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2023-09-11 08:28 by Karl Denninger
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Yet Another 9/11 ....
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Is it all fake and gay?

Well, no.  But the people who run much of the garbage on this day not only dishonor the dead they in addition create more dead, and give license to the further killing.

Do recall that just a few days ago the stenographers, all breathless, pronounced that "climate change, and we, the evil men and women of the planet", were the reason there was going to be a 200mph hurricane in the Atlantic -- Lee.

This morning Lee stands at 120mph, allegedly if you believe the NHC.  The same NHC that claimed a couple of weeks ago that a Cat 3 (and shortly before a Cat 4) struck the Florida Gulf coast despite the eye of said storm going over the government's buoy at Keaton Beach, which I watched happen live on radar, and said buoy recorded this:

Proof that indeed the eye did go over the buoy is quite-clearly displayed; the wind rises dramatically as the eye goes over, and then it goes to near-zero, before rising again. Note the maximum sustained wind and gust speeds.

Further the land-based damage of a nasty, 120mph+ wind hurricane was, well...... absent.

There was plenty of flooding, but that's to be expected in that area from any tropical system since the land there is very low to the water and people have built up businesses and homes without any material elevation above said water level.  That's a human decision but it has nothing to do with human energy generation using carbon -- except that the A/C system in said building probably relies on same.

We're told that the world is all systemic racism in the United States but a professor was just fired for faking data -- twenty years of said data, six major academic journal articles and the source of over 8,500  citations by other researches were all....... FRAUDS.

This was all ridiculously profitable too: $3.5 million in grants from major organizations and taxpayer funds were received as a result of these "blockbuster" revelations -- all of which were false.

Oh by the way he had a personal stake in these claims, being black himself.

Is that all?  Of course not.  There's also a breathless alleged 'discovery' of a huge lithium deposit along the border of Nevada and Oregon.  Except..... we've known its there for quite a while; its hardly a "discovery."  The reason it hasn't been exploited is that there is no way to do it at an economically reasonable price point without despoiling the environment.  And we're ignoring the elephant in the room with lithium already, which is that there is no economically-reasonable way to recycle the spent batteries using this chemistry, and yet everyone and their brother thinks we should do that rather than use vehicles that don't contain that rather-nasty  one-time-through energy storage device.

This is of course justified with the claim that we are in an "emergency."

But 9/11 was an emergency too, wasn't it?  Indeed; a bunch of nutjobs crashing planes into buildings on purpose is reasonably called an emergency.  3,000 people died as a result, and that would be a qualification as well.

But nobody went to prison for enabling it, did they?  You know, like the Governor of Florida at the time, who was responsible for policies that included giving the hijackers driver licenses despite not being citizens or lawful permanent residents?  Those were the credentials used to buy the tickets and board the aircraft.  Nor did anyone in the FBI or DOJ go to prison for deliberately blowing off the guy down in Venice who, owning a flight simulator, called them to report that a bunch of dudes with towels wrapped around their heads were buying time with cash and didn't want to know how to land a plane.

As if that all wasn't bad enough we didn't jail a President (Boooooosh!) who let a bunch of Saudi citizens leave on private aircraft after the event while the entire US airspace was locked down -- people who, it later was learned, were almost-certainly involved in distributing the funds with which said simulator time and other elements of the plan were funded!

And then, of course, rather than take our wrath out on Saudi Arabia, which was proved to be the source of the funds for such, we instead invented a complete lie that Iraq, which indeed had committed an act of war on Kuwait previously, was going to acquire a nuclear bomb, blows us all to Hell and therefore this justified slaughtering a bunch of people there including a bunch of kids who obviously had nothing to do with any of it even if Iraq had been guilty, which it was not.

You'll have to pardon me if I shrug at this, even though someone I knew quite well at the time escaped being turned into dust or incinerated in the Twin Towers by mere luck of a few hours that day.  The number of insults to anyone of even median intelligence have continued for over 20 years since, including all manner of false claims about the buildings being intentionally blown up, and as I've pointed out in my FAQ and several previous columns anyone running that garbage on my little piece of the Internet will be instantly and permanent banned.


Because its a convenient foil to avoid taking responsibility for what we all really did do and are responsible for, including letting our government participate in the escape of legitimate co-conspirators in the attacks, refusal to prosecute justice against Saudi Arabia for a debt that remains outstanding for 3,000 American lives, the slaughter of uninvolved children in Iraq in the years that followed and then, having gotten away with all of this for money all manner of even more-serious and more-deadly insults since, including the last three years.

