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 The Republicans Shot Themselves In The Head -- Twice
Veeger 889 posts, incept 2013-02-13
2022-11-14 11:20:16


Alas, I cannot claim to have originated the term. I first heard/read it in 2Thesalonians 2:11. Whether what we are witnessing is part of what this talks about or merely a prelude, the depth along with it's worldwide reach is indeed sobering. One can begin to 'see' how such things might unfold if they're of a mind to consider the source.

For purposes of context I'll include this in the Phillips version


I expect you remember now how I talked about this when I was with you. You will probably also remember how I used to talk about a restraining power which would operate until the time should come for the emergence of this man. Evil is already insidiously at work but its activities are restricted until what I have called the restraining power (of God) is removed. When that happens the lawless man will be plainly seenthough the truth of the Lord Jesus spells his doom, and the radiance of the coming of the Lord Jesus will be his utter destruction. The lawless man is produced by the spirit of evil and armed with all the force, wonders and signs that falsehood can devise. To those involved in this dying world he will come with evils undiluted power to deceive, for they have refused to love the truth which could have saved them. God sends upon them, therefore, the full force of evils delusion, so that they put their faith in an utter fraud and meet the inevitable judgment of all who have refused to believe the truth and who have made evil their play-fellow.

I remember the Diamond Princess.

Slowly at first, then all of a sudden.
Evergreen 213 posts, incept 2021-12-26
2022-11-14 11:35:38

There was a posting in the ether in the last couple of days wherein a woman cancelled her voter registration in the month prior to the election, retained the ballot that was sent to her anyway, and then checked online to see if her ballot had been cast...and it had been.

If this is true, this is ground zero for the lawsuit to unzip this entire fraud. How so? Because, the damage is real, and it proves in prima facie fashion that, at a minimum, one of two states exist: 1) non-secured procedures or 2) organized fraud.

Any trip taken down that path turns up new names and evidence that is all, provided funding is available to propel the effort, constructive information for the wider public to genuinely SEE organized vote fraud at a STATE level. In other words, it's real, and it ain't some delusional, fringe nut making outrageous accusations based upon anecdotal experience or imagination. Start there, and this thing has legs. Plus, wherever else this happens is another court case, so countless cases can be pursued across as many jurisdictions, at some point encountering a legitimate judge who won't quash everything.

If, in the words of critic, this is balderdash, then very simply, the game's up. If the courts are a useless waste of time, then the whole point of a republic is for naught.

In a purely technical sense, ONE vote cast illegitimately in such fashion is cause to shut down the process, as once proven, it is mortal to the viability of its purpose: trustfully tabulating votes.
Stephanie 46 posts, incept 2021-12-06
2022-11-14 12:35:53

I wrote an analysis after the midterms about why conservatives lose...and abortion is a HUGE factor, if not THE deciding factor.

Conservatives who spend their lives married have zero idea what the dating scene is like, how much pressure young women are under to have sex, and how scary it is to be a single woman possibly facing pregnancy with ZERO support from the father and not much support from elsewhere either.

Please don't blame just "feminists" on this. You also need to blame the guys who want sex for nothing and otherwise are wasting their time smoking pot and playing video games instead of growing the hell up.

So until you change that dynamic, banning abortion outright means you will lose elections.

The other factor is that Christians are impotent in America. I'm not talking about morality teachings. I'm talking about the charity and engagement side of things. We have conservative Christian Republicans who lecture but don't follow Jesus - they just sit on their hands for the most part whining and complaining but without actually doing anything of measurable impact to help out or change things.

For example, Arizona's voting problems should have been fixed in the past 2 years. That's on every Republican in Arizona who didn't bother to show up and volunteer. Please don't give me the excuse that "conservatives have jobs." I know plenty of conservatives with a ton of free time who could be volunteering but would rather just sit at lunch and complain about evil Democrats.

The future is not the Republican party. Russell Brand has a much better vision that is appealing to both sides, and if we get out of this, that's what will get us there, not legalistic, angry, let's-ban-all-abortions-without-exception, overly-pious-but-not-actually-Christian, lazy, judgmental Christianity.
Ocdawg 388 posts, incept 2019-03-14
2022-11-14 12:43:14

@ many TF responses:

On voting:

Pretty sure we had issues in 2020. Seems we still did this election (WHY???????)
Florida, despite a hurricane devastating a large part of the state, had results DONE in roughly 5 hours, SAME DAY.

Common sense question: why is any other state still counting "votes?"

