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 11-17 TrumpCast (Podcast)
Workerbee 5k posts, incept 2009-03-18
2022-11-17 18:57:02

Honestly, let's say DeSantis goes out of his way to apologize and accept responsibility for his role in jabby jabbed jab, passports, $ for procedures (not outcome specific), and the lockdowns.

Where's justice for the vaxxed dead and injured?

Where's justice for the nonvaxxed that lost their job, business, their livelihood?

Fuck the abortion issue.
It's an afterthought (literally, and figuratively).

How do you tell ANYONE what must go, stay, remain, or be removed from the person's own body?
Answer that godamn question, because NO ONE will tell me what goes inside, outside or around my fucking body unless I comply.
That includes a fucking seat belt.
I won't do it if I don't want to do it.
And fuck anyone's sensibilities, it's MY life.
And I am not now, nor will I ever be, anyonee's slave.

(But if ya offer me enough money, there's always the possibility I might say yes. Lofl. I'm referring to a mask at work, I pretend to wear, while they pretend they're paying me)

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'Keep pushing fuckers, you'll find the trip wire eventually'
~ Quik49

'This is the part where you find out who you are'
Tickerguy 190k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2022-11-17 18:58:26

Yep.

A new party running on this and dismantling the monopolists can win.

The existing party folks? They lose.
All of them.

The GOP blew that up this cycle and i doubt there is any way to recover from it.

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The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.

Kikknback 1k posts, incept 2020-03-17
2022-11-17 19:51:47

Great Podcast.

You don't need a new party.

You just need someone with the balls to jump in right now, early, and point out all of the facts that will let the air out of the TROJAN TRUMP'S balloon he's riding in, and then lay out a plan to move forward from this mess that the people can understand and get behind.

I'm laughing my azz off watching people talk about other politicians who should replace the TROJAN TRUMP, who could have a chance at winning, when fact is they are just as corrupt or they would not have been able to rise to the high position they are in.

All over the web, people have gone to LOWES to buy knee pads to service DeSATAN, who is guilty of MASS MURDER too and denied WE THE PEOPLE of their Constitutional Civil Rights, yet they would pick him.

I see a huge, wide open gap, to run straight up the middle for a touchdown with the present players on both sides.

Think Reagan coming after Carter, but they will need to be ten times more charismatic than Reagan. Whoever it is will need to be able to move the masses on both sides to awaken them, and that is what separates True Leaders from wannabees. A True Leader is capable of starting a movement. A wannabee can only start a bowel movement.

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"The most grotesque act of Treason is to be born into a free Constitutional Republic, for which you did not risk your life or shed blood to create, and sit back and watch it slowly be taken from you w
Tickerguy 190k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2022-11-17 19:53:02

You can't get to the Republican funding thus you need a new party and to strangle the GOP.

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The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Kikknback 1k posts, incept 2020-03-17
2022-11-17 20:41:19

You'd need 50% of each party to walk away, and vote for the new party. Knowing human psychology, as you surely do, I don't see 50% of people in each party breaking their party affiliations. I don't see 50% of the Republicans crossing over, and 99% of the democrats are 100% aligned with communist ideals / brainwashed and can't think for themselves, so that means you need 60% of Republicans walking away and all swing voters.

The people aren't in enough pain yet for masses like that to be encouraged to move to a new party, but who knows what it will be like by NOV 2024.

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"The most grotesque act of Treason is to be born into a free Constitutional Republic, for which you did not risk your life or shed blood to create, and sit back and watch it slowly be taken from you w
Bluto 1k posts, incept 2021-07-10
2022-11-17 20:41:32

I don't see how a new party doesn't devolve into a series of perpetual splits over personality and other disagreements. The end result being a decade-long dominance by the Democrat party.

Something to keep an eye on: the incoming Florida state senate president is saying that passing a 12-week abortion ban will be a priority for her.

The Republicans, now with super-majorities in both the state house and state senate, likely have the votes.