Oh by the way, those last three years have plenty of relevant and involved parties right here in the United States.  How many are under arrest or in prison for their part in it?  That's zero, right?  Somehow I just can't get excited anymore about today when an event with three hundred times the casualty rate, with guilty parties both inside and outside the United States, all of which was very profitable for the "properly connected" whether politically or in various lines of business, has been waved off and swept under the rug.

Yeah, its 9/11 folks.

But given the body count and deliberate destruction of both our economy and people over the last two decades, all on the back of false claims, you'll have to excuse me if I don't consider 3,000 to be a very large number anymore.

When you get down to facts, the facts are -- it isn't.

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Greenacr 897 posts, incept 2016-03-15
2023-09-11 09:04:51

Another dead-on Ticker.

Yesterday, my wife and I went to see the travelling 9/11 Memorial parked at Seneca East High School in Attica, Ohio. Almost nobody was there and the few that were in attendance were like my wife and myself ..... older than age 60. Talking to the caretaker he said that this is representative of what they experience as they take the travelling roadshow across the country.

A nice memorial that brings back memories of the event. I have not forgotten but it seems as though many have. We are lost as a country.
Tritumi 2k posts, incept 2008-11-29
2023-09-11 09:23:38

The butcher's bill is years from a final tally

While the butchers freely roam

Striking where they please.
Shadowmask 6k posts, incept 2021-05-24
2023-09-11 09:23:42

I'm in my late 40s and don't care except feeling really bad for the folks who died.

Then we pissed on their graves by using their deaths to strip civil liberties, lie, and gin up a war.

We have a million dead from the Coof Wars--so far. That number will rise as people continue to thud. No one cares about that, either.

The learning curve for being dead is steep, but everyone gets it down pat on the first go usually.--Thystra, March 28, 2023
Evergreen 363 posts, incept 2021-12-26
2023-09-11 09:35:06

Go to an airport, get scanned or patted down by TSA. 9/11.

Manage money in your bank account, show up on a radar. 9/11.

Post comments on a social board, show up on a radar. 9/11.

Life, everyday life, is policed as though 9/11-II is around the corner. That's not a way to live. That's how you create Karens, real neurotics, that become the clone army enforcers of state compliance orders.
Russell 19 posts, incept 2022-02-27
2023-09-11 09:35:15

Do not forget we had to fly half way around the planet for a fist bump.
Cmoledor 2k posts, incept 2021-04-13
2023-09-11 09:35:21

Its all a scam. 9-11 was not. But the responses to it were. Good God every bit of it. I do care people are dead. I dont care if this gubmint gets buried for the shit theyve pulled. Its not a gubmint as youve pointed out. Its an occupying force. Am I to cry when they get theirs? Hardly.

The whole world is one big fucking scam
Full throttle till the end. Ocdawg
Take the stick you tried to beat me with and go fuck your own face. Ishmael
Zek157 276 posts, incept 2009-03-05
2023-09-11 09:39:03

Was working in the building when flight 77 hit the other side. With a higher trajectory, I would have most likely left a widow with 2 kids. Also knew someone flying to San Diego that morning. The day is meaningful.

22:years later I realize that is the day we collectively gave up our country and surrendered to the lunatics. How different it would have been if we demanded accountability instead of getting the Patriot Act and TSA? My kids were to young to know what it was like to live in the land of the free.
Tickerguy 198k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2023-09-11 09:41:38

As soon as we knew KSA was involved @Zek157, which I have every reason to believe was 10 seconds after it happened given the FBI's complicity, we should have hauled every one of the Saudi Citizens that were in Sarasota and the other "drop houses" up to the National Mall and publicly executed them right there as war criminals and SPIES (which they were, as non-uniformed persons) and thus were NOT entitled to be taken prisoner instead, then told KSA they had one hour to return every piece of military hardware they owned that was made in our sold through the United States, that were now owned all their oil, and if they didn't comply Mecca was going to be turned into glass.

That was an Act of War -- both against military and civilian targets -- and deliberately suborned by the KSA government. We had every right to take their property for doing it.

"Anyone wearing a mask will be presumed to be intending armed robbery and immediately shot in the face. Govern yourself accordingly."

Neal 386 posts, incept 2014-01-09
2023-09-11 11:46:16

I always wonder why certain airlines didnt get sued, bankrupted or given a Bud Light boycott for their failures to flag the 18 bad dudes before 9/11. The actor James Woods tipped off the airline that he was travelling on that there were 3 suspicious behaviour males on his flight. The airline just shrugged his alert off. Had they done something to check those guys out then odds on they would have been found to be raising lots of red flags and 9/11 would have been stopped before it happened. I wonder how many other such red flags were ignored.
Zek157 276 posts, incept 2009-03-05
2023-09-11 11:46:54

Totally agree. Instead we pretended to do something and spent ~$1T in Afghanistan over 20 years.
Invisiblesun 836 posts, incept 2020-04-08
2023-09-11 11:49:57

Some bread crumbs that make me wonder.

