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Californialost 119 posts, incept 2021-10-14
2023-01-20 18:26:46


If people won't speak out/act for smaller things, they won't for bigger things either.

Not that 60,000 people is small, it's not.

But no one said shit, or called for his resignation, so Fraudchi was empowered to (help) kill a million or so this time around.

Some people cared, but most didn't, back then gays were still very fringe, so middle America didn't give any F#cks.

Turns out that was a bad idea and we are all in this together. When I saw Fauci standing next to Trump in 2020, I knew we were all targets this time.

I grew up 50 miles south of SF and there were people in print, people on TV, calling for Fauci's head. Now, just like then, the fix was in with the politicians.

Couple of interesting articles. First is the truth about Fauci, the second an open letter from the SF Examiner calling Fauci a killer and calling for his execution.

I think we lost the first covid war. But, that was just the start, and as society comes more unglued, hold on to your hat!!

Lronhoover 33 posts, incept 2022-01-08
2023-01-20 19:26:58


"I had Covid Nov '21, very mild case, just some aches and pains.. however I lost my sense of taste for a week or so. It came back and everything was normal. Sometime in March '22 I lost partial sense of smell.. anything solvent based was off.. gasoline, diesel fuel. Peanut butter and peaches were gross. It seems to be slowly getting better.
I have no idea what could have caused it.. possibly being exposed to covid again? Nobody else I know who had covid (20+ people) have this."

Halloween '20 for me.
Sense of smell is still jacked up. Fortunately everything smelling like an ashtray or rancid fryer oil hasn't happened in months.
Went walleye fishing on Lake Erie Thanksgiving 2021 and when we were launching a guy was bringing his boat back in with his trolling motor. Had some work done to his outboard the day before and a gas line must've fallen off. My buddies said everything reeked of gasoline.
I could not smell it at all.
Onions still do not smell right neither does coffee.
Not as depressing as it once was, but still makes me FUCKING angry nonetheless!

FLCCC page says UP TO 80% just like clearance sales! (this does seem ungodly high even though I appreciate everything the FLCCC has done)

UP TO 80% OFF.

I do need to try a course of prednisone.

@Ingar "In the meantime, our fascination with world class rappers, break dancers, basketball dribblers and football catchers might amuse us, but will not feed us. Neither will our commitment to divers

Reason: grammmmmmer
Bluto 2k posts, incept 2021-07-10
2023-01-20 19:27:57

That's not what I see. Millions of solid, conservative, Christian people got played with the "for the good of others" line; they were told that Christian charity involved getting vaxxed.

Those people need to spend more time reading their Bibles, and less watching so-called pastors like Colgate Joey.

They also need to understand that contrary to the teachings of many so-called "Christians", being a Christian isn't about being a sucker nor about being nice.

Matthew 24:4 "And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you."

Matthew 10:16 "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves."

And Christians should be ESPECIALLY skeptical of medicine:

Revelation 18:23 "....all the nations were deceived by your sorcery."

The word "sorcery" there is "pharmakeia: the use of medicine, drugs or spells"

Yeah, they got played, but they need to wise up before the REAL tests come in the future.

Jeremiah 12:5 "If thou hast run with the footmen, and they have wearied thee, then how canst thou contend with horses?..."

"You must never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end -- which you can never afford to lose -- with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever
Kareninca 610 posts, incept 2011-08-23
2023-01-20 19:29:01

Right now there is a serious shortage of home health care workers, or so I read. My 80 y.o. mom lives 3,000 miles away so I can only help her hands-on in dire situations. Recently she fractured her arm, and does need some help. She is staying with her boyfriend and has loads of female friends visiting, some of whom even do bottom-wiping duty. But she doesn't want to wear them out, and she does have enough money to hire some assistance for a while.

She called a local, reputable organization that hires elderly people to help other elderly people. She was expecting a long wait for someone to show up after the intake visit. But no - only two days later a really sharp lady in her late 70s arrived for the three hours and was fantastic in every way.

Even my mom, who is not attuned to this sort of stuff, could figure out why. "The agency asked if we (she and her boyfriend) were vaxxed. And they also asked if we cared if the person who came to help were vaxxed."

