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 The Worm Has Turned
Spence 5k posts, incept 2009-09-11
2023-01-24 08:48:04

Blackcrow wrote..
That is the really weird thing that Adams kept harping on: That we, the people, should just worship at the feet of the experts and not try to figure it out on our own. And if we get it right on our own, then that it was luck.

It gets weirder than that. I used to listen to Adams podcast pre-COVID. One of his themes was to NEVER trust the experts. He would give examples of why they are not to be trusted and that you should do your own research. Somehow COVID completely broke his mind.
Kikknback 1k posts, incept 2020-03-17
2023-01-24 08:48:22

Clot Adams is a prime example of a Useful Idiot, with a medium I.Q., who thinks they are intellectually above others without realizing his lack of having any common sense whatsoever still keeps him in the Useful Idiot category he thinks he is better than.

And that is all the ink he deserves.

"The most grotesque act of Treason is to be born into a free Constitutional Republic, for which you did not risk your life or shed blood to create, and sit back and watch it slowly be taken from you w
Katniss99 170 posts, incept 2012-06-05
2023-01-24 08:48:37

Another died suddenly in my corner of the world. Friend of a friend. Male, heart attack in his sleep, 32 years old. Completely unexpected. Not overweight, he was former military and competed in a pickleball tournament just 2 months ago. I don't know anyone who could confirm jab status, but you can go figure...

Leaves behind a young wife, son, and unborn baby girl due next month.
Psmcd 58 posts, incept 2014-01-10
2023-01-24 09:32:54

@Blackcrow, for uber edification of your Idaho guide buddies ;~)
Regarding Scott Adams. I've no answer as to why a particular fear will grip one midwit and not the next. This particular fear annihilated SA's little wit. I know I'm a little wit, and vulnerable to fears, but was able to elude this one's grasp through help like Karl's. Friends and family I admire, of similar wit and background, have succumbed to the clottery. I'm hoping to retain my wits in the face of whatever particular fear I'll be subject to. This entire shit show is humbling.
Speedpolkabrewer 109 posts, incept 2019-05-12
2023-01-24 10:00:34

I figured that if the shots turned out to be worth while a few years down the road, then I could, at that time, amend my decision and get it. If I made a snap decision and got it, no way to unfuck myself.
Purplefang 713 posts, incept 2010-03-28
2023-01-24 10:58:23

I don't like being called anti-vaxxer, because I believe vaccines can theoretically be useful. I am a vaccine skeptic because of the failure of the government to fund untainted research. Granting any company liability protection is almost certainly going to result in defective products. However, in this case I don't believe these mRNA gene therapy shots are vaccines. It doesn't take much research to see the government is lying about almost everything related to covid. I don't feel like I won because this is not a game. Being correct is normal for me. I always assume I am correct till proven otherwise. I read Scott's book Losert hink. It's not a bad book. He is not immune from Loserthink. Funny.
Shadowmask 5k posts, incept 2021-05-24
2023-01-24 10:58:35

That was the most passive-aggressive non-apology I've heard this week. Fuck that guy.

Sportsball Team A: 3 Sportsball Team B: 3
Clot Shot: 0
Heartlander 2k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2023-01-24 19:10:09

Well, I guess I'm one of the people who fits Adams's characterization of vexx refusers as people who don't trust the government. That wasn't the only reason for me, but it was a big one.

I had not yet discovered this website, and I'm embarrassed to say, had not researched the vaxx very much by the time it was released on the public.

But, despite being over age 60 and having two co-morbidities that made me "high risk," there was no way I was going to take an injection derived using cell lines from murdered babies, AND there was no way I was going to trust those very same "health authorities" that I had seen censoring and suppressing the news from India, Peru, upstate New York (Dr. Zelenko), California's Imperial Valley (Dr. Brian Tyson), and other places about the cheap, safe drugs that actually CURED people of the disease.

People who professed to care about saving lives but condemned people to death by not allowing them to try, or even to learn about the existence of, treatments that could save their lives -- were NOT people I trusted regarding decisions about MY body.

Scott Adams can sneer at me if he wants to, but I totally stand by my reasoning.

P.S. And when I saw Dr. Kory's testimony in the Senate in early December 2021 (THAT was when I discovered this site!), talking about ivermectin preventing people from getting the disease (and spreading it to others), that was just the icing on the cake. Why the hell should I get a new, unproven concoction when the disease could be prevented with a drug that was already well-established as incredibly safe?

Reason: Typo
Threedigit 443 posts, incept 2008-01-28
2023-01-24 19:20:05

If the worm has turned, does this mean Scott Adams has to eat a Diet of Worms?

Scott Adams seems to be characterizing the anti-vaccine position as a bad beat. I would dispute this. We can learn from experience that certain entities are not to be trusted, and their recommendations should be ignored. This is a sign of intelligence, not of a lack thereof. You could also have used a heuristic where you default to rejecting major social movements since the crisis of 2007-2009. The vast majority of social changes since then have been in the wrong direction. You'd have had a decade to notice this pattern before you had to make a decision about the COVID-19 vaccines.

@Budxr7 - A related issue is that it's already illegal in the USA to discriminate based on a disability, or even based on a perception that someone is disabled. When a majority of people who received a COVID-19 vaccine have alterations in cardiac function, many people are going to perceive people who received a COVID-19 vaccine as disabled. It is not relevant that the COVID-19 vaccine is self-inflicted in the vast majority of cases. Some disabilities, such as substance abuse, are also self-inflicted.