If DeSantis is going to run for president, will he veto that and use the veto as a pivot to a more reasonable position on abortion?

I can't believe he would be dumb enough to sign such a bill after the Republicans just got trounced over the issue is most states, if he is indeed going to run.


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"One man with courage makes a majority" Andrew Jackson
Ee4fire 759 posts, incept 2011-03-24
2022-11-17 20:41:53

Karl,

I thought your video was well thought out and makes a very good argument for many of the issues you covered.

1. Abortion

I agree with about 90% of your position. Abortion should never be "outlawed". There are medical reasons that may require the pregnancy be terminated. A non-viable child should not be considered and abortion, but a medically necessary procedure. Ginsburg thought Roe was a bad decision because of its privacy provision. Alito made a great opinion putting the decision back to the state legislatures.

Abortion should not be used as birth control. If an innocent unborn child is not considered a human life, then we just devalued all human life. The "my body my choice" crowd leaves out when a man and woman engage in consensual sexual activity, they made a choice with their bodies knowing a pregnancy can result. Human history believed a sexual relationship should be within the marital relationship. The purpose of a marital and sexual relationship was to create a family and procreate the human race. As humans we are supposed to rely on intelligence or reason and not instinct to make decisions. We are not rabbits and should not act like them. If you pursue a sexual relationship and don't want to get pregnant there are methods/procedures to prevent pregnancy from happening. You live with the decisions you make and take responsibility.

I went to college with a young woman who became pregnant in a consensual sexual relationship. She took the baby to term and put it up for adoption versus terminating the pregnancy. She remained in school and obtained her degree. 40 years later she is married and has a family. A pregnancy from a nonconsensual relationship should be up the woman. She can carry it to term, decide to keep or put the child up for adoption.

2. The Wu-Flu & Jab

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Trump was led to believe we could make a safe vaccine by medical professionals. I think the evidence shows the professionals knew otherwise. Trump is not a doctor, but a businessman who became POTUS. Any businessman who is responsible for a business has to make many decisions about the business. No person knows everything and relies on professionals or "experts" in the field of knowledge needed. We know the doctors at NIH, CDC, and FDA provided incorrect information and advice to Trump. I can't blame him for following the advice of the professionals employed by the gov't who blew it. The false info given to Trump was monetarily beneficial to the who gave it to Trump. This should never have happened.

Trump pushed the jab, but he never mandated it. He still pushes it and I don't agree with him. I have not been jabbed and will not submit to it. Biden and the Dems mandated it. We know now Trump was given a lot of confusing and false information to make decisions on WuFlu protocols and treatment. I think the clot shot decisions are owned by Fauxi and Birx. Trump was POTUS, but they wanted were the "experts". They put their faces on TV and pushed it. They even knocked Trump for pushing HCQ and Ivermectin and had the press jump on the bandwagon.

I wonder if Trump knew that Fauxi funded the WuFLu disaster, would he have fired Fauxi and not followed his advice. Trump still pushes the jab, which I disagree, but still does not believe in the mandate. I agree the guaranteed payments for treatment were the incorrect procedure. So was giving additional monies if a death was considered to be related to the WuFLu. Trump was crucified by the gov't bureaucracy, media, and many others for pushing HCQ and Ivermectin. The media blamed for the deaths of two people who took some aquarium tablets because HCQ was an ingredient in them. One died and on was hospitalized. Those two tried for a Darwin Award and one of then earned it.

I disagreed with the extended shutdowns. Trump left it up to the states, which as you said are 50 individual entities and they can experiment as they wish. Trump was incessantly trashed for going against some of Fauxi's recommended procedures. If you remember they were vilifying Trump for his federal response. Meanwhiled praising Cuomo for the disaster he caused in NY. Trump was being laughed at when he said he would have the USHS Comfort in NY harbor in 10 days. Everyone said it would be weeks. It was in NY harbor in 10 days ready to clean up Cuomo's mess. He had the Army/USHS set up the Javits Center in NY as treatment hospital. Cuomo sent the infected to nursing home and not the Javits hospital They ended closing it because Cuomo wasn't using it to its potential.

