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2023-01-24 07:00 by Karl Denninger
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Proof of the postulate: CMS is still paying an extra 20% on the entire hospital bill to anyone on Medicare or Medicaid if you test positive for Covid-19.  It matters not why you're there -- if your chart has an ICD code on it for a positive Covid-19 test the hospital gets an extra 20% over what they would be paid.  No less than CNN's Wen has admitted that a huge percentage of those people who have gone into a hospital "with" Covid were not there for that reason and testing positive for the virus had nothing to do with the cause of the incident, nor with their treatment.  The reason the so-called "Emergency" has not been dropped is exactly this; that "bonus" would expire immediately with the end of said "Emergency", as would the "standards" that made the hospitals billions of dollars on Remdesivir from 2020-2022.  In fact Remdesivir was the highest billed dollar amount to CMS for drugs -- including cancer drugs, which are typically very expensive.

It would be nice to lay this all at Obamacare's feet but you can't.  It in fact goes back to the 1980s.  But Obamacare mandated "Electronic Medical Records" and then they started paying bonuses for "complete health-related information" coded in said records which include things like whether you own guns or...... now, whether you're Covid-vaccinated.

You have ceded all this information -- every single medical thing you do and anything they deem "relevant" to health -- to the government.  Yet despite the Constitution making it illegal for your records to be seized or inspected without a particularized, individual warrant its done every single day by CMS and every private health insurer.  You have no choice; every physician is coerced in one way or another to participate and none of them have banded together and stood up for this, refusing to do so.  They have also not told you about it which makes every single one of them explicit co-conspirators in what's being done.

Thus must not just end, but the databases must be destroyed.  You, and only you, have a right to that information.  If you "share" it with an insurer for the purpose of payment that restricted right of use by said insurer must be absolutely honored and violations punished severely, including criminally for everyone involved.  The only exception permitted must be under an actual specific warrant issued with probable cause that you committed a crime, and where the reasonable confluence between the information and your culpability (or lack thereof) is established.

I have been talking about this for fifteen years and raising Hell about it for the last decade.  For the last decade the only way to avoid this has been to refuse all contact with the medical system at all.  I've pointed that out too.  In fact one of the key points of my medical reform agenda is right here:

All medical records are the property of, and shall be delivered to, the customer at the time of service in human readable form (a PDF provided on common consumer computer media such as a "flash stick" shall comply with this requirement.)  Any coding or other symbols on said chart must include a key to same in English delivered at the same time.  No separate charge may be made for the provision of a contemporary record of a medical visit or treatment other than a reasonable charge for physical media if the customer does not have same with him or her.  The obvious way to do this is for the customer to bring a flash drive to which the human-readable chart is written.  If the customer doesn't have one the office can certainly maintain a small supply of $10 flash drives and charge the $10 to their bill.

Obamacare was passed in order to rescue an imploding medical industry.  The entire Covid-19 response, on a medical level, was enacted to rescue another implosion.  The 20% "bonus up" is proof of this in that it has no gateway requirement that Covid be implicated as the reason for the visit or treatment in said hospital, and it has not been dropped, nor has payment been refused for known worthless and even harmful drugs if you are positive, including Remdesivir.

At the same time CMS has argued (correctly-so) that alleged "Alzheimer's" drugs which do not actually improve cognition should not be paid for by Medicare.  Well, yeah -- if you can't show an objective positive result why should Medicare pay for it?  An extremely large multi-national study in 2020 and 2021 proved Remdesivir was worthless in terms of changing outcomes in people hospitalized for Covid.  Yet said EUA was not only not withdrawn CMS continues to pay for it, plus the hospital's billed infusion costs, PLUS TWENTY PERCENT.

We knew scientifically it didn't work two years ago which leaves the only real reason to keep paying for it bailing out the medical system, specifically hospitals, without a care in the world whether doing so kills you or not.

The problem with both "rescues", beyond the draining of the public treasury and potentially killing you immediately in the process is that both had the effect of transferring your private, personal health history and records out of your control and into the hands of others who can then use them for whatever they wish, whether privately or in the government.  You have no right in today's legislation to bring private suit over this -- HIPAA does not have a private right of action; the government must bring the case and obviously they will not if they or any other favored industry or firm are the ones abusing the data.