Well, yes, she and her boyfriend (who is 87 y.o.) are vaxxed; their choice. But they told the agency that they did not care one way or another if the helper were vaxed. But most of the dolts who live in their blue state would demand a vaxxed helper. So voila, they immediately got a helper with a brain.

At the same time, my mom has a friend who is about 76 y.o. who is not vaccinated. She caught covid once in July, and she has it now again. In the interim she has had strep throat and an ear infection and a couple of other miseries. She was a robust person, but she is old. She decided to ignore covid due to her religious beliefs (the good Lord will decide), but an old person might not want to totally ignore covid. There are some prophyllactics (nasal sprays, antihistamines) that might help keep a person from catching it (not medical advice).
Tickerguy 192k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2023-01-20 19:34:43

Claritin (the generic is cheaper) appears to work QUITE well if used early, and double daily dosing (2x/day instead of 1x/day, 12 hours apart) appears reasonably safe for acute use. Ivermectin may help (but I'm not convinced it did in my case; budesonide DEFINITELY worked, on the other hand. Claritin I didn't know about at the time.) I'd also stick peroxide in a water pic and use it liberally; the nose/mouth/throat are all connected, and attenuating anything in the oral cavity won't hurt and might be of material benefit. Vitamin D/K2 in REASONABLE amounts is a good idea too BUT you really need to be using it BEFORE you get hit; attempting to play "catchup" might or might not do anything and I'm not convinced its safe to try that.

If it remains respiratory its a pain in the ass like every other respiratory infection. If you get hammered in the lungs, and particularly if you are weakened to start with and that happens, you're in trouble.

The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.

Alex567 213 posts, incept 2008-09-18
2023-01-20 21:03:08

Sometime in March '22 I lost partial sense of smell.. anything solvent based was off.. gasoline, diesel fuel.

I had covid in September of 2022. I lost 100% of my sense of smell and taste for nearly 2 weeks. My senses have slowly returned; to the point that I can identify most everything by taste, but a fair amount of the complexity of flavors is still off or missing. My sensitivity of smell is also still somewhat diminished. At least I can't always tell when my oldest dog is stinking up the room.

I'm glad you mentioned your experience with solvents because I am also experiencing this. Very decent bottles of whiskey, which I had consumed regularly prior to covid, and therefore know exactly what they are supposed to taste like, now have an odd almost metallic/bloody smell and initial flavor. A brand of facial cleanser that I have used regularly, now has this scent as well. I wouldn't quite describe it as diesel, but close to it maybe.
Alex567 213 posts, incept 2008-09-18
2023-01-20 21:03:26

Onions still do not smell right neither does coffee.
Not as depressing as it once was, but still makes me FUCKING angry nonetheless!

This is another one for me as well. I know longer find the taste of coffee pleasant. Interestingly, the beans/grounds still smell nice to me though. When I think of damages which people have sued for in the past, the loss of the pleasures of smell and taste seem reasonable enough to add to that list. Particularly when it appears to have been caused by an escaped science experiment.
Kikknback 1k posts, incept 2020-03-17
2023-01-20 21:56:56

If 80% are getting Long-Covid, then as bad as our Host got hammered, he surely would have acquired Long-Covid....but he didn't.

Dr. Kory was running the Mask B.S. too, so.....................

"The most grotesque act of Treason is to be born into a free Constitutional Republic, for which you did not risk your life or shed blood to create, and sit back and watch it slowly be taken from you w
Lemonaid 16k posts, incept 2008-01-20
2023-01-20 21:57:44

Nicotine gum for the smell/taste issue.

"There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of a voluntary abandonment of
Heartlander 2k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2023-01-21 08:07:28

If 80% are getting Long-Covid, then as bad as our Host got hammered, he surely would have acquired Long-Covid....but he didn't.

Not necessarily. You're implyg a hard-and-fast correlation that I don't think is there. Some people didn't get all that sick, but then ended up losing all taste and smell for 6 months or more. Others, like me, got pretty bad sick but didn't suffer any really obvious long term effects other than some hair loss several months afterward.
Lronhoover 33 posts, incept 2022-01-08
2023-01-21 08:07:36

"Nicotine gum for the smell/taste issue."

No shit really?
Haven't heard this until now and I'm a dumb ass who smokes.

