi Germany and Japan did to us in WWII in terms of death have occurred and it was, to a large degree, institutions right here in the United States that were responsible.  If we ultimately get nuked for both those actions and our population-wide simpering refusal to rise up and remove those who did it and continue to lie about it we deserve that heat of a thousand suns.

  • The CDC is corrupt or inept.  Nope.  They knew within weeks exactly where this virus came from because it was already in their databases.  They have lied every day since including both Trump's and Biden's CDC titular heads.  Every single action from that day forward was not taken from ignorance it was from malice in an attempt to shield the guilty parties from diligent inquiry, exposition before the public and appropriate sanction

  • Trump was a savior!  Bullshit.  Trump either knew all of this in advance or intentionally did not read it.  He's been lying ever since.  His "China virus" nonsense and pushing of the jabs should earn him the front seat in the dock at Nuremberg II for his intentional and willful refusal to shut down a program DARPA killed and then was done by circumvention.  That's what's on the table at this point and all of it took place on his watch which makes him personally responsible as CiC.

  • If you allow anyone to mandate anything medical in this environment you're too stupid to survive and deserve what you get. If you get fucked or die as a result of taking a military, wartime mitigation when that's not what is going on you deserve it if you get screwed. If you let anyone, whether your boss, a bunch of black-robed bastards or anyone else "mandate" such a thing your death or permanently disability, which is quite likely, is on you.  laugh at every single person who is that fucking dumb, and yes, you are.  If you inject your children with this stuff you deserve Satan's cock up your ass for all eternity and you will get it too in the afterlife.  I'm sure of it.

Yeah, I can show you exactly how this goes together; what I posted the other day is enough for you to find it with a few minutes of effort.  The executive summary is enough, on the first page, standing alone to recognize what happened.  It will take longer to read the 75+ page grant proposal for the detail on that and about 2 minutes to read the DARPA rejection -- and why, which very-clearly documents how fucking stupid and arrogant what they were doing was.  It may take 30 seconds beyond that point for you to realize that basically the entire program was the responsibility of a European and multiple United States entities.  Yes, the Chinese were involved as well -- there's no absolution to be found there.

Within weeks there were pissed-off families of over 100,000 dead who had every reason to want and expect blood in exchange for their loved ones that were slaughtered as a direct result of this stupidity.  Today that number is much larger.  It takes nothing more than that to recognize that even if only one percent of said loved ones are willing to get that retribution and don't give a wild fuck how they get it that if it starts every single person involved (and plenty who are fingered but really weren't) are going to have very bad days.

That's all this is folks -- and all it ever was.

Wild-eyed corruption that blew up in their face and then of course those who take advantage of others to sell bullshit and snake oil even at the expense of even more lives, cough-pharma-cough-cough swoop in and enlist those who are branded in the media as "heroes" to sell their crap.

Exactly as has been done myriad times before, and until you stop the with the tinfoil bullshit and are willing to put a pitchfork up the ass of the responsible parties will happen again.

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Mikeyjm2 233 posts, incept 2011-10-20
2022-01-13 10:08:34

Nefarious deeds were done, no doubt. But putting forth the crazy does nothing to help in vindicating those nefarious deeds. It only serves to distract from the justice which is so richly deserved for the perpetrators of those deeds.
Bagbalm 6k posts, incept 2009-03-19
2022-01-13 10:16:39

I think you missed the "It turns you magnetic and dinnerware sticks to you." meme. It was kind of entertaining.
Abelardlindsey 2k posts, incept 2021-03-26
2022-01-13 10:16:42

Thank you, Karl, for writing this. I actually do appreciate it.

Its all in the mitochondria.

Its the future're not.
Twainfan2 1k posts, incept 2018-12-04
2022-01-13 10:23:04

This is one of the top tickers imo. All the depopulation talk and great reset talk never made any sense. Those at the top would never survive it.

Hopefully this new information filters out to the general public and starts getting serious attention. Orange man was/is bad. Hopefully he gets what he deserves along with all the rest.
Redjack 2k posts, incept 2018-01-29
2022-01-13 10:23:11

I did enjoy the magnet stuff. I kind of like crazy after a few shots.

And my life in my 20's reflected that.

To be honest, the Veritas leak has filled me with quiet rage. It makes sense, and also explains why the Joint Chiefs were talking with China.

Bastards. All of them. From the lab tech to Fauci to Trump.
Wtfishappening 121 posts, incept 2021-10-15
2022-01-13 10:24:47

Hallelujah and A FUCKING MEN! Can I have one of the pitchforks to ass rape the responsible parties?