I have no idea what sort of peaceful method exists to resolve this problem.  Donald Trump's Presidency along with Biden's have initiated, gone along with and extended this, or both.  Neither political party will even discuss the privacy and legal protections for your personal health information and its misuse, nor the fact that this collection of information is wildly valuable for the purpose of compliance, blackmail, blackballing you in hiring and more.  If you think not tell me once again how "certain people" were being FINED with insurance surcharges for the last two years for refusing something that in fact didn't work and actually INCREASED risk, especially if you already had Covid and could prove it via having antibodies with a test that reads in 10 minutes and costs under $5 to manufacture.  That it increased risk rather than reduced it is now proved fact and thus the "fine" was, from a legal point of view, extortion and since it was coordinated that makes it racketeering as extortion is one of the predicate felonies that must be present for RICO.

Both Trump and Biden were not only ok with this they in fact put the rules in place to make it possible and both, along with every member of HHS, CMS and Congress should hang for it.

Oh sure, the law says this sort of abuse of medical records is supposedly prohibited but you can't personally sue and there are no criminal penalties so said "protections" are pointless so long as the government likes whatever abuse is being heaped upon you irrespective of who is doing it.

As I noted the only way to avoid this happening to you in the present set of circumstances, and this has been true for the last decadeis to never set foot in a medical provider's office.  That means you have to become your own doctor and it also means you must accept the risk of things you can't catch and/or fix being potentially threatening to your health or even life.  Of course there are exceptions where you can't avoid that encounter -- if you get shot or are in a car wreck, for example, and really do need prompt trauma care there is no choice; it's that or die.

If you think this data isn't being used right now to screw you then you're flat-out crazy.  It is, and it is going to get much worse.  The only way to stop it is for it to be outlawed with serious criminal penalties and the right of private action which neither political party will take up -- or the screwed being entirely unconcerned about the legality of the retribution they choose to inflict.

That's a shitty deal but it is what we as a society deserve for refusing to handle this back when Obama first proposed that crap and allowing the GOP to repeatedly grandstand and not deliver once they recovered control of both Congress and the White House.  Indeed Trump had no less than three platform planks toward resolving this and all three disappeared within minutes of the election being called for him in 2016, never to be seen again.  You do remember that, and my reporting on it, yes?

Trump didn't do good things in this regard as he was the architect of and set up that 20% bonus which stands to this day and you'll not Kevin McCathy has not said word #1 about stopping it, nor has Rand Paul or any of the others so spare me your bullshit about "voting" to fix this.

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Dcsleeper 617 posts, incept 2012-10-11
2023-01-24 08:10:58

"Screwed, we are."
said Yoda
Invisiblesun 627 posts, incept 2020-04-08
2023-01-24 08:10:58

Doesn't this collapse when CMS runs out of other people's money?
Cmoledor 1k posts, incept 2021-04-13
2023-01-24 08:10:58

All I can say is I thank you ever so much for doing the work to keep us at least informed on what is really going on. Reality sucks ass indeed, but better to face it as is than to pretend all is well. Its not well. None of this is well. But I salute the work you do.

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The whole world is one big fucking scam
Why are you giving a vulgarity warning here? Our genial host is an advocate of both skullfucking and sodomy via rusty chainsaw. Credit to Rollformer
Olddad 219 posts, incept 2019-08-22
2023-01-24 08:53:35

I think a lot about what control (potential or realized) is held by those who have your health and financial information. I also think a lot about what we're going experience with AI being used to coordinate and execute that control.

Combine the two over the next 5 - 15 years are you're talking about an actual dystopian society during our lifetimes. Coercion will THE weapon of choice and we will oblige willingly.

These two things are why I am so black-pilled and have very little hope for the future. The dread for what awaits my young children weighs heavy on my heart.
Phdmemeology 14 posts, incept 2021-12-13
2023-01-24 09:16:02

@Invisiblesun

LOL good one. Now bend over and file your taxes like a good boy.
Willychurnpike 24 posts, incept 2021-07-20
2023-01-24 09:25:14

@olddad
I think about this as well. We need the new class of lawmakers with the strong will to restrain gov and business. This digital Bill of Rights that's brought up but unclear. Enough with the pro wrestling drama and tackle the things that matter to everyone.
Clyde 171 posts, incept 2009-08-19
2023-01-24 09:32:18

Russia or China (war) will fix it for us.

