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 Coof Wars Epilogue
Tickerguy 192k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2023-01-14 16:21:09

@Thegreatunwashed sorry, that equivalence doesn't play.

If you don't like my view on it that's fine, but calling your host's view "childish" is a good way to earn a banhammer. Its like coming into someone's house and shitting on the carpet. Disagreement is fine, that's not.

The simple problem is that the act was dishonest and goes to core of who you are. You'll steal when you want to, in short. And no, its not victimless as is speeding up until you cause an accident as a result (for which you'll get hammered, and justly so.)

"NO" is the most-powerful word in the English language but like most power it is not free. Those who did this were looking for the power without the price. Well, fine -- you told me who you are and I now get to judge whether I want anything to do with you as a consequence. Guess what: That's not a protected class so I can and will shred your resume if I ever see it.

Don't like it? That's nice. Go take your sanctimonious bullshit somewhere else.

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The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Tickerguy 192k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2023-01-14 16:21:30

@Spitcher2 there is a Ticker in the queue on that....

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The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Forever_young 76 posts, incept 2022-11-22
2023-01-14 16:40:36

@asimov

Quote:
"Oh? You had the shot? Well you have to have this shot too, or you're going to die."


It took a lot for me to hold back at a meeting about a year ago. Those who took the clot shot either freely or by coercion were feeling high and mighty at the time. Talking down about the pandemic of the unvaccinated. Jeez, why can't they just do it and end this. Then the booster mandate came out.

"Wait, what? They'll keep doing this?"

Yes, you moron, they will. And guess what, you can't object for any reason because you already took the first one! Enjoy it, asshole.
Nelstomlinson 822 posts, incept 2011-12-21
2023-01-14 16:44:55

The kindest thing we could say about faking the !vax is that you were a weakling, who went along to get along. As others said, you made it harder for the others to resist.

I wouldn't hire them for any position where character mattered.
Nelstomlinson 822 posts, incept 2011-12-21
2023-01-14 16:45:03

Quote:
And guess what, you can't object for any reason because you already took the first one!

Ah, but you can! A religious exemption is based on sincerely held belief. It doesn't matter how recent it is. That's what the OSHA rules say, very directly.
Tickerguy 192k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2023-01-14 16:46:13

@Nelstomlinson Notice this from you?
Quote:
Ah, but you can! A religious exemption is based on sincerely held belief. It doesn't matter how recent it is. That's what the OSHA rules say, very directly.

I thought right above that you said character matters......

You see, it always does, particularly in employment of any sort. In fact it is an absolute disqualifier for any employer who gives a shit about anything at all, including their own bottom line, unless you're digging ditches -- and maybe even then.

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The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Heartlander 2k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2023-01-14 16:48:45

@Gtbseeker
Quote:
I've been in a prolonged dialogue with the docs in my family, trying to provide them alternate information to encourage them to, first, stop boosting and, second, to stop pushing this poison

Kudos to you! There is one doctor in my family, my nephew by marriage, and early on, he asked me not to send him any more info on Covid or the vaxxx. Nevertheless, I would, every once in a while send him something else -- like, I know you said you weren't interested, but I really think you'll want to see THIS! (Karl's post about the results in that one Spanish nursing home was one example of this that I remember specifically.) Finally, his wife emailed me and said very firmly, please STOP sending us anything Covid-related.

And I've just been avoiding them ever since. Which breaks my heart. I thought the world of him for years,and he and my late husband were very close. Lot of fond memories going back many years. Now, just thinking about him makes me sad.

Maybe if I had tried talking to him face-to-face, instead of just sending emails, I might have had more success. I deeply regret that I did not. As I said, kudos to you for doing the difficult work of really trying to win them over.

Disgusted 512 posts, incept 2021-07-20
2023-01-14 16:54:21

Absolutely, TG. I have an ex-wife now that might as well be dead because almost everyone where she worked buckled instead of saying NO!!! I'm sure there are some that got fake cards there. If the majority said fuck you, the assholes would have had to stop mandating it. The company would have folded. I tried to stop her, but in then end she did it to herself by not saying NO. She is so fucked up now, she can barely function. I told her asshole brother that works for Pfizer, that he's going to have to use his ill gotten gains from working at the criminal organization to take care of her for the rest of her life, because I didn't do it to her. He and the assholes she worked for can cover all the costs. GOT DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL!!!
Thegreatunwashed 274 posts, incept 2021-09-13
2023-01-14 16:54:33

Ok, TG, fair. Thanks for the pass. You may be mellowing with age.