@Abelardlindsey - Getting the shots for international travel was a dumb move. With the possible exception of the first few months of the COVID-19 pandemic, there were always a handful of countries that were open to foreign visitors. Western Europe was generally off the table. But why bother with a declining region, when there are so many ascending places that are interesting to visit? The early 2020's were also a good time to visit Red America, especially before lodging prices spiked.

More broadly, the response to COVID-19 did severe damage to Blue America, the Anglosphere, and Western Europe. I don't think we even know the half of it yet. If this was your world, it's time to start adapting to Red America and/or other regions of the world that are ascendant. Because this is what's going to be left standing.

And why are some people clinging to Blue America? By the mid-2010's, it should have been obvious to anyone with a brain that the culture was deteriorating. But social status, having the right piece of paper, and saying the right things still count for something in Blue America. If you have those things but lack true talent, one is incentivized to stick with Blue America and tolerate its nonsense. In Red America, you might work for a small business where there is no hiding in the cracks. You might even start your own business, in which case the buck stops with you. You might work with your hands...but that requires actual effort.

摆烂 = Bǎi Lan = Let It Rot.
Ncrown 23 posts, incept 2021-07-24
2023-01-24 20:46:46

I have been on a recent journey attempting to grok the Enneagram:

On a personal, introspective level, it's been enlightening. DW and I have had a lot of good conversations concerning our children and the type that best fits their personality.

On to my point... Type 6 has been described as the most prominent type within humanity. So... given the covid debacle, I've been wondering what sort of implications that might have within the model and in society in general. One potential connection is that the inherent strengths and weaknesses of each type should align with what we are seeing on the broad with how we have responded to the fear in general and in individual instances. On that point, here is an example description of a Type 6 when they are in their "unhealthy state":


"The lack of genuine self-confidence leads Sixes to look around for authority figures and structures that offer them the security and certainty they crave. At their worst, Sixes can become authoritarians, people who want truth in totalitarian, self-righteous fashion and are loyal to a fault, making choices that are not aligned with their deepest values or wisdom. They often give themselves dangerously to strongmen, hierarchical figures, and absolutely certain groups (fundamentalists) to take away their anxiety."

I know others have raised the Myers-Briggs types as a lens in which to view the response to this mess -- just another to keep in mind.

Lastly, I believe there is a concentration of INTJs on this board, and I would expect that many of you are also an Enneagram 5 as I am. Can't stop hoarding information...
Ncrown 23 posts, incept 2021-07-24
2023-01-24 22:16:19

Further on the above post, we all need to remember that the stupidity and pain manifested from this covid "debacle" (past and ongoing) should be expected given the nature of the "threat" and what we should expect from human nature.

When, how, and to what degree to show compassion for a fellow human being who has caused harm (participated in perpetuating the threat) is largely a degree to which they caused said harm "willingly." Subjective. Messy. Such is life.

I personally believe one can see the difference between a fearful, otherwise compassionate human who has taken a position counter to the truth, and the other person who is driven primarily by their passions.

Where did Clot Adams fall?
Fumei 3k posts, incept 2019-01-08
2023-01-25 09:58:52

He has yet to fall over dead yet.
Forever_young 79 posts, incept 2022-11-22
2023-01-25 09:58:57


How apt.
I hadn't read this ticker until now but I literally had a discussion with a couple coworkers last night about people in leadership (let's be honest, it's really everywhere) and their inability to actually be remorseful and apologize for shit they do that negatively affects others whether directly or indirectly.

The number of psychopaths that get up the ladder by never admitting their ideas/plans were shit and learning from them is staggering. Instead I suppose the idea is to just keep digging out of the hole or just hope we all forget and ignore the damage done.

Well this is one man with a good memory and I don't just ignore the water filling my boat. There's a lot of people thar need to pay for their hubris.
Heartlander 2k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2023-01-25 13:08:03

My best guess is every time he opened his mouth about the vaccines people tuned out, and he was losing his audience.

As a matter of fact, I was one of those people. Back in what now seems a different eon, Scott Adams's podcast was a part of my day, every day. But when he started talking about the vaxxes as if they were a good thing, I lost interest, and never listened to him again.
Lemonaid 16k posts, incept 2008-01-20
2023-01-25 13:48:32

I remember reading the funnies in the back of the paper in the 80's and couldn't tell you anything about the cartoonists (If I ever cared to even know their names).

"There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of
Abelardlindsey 1k posts, incept 2021-03-26
2023-01-25 19:51:48

Gary Larson's "Far Side" was good. Funky Winkerbeen was good for anyone who ever was in band in high school. I don't remember the rest at all.

Its all in the mitochondria
Abelardlindsey 1k posts, incept 2021-03-26
2023-01-25 19:52:11

It gets weirder than that. I used to listen to Adams podcast pre-COVID. One of his themes was to NEVER trust the experts. He would give examples of why they are not to be trusted and that you should do your own research. Somehow COVID completely broke his mind.

This is what blew my mind about Scott Adams three years ago. He started pushing a line that was the diametric opposite of what his Dilbert cartoon was all about. Likewise with Peter Zeihan. In the last 5 years or so he supported policies that were diametrically opposite of anything he published in his first three books (his forth book was execrable). In the case of Scott Adams, his brain was broken by Covid-19. In the case of Peter Zeihan, it was a combination of Trump Derangement Syndrome in combination with Covid-19. However, unlike Scott Adams, Peter Zeihan got the shots and appears, so far, not to suffer any ill effects. He still believes the mRNA shots work, and chides the Chinese for not using them.

Its all in the mitochondria
Eleua 21k posts, incept 2007-07-05
2023-02-03 18:26:56

Diversity + proximity = WAR

-They wanted camps; I want ropes.
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