Your never ending spree of death and violence and hate
Is gonna tie your own rope
Raven 17k posts, incept 2017-06-27
2022-01-13 10:34:24

Karl, how does one reconcile Dr. Yeadon's concern regarding the genetic payloads of the shots? I commented about it in your Veritas article and extended his concern to a logical conclusion.

The only divergence from what you are saying is that your thesis is that such a product cannot be made consistently with resultant bad outcomes possible, and Dr. Yeadon's thesis is that the product will always be made consistently unless a deliberate modification is made.

Curious as to your thoughts regarding how to reconcile this.

Will note that i am slightly concerned that Dr. Yeadon aligned to some degree with Catherine Austin Fitts as she is of the depopulation and some other Tin-like persuasions over the last decade or so. Don't know if he is influenced by this, however emotional strain can affect people's critical skills as no matter how smart and accomplished the mind looks to fill in blanks.
Mikeyjm2 233 posts, incept 2011-10-20
2022-01-13 10:41:07

I have to admit that after indulging in my favorite liquor, watching ferrous objects stick to people's bodies would be pretty damn entertaining. But yeah. No.
Tickerguy 202k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2022-01-13 10:40:35

He's wrong @Whitehat.

The DARPA proposal was solicited in a way; they have an active program to try to figure out what we do if someone unleashes a biological weapon during a time of war. It's a very difficult problem and what has kept people from doing in the past is that you're VERY likely to fuck yourself at least in part, and due to entropy you can't control what happens once it gets out.

Nonetheless IF someone is stupid enough to do it what do you do about it? Well, using mRNA you can very rapidly develop something that might produce an antigen and some protection. It's a HELL of a lot faster than ordinary recombinant protein work. The problem is that its dangerous as Hell because you're deliberately introducing the antigen-producing "thing" into the circulation in whole or part and thus deliberately bypassing all of the body's defenses against that sort of event. This isn't some new discovery, its known medical fact that has stood for well over a century!

So yeah, they had both the "gen" and "antigen" that were being worked on. Big shock eh? Not at all in a biowarfare context! But you're out of your fucking MIND to use that on a civilian population absent an active biological attack. First, you have no goddamned idea how dangerous it is but you DO know its dangerous. Second, in THIS specific case what they were TRYING to do was cut off zoonotic evolution. That's a cute idea but as DARPA pointed out it was dangerous as Hell, violated a stricture and as formatted in the proposal took too many liberties even outside of the formal "gain of function" ban to be acceptable as peacetime research for peaceful purposes. That's why they bounced it.

"Perhaps you can keep things together and advance playing DIE games.
Or perhaps the truth is that white men w/IQs >= 115 or so built all of it and without us it will collapse."
Hanssachs 171 posts, incept 2021-06-24
2022-01-13 10:42:10

I'm reminded of those species of ants that have evolved so that they are all warriors, with no foragers. Their only method of survival is to raid non-warrior ant societies and capture eggs and larvae that will grow up to be worker ants that feed and nourish the exclusively warrior-ant over class and Queen. Like Spartans dependent on helots.

The pathological global elite doesn't have to know how to grow its food or extract its oil, so long as it maintains control of the mechanism that gives it a monopoly on violence. They've upped that control in countries like Australia to an unprecedented degree. The Helots could shut it all down wi5 a general strike. Will they?

In The New Silk Roads, Peter Frankopan talks about the timing and strategy of the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union. The goal was to invade after the wheat was planted and before harvest, to capture the grain. The Nazis divided the Soviet Union into the zone of surplus and the zone of deficit, with Moscow and Leningrad in the latter category. There was not an explicit plan to kill the civilians in the latter, but there was blithe indifference to their dying of starvation when their grain supplies were transferred West.

Blithe indifference to the suffering their policies cause is a better description of the elite than deliberate mass murder or depopulation.
Onelegged 1k posts, incept 2009-11-13
2022-01-13 10:42:38

Thank you. I

At this point some of the tinfoil is starting to get polished from over use. The glare can be distracting.

I guess I can count myself among the so-corrected as I have characterized the CDC as being inept here on more than one occasion.

Hats off...

All The News That Fits, We Print.

New York Times
Dissenter 284 posts, incept 2021-05-30
2022-01-13 10:49:16


"The CDC is corrupt or inept. Nope. They knew within weeks exactly where this virus came from because it was already in their was from malice in an attempt to shield the guilty parties from diligent inquiry, exposition before the public and appropriate sanction."