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I will have NO survivor's guilt, except a bit of shame for all my Schadenfreude.
Realist 169 posts, incept 2009-07-14
2023-01-14 16:54:41

This is a great entry and I agree with it. However, everyone must be aware of and fore warned about future vaccines. Big Pharma is planning to make ALL vaccines in the future have the mRNA technology in them. This means the flu vaccines, childhood vaccines and the new flu-covid-RSV vaccines (https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/moderna-c.... . Theres also some evidence that they have already given covid jabs to animals in the hope that humans will get the mRNA by eating the animals. So, everyone should be alert, on guard and be careful.
Tickerguy 192k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2023-01-14 16:55:09

@Realist of course Moderna wants to do that; its their only trick, you know. But do you think they'll get away with it? No.

The technology is a dead end. Moderna had been trying to make it work for cancer for a decade and had repeatedly failed -- on safety. Gee, I wonder why?

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The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.

Heartlander 2k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2023-01-14 17:06:31

@Tickerguy
Quote:
of course Moderna wants to do that; its their only trick, you know. But do you think they'll get away with it? No.

The technology is a dead end. Moderna had been trying to make it work for cancer for a decade and had repeatedly failed -- on safety

What makes you think they won't get away with it?

The FDA and CDC have repeatedly shown that safety is not even a thing they look at anymore.

Lest we forget:

They approved the latest Covid shot on the basis of EIGHT MICE. Which by the way were killed before they could show any ill effects.

Despite the record-breaking numbers of adverse events already in VAERS by that time, they approved the vaxx for SIX-MONTH-OLD INFANTS and up.

We call these people GHOULS for a reason. The honchos at FDA and CDC have proven beyond any shadow of doubt that they have ZERO concern for human life. What Big Pharma wants, Big Pharma gets, and safety be damned.
Tickerguy 192k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2023-01-14 17:07:39

There is a point where people start getting shot and when babies start dying from this sort of shit that might be it.

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The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Robodog 485 posts, incept 2011-06-12
2023-01-14 17:12:58

As usual, I find myself in the file cabinet drawer of dissenters re: fake vax Coof cards.

Although I was neither required to take one for the team at my part-time retail job nor did I resort to PhotoShopping a phake card, I don't find fault with those who made that decision, choosing probably the most (maybe only) pragmatic/ethical choice for them & those directly affected, e.g. their dependents.

In regards to telling the truth, I respect/agree with the following rationale:
International Bible Students wrote..

A lie is a false statement made to one by another, who is entitled to hear & know the truth and which false statement tends toward injury to the other.

My body, my mind, my spirit, my health, my money, my choice, my business, because...property rights protection.


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Defiance to tyrants is obedience to God. ~Franklin
...the people must fight back how they can. Reverend Syn
Asimov 141k posts, incept 2007-08-26
2023-01-14 17:13:20

You know. I haven't brought it up, but there's something that's been rattling around in my brain for a while now. I know far too many people who refused to take the vaccine.

Did they lie about the numbers of doses given too? Would it shock you to find out that it's not 80% of the population, but 25%-50%?

I'm seriously starting to think that it's far less than claimed.

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It's justifiably immoral to deal morally with an immoral entity.

Festina lente.
Nelstomlinson 822 posts, incept 2011-12-21
2023-01-14 17:13:33

Oh, sure character matters. It's almost the only thing that matters. Getting !vaxxed might be only foolishness. Faking it indicates bad character. I might hire a ditch digger with bad character. There aren't many other positions where I'd chance it.

The point of my second post above is that getting !vaxxed in the past doesn't keep you from getting a religious exemption in the future, per OSHA rules.
Evergreen 255 posts, incept 2021-12-26
2023-01-14 17:20:53

Blackcrow has the bead.

Tickerguy called the 3% long ago based upon walking up to--but not beyond--the line demarcating provable versus conjecture. Respectable, highly so, given the wild west of claims in every regard. In essence, TG sets the floor for expectations going forward. Good insight, good call, evidence based.

Blackcrow comes at this from the practitioner's point of view with a novel skepticism. "Novel" is indeed odd, since a layperson would expect a physician practitioner to actually practice deductive and inductive logic when encountering the inexplicable. An entire generation of physicians not only allowed but EXACERBATED covid's extensive damage to the world population.

Skepticism should have been the order of the day when control mechanisms were employed early in covid.
https://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/2021....
Pretty darn good guarded skepticism there with an open mind to all possibilities.