Remember the ventilator fiasco Cuomo was screaming about? Trump got Ford Motor and some other companies to build ventilators. Next thing we know we have more ventilators than we needed. Unfortunately, ventilators were not a good treatment for a majority of the WuFLu cases. Trump showed a lot of leadership and got a bloated bureaucracy that was mostly against him to move and deploy quickly. Bush & Obama could not get the gov't to move out of its own way. Bush quote "Hell of a job Brownie!" after the Katrina fiasco.

3. USSC

Any conservative court appointee is a throw of the dice. Most tend to become more liberal over time. Exceptions Scalia and Thomas. You can go back and look at multiple conservative appointments by many other POTUS who changed philosophy after they were on the court for a period of time. Souter, Kennedy, and O'Connor come to mind.


4. Politicians in General

I take my voting choices seriously. I will not waste my vote on Cthulhu or Mickey Mouse. Trump is a flawed individual with a massive ego, but anyone running for POTUS these days needs a massive ego. I want someone who will run the gov't as written in the Constitution. No one has been perfect in this detail but that is why there are 3 branches of gov't. So far Trump has been the only candidate close to doing it as I think it should be done. When it comes to the person overseeing the bureaucracy, then I am making the choice, how limited it is, for the person who closely fits my beliefs. I had to hold my nose to vote for McCain & Romney, because Obama did not come close to convincing me he believed in the Constitution.

DeSantis isn't perfect and falls short in some areas, but he beat two idiots. If you think Gilliam and Crist would have done a better job, then I would be surprised. His appointment of Dr. Ladapo as Surgeon General has impressed me when I have seen him on the news. He has pushed back on a lot this WuFlu madness.

MD just elected a progressive socialist Gov. who will have no problem with jab/mask mandates and other stupidity. I am expecting a disaster of regs and other woke policies. There will never be the perfect candidate/politician. I can accept we are electing imperfect people. Hopefully they will have the citizens best interest at heart and govern within the aspects of the Constitution. You have pointed out some areas where Trump fell short. Compared to what we have now, he was much better.

I enjoy reading and listening to your points of view. It makes one think about their positions and thoughts on different topics.

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(Politicians), 536 commoditized temple monkeys pawing through the ruins of America in search of bribes. (The District of Corruption) works like a vending machine. You put coins in the slot, select yo
Tickerguy 190k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2022-11-17 20:46:30

@EE4fire - Do recall that Trump went after Sweden when they refused to lock down and claimed they were killing their citizens.

He was not just wrong -- he was literally dead wrong, as our "pay for RunDeathIsNear" along with vents, which we knew in *April* of 2020 were worthless (I published the data as it came right out of China and proved they didn't work) was nothing more than paying hospitals to kill people.

Yet that was HIS policy out of HIS CMS director who he could have fired and reversed -- but did not.

I do not vote for someone who fucked up me up the ass on the claim that the other guy will fuck me with a larger dick.

If that's all a political party has to sell then they deserve to lose and I will do whatever I can to make sure they do. It is the only way to apply pressure on them to convince them to stop that shit and STOP FUCKING PEOPLE IN THE ASS.

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The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.

Bluto 1k posts, incept 2021-07-10
2022-11-17 22:12:53

I'd forgotten about the Sweden Tweet, but I do remember how he went after Governor Kemp in Georgia, when Kemp was the first governor to open his state back up.


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"One man with courage makes a majority" Andrew Jackson
Kikknback 1k posts, incept 2020-03-17
2022-11-17 22:32:55

Ee4fire wrote..
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Trump was led to believe we could make a safe vaccine by medical professionals. I think the evidence shows the professionals knew otherwise. Trump is not a doctor, but a businessman who became POTUS. Any businessman who is responsible for a business has to make many decisions about the business. No person knows everything and relies on professionals or "experts" in the field of knowledge needed. We know the doctors at NIH, CDC, and FDA provided incorrect information and advice to Trump. I can't blame him for following the advice of the professionals employed by the gov't who blew it. The false info given to Trump was monetarily beneficial to the who gave it to Trump. This should never have happened.