1 zircon hyper sonic on DC should help all this corruption to end.

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Boredfree 1k posts, incept 2021-09-15
2023-01-24 09:35:05

Last night my lovely wife and I watched The Big Short - a movie about the 2008 housing market crash - which in many ways seems similar to the insanity we've experienced during covid.

Near the end of the movie the narrator tells us after the collapse, guilty bankers were jailed, the government strengthened financial regulations and laws were changed to make such a collapse impossible.

At this point in the narration there is the sound of a record player needle scratching across an album and the narrator tells us nothing really changed. One dude went to jail, yay.

What surprised me about the 2008 meltdown is how pussified the citizens are. Were any bankers justifiably shot, beaten or ostracized due to their malfeasance? NO!

Mostly the average person was vilified for being dumb and greedy. The home buyers were the problem; they were lying about their incomes and buying more real estate than they could afford. Waiters and dishwashers were building real estate portfolios on lies.

The public nodded their head in agreement. They knew they were working a scam as much as the bankers were. And when the axe fell, the public retreated into their tent cities, their automobiles and cardboard boxes beaten and unable to find (or afford) a fuck-to-give about the assholes who orchestrated the mess.

All these newly impoverished Americans got something in exchange for their former wealth: 'health care'.

Obama care(less) vacuumed up all the newly impoverished giving them something they never had before, health insurance. You may be poor and living out of your car, but it wasn't so bad because you could afford to stay 'healthy'. Maintenance medications and wellness checkups all provided for free (five cent copays for medication IS free).

It was the perfect setup to the medical tyranny visited upon us under the guise of covid. This time the pharmaceutical companies and medical professionals were leading the scam. People keep their mouth shut because they were part of the scam.

Again, nobody has done anything drastic to push back against these scams. There have been no shootings, beating or shunning of the guilty. People aren't protesting because they really don't want the game to end. They like the free stuff, and honestly aren't looking to change anything.

This will eventually come to an end. It won't be pleasant. We can't even afford eggs to throw at the sumbitches.

Thankfully rocks are still free...


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Spaceace 166 posts, incept 2019-05-09
2023-01-24 10:00:50

I couldn't agree more with your point about doing everything to avoid setting foot in a medical providers office. A family member that was in decent health got Covid. He was a smoker which made it a bit rough. With a slow recovery, he decided to go to the doctor. He is now on four different medications that aren't even related to a respiratory issue and he feels even worse. I make it a point to walk a mile or so a day with the dogs after work. If I need ever need surgery, I'll go to Oklahoma. I have a place in Tulsa I can recover at. For anything else, my affairs are in order and I don't give a crap.
Joancrawford 543 posts, incept 2013-10-14
2023-01-24 10:10:01

Olddad-These two things are why I am so black-pilled and have very little hope for the future. The dread for what awaits my young children weighs heavy on my heart.

Yep, me too. I'm closing in fast on 60. I figure, maybe 5-10 years everything goes tits up. Hell, I'm not above using my glock to end it all if it gets too hellacious. Fuck 'em.

What I DON'T get is people younger than me, with KIDS, who will have to grow up in this stinking cesspool every.single.fucking.day. My warnings go on deaf ears. When things get too gruesome twosome, they cover their fucking ears and sing "Lady, lady, lady, blue, my ears can't hear you!"

So, they don't care enough about themselves to get off their ass and start building their lives OUTSIDE of the system (as much as possible), but not a care in the world about their KIDS? I just don't get it.


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Shadowmask 4k posts, incept 2021-05-24
2023-01-24 10:16:06

Quote:
I think about this as well. We need the new class of lawmakers with the strong will to restrain gov and business. This digital Bill of Rights that's brought up but unclear. Enough with the pro wrestling drama and tackle the things that matter to everyone.

smiley

Oh my, you actually think we're voting our way out of this?