@Ingar "In the meantime, our fascination with world class rappers, break dancers, basketball dribblers and football catchers might amuse us, but will not feed us. Neither will our commitment to divers
Alex567 213 posts, incept 2008-09-18
2023-01-21 08:07:44

I've been using nicotine pouches since you last suggested them to me in another thread. I may have noticed a slight improvement, though I can't say for certain that it was due to the pouches or improved on it's own with time. The solvent issue (among others) still remains, however.
Tickerguy 192k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2023-01-21 08:09:34

There are some people who have gotten noted improvement. But, I would not use that (or anything else) for more than a month or so; if it doesn't work, it doesn't work.

Chronic use of anything is problematic in the general sense. As an acute treatment, fine, but my suspicion is that the snake-oil peddling for all things related to this virus has been ridiculous thus far and is only going to get worse, especially when it comes to cardiac damage as OBJECTIVE proof of it working is nearly impossible to show and obviously that someone's scared their heart is about to quit provides a tremendous motivational sales pitch.

The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Asimov 141k posts, incept 2007-08-26
2023-01-21 10:47:17

If you already smoke, I don't think the gum is going to help.

It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity.

Festina lente.
Workerbee23 199 posts, incept 2021-09-15
2023-01-21 14:48:46

Please remember that though we all the have the same parts, our DNA can be wildly different, therefore our individual physiological reactions can be just as different. (Diamond Princess, anyone?)

For example: if a cold starts circulating around our house, it always hits my husband's lungs but I get the full head cold symptoms with it rarely going to my chest. I may sneeze for 2 days and have a runny nose for another couple while hubs sneezes twice but is coughing crap up for two weeks.

Personal supposition: the people trying to get the word out about treatment(s) (FLCCC) are throwing out the widest net possible. They don't have the manpower to treat on an individual basis and, as we've all seen/heard/experienced, local docs are still ignoring the problem.

As @Tickerguy posits, self "medicating" has its risks. This is the biggest frustration I have. I believe in supplementing but it's hard to find someone to trust to help with what would be best for ME, not to mention the cost. Most naturopath Dr's I've come across have a very high initial fee, and followups aren't exactly cheap (and this is if you can even find one in your area, very frustrating).

It seems as the MIC has ballooned, actual patient based care has completely disappeared. Now everything is one size fits all, which has never been the case. The educational industrial complex has completely killed off our natural curiosity and basically banished the use of the word "WHY".

Kareninca 610 posts, incept 2011-08-23
2023-01-21 14:49:14

In the past, I would have suggested that a person with heart issues look into taking hawthorn ( It has been used for 2,000+ years for that purpose, and there are clinical trials showing genuine benefit ("One study found that hawthorn extract (900 mg/day) taken for 2 months was as effective as low doses of captopril (a prescription heart medication) in improving symptoms of heart failure"), and it is very safe (not medical advice; ask your doctor). If a person had a cardiac issue and then got it under control, they could then "support" their heart with hawthorn.

But now, people who are vaccinated are not clearing the virus. The damage is ongoing. I still don't think hawthorn would hurt for most people (not medical advice, ask doctor), but it isn't going to make much of a difference.

I know about the claritin because Karl wrote about the Spanish nursing home study early on. That has been a huge help. I can't prove that it has kept me from getting covid (and passing it to the two highly fragile people in my household), but it seems very possible.
Douglasthorburn 41 posts, incept 2019-02-05
2023-01-24 16:42:45

@Whitehat wrote:
"For example Stalin was one, as was Ted Bundy. Each liked to do different evil, with differing talents and access to means."

Both were alcoholics. Alcoholism causes egomania. Egomania impels the addict to have a need to wield power over others. This often looks like narcissism, psychopathy, and nearly all the other "personality disorders."

The form alcoholism takes is a function of circumstances, opportunity and virulence.

Because hardly anyone knows to look for it, alcoholism is nearly always missed. It took me 106 pages of reading the medical casebook of Chairman Mao for his physician of 20 years to tell us Mao was a barbiturate addict, which is alcohol in pill form for those predisposed to alcoholism. The Heston's did not write their medical casebook of Adolf Hitler until 34 years after he died; they were the first to hypothesize he was an amphetamine addict from at least 1936, which explained much of the behaviors after. I can't prove it, but because he was quite the caffeine addict before that I hypothesize he was a barbiturate addict from the 1920s (which would help offset the effects of heavy use of caffeine, but also result in the egomania that caused him to write his magnum opus).