Common sense ANSWER: FRAUD... PERIOD. Any other conclusion is pure fantasy

"I say we take off, nuke the entire site from orbit... it's the only way to be sure"
USA= smiley
Ocean_eyes7 6 posts, incept 2022-06-26
2022-11-14 12:43:39

Flimsy Graham is probably the biggest sackless backstabber we have in DC. When his butt-buddy McCain kicked the bucket, Graham seemed to have his jar o' nuts returned to him. I don't know what blackmail, or other love letters they had between them, but he seemed to be a different man. He acted hard-nosed and seemed to do a 180 turnaround for about two years... right up to the 2020 election, when Trump lost to 81M vote Biden. Then stab Trump while ignoring the SC voters who believed that he actually changed and reelected him. I know a lot of people who had sworn "never again" vote for Graham, but were duped when the leopard rearranged his spots once McCain went to his hot afterlife.

The FTX, Holee shit. If this is what it looks like it is (it's always the probable evidence that makes it hard to catch real criminals), this is grounds to declare an automatic 50-state secession from this federal entity and reformation of all legislature, and executive branch chairs. Including all agencies and aides. Rip em out stem to stern. I don't know about the judiciary, since they are nominated and appointed by different means, and political campaign money is largely irrelevent (directly to them, indirectly via the senators and president).

I deeply loathe the idea of a 'constitutional convention', but something akin to that in regards to scale may be necessary.
Greenacr 698 posts, incept 2016-03-15
2022-11-14 12:45:35

@ Veeger "When one considers that more than half (by a fair amount) took the jabs, one must understand that these people are essentially of the mindset as your Lead RN example. Sure, there are some who won't take another booster and even fewer who have 'serious doubts' about the jabs."

I call BS on your first assertion. Early in the pandemic, my wife (who has severe occupational asthma due to work place accident) consulted our family doctor and her pulmonologist and with reservations followed their advice and got both Moderna shots. Later as more info came out and Karl really started peeling back the onion we decided not to get the vaccine. I know of about 10 folks who fall into this same category. Not everyone just did this because they blindly followed some diktat.

My guess is that more and more folks have become distrustful of the vaccine as evidenced by the declining revaccination rate for covid and the fact that the flu shot is behind it's normal rollout.

Probably an outlier here but I do not know of anyone who was vaxxed that has suddenly thudded. I have 200 people at work that report into me along with a good social circle and I am not seeing it. Likewise, I have only been sick once since the moderna vax and that was 2 months ago with Covid and I was over it in a week. Still banging out a hour plus or cardio on the cross trainer with no issue as well. Not saying that these issues aren't real but again not seeing it personally.
Abelardlindsey 1k posts, incept 2021-03-26
2022-11-14 12:45:53

I'm wondering if SBF and his associates will somehow end up being snuffed out, Epstein style. Or he may well commit suicide. He and his associates are very "soft" people. I don't think they can psychologically cope with prosecution and the possibility of imprisonment.

Its all in the mitochondria
Metalqueen 207 posts, incept 2021-09-10
2022-11-14 12:46:01

Excellent Ticker as usual.

One more point in regards to the problem with the extreme anti position on the abortion issue is that it is not limited to extreme cases like the woman in Louisiana. Even less severe birth defects and issues such as Downs Syndrome can cause financial devastation for couples and families, including the well being of the family's other children. The cost (in both time and money) of raising a child that will require a lifetime of care is a reasonable fear for many. KD has hammered over and over how the medical system is systemically destroying the wealth of Americans, and even if these children can have some reasonable quality of life, the medical costs that such a child often incurs can be exorbitant. Some can handle it, and even look at it in a positive light, but many cannot. I understand these considerations may seem callous to some, but as economic conditions continue get worse it becomes a bigger and bigger issue. There is no one size fits all in these circumstances.

As for the FTX issue, the rabbit hole on this one potentially goes deep enough that it could topple the entire system. And it is just starting. I am getting out the smiley as the tentacles of it likely reach into places that are hard to fathom and the political fallout may not be limited to the Dims.

The time for smiley and smiley approaches.

The_collapsar 4 posts, incept 2021-09-14
2022-11-14 12:46:27

I'd point out inflation but here the Republican attempt to pin that on Biden fails because in point of fact it was Trump that initiated all of the programs that led to the problem.

Great article overall. I think you're giving the average voter far too much credit with the above section though! I've tried to explain it to people who reflexively blame Biden for every part of the economy, but with limited success. People don't understand the delay it takes for inflation and other problems to work their way through the system.
Jwm_in_sb 6k posts, incept 2009-04-16
2022-11-14 12:46:49

Congress will need to repeal thr fucking laws passed that allowed thr DOD and HHS to push vaxxes. That's the real reason most of them are not pursuing it. Listens to McCullough interview with Sasha Latypova and Katherine Watts substack. It lays it all out and impacts the Brooke Jackson Qui Tam case.
Susanlauren 1k posts, incept 2021-05-01
2022-11-14 12:48:36

I might add the following: A parent of one of the kids authorized the booster for her medically fragile child on the basis of "it will help protect her from catching COVID." That parent is a registered nurse and with her last jabb (booster shot) became very ill. She (the mom) is refusing any further COVID injections/ boosters for herself.