Unfortunately for the world, in this opinion, Blackcrow is acutely dialed in on what will unfold for the following reasons, from the lay perspective:
The human body is a remarkably adaptive mechanism, highly optimized for life in its dirty, risky environment. It has a SYSTEM in place which regulates and experiments with responses to stimuli with an implied purpose of destroying or neutralizing the harms but not going overboard on the harmless, all while attempting to steer clear of self harm (i.e., the body's adviso to always know what's down range).

Life throws everything at the body, and the system works within its algorithmic constraints to deal with it. However, when the system itself is corrupted, the algorithm changes. That means, simply, that the recipe long tailored for the environment, and an actively evolving environment at that, no longer is intact.

Unless there is some identified exception, damage to the body does not result in improved prospects for longevity. Rather, damage reduces the longevity to something less than proscribed at birth. As a result, life expectancy will be reduced to some degree, material or otherwise, but reduced nonetheless.

To the matter of degree, one has to look at the mechanisms involved. If damage is to the heart, what does medicine predict for the nature of the damage? Does it imply reduction of years from normal life expectancy, or does it classify more severely in terms of life remaining from diagnosis? Whatever the answer, apply to the cardio-damaged. If severe, then massive loss of life in the next decade. If not, then foreshortened but not extremely so life expectancies. Split the difference, marked reduction in population life expectancy on cardio basis alone.

Add to that the vascular damage, the neurological damage, the possibility that prion-like formations are underway on a schedule that matches or exceeds CJD timeframe, reproductive damage.

If that weren't enough, the immune system, that amazing system, has been corrupted. It has been taught to tolerate invaders, something that no entity, biological or societal, can survive at length. The cancer hazard is a phenomenal risk. The evolving viruses that have been serially passed through a world-wide population of evolutionary filters are boresighted on the vaxxed physiology. Alone, that has the power to wipe out the vaxxed population half way to their natural life expectancies.

Perhaps a mechanistic way of looking at this will better encapsulate what is ahead. Imagine that sand of varying grits, from 60 grit to 2000 grit is mixed in randomized batches with motor oil and that the batches are sent into the fleet depot. Every vehicle that leaves the depot does so with a random stock of sand in its motor oil. Those that got dealt 60 grit don't make it very far at all. Those that got 2000 grit exclusively, perhaps they seem to run just fine, honing their bores nicely it may appear. Either way, there is no statistical support which would allow anyone to proclaim that the fleet average mileage will exceed that of a non-sanded fleet. The only question left is how drastically will it be reduced.

That can be answered with statistics. Knowing at least that the contamination was 60-2000 grit, one can see at the left that the high 60-grits collapse immediately and that there is an increase that persists. The mechanics and scientists can be queried to learn what prognosis is in store for the 2000-grits based upon wear mechanisms. That would peg the outlier class, at least from a predictive standpoint. In between, there would be some distribution curve.

Thus, a mathematical assessment in regards to the vaxx would likely present a shape quality that would begin to firm up quantitatively as the early data comes in. That may be in the form of a classic gauss curve of some shape or another based upon the variety of the mechanisms of harm and their time constants. Suffice it say, though, that the vaxxed population will reside within the curve.

Indications and empirical suppositions are that the above are, collectively, aggressive and destructive in an order of magnitude worthy of biblical proportions. That curve will peak--that's a future event, but it is a certainty--and it will be both a humanitarian disaster with orphans and extensive poverty and disease with a marked reduction in physician population (way to go medical profession mandaters), catastrophic to economies world wide.

Reason: sp.
Tickerguy 192k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2023-01-14 17:24:25

I'll take the under on the biblical thing. (Ala black plague, et.al.)

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The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Dingleberry 624 posts, incept 2011-11-06
2023-01-14 17:39:14

@Nelstomlinson,

My best buds wife did exactly that......she got the jab and then got a religious exemption from the mandated booster, as anyone who took the booster cannot say they did not hear about jab side effects. Her employer (a hospital) had to close wings down due to low staff from resignations. It only took a few to leave in a tight labor market for that to happen.

The administrators saw the financial light. Lack of profits got their attention.

Nelstomlinson 822 posts, incept 2011-12-21
2023-01-14 17:43:00

Quote:
Did they lie about the numbers of doses given too?

Pretty sure they lied about that too. There was a desperate attempt to gaslight everyone into getting !vaxxed. I believe part of that was saying that everyone is doing it. I believe that places that claimed 90%+ compliance were counting the exempt as compliant, and suggesting that meant they were !vaxxed.
Tritumi 1k posts, incept 2008-11-29
2023-01-14 19:04:45

Very intriguing question re fake vax cards. For those who feel trapped in Prison Planet, escape via Stalag 17 or Berlin Wall tradecraft appear perfectly valid. For those prepared to stand by the existential NO fight or flight comes down to preps for Are you feeling lucky, punk? (or covert action in advance of direct confrontation, that is, what Authority will call terrorism).