Look for alcohol/other-psychoactive drug addiction whenever awful behaviors present. Because nearly every despot and serial and mass murderer can be shown to be such an addict when we dig deep enough.
Reformedhippy 3k posts, incept 2020-07-01
2023-01-24 19:46:41


Meh. Plenty of addicts have nowhere near such abilities, simply low level bad behaviors. Plenty of very bad people who don't touch any mood altering chemicals whatsoever. There may be some correlation regarding proclivities but certainly not a tight venn overlay.
Boredfree 1k posts, incept 2021-09-15
2023-01-25 11:04:07

Maybe, people who are predisposed to being assholes, are also the type whom like to relax/stimulate with chemicals.

Their addiction comes from their psychological self and not the other way around...

The problem is most people want to point a finger rather than their thumb when dealing with challenges.
Douglasthorburn 41 posts, incept 2019-02-05
2023-01-26 23:16:38

@Reformedhippie: plenty of addicts have extraordinary abilities. Consider, on the good side, nearly every musician ever who has made revolutionary change in music, from Beethoven to John and Paul; consider 30% of Academy Award winning actors; consider that five of eight Nobel Prize winning authors from the United States during the 20th Century were alcoholics (and yes, I can prove all of these). Roughly half of WWII flying aces were alcoholics; many heroes have this disease (and I call it that because addicts process the drug differently than do non-addicts).

On the good and bad side, there are plenty of high-functioning CEOs, lawyers, scientists and physicians. The addiction expert physicians interviewed in my research years didn't hesitate in stating categorically 20% of medical personnel are substance addicts; lawyers who half-understood the subject suggested 25% of their peers are such addicts. On the bad side, think of nearly every despot in history, from Ivan the Terrible to Stalin, Mao and Hitler; more recently, Kim Jong Un and Kim Jong Il. They had to be really good at what they were doing--getting into a position from which they could destroy people's lives. I call that extraordinary ability.

There are not very many bad people who don't touch any mood altering chemicals whatsoever; you just haven't dug deep enough. I have.

Boredfree: you've got cause and effect reversed. People who are predisposed to addiction are more likely assholes. Show me a recovering addict and I'll often who you someone who is the opposite, because sobriety requires humility, an acceptance that they are not Gods.

There's a very good reason for this: alcoholism (and some of the other substance addictions) cause egomania. Egomania impels the addict to have a need to wield power over others, which takes form in abusing others in some way, shape or form. Nearly every case of domestic violence, murder, serious false accusations (including the false accusation of rape), rape itself, and financial and other frauds are perpetrated by addicts. This is not to say every addict commits such heinous crimes; thank God they do not, or we'd all be dead or in penury. But if there is such a crime, look for an addict; if you are able to look deep enough, you'll nearly always find one.

Are there exceptions? Sure. But nearly every time I think I've found one, I'm eventually disavowed of the notion. And when I've looked for proof of addiction based on behavior patterns (wielding capricious power over others, for example), it has often taken years or hundreds of pages of reading a biography or multiple biographies to find the proof I was looking for.

Their addiction does not come from their psychology. It comes from genetics. You are either born with the predisposition, or you are not. And if you think, oh hell, anyone could become an addict, including yourself, just try drinking like an alcoholic. If you are not an addict, you won't be able to.

I had to redefine alcoholism to make sense of the topic. The commonly accepted definition requires loss of control over use. I realized that's a late, late stage alcoholic. After learning from recovering addicts they had triggered their alcoholism during their first drinking episode, average age 13, I asked, what does it look like in the early stages, long before loss of use? I realized it looked like destructive behaviors directed at others. With some other adjustments, I redefined it as:

A genetic disorder that causes the afflicted person to biochemically process the drug in such a way as to cause that person to act badly some of the time.

Using that definition you can spot hidden alcoholics, long before it becomes obvious late-stage addiction. There is no other way to do so. And it's immensely interesting, explaining so many in our personal and work lives, as well as current events, biographies and history. You cannot understand the person, the history, without understanding alcohol and other-drug addiction. And this makes it extraordinary useful, as you know what you are dealing with on a personal level: someone who is capable of anything.

Just ask any long-time recovering addict if they can honestly disagree with any of this. They won't be able to.
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