Trump pushed the jab, but he never mandated it. He still pushes it and I don't agree with him. I have not been jabbed and will not submit to it. Biden and the Dems mandated it. We know now Trump was given a lot of confusing and false information to make decisions on WuFlu protocols and treatment. I think the clot shot decisions are owned by Fauxi and Birx. Trump was POTUS, but they wanted were the "experts". They put their faces on TV and pushed it. They even knocked Trump for pushing HCQ and Ivermectin and had the press jump on the bandwagon.

The TROJAN TRUMP is a fraud who has brainwashed people into believing he is a wealthy, and successful businessman and to prove it he lied and "refuses" to show his taxes he promised to show. If he showed them, they would prove how dumb he is, and the fraud he is, just like his actions with Covid-19 "PROVED" how dumb he truly is.

Dumb kills people, and "TROJAN TRUMP" didn't just kill them, he MASS MURDERED them.

Any successful businessman at that level has a very "well rounded real world education", and with that "well rounded real world education" they are able to interview and install true leaders in their organization, business or political, that can obtain the right information on different topics in that particular associate's expertise.

Here's the clincher. The "Leader/President" needs to be highly intelligent in order to listen to the info presented from their associate as the info is explained, and be able to scrutinize if the information presented adds up after using their common sense, and all other skills they've acquired throughout their career, so they can "make the right decision".

Real leaders might not be an expert in a particular field, but they can become an expert when they have an intelligent associate on their team brief them with a crash course of the facts and evidence.

The TROJAN TRUMP isn't intelligent enough to surround himself with highly intelligent associates, and even if he were, he's not intelligent enough to understand the highly technical info to make correct decisions.

His actions throughout Covid-19, and present, prove the above to be true.

All of the successful business people here know what I'm going to say here is true. All successful intelligent business people have a certain demeanor / presence about them, and when they speak they prove they are highly intelligent. When the TROJAN TRUMP speaks, he only proves one thing, he doesn't "have it".

The TROJAN TRUMP doesn't "have it", and every successful businessman can read and know when they have a BS'r in their presence.

A college drop-out knows it takes years for a new medicine to be proven safe, yet the TROJAN TRUMP did not understand this, nor did he protect the public from this, which proves he not only doesn't have any intelligence, he doesn't have any common sense either.

He should sell his plane, and buy a boat and sell real estate courses on late night TeeVee from Florida, just like Tom Vu back in the 1980's economic meltdown.....and just go away.

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"The most grotesque act of Treason is to be born into a free Constitutional Republic, for which you did not risk your life or shed blood to create, and sit back and watch it slowly be taken from you w
Tickerguy 190k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2022-11-17 22:33:40

An actual businessperson understands that whatever you pay for you'll get more of.

Well, he paid for death and he got more of it.

For that he should executed, not running for President.

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The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Fumei 3k posts, incept 2019-01-08
2022-11-18 07:44:26

Trump was fucked by medical professionals, et al traitors. And he let them continue to love fuck us long time. One way he could have returned the fucking in kind would have been to issue the following orders during one of his big televised rallies a couple of years ago.

"I, Donald Jerk-off Trump, Presidente de los Estados Unidos de Ameriduh, hereby order the Militia to assemble and immediately seise and secure the ballots cast in [insert the names of the various contested States and Commonwealths] so they are counted without fraud. All of you Patriots here go spread the word far and wide now."
Kari 49 posts, incept 2021-10-19
2022-11-18 10:39:09

I am about as strongly pro-life as it is possible to be. This was initially a reaction against the culture when I was dating in the late 90s-early 00s, when most strongly pro-choice people I knew were men, not women. Many of my women friends and acquaintances over the years since have had abortions, for the most inane reasons imaginable, and this also bothered me. I also wanted children and could not have them, so it is partly personal, but just from a biological standpoint, like you said in this ticker, it's taking a life, there is no way I can reason my way around that for the vast majority of abortions.