I guess my definition of 'corrupt' is a little broad then.

As for the "conspiracy" theories (whatever the hell that even means now)--I respect wanting and needing to keep your site 'clean', consider myself reminded.

I would only add the consideration, that conspiracy theories are what kept many on the path to the truth here in this instance. That the stigma of negative labelling is what They use (and used with Covdud) to hide their misdeeds, malignant/nefarious intentions, etc. While some of those theories are a bit grand, they also provide the functional aspect of forcing people to challenge their assumptions and dig to prove themselves. Silencing even the most astronomical theories is risky. We have seen the results of that in spades now.

Perhaps a better method is going back to the word 'rumor', which is what they really are, which implies dispelling the rumor and launches us into the pursuit of data and fact.

Afterall TG, you are a conspiracy theorist still at this point, just like the rest of us--dont you watch the news? ;)
Likesbeer 46 posts, incept 2021-05-24
2022-01-13 10:49:30

The "viruses don't exist" people are particularly militant in their view. I can understand somebody floating it as a speculation, but what is weird is the strength of their belief, particularly as they don't typically seem super-interested in the life sciences.
Kari 61 posts, incept 2021-10-19
2022-01-13 10:59:47

Appreciate this post. I've swallowed so many handfuls of red pills the last couple years, when I thought I was already pretty red-pilled, but I still can't figure out certain things, mostly about intent/purpose. Most of the conspiracy theories don't help clarify anything at all. It's even harder when everyone in an official position is lying and I'm trying to read between the lines or figure out the truth in some other roundabout way.

My basic assumptions have been that covid is real, it was leaked from the lab, created by US/China etc, not sure if the leak was intentional or not. I've concluded taking the mRNA vaccine is a bad idea, that early therapeutics would have stopped the pandemic, and that most of the deaths were needless. The death rate seems low, but on the other hand, the tests don't seem to be accurate, so the case counts are likely inflated, and the deaths are too, based on what constitutes a covid-death, and this drives me nuts, because what IS the true death rate? It wouldn't make a different to me personally with regard to the vaccine, but it would still be nice to know. Plus, it appears officials have gone out of their way to funnel us all toward vaccines as the only possible answer to the pandemic, to hide any vaccine-related deaths/side effects, and now to punish those of us who refuse. But I don't totally understand their intent with that one.
Frat 14k posts, incept 2009-07-15
2022-01-13 11:11:56

Agreed, completely. I think I posted similar thoughts in The Bar that I had when taking my morning Fauci, before realizing you had done this Ticker. Our country's fingerprints are all over this, along with CHY-NA. Even if Trump was misled (and I'm sure as shit not arguing he was, because fuck him and his warp speed), it was HIS JOB to know.

The blowback from this SHOULD be the beginning of the end, but I can just see 9 black robed bastards - likely in 5-4 fashion - upholding Brandon's mandate to go full steam ahead to that washed-out bridge. They do not, cannot, and WILL not admit they fucked up. It's not in their *weak-ass* character, so we all suffer the consequences.

We're fucked. There will be no happy ending here; there is no going back to 'normal.'. There are only bad outcomes and worse outcomes. And we don't get to choose those, either.
Cmoledor 3k posts, incept 2021-04-13
2022-01-13 11:11:58


The whole world is one big fucking scam
Its a big club and we aint in it. But we damn sure pay the dues. Rangeishot
God will NOT help anyone. Prayer is only worthwhile as a boost to
Ocdawg 574 posts, incept 2019-03-14
2022-01-13 11:12:07


Note- Just watched Captain Shits-My-Pants SLUR through another "mask up/vaxx up you unvaccinated filth, you're killing everyone" speech. I'm not sure what pissed me off more... that he still speaks at all (if you can decipher it) or jabs/masks save lives mantra that's being destroyed by the hour. As is Joey's cognitive self... it's literally gone, and Princess Knee-Pads will be sworn in before Easter (IMHO).



Again, the same drivel: if you're unvaxxed, you 17 times more likely to die. BULLSHIT!!! I've had all 3 variants, natural immunity works... 368 consecutive cardio days and counting.

So, to Karl's point and what do you do with MURDERERS:


"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."- George Carlin
GO DAWGS!!! Quietly reloading.....