I considered the Photoshop routine under the first scenario but rejected it. Never felt the need as my situation is quite different being not in the USA, retired, debt free, etc.

What I did do is joined an unofficial Control Group, https://vaxcontrolgroup.com/ , uploaded a photo, and created a Do Not Vaccinate card with a QR code which, when scanned, produces a notification certifying the card holder is a member of a vaccine control group, and displays a nice large green checkmark certifying same, indication of the international scope of this Control Study Group along with legal notifications stating the legal risks to those violating participants in the control group study.

Of course, this is in no way officially sanctioned by any Authority whatsoever. But if Authorities can destroy Control Group studies, plain folk can take over. I have never been in a position where I might have used this card. So I cannot provide any good story. But it was a tactical backup that, in the instance when it might have been useful, a functionary would be confused, nonplussed sufficiently to experience a "not the droids you are looking for" response.

Nice big green checkmark, you know, sourced via the Intertubes, using the tribal totem, the smart phone.

And yes, I also assumed the data base would be hacked by and possibly was even created by Authority to harvest resistors. But I am already in so many of those, some quite willingly as a form of hiding in plain sight, and others in various demented silos that relative incompetence in coordination remains still an advantage.

Though not, I suspect, for that much longer.

Gospace 10 posts, incept 2018-03-15
2023-01-14 19:08:34

So us unjabbed are far less likely to die of coinciditis, the newest term that I heard from one of my children.

At 67 and 65, me and my wife are among the vary small unvaxxed percentage in this age group. We knew at the very beginning if you didn't have significant comorbidities- you weren't going to die. And the Diamond Princess and USS Theodore Roosevelt debacle told us that the super duper anyone can get because it was so infectious disease was, well, a lie. Having spent some time shipboard, when first leaving port on a spec-op or SSBN deterrent patrol, everyone for the first 10 days or so is getting the URI everyone else has. And that's it until you get back. When everyone gets the new URIs that appeared while they were isolated. In a shipboard, that is, in an ideal situation for spreading this incredibly contagious virus, not everyone got it. And particularly on the USS Theodore Roosevelt- some only knew they had it because they tested positive with no symptoms. In other words, they weren't sick, and probably were never able to spread it since they were not sick.

So I could right now retire. But to be honest, my job is stress free, and I make good money. And I'm drawing social security with no offset because of my age. I waited until full retirement age to start. And each year I work adds to the payout... AS long as there are enough workers to support it.

10-15 years ago I told people 10-15 years younger then me that by the time they reached retirement age, because of a shortage of skilled labor in our field they were going to offer people money to stay rather than retire. I think that date is in the not too far distant future.

Looking at what various substacks are writing about numbers and body damage from the jab, methinks we're going to reach a worse case scenario then what the original worse case scenarios predicted were.
Maurevel 1k posts, incept 2009-06-14
2023-01-14 19:10:31

Thanks for this ticker. There will be a time hopefully soon to look into what we can do for those who naively boarded the vax train and got off. Perpetrators and collaborators can rot in hell.

About faking compliance. I have little respect for the move, as the reason this came down on us was the lack of critical mass of people that said NO. You'd be shocked at how aggressive immigrants from communist countries are towards the fake compliant. I was.



I do Twitter spaces on occasion. I hear doctor debates on vax damage now. Mourning parents get a mic and tell their parts.


One one of those last night (not a debate, mostly anti covax crowd) I heard this exchange:


Anonymous Speaker: I have cancer and I realize I am probably done at this point due to vax mandates and lockdowns. What would you suggest I can do that is productive with the life I have left?

Moderator: I sympathize. I talk about vax effects but I am not a doctor and I don`t give medical advice

(I thought the moderator misread the question and I was right)

- That's not what I'm asking. I am going to be dead anyway. You know what I do (the moderator and the anonymous speaker knew each other from past exchanges). What do you think I should do that is useful?

(Pause)

- I suggest you go with God.


This is a terminally-ill man in a public recorded space where anonymity is all relative openly asking who is best to take with him in death.

There can't be only one.

Don't mean to end on a dark note. I'm not even sure it is a dark note. If that man took a policy maker with him I'd say the policy maker got off easy.
Tickerguy 192k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2023-01-14 19:15:09

Yep.

And I'd say he bought a ticket to Heaven.

I might be wrong but I'll lay that bet.

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The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Querant 498 posts, incept 2021-09-19
2023-01-14 20:05:18

@Tritumi

That Control Group card is hilarious!

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