However, for the fringe cases, including conception via sexual assault, I have never wanted to have a blanket ban on abortion. In my city there has been a recent rape that has gotten a lot of attention:

https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/crime/....

This man raped a women in a port-a-jon, had his bond reduced by a 'compassionate' judge, and has multiple prior sexual assaults, and somehow continues to receive compassion from our judicial system. I cannot imagine how I would feel if I were the victim in this case, to have experienced what she experienced, then to see the judge try to help him out (a female judge, no less), after other judges have decided to help him out on prior cases. If on top of all that, she conceived a child in the port-a-jon? I don't think what she chose to do about that should be anyone's business but hers. I know there are some people who would oppose even giving her the 'morning-after' pill in the hospital immediately following her assault. And I understand that, to be honest, but I think you're right Karl that many women think of situations like this far more than people realize. And even if you are beyond your fertile years or infertile, it's still difficult not to empathize or to imagine it happening to someone else. Republican messaging lost the plot entirely on the abortion question, in my opinion.

All that being said, I still didn't personally change my vote on this basis, but it's easy to understand why some did.
Metalqueen 207 posts, incept 2021-09-10
2022-11-18 11:29:27

@Sonoran_monk

No I definitely would not consider you heartless. Bearing a child that has no chance of growing up into an independent adult comes at a tremendous cost, not only to the couple in terms of medical costs and effects on employment, but affects other children in the family and imposes a cost on society. Whitehat mentioned of the enormous amount of money spent through the welfare system on this. I can respect someone that out of personal convictions goes ahead with such a pregnancy as that is their choice, but I am absolutely against them demanding the same of others.

Baltgayveteran 118 posts, incept 2021-09-16
2022-11-18 11:29:49

@Ee4fire: "...The media blamed for the deaths of two people who took some aquarium tablets because HCQ was an ingredient in them...."

It was not HCQ but a related compound (chloroquine phosphate). Minor differences between the two can produce a compound (chloroquine phosphate) toxic to humans.
Tickerguy 190k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2022-11-18 11:30:13

And it was later shown that the woman who gave it to her husband actually was trying to kill him if I remember correctly.

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The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Jw. 596 posts, incept 2019-10-10
2022-11-18 16:32:29

@Fumei, Trump FOLLOWED traitors. If he was as smart as he claims he would have figured that out and stopped if his true intentions were to fix this country. If you want to change things its best not to take the advice of the people who created the problem...

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The spending must continue, until it can't.
Jw. 596 posts, incept 2019-10-10
2022-11-18 16:32:38

I would guess that 60% to 75% of women have been raped or sexually accosted at some point.

This number is derived from the women I have dated who have admitted that such things had happened. I'm pretty sure there were a few that were not open to talking about this type of thing. So the number could be higher.

I dated one girl in college who went to Berkeley High School, she went on the pill when she entered as a freshman, not because she had a boyfriend, but because rape was so common it was the best way to avoid getting pregnant...

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The spending must continue, until it can't.
Radiosity 1k posts, incept 2009-03-05
2022-11-19 10:03:14

@Tickerguy ""Pure as the driven snow" does not include killing a million Americans, and both DeSatan and Trump are directly guilty."

A large part of the problem stems from people believing either of them to be conservative. Trump especially, who was, until 2016, a card carrying Democrat for his whole life.

Just because he ran on the Republican ticket (because the demonrats wanted Hitlery) doesn't mean he stands for anything so-called Conservatives stand for. Except insofar as it gets him votes.
Tickerguy 190k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2022-11-19 10:04:20

Yep @Radiosity.

Witness his bump stock bullshit where he actually SAID "confiscate first, due process be damned."