1996 TWA Flight 800 blows up over Long Island. A short wire in a fuel tank is blamed. Many eye witnesses say what they saw disagrees with the official narrative. Didn't matter. The official version stuck. I think the powers that be took note that they could cover up events of massive proportion.

2009 Swine Flu pandemic. The WHO labeled it a pandemic. Obama labeled it a national emergency. There was the usual media hype. But then nothing. It all quietly went away. I suppose the pandemic planners took notes and 11 years later they were ready to flip the switch of Totalitarianism in the name of Public Health to to full power on.

There are more bread crumbs. The deception of the propagandists is they don't have to plan every detail. They can often let life proceed in its naturally haphazard, chaotic pattern. What matters to them is controlling the story and steering the population to yield ever more personal autonomy to the State.

Justme2c 63 posts, incept 2011-09-29
2023-09-11 11:50:03

Always Remember
Never Forget
Ocdawg 495 posts, incept 2019-03-14
2023-09-11 11:50:18

<bell tolls in background>

My cousin moved out of Building 7 only 5 weeks prior

My neighbor at the time lost his entire trading group (18 people) Fiduciary Trust

A "sad" day for America in so many ways

Saddest- IMHO, the dumbing-down of the Sheeple became Priority #1 for TPTB... and they've been honing, crafting, and perfecting ever since...

Sept 11, 2001= USA=

The quest for the Three-peat begins...

Andrew 238 posts, incept 2014-09-24
2023-09-11 11:50:46

Guy living in the bathroom mirror (sometimes wears foil in his hat) wonders if the whole "tower 7 thing" was left vague, deliberately for so long, to divide people into arguments amongst themselves.

Intentional or not, it sure worked.

BigGov had all this time to get bigger-er and worse-er.
The Saudis got away scot free, or, one might argue, they got even more graft from Uncle Sugar.

I wish I could find the pics but a few years prior to "9-11" my family visited one of Mom's cousins who lived in NooYawkCity.
We went up in whichever of those "Twin Towers" had the observation deck, and ate a slice of pizza at the subway terminal beneath them, so it was wild a few scant years later watching them fall over on TeeVee (not live, but shortly after).

22 years.

"This is where we are. Imagine where we will be."
Ingar 638 posts, incept 2017-02-14
2023-09-11 11:50:51

Wonder if the Just-us department will seek repayment for the millions of dollars in grants to the fraudulent FSU professor of criminology. Probably as much chance of that happening as me winning the lottery. His "studies" promoted the anti-white agenda of the government so he'll get a pass.

Wonder if it will ever be disclosed that Dick Cheyny ordered the shoot-down of the airliner over Shanksville,PA? After all, that might have prevented the deaths of a few people in Washington, AC/DC whose lives really mattered. I've heard accounts of a shoot-down from a couple of sources that were reliable and that seems a bit more plausible than the version that heroic passengers attempted to regain control of the aircraft. That version sounds a little too much like a Hollywood script.

Our government follows the advice of the former mayor of Shitcongo about never letting a crisis go to waste. More freedom abrogating "emergencies" are in store for America.
Nelstomlinson 962 posts, incept 2011-12-21
2023-09-11 11:51:19

It was an act of war, all right. Our government worked in concert with KSA to wage war against us. Looks like they're winning so far.
Vernonb 3k posts, incept 2009-06-03
2023-09-11 13:35:55

As far as I am concerned both Jeb and W deserve to be frog marched to a scaffold and flayed alive for their roles as accessories to this atrocity before and after the fact.

Turn on the radio and heard the mutual fellatio fest occuring. I wanted to vomit. More pretend heroes in my opinion responsible for the murder of innocents.

These people aren't heroes. They are stupid pawns that refuse to acknowledged they were duped.

The real heroes were the ones trying to save lives of victims.

"Mass intelligence does not mean intelligent masses."
Raven 15k posts, incept 2017-06-27
2023-09-11 13:36:02

The problem is that most Americans know everything discussed in this article.

The smart and clever have chosen to do nothing but play the system for their own gain and convenience.

Others who only know do nothing but be resolute in their opinion that, "the system is broken."

Everyone feels justified in his position.

Oh well.