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Mjeff87 1k posts, incept 2021-11-22
2023-01-24 10:19:53

That is an excellent movie.

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Cmoledor 1k posts, incept 2021-04-13
2023-01-24 10:58:04

I third the black pill. And I fucking hate it. Is what it is though. I am hopeful ( maybe) that once we are hungry enough, THEN we will find our sacks. Not until then.

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The whole world is one big fucking scam
Why are you giving a vulgarity warning here? Our genial host is an advocate of both skullfucking and sodomy via rusty chainsaw. Credit to Rollformer
Willychurnpike 24 posts, incept 2021-07-20
2023-01-24 10:58:07

@shadowmask
I may be too optimistic. IMO if enough families get burned by the theft, eventually they end up in positions of power.
Shadowmask 4k posts, incept 2021-05-24
2023-01-24 11:17:06

@Willychurnpike the hand under your butt is going to fill up with shit before the other one fills up with hope.

We've all been burned by theft for decades, it will only change when politicians decorate lampposts. That's the only position of power that matters, those who have the courage to bring rope.


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Chemman 333 posts, incept 2021-05-03
2023-01-24 11:33:51

@BoredFree: "You may be poor and living out of your car, but it wasn't so bad because you could afford to stay 'healthy'. Maintenance medications and wellness checkups all provided for free (five cent copays for medication IS free)."

ROFLMAO. They did a deep dive into O-Taxacare for the poor in my state. Turned out they got even less care than before. Between the crazy co-pays, deductibles and premiums they used all their small amount of money for the premiums and had nothing left to pay the co-pays and deductibles so actual care went down.
Tickerguy 192k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2023-01-24 11:37:17

Yep @Chemman and at the same time it drove a crap-ton of people just like (and including) me to say "fuck that; downsize my life, live on MUCH less, fuck you I ain't gonna work hard and make money when you're just gonna steal it."

I can TRIVIALLY make six figures a year and pay taxes on that, which I did for a couple of DECADES. I refused once Obamacare came in. Nope. NO MORE of that shit. Never again. It's been about a decade now so you do the math on how much TAX REVENUE the government didn't get because I simply refused to earn anything beyond where the subsidies started to go away.

I do not CARE that this means I can't have a few "finer things"; the yacht was sold, then the other boat, my cars run just fine, I don't need newer ones, my house is perfectly ok, I don't need to expensive toys of various sorts.

The answer to such a proposition is NO.

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The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Kennington 368 posts, incept 2013-09-12
2023-01-24 12:24:01

ICD-10

I was not aware but most are in that for decades, doctors and hospitals have used specific coding on the forms they complete and submit to insurance companies for approval and payment of services. These are International Classification of Disease (ICD), codes. ICD-10 is the tenth revision of the International Classification of Diseases (ICD) authored by the World Health Organization (WHO). ICD is the foundation for identifying health trends and is the international standard for reporting diseases and health conditions.

Recently, a completely new set of codes has been created and implemented. The new code is Code Number Z28.310 and it is interesting because it specifically refers to a persons COVID vax status.

Codes
Z28 Immunization not carried out and under immunization status
o Z28.0 Immunization not carried out because of contraindication
 Z28.01 Immunization not carried out because of acute illness of patient
 Z28.02 Immunization not carried out because of chronic illness or condition of patient
 Z28.03 Immunization not carried out because of immune compromised state of patient
 Z28.04 Immunization not carried out because of patient allergy to vaccine or component
 Z28.09 Immunization not carried out because of other contraindication
o Z28.1 Immunization not carried out because of patient decision for reasons of belief or group pressure
o Z28.2 Immunization not carried out because of patient decision for other and unspecified reason
 Z28.20 Immunization not carried out because of patient decision for unspecified reason
 Z28.21 Immunization not carried out because of patient refusal
 Z28.29 Immunization not carried out because of patient decision for other reason
o Z28.3 Underimmunization status
 Z28.31 Underimmunization for COVID-19 status
 Z28.310 Unvaccinated for COVID-19 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
 Z28.311 Partially vaccinated for COVID-19
 Z28.39 Other underimmunization status
o Z28.8 Immunization not carried out for other reason
 Z28.81 Immunization not carried out due to patient having had the disease
 Z28.82 Immunization not carried out because of caregiver refusal
 Z28.83 Immunization not carried out due to unavailability of vaccine
 Z28.89 Immunization not carried out for other reason
o Z28.9 Immunization not carried out for unspecified reason


