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C'mon folks.

First, it's illegal for the German government to bail out Deutsche Bank.  That's one of the (few) changes made in the EU post-2008, and it has gone into effect.

However, they can be bailed in.

Now let's talk about what that means, and why in fact it's worthless in a situation like this.

A bail-in would destroy the stockholder equity (first), then bondholder equity which is converted to stock.  That sounds ok but there's a problem with it.

It works roughly like this: There are multiple "tranches" of bonds with various seniority associated with them.  This is done so the institution pays less to borrow on the "higher" (or "Senior") tranches, because the lower ones are wiped out first before the Senior bonds take any loss.

The issue that arises is that all these institutions "engineer" their tranching through various machinations (including default swaps and similar) so that most of their debt issue is "Senior" or "Super-Senior."  They do this to reduce their borrowing costs but the question becomes whether that "protection" is actually effective, and the only way it is effective is if the mathematical models used to derive that alleged risk are accurate.

This is exactly what was done with the various securitized mortgages from "subprime" lenders, incidentally -- and we know how accurate those models were, right?

It works if the losses are modest because the lower tranches are literally wiped out and the more-senior ones are protected.  The problem comes if you can't satisfy the financial requirements with those subordinate debt tranches because your modeled risk profile turns out to be dog squeeze -- then the senior tranches get hit.

If these tranches are invaded you will get an immediate run on prime brokerage and other "depository" style accounts because the buyers of those "senior" debt tranches bought them with the full expectation that they were not 50%, not 80%, not 90% but 100% safe and as soon as that belief is invalidated the brown smelly stuff will hit the airmoving device at very high speed.

Indeed a mere belief that such an invasion will happen is probably enough to set off the exodus because once you get into the senior tranches the risk rises above zero that depositors will get hit.  And finally, and most-troublesome, unlike with a traditional operating company any such exodus from a bank itself further erodes the bank's capital base and thus is additive to the pressure and the senior tranche loss risk!

Finally, remember that utterly nobody who lied about the solvency of their institutions went to prison after 2008.  Nor did any central bank personnel who lied about "subprime being contained."  For this reason you cannot believe any such statement from anyone without strict proof, and given the (intentional) opacity of risk in these institutions strict proof is impossible to come by.

So yes, it is not as simple -- or as "safe" -- as people think it is.

This situation is definitely unstable, and if anyone thinks "balance sheets" are ok I will remind you that I was not in 2008 and still cannot possibly analyze any of the European banks on any sort of consolidated basis when derivative exposure and other means of hiding contingent liabilities are included, and those liabilities must be included in the event confidence in the underlying institution -- or group of institutions -- is lost.

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Gee, so listening to the hearing today I am thunderstruck about how a million or two million ripped-off consumers is such a big deal, eh?

Well, indeed it is.

Several critters today have made the facial case that the conduct involved here meets the definition of Racketeering, and it certainly appears to me that it does.

But there seems to be this idea that conduct like this is novel, or that people are being "compensated" or "taken care of" if they were screwed.

Really?

May I ask who is taking care of all the people who live in Jefferson County Alabama?

You do remember that, right, and my multiple articles on it spanning years, yes?  A county where, due to deficiencies in its sewer system, officials bribed various entities including those associated with a major US bank in a swap deal that ultimately screwed the rate-payers to the tune of permanently tripling their water and sewer bills.

Some officials actually went to jail -- that is, they were convicted of crimes -- not just accused, as is the case here with Wells.

But guess what?  Bank management never was indicted or tried.  Worse, to a large degree the other side of those swaps kept the money and the rate-payers, that is, all the people who live there, are still screwed to the tune of tripled water bills and will remain screwed forever.

"Taken care of" eh?  You mean, serviced -- without lube, and up the back door, right?

Wells is not isolated; it is in fact endemic among large banks.  Virtually all of them participated in suborning or committing perjury with bogus foreclosure documents as just one of dozens of examples.  If you want a particularly outrageous example of outrageously illegal conduct Wachovia was caught (and admitted) committing mass money laundering for Mexican drug gangs to the tune of more than $370 billionA dispassionate analysis of the cases brought against large institutions finds that virtually all have either pled guilty, "not admitted or denied guilt" and paid fines on at least three separate occasions where the underlying conduct is a felony and thus all should be subject to the same "three strikes" law you would be if you committed three felonies of any sort.  Yet not one of these institutions has been shut down and not one executive has been indicted say much less imprisoned -- and this is no accident, it is intentional, willful misconduct by our government up and down the line from "regulators" to prosecutors on both sides of the aisle including but not limited to the FBI, SEC, FDIC, (now) CFPB, OCC, (what was) OTS and more.