Mission Complete

The truth is just too powerful to know. Those who hold the truth suffer more than those who believe the lie. -The Hall of Tears
Trappedinca 78 posts, incept 2021-09-14
2023-09-11 13:36:17

This is always a difficult day every year for me, as I personally knew more than 30 people who died in the South Tower on 9/11. These were business colleagues of a well known firm which had offices around the 80th floor, people I spoke with weekly or even daily in a few cases, had lunches with, beers after work with, etc. I vividly recall speaking with one of our sales reps from that firm in the weeks that followed in which he related how lucky he was to leave the building after the first plane hit the North Tower, mostly due to his wife insisting he get out of the South Tower right TF now. Luckily, he listened. Many others at that firm did not make it out other than a few very lucky ones who were able to escape from a crashed elevator in the lobby level whereas most of those in that elevator as well as all who remained up on floors 78 - 82 died when the South Tower came down.

As to the US response - I felt strongly then and feel even more strongly now that the US should have immediately nuked Mecca and Medina to glass. This would have sent a very strong message that the US will not tolerate this sort of war / criminal / terrorist activity on the part of the KSA and also would have avoided 20 years of the Iraq and Afghanistan quagmires.

Finally, as a few commented above, it does seem that after 22 years many have forgotten the events of 9/11 and the 3,000 who perished in the worst terrorist attack ever on US soil. Which is a shame, because the more we allow history to be forgotten the more likely we are as a nation to repeat prior mistakes.

RIP to all 9/11 victims, and prayers up for their families.

Fumei 4k posts, incept 2019-01-08
2023-09-11 13:37:29

At least this is still fake and gay.
Columibiapixels 32 posts, incept 2018-02-20
2023-09-11 13:37:38

Interesting to note that you don't see any of the actual video footage of the planes anymore. I have tried for years to buy stock footage of it. Not available. At least not that I have found.
Tsherry 13k posts, incept 2008-12-09
2023-09-11 13:46:29

Next oldest brother was at Logan that morning, headed to NYC for a meeting in WTC later in the day; not sure which company but he was in M&A and VC at the time and I'm sure was meeting with other financiers. Stranded in Boston after the shut down, he and his employee rented a Chrysler minivan and drove back to Seattle; last vehicle available for rent. They named the van Bucky.

Timing worked in his favor.

Stop trying to sit at the tables that Jesus would flip over.
Metalqueen 401 posts, incept 2021-09-10
2023-09-11 14:19:47

9-10-2001 was the last day of the "old" America. 9-11-2001 was the day that gave the goons in government (and many in "private" industry) free reign to implement a wish list they had been putting together for years. And "conservatives" fell right in line for it, suckers for a phony "patriotism" that in many ways is the mirror image of "woke". Remember the line "If you can't stand behind our troops, then stand in front of them"? The shitlibs have no monopoly on the "agree with us or shut the fuck up (or worse)" mentality.

All the bullshit about "controlled demolition" and "CGI planes" has been nothing more than a coordinated distraction to prevent the asking of real questions about "intelligence" agency involvement, not just Saudi and Mossad, but our own lovely 3 letter Stasi. Do I believe that the FBI and CIA were at least complicit, and quite possibly actively involved? Yes I do.

If real questions were asked at the time, perhaps these institutions plus the entire executive branch would never been able to enact the tyranny of Event COVID. Sadly, we will never know.

Make smiley building great again!
Lizardqueen 5k posts, incept 2008-04-01
2023-09-11 14:39:53

As a native New Yorker who knew people who died in the Towers, 9/11 still enrages me and is deeply personal in a way other disasters generally are not.

As such, I'll refrain (on this day) of saying what I really think about the alphabet agencies, our gov't, and the actions taken since that day and just post this as I do on social media every year on this day.

It's the story of the 9/11 Boatlift evacuation of Manhattan. It is the story of uncounted ordinary people who rose to the occasion on that day and helped out their fellow humans on their own initiative, without expectation of reward, and entirely at their own risk.

To me, these boat guys are the Real America and are what the current powers that be are desperately trying to stamp out these days, which makes this short video all the more poignant to me.

Edited to add : And thank you, TG, for keeping the 9/11 Truthers out of threads like this. I have an alarming level of vitriol for them as I a) think that they're diverting the conversations that really need to happen and b) taking a dump on the memories of the honest cops and PA folks who died on 9/11 trying to keep those buildings safe for the occupants. I fully expect to get downvoted for this statement and I do NOT give a sh*t.

"The closer you get to the drain, the faster you spin."
---some rando on ZeroHedge

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