So when you go to the doctor, they'll continue to ask you if you've had the jab and in the future (depending upon your state), your response could be forwarded to the insurance company. Why? Well, the insurance company wants to know and they're willing to pay the doctor's offices that provide that "meaningful" information.
Whitehat 11k posts, incept 2017-06-27
2023-01-24 12:28:06

The Trump dick-suckers could not for years get why i was putting him down after he was elected and throughout his entire presidency. That stunt of selling one thing on his campaign website and literally taking it down near instantly on the win showed everything about his character. Sure, we accept that politicos might be professional manipulators, perhaps even liars for their purposes, however that they are consistent in what they stand for can and must be a part of this. Otherwise they violate by a different kind of lie. It is having an agenda not shared with the people to whom they sold their candidacy. This makes it possible to get an evil dictatorship as the person only pretends to do something long enough to get in and do the real dirty work. Sadly there is no automatic mechanism to expel such leaders for violating clear promises. Now that would be a great idea.

@Boredfree -- nice post, you are sounding a lot like i used to.

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Quod tu es, ego fui, quod ego sum, tu eris
Tickerguy 192k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2023-01-24 12:28:25

Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding.

That's why I went after him and even PREDICTED he'd do it.

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The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Abelardlindsey 1k posts, incept 2021-03-26
2023-01-24 12:47:40

Since insurance is based on actuarial data, would they not be aware that the shots are harmful and thus consider the unvaccinated to be a safer insurance risk? We know the life insurers are starting down this path. What am I missing here?

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Its all in the mitochondria
Whitehat 11k posts, incept 2017-06-27
2023-01-24 12:48:01

@Kennington -- not necessarily a bad thing. In the future you are rated as having no risk due to the vexxine and perhaps future employers also find you more desirable.

Would it not be great if they gave us a tool to win a major battle.

BTW, get the list of questions which they ask you and your family and figure out which ones to answer in what ways. HINT: it involves a lot of "no"s. Yes, even for meds i would recommend. Not going to help an idiot GP to help you anyway.

Never, ever, ever admit to at any time ever being depressed, taking any psych meds, being in counseling, you get the idea. There are a few other biggies; you know.

Treat shit like shit, and that is what they, the system and the doctors playing along are. POS

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smiley Je souhaite

Quod tu es, ego fui, quod ego sum, tu eris
Bodhi 5k posts, incept 2008-02-23
2023-01-24 14:08:33

Tickerguy wrote..
I can TRIVIALLY make six figures a year and pay taxes on that, which I did for a couple of DECADES. I refused once Obamacare came in. Nope. NO MORE of that shit. Never again. It's been about a decade now so you do the math on how much TAX REVENUE the government didn't get because I simply refused to earn anything beyond where the subsidies started to go away.


I did the same before I hit 65 and went on Medicare. I found there was a sweet spot in earnings where I paid next to nothing for an Obamacare policy. Too much and I paid through the nose. Too little and I'd be forced onto Medicaid.

I've sorta had to do the same on SS. Now that I've finally hit "full retirement age" I can essentially make as much as I choose to without getting penalized. At this point I choose to only make enough to pay for groceries. Between passive income and SS I make more than enough to live comfortably.

Funny that with the combination of penalties for making "too much" and giveaways for making "too little" the government has essentially taught the general population that it pays NOT to work. No need to wonder why the supply chain is FUBAR.

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Be so subtle that you are invisible.
Be so mysterious that you are intangible.
Then you will control your rivals' fate.
~Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Kennington 368 posts, incept 2013-09-12
2023-01-24 14:08:57

@Whitehat...I totally agree, that said, always remember with this crowd anything you say can and WILL be used against you however and whenever they see fit. I've said it many times recently, the world's upside down. Right is wrong, white is black, up is down, etc...

When you get to a point in a society that you have people believing that men can have menstrual cycles it's all over!!!
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