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2021-08-21 07:00 by Karl Denninger
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Now the CDC wants everyone to line up for a third round of clot-shot lottery.

Note carefully: The Israel data says this will fail and kill lots of people.

Aran’s message for the United States and other wealthier nations considering boosters is stark: “Do not think that the boosters are the solution.”

That's right.  They're not.

Delta may be more-transmissible but if you're immune it does not matter how transmissible a virus is.  You either can or cannot be infected.  It's binary.  If you're immune then you're immune.  If you're not then you're not.  If you have had Chicken Pox (I have) you'd look at anyone telling you to take a chicken pox shot as if they had six heads because such a suggestion is flat-out bat****-crazy-level insanity.

The idea that somehow Delta "can" break through immunity because it is more transmissible is flat-out scientific fraud and everyone who says that and has any knowledge of viruses and immunity knows it.  They're lying, on purpose, and every one of them deserves to be locked up in GITMO as a ****ing terrorist and waterboarded to within an inch of their lives.

The reason Delta is "breaking through" is either due to OAS or the fact that the vaccines never did work worth a crap in the first place to prevent you from getting infected.  Their "efficacy" was a lie but whether its due to mutational reality or the fact that we claimed "effectiveness" simply due to herd effects with the existing circulating strains at the time does not matter.

My suspicion is that there is a blend of both going on here and there is science to back that up; the mutational pattern that we have seen and the science behind it says that evasion is happening.  The "wild coding" used originally and to this day for the jabs is long-extinct; there is basically zero of that circulating anymore in the population.  It has all been subsumed by ordinary mutational process and we had every reason to believe this would happen when Covid-19 first showed up because it has happened with every other coronavirus we have studied through history -- including the closest analog SARS-1 which mutated itself out of transmission and being a threat to people.

This is much like what happens with the flu shot every year: They have to guess which specific flu strains and mutations will show up in advance.  They're never right.  Their match varies in effectiveness but is basically never 100%.  Get it (sort of) right, you get decent protection.  Get it wrong you get little or nothing.

Except: Every coronavirus in history has mutated at a high rate in the spike domain.  All of them.  We knew this and we ALSO knew before the first shot went into the first arm the strain against which the vaccines were developed -- all of them -- was extinct in the wild, having been out-competed by said mutations.

We lied about the effectiveness by taking advantage of a peak in infections for the circulating strains last winter that was already in the past.  It was a knowing, intentional lie used to get 150+ million Americans to do something with waning toward worthless effectiveness but with 100x higher risk than the ordinary flu shot or, for that matter, any other vaccine in history.

The match has continued to degrade; it is biologically impossible to win that "arms race" as the virus will continue to change, and attempting to jab people with repeat inoculations as the match gets worse and worse over time simply adds to the risk of serious adverse events including clotting, strokes and heart damage.   Note that despite knowing this there has been no change made to the formulations.  What are you going to do -- throw all the existing doses and pipeline for them in the trash every time a new mutation shows up?

What we did was fight a war that cannot be won by the means employed and any honest person knows it.  The entire ****ing government and medical apparatus knew this, lied about it and continues to lie today.  All of them.

They KNOW they're full of ****.

Rather than accept this fact and focus our attention on determining the most-effective ways to interdict infections early in people with a goal of allowing the infection to course its way through the population while not killing the victims or sending them to the hospital we instead took an utterly insane approach that focused on the idea that we could prevent people from getting the virus at all.  Whether that was masks (worthless since the virus is a tiny fraction of the size of the filter media and goes right through it), lockdowns (pointless; all you do is delay the inevitable) and now vaccines we keep being beaten around the head and shoulders by the virus which follows the laws of physics and undergoes natural mutation whether we like it or not.

I believed I might have had Covid-19 in January of 2020, even though I tested negative for antibodies several months later.  As it turns out my later antibody testing (negative) was correct and not a defective test; whatever I had in January of 2020 it was not Covid-19.

But now having had Covid-19 (almost-certainly Delta too) and knowing damn well it was Covid-19, and surviving it, it is a clearly-distinct infection that I could not possibly mistake for anything else.  That I was infected with Covid-19 is known scientific fact as I was previously IgG negative as of a couple months ago but now, following recovery from said suspected infection, am IgG positive.

Having had the infection and now having found IgG antibodies by test I am now known robustly immune to any and all variants; the immunity built from natural infection is conserved across the various epitopes of the virus in all cases because the "N" portion of the virus, which has to remain more-or-less intact for it to be able to be a virus, forms the backbone and bulk of the immune response built following natural infection.

I am not afraid of Covid-19 at any level any longer.  I am the exact person you want to employ to work in a hospital or nursing home full of very high-risk persons for severe Covid-19 because I am sterile to the virus; I can neither get it or give it to anyone.  Of course we would have to negotiate terms; money is not, I suspect, among the ones hospitals and nursing homes would have trouble with.