So tell me this -- given all the so-called "outrage" in Congress, the fact that (as noted) Wells, along with all the other big banks, have been serially fined and investigated over and over again for various unsavory and unlawful practices, that such has resulted in real, material, permanent and in many cases ongoing financial harm yet exactly zero of these large executives have been indicted, prosecuted and imprisoned may I ask why you, dear reader, are willing to abide any law, produce any taxable income and give any sort of respect, deference or support to any branch of government or law enforcement?

PS: Yes, these same banks and "investment managers" are the ones you should trust when you buy Spamazon stock at 230x earnings.  What could possibly go wrong with that, and if it did and the "adviser", "analyst" and/or "media folks" on CNBS were proved to have known it was all horsecrap they'd certainly be punished and go to jail for screwing you out of your retirement - right? smiley

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2016-09-28 11:41 by Karl Denninger
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The Senate has voted overwhelmingly to override President Obama's veto of the state-accountability terrorism bill (which will permit holding nations accountable, in court, for terrorist incidents they help fund or support.)

It now heads to The House where it will almost-certainly also pass overwhelmingly, and become law.

Saudi Arabia has issued a number of threats related to this legislation.

May Saudi Arabia take it up the cornhole; it's not like their government officials and connected persons don't have assets over here that can be seized to satisfy judgments, say much less the simple way to do so: Seize their "book form" Treasuries and transfer them to the winners in the sure-to-be-filed court cases.

It's about damn time.

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C'mon folks.

Deutsche Bank is on the verge of collapse.  Let me remind you that back at the time of the financial crisis in 2007/08 I wrote specifically about them, calling the firm repeatedly DoucheBank as they had an utterly ridiculous derivative exposure compared against their capital.  In fact they made US bank exposure in this regard look like the work of pikers.

Not only has nobody done a thing about that in our markets Germany, I remind you, urged them to expand their exposure -- and they have.  In addition total credit market debt has expanded by $57 trillion since 2007, a close to 40% increase!  GDP, on the other hand, has gone up nowhere near as much.  Indeed, global government debt has roughly doubled since 2008 -- to $59 trillion.

One of the largest increases has been in college student loans, which are up a staggering 130% since 2007 in the United States alone.

The problem is that economic expansion -- that is, the common output of the economy, has not matched debt expansion.  Not even close.  This is an unsustainable practice since without output expanding at a rate that exceeds expansion of debt you must eventually stop or the economy will contract even though debt is expanding, and once that begins to occur it is a black-hole event horizon from which you cannot escape until virtually everyone who is in debt has been liquidated and those who hold that debt will take monstrous losses -- in many cases 100% losses!

When Donald Trump said in the debate that we were in a huge bubble he was exactly correct -- we are.  We are in a bubble where market prices for stocks have risen dramatically, housing has gone up to a material (and unsustainable) degree, and the embedded but not measured in inflation statistical data cost of living (e.g. medical) has risen at a ridiculous rate as well.  Trump has repeatedly charged that policy from The Fed, which is largely responsible for this bubble, is political in nature; whether that's the case or it has simply resulted from Fed hubris (which Greenspan and Bernanke both displayed in abundance and only Greenspan has admitted to) is immaterial to the outcome.

This deterioration has been reflected in labor productivity, which has now gone negative.  But that's just one small place that we can measure; the other places are not measured but have far more impact.  Nonetheless, that the impact has managed to filter into unit labor productivity and costs is especially troubling.

Remember that bank leverage in the form of derivative exposure is what made the crash in 2008 happen.  Lehman, alone, blowing up was no big deal -- companies fail all the time and Lehman, in terms of size, employee count and economic impact was a literal non-event.

It was the threat of cross-default on derivatives that took down the markets and the economy, and we now have it happening again but nobody is talking about it.

If you think Germany can bail out Deutsche Bank you're delusional.  Their total derivative exposure grossly exceeds the entire net value of everything in Germany!  Not just the government's resources, all private resources as well!  In other words even if the government wanted to bail them out, even if they'd survive bailing them out politically they can't, even if they attempted to confiscate everything of value within the nation.

Beware.

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https://presidentialopenquestions.com/questions/3457/vote/

Right there folks.

Go ahead, click the link, upvote it.

Maybe it gets asked.  smiley

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