I'd offer a toast if someone flensed that asshole on livestream.

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The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Packetcap 952 posts, incept 2021-07-23
2022-11-19 21:16:00

Enjoyable.

If Republicans were smart, as a party they would adopt a 12 week no questions asked abortion allowance with further exceptions for medical complications, etc. Completely remove the issue from the table, across the country.

They can then, on a volunteer basis, help support single mothers etc as much as they want. They can privately discuss how abortion is killing small people, whatever. But just take the issue off the table entirely so we don't have to hear it anymore and we can get more Rs elected.

So far they show a 0% understanding of how doing the above will improve their prospects everywhere.
Ee4fire 759 posts, incept 2011-03-24
2022-11-19 21:59:29

@Karl

I don't disagree with your assessment. He made some bad decisions no argument. Who do you vote for in election? If the choice is between dumb versus dumber and by not voting you let dumber win, are you helping your cause? This is the frustration I see many of us here on this forum face. Is there a person or politician from the past or present you would support for POTUS or other office?

We can nitpick bad decisions any politician or government official makes. Are they making more of the right decisions than wrong ones? We will all die first if we wait for the perfect politician to vote for. I am looking who will make the least bad decisions.

I volunteer at a local holiday parade that was held today in the MD burbs. A number of the Federal, State, & local politicians were present. US Sen Chris Van Hollen & US Rep Jamie Raskin were there. BTW, all were Dems. I watched them and their handlers. It is comical watching their sycophants and followers fawn all over them. Both have been in local MD politics for years. I was standing near the local TV station's parade announcers booth as the politicians passed by. All the announcements for the politicians were like campaign commercials.

I have a strong dislike for both men since they do not uphold their oaths to the Constitution. They like their power and prestige. So, they screw over the lemmings that vote for them because these lemmings are on the drug called gov't money.

As a DC Native I have to periodically subject myself to being in close proximity to these cretins. Although watching the children's faces when they see the Big Guy in the Red Suit washes out the eyes.


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(Politicians), 536 commoditized temple monkeys pawing through the ruins of America in search of bribes. (The District of Corruption) works like a vending machine. You put coins in the slot, select yo
Tickerguy 190k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2022-11-19 22:03:32

It is not my job to choose candidates and beyond voting in a primary I have no capacity to change that.

I will not vote to be raped with a smaller dick. Ever.

That argument is why we're here. If the choice is rape or rape then you're asking me to endorse rape. I refuse. Until the people decide to nut up and force that shit to stop the only peaceful answer is to refuse.

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The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
Lastquagga 20 posts, incept 2022-04-30
2022-11-20 09:38:20

@Jw., re: Trump listening to traitors, while an element of truth there, I wouldn't hold that part of it against him. I didn't ever vote for him, but as I watched him allow that prick Pence to kick out the only guy with decent cred on his transition team, Flynn, I knew we were looking at a disaster in slow motion. He followed it up by selecting three of the absolute worst generals he could have picked, Petraeus and Light Horse Harry Lee not being available at the moment.

@Kari, I'm quite a bit older, as in Roe was decided while I was in high school, but, yeah, it was mostly guys who wanted abortions back in my day, too. Worse, though, is the emotional hell girls go through, second-guessing their decisions made under duress. I was acquainted with one in college who always "celebrated" her baby's deathday, and took her own life on that day our junior year. And there are always a few who come to church for counseling years later, still unable to forgive themselves.

I'm not for banning it, but I am a pro-life absolutist. As in it's wrong, but IME, women will punish themselves way more than society would anyway.

@TG, you don't think a "Republican" who ran on (and let's just say actually governed on) the 10th Amendment would be worth your vote, regardless of his opinion on abortion? That is, "It's none of my business -- you states do as you wish."
Eleua 21k posts, incept 2007-07-05
2022-11-20 09:39:01

@Packetcap

Quote:
If Republicans were smart,


That's where you lost me.

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