This is not true for any of the vaccines, it was a critical error in what we did and it is why we are now seeing escape.  It is not breakthrough folks, it is escape due to mismatch between the coded antibodies and circulating virus and it will both continue and accelerate as the match inexorably continues to degrade between what circulates and the original "wild type" out of Wuhan, which is what's coded in ALL the jabs and which is long extinct.  What's worse is that if OAS or ADE really come out to play on top of it then if you have not been naturally infected and have been jabbed you are in for a world of **** if you get challenged by the virus in the wild.  Even very, very small enhancement percentages from ADE-style reactions can completely overwhelm any sort of treatment possibility at all.

We do not yet know if this is happening as we are deliberately not autopsying and investigating cases where someone was vaccinated, got infected anyway and then rapidly crashed going from being moderately ill to in an ICU or dead within 72 hours.  There are multiple reports of this happening already.  If this was someone who had a defective immune response then that's very unfortunate but it does happen.  We had damned well better prove that, however, and we're not going the pathology work to do so.  If it turns out that said person did in fact build a proper immune response then these cases are either OAS or ADE-enhanced disease and while this outcome is clearly not universal in those who got jabbed if it is happening even once in a while we had better figure it out right ****ing now or there is going to be a pile of dead bodies this fall and winter and it will be the direct responsibility of those who advocated for and in fact are trying to, in many cases, FORCE mass-jabbing of the population that caused it.

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There are news reports circulating that are saying the FDA is expected to approve the Pfizer injections for regular use early next week - Monday or Tuesday. If that happens, then what level of stupidity, incompetence, malfeasance, and/or fill in the blank, are we looking at then?
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That's easy: A full-court press full of stupidity, and this fall and winter a giant ****ing pile of dead bodies.

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Was in Sams Club yesterday. I would say 95% had a face diaper on. Ive lost all hope that any sanity will return.
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There are some encouraging anecdotes that the boosters are causing some to open their eyes--particularly the buffoonish way they have gone about it. They should've started talking up the possibility of a future need for boosters from the beginning, rather than saying as recently as May that there was no need for them. They've basically gone through a little act portraying surprise and careful following of the data, but in reality, they've projected cluelessness. And announcing the boosters before the approval of vaccination for 6-11 year olds might save a few thousand of them if it makes their parents hold off.

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In a couple of years time, I fully expect the case fatality rate of multiply-jabbed people to approach that of very old, immune compromised individuals. Why? Because immune priming - OAS - has been implicated in very serious cases of COVID. Many of those people had antibodies to seasonal coronaviruses like OC43 but importantly, at the same time, no T-cell immunity to N-protein. That lack of T-cells against N-protein was also associated with increased severity. This is the scenario that we are setting up with multiple boosters. People will be primed for the original Wuhan strain, but in a few year's time, there will be variants that are even more distant to that than any of the existing strains. And since the vaccines only code the spike, there will be no T-cell immunity to N-protein to fall back on. The end result will be that upon infection with these future variants, the immune system will simply recall antibodies against Wuhan-1, which don't neutralize but only bind to the that variant, resulting in nasty ADE on top of OAS. Further, the immune memory recall will also include the auto-immune antibodies that cause blood clots even if the new variant has lost the mimicry that the original strain had against thrombopoietin.

The end result will be a 5% to 10% case fatality rate for EVERYONE who has been multiply jabbed, this number increasing with each jab taken. If the authorities manage to coerce 150 million people to take that many jabs, expect 10 million of them to be dead within 3 years. And we haven't even talked about the worsening side-effects with each jab, and the resulting injury and death from them.


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"I believed I might have had Covid-19 in January of 2020, even though I tested negative for antibodies several months later. As it turns out my later antibody testing (negative) was correct and not a defective test; whatever I had in January of 2020 it was not Covid-19."

I can't tell you, the amount of folks I know (Myself included) that had heavy travel for convention work around that time. MANY of them came down with "Something" in Jan / Feb that was not a flu, not a cold, not food poisoning.

I have no doubts, there was an earlier version of this thing floating around and what "They" said was the 1st wave, was really a mutation wave.
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I don't think so @Thelazer.

My guess is that it was H1N1, which WAS circulating that year.

And as I've pointed out between the two that one was a LOT WORSE and came closer to killing me than Delta Coof did. It laid my ass out in bed for several days with me chomping Ricolas as ****ing candy and NASTY lung involvement.

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There was also a big outbreak of HKU1 in January of 2020, maybe that is what got Karl.

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Maybe.

Whatever it was, it was EVIL. But exactly nobody went bat**** crazy over anyone having it.

Sarah got it too and it kicked her ass as well.

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When/if the FDA approves this week, expect another big push for mandates.

DO NOT FOLD.

40% of Americans have stood strong against the propaganda, both carrots (no more face diapers) and sticks (social exclusion, threats of firings, etc.). The FDA approval is the last card they have to play. And doing so will come at great cost, as it destroys whatever integrity the FDA had before (which wasn't much) at risk, putting the whole drug/medical industry in jeopardy.

Don't let nobody buffalo you into taking the clot shot.