Reason: Link
Bobbichen 6 posts, incept 2022-01-02
2022-01-13 11:12:12

Dissenter: Not only a conspiracy theorist, but a "misogynist, racist, extremist" per Turdeau. I can't help but think that Turdeau would've been more credible if he had put his blackface on for the fifth time and groped an underage drama student of his while he stated that.
Mikeyjm2 233 posts, incept 2011-10-20
2022-01-13 11:12:20

Plus, it appears officials have gone out of their way to funnel us all toward vaccines as the only possible answer to the pandemic, to hide any vaccine-related deaths/side effects, and now to punish those of us who refuse. But I don't totally understand their intent with that one.

I don't either. My best guess is that it was just a convenient way for those who were already predisposed to let their inner totalitarian impulses out.
Mosaik 232 posts, incept 2021-09-10
2022-01-13 11:12:26


Very well expressed.
Bzelbob 501 posts, incept 2021-09-12
2022-01-13 11:21:28

The CDC is corrupt or inept. Nope. They knew within weeks exactly where this virus came from because it was already in their databases.

Thank you! This^. The "Experts" had to know something was up, and more importantly they had *data* to confirm it.

Also, I just want to add to what you've said in that there are a great number of people across the web (i.e not just on 4chan),
who seem to get perverse thrills in trolling folks and seeing how much bullshit they can get them to swallow...
QAnon anyone?...FlatEarthers?...Etc...

I think the most surprising thing is that the trolls and bullshit artists seem to outnumber the rational minded about 100 to 1.
I would encourage those here to *always challenge* what you hear or are told.

Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations.
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason
and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.
- Buddha (maybe? maybe not?)

"Threats are illogical. And payment is usually expensive." - Sarek of Vulcan
Dissenter 284 posts, incept 2021-05-30
2022-01-13 11:36:44

And the veil falls again.

This Karl. This is what happens and why nothing will be done about what has been done. The answer to your last half dozen posts.

Somebody releases an document of assumed legitimacy that puts people back in their comfort zones and bam, everthing explained, seems reasonable---can you believe all that crazy stuff? I wasnt fooled for a minute. Government and Corporations will govern and corporate I guess.

Vaxxes for a pandemic? Seems pretty reasonable to me, besides it gets us back to normal. Can you believe people actually think a vaccine would give you heart attacks? Or cancer? Or that horse dewormer would cure you??? Lol.

My side, your side, my beliefs, your beliefs.

"The "viruses don't exist" people are particularly militant in their view."

Are they. What are their positions? What do they cite as evidence for them? What is the counter evidence? Accepted theory? Hmmm.

"I guess I can count myself among the so-corrected as I have characterized the CDC as being inept here on more than one occasion."

So what do we consider the CDC at this point, exactly? Asking for a friend.

"I have to admit that after indulging in my favorite liquor, watching ferrous objects stick to people's bodies would be pretty damn entertaining. But yeah. No."

Funny, wasnt too entertaining at the time, well CNN thought it was funny I guess.

And the roll goes on. Guess I know why Spooks Malone and the leftist mouthpiece Naomi Milf has jumped on that doc now. Thanks for clearing that up for me folks.

Still, if I need any hope that things will go back to normal I can always come back to the comments here. I appreciate that, truly.

Banhammer away. It was inevitable. Afterall---


Erj 158 posts, incept 2021-08-15
2022-01-13 11:37:42

Hope i don't get bammed but
I read another site Jon Rappaport who I find as interesting as here..he believes the virus has never been isolated or sequenced except on a computer screen and can support his conviction with convincing data..but after that part he is totally with you or very close.

Me I would love to know the truth nothing but the truth..

I am curious your thoughts why all the governments that were involved with this choose mandates and then choose to piss on a percentage of their population to the point of wanting to take their livihoods away..what is their point? Is it pure evil or are they really that afraid of the virus and the unva$$ed?
Chescocatholic 103 posts, incept 2021-10-13
2022-01-13 11:37:52

Thank for the reminder, TG. I get tired at all the "Great Reset/Davos/WEF/Georgia Guide stones" bs. And it shames me to say that it's becoming more prevalent in the right-wing, evangelical and Catholic crowds than it was before. So many Christians have latched on to this "mark of the beast" nonsense and see this as their sign of The End Times Be Near!

To me, it's been about power and control. Period. The political class saw an opportunity to consolidate more power for themselves and exert more control over their respective populations (vax mandates, passports, etc) and don't aim to get off the roller coaster ride until the operator (the citizenry) puts the brakes on it by force. And since the operator is largely well-fed, comfortable, and entertained, I don't see anything happening any time soon.
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