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No way in Hades will those who hyped, lied and coerced the masses to line up and demand their own destruction will ever come clean. This includes the lying media, gov agencies, big pharma-medical complex, and so forth. They all know the truth. But they also know the masses are called the masses for a reason. And not known for their collective intellect. They know that those who the jab won't ever accept they were duped. Just this week, 3 senators got covid post-jab and (predictably) said words to the effect of "the jab kept it from getting worse".

Can you imagine the hordes of covid-cultish-karens suddenly awakening from their dogmatic slumber?

Neither can I.

Prepare yourselves.

Winter is coming.
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Long time lurker here. January 2020, was in a training class in Virginia and a respiratory virus went through the class like a wildfire. Flu tests were taken but they were all negative. I had gone through H1N1 before, back in 2009, this was a milder case but showed symptoms of shortness of breath, brain fog, fever, chills, some diarrhea, and exhaustion. Three months later, I had an antibody test done that showed little Igg activity for Covid but a good amount of Igm activity. Did I go through it?
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Something in early 2020 kicked my butt also. I rarely got sick, but whatever it was made even muscle in my body sore. When I woke up every day, I was planning every step for the day in my mind, since I knew it would suck. Imagine not working out for a month, then doing a very hard workout that hits every muscle group, then dealing with the soreness 2 days later. It was about twice as bad as that. I had extreme fatigue too.

I finally got a fever about 3 degrees above normal, and things got better after that, but it took me a month or more to get back to my normal lifts.

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There can't be any legitimate basis for FDA to grant approval of this kill shot. It will be interesting to see, that's for sure. Even if "approved" I won't take it. Sad to say, the pile of dead bodies can't come quickly enough if it will help at all to wake people up, but judging by the masked masses there isn't really much hope for that, sigh...
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They could have gone down the road of mandatory feed bags instead of face diapers.

That would have cut the death rate from the China virus by about 75%, and saved hundreds of billions in medical expenditures per year, since so many ailments are related to obesity. But no, they had to attempt this power play and profit train for Pfizer.

By the way, Pfizer sat on the results on the vaccine until the week after the election to help Biden. Why isn't that either criminal conspiracy or an in-kind political contribution? Some people also think the early criticism of the J&J clot shot was to funnel more idiots towards the Pfizer shot as sort of a "payoff" to Pfizer for their "help" during the election.


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Regarding ADE/ODE/etc. As KD says "mother nature bats last". The only question that remains is how big her strap-on will be this winter.

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Anyone notice that the article about Israel is still heavily pushing for getting vaxxed though. The answers are right there on the page and they still cannot refrain.

On a different note, there is a pretty good interview of Dr Zelenko by AJ no less. Zelenko drops a bombshell about what specifically happened to short circuit hcq availability ordered by Trump. He names names which surprised me since it sounds like an actual illegal conspiracy to deny alternative early treatment...most likely to get the EUAs.
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I don't think I've had the coof, and I've done nothing to try to avoid it. We're all going to get it, or some variant thereof, until we are immune. It appears those who have taken the jabs will also get it. And those who got it, then got the jabs, may get it again due to the jabs ruining their immunity. It's a nasty cold virus. Most will survive it, some won't. That's life. None of us is getting out of this world alive.

I have no idea why sane people are so afraid. How many have already successfully fought cancer and heart disease and other maladies and yet are irrationally afraid of the coof? Every day is a gift from God. Living in fear will reduce lifespans just due to the increased stress on the body.
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I had something Jan 2020 very similar to what Karl describes as well. I did test positive for flu A at the time, so I'm pretty sure it was H1N1. Caught the coof almost a year later. Whatever hit me Jan 2020 was worse but didn't linger like the coof. Just had a close exposure to someone sick, and natural immunity held up 7 months down the road. When at the doc for the test they said people with prior infections are all over the board with antibodies. Some don't show any after 3-4 months and some people who had it last year are reading as high as the test goes.
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In a diabolic, machiavellian way, I wonder if some officials are pushing extreme & insane "vaccine" measures for the purpose of pushing too far and eliciting a public revolt.

The # who refuse any jab is 25%. A good size minority sufficient to be a speed bump, but insufficient to stop the crazy. The # that will refuse a booster is likely 40 to 60 percent. That pushes the "stop the stupid" population to 75% and that is a massive majority that will force political change.

With the Afghan pullout, we know with certainty Joe Biden is guilty of grave indifference to human life. He does not care if you die, he only cares about appearing to be in power. Fauci is the same.

A growing number of Americans are connecting the dots and are beginning to feel the horror of what these men have done and are willing to do.

The media is evil, but the individuals in the media business are selfish enough to want to live. The tide against this madness will turn.

And if it doesn't, prepare yourselves for unspeakable horrors as any pretense of civility crumbles away.
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Morning all. Another fine article from Karl. Always how I start my mornings anymore. One suggestion though. Can you put more **** words in your writings? Its my favorite word ! Lol. Keep up the great work Karl. And fellow readers as well. Good day to all.

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I am never afraid to use the work **** when the work **** is called for, and this time those ****ing ****ers all deserved to be ****ed in their eye sockets until the jizz rolls out their nostrils.


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Karl!!! Lmao!!!!

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