I would think, "if I became so very ill from the booster shot and I am healthy, my child who is medically fragile would be even more at risk for adverse side effects" and I would say, "hell no."

To be clear there is no way in hell I would get any COVID jabb in the first place or allow it for my child. I am utterly astounded/ stunned by the lack of critical thinking, reasoning, logic and the ability to ask key questions and evaluate risk/benefit. These people have lost their minds. I have no words.

I came home from work last night and I had a very stiff drink of whiskey (i.e., rye on ice) and then I crawled into bed.

Jwm_in_sb 6k posts, incept 2009-04-16
2022-11-14 12:49:16

Republicans will have to embrace early voting as a tactic or they will keep losing. Once they do that, Democrats will demand return to same day voting.
Jwm_in_sb 6k posts, incept 2009-04-16
2022-11-14 13:24:43

What's annoying is that many in the alt media immediately recognized the bullshit that Lindsey Graham cracker was pulling by floating that out there...they fucking knew it would be a problem.
Veeger 889 posts, incept 2013-02-13
2022-11-14 13:24:49


I wouldn't disagree that more and more people are realizing the folly of their decisions. My only point is that as a percentage, they are still quite a small group. So glad that in your circle, that is happening.

What I've been observing however, is that even some subset of folks who are 'seeing the light' are still more conditioned than even they realize to support the 'value' of the jabs. They may not want to take another one, but many still utter the now familiar 'but it could have been worse' mantra. (or the 'but I wore a mask' logic. It continues to surprise and amaze me how deep these 'beliefs' are in folks who think that they've changed their mind.

The sad reality is that both your and my 'examples' are anecdotal and like many, we have no real way to quantify and perhaps draw comfort.

I remember the Diamond Princess.

Slowly at first, then all of a sudden.
Takewhatyoucan64 85 posts, incept 2022-08-30
2022-11-14 13:25:28

Jwm_in_sb 6k posts, incept 2009-04-16
2022-11-14 12:49:16


Republicans will have to embrace early voting as a tactic or they will keep losing. Once they do that, Democrats will demand return to same day voting.

BINGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO........hate the game. dont hate the playuh
Gingersmom2009 103 posts, incept 2021-04-15
2022-11-14 13:25:49

Sundance wrote/posted the article at Conservative Treehouse on 11/9 that is now being spouted and expanded upon everywhere. We have two totally different election systems currently operating in this country. The GOP/Trump seeking votes - one person/one vote, while the dems harvest ballots - where all bets are off.

If you aren't concerned about "votes", you don't need to do interviews, deal with a grueling schedule of rallies and personal appearances, debate your opponent . . . any of it. We saw this play out in the last few weeks prior to the election.

We live an a lawless third-world country.

Dingleberry 568 posts, incept 2011-11-06
2022-11-14 13:26:05

Politics has always been choosing the lesser of two evils. Today is not exception. Tomorrow won't be either.

Anyone else here old enough remember the phrase "as safe as a baby in a mother's womb?"

Today that is a sick joke. As are many "mothers" and "fathers" for that matter. Kids are so fucked up that is will soon be normal to actually BE clinically ill, either mentally or physically. So few are even eligible to join that I just read some branches of the military are raising enlistment age to 41. That is around the age most in the military RETIRE.

Abortion has always been a wedge issue. I care not for the modern western thots who have higher body counts than Ted Bundy getting vacuumed on demand, which is where the overwhelming amount of abortions come from. Send the dem voters you know a Hoover for Christmas so they can celebrate.

It would be nice to not have abortion happen say when the baby, fetus or whatever you want to call it shows no signs of feeling getting stabbed, scalped and sucked. There's a reason why you have never seen abortion surgery on TV, despite seeing them on hearts, brains, eyeballs, etc.

I've read some dems want to abort up to date of birth. Menegele would be so proud! The crazy train has no brakes and the dems have repeatedly shown you this. Find me one significant dem who can go on record and define what a woman is. This is the kind of opposition you want to reason with? This is "moderate" to you? Fuck that. You vote for that? Don't bitch to me when the chickens come home to roost, like they already are and the party is just getting started.

So about all this body autonomy stuff....the red Govs locked their states down a year, which is bad enough...but the blue Govs locked their states down for two whole years. And they were mainly the ones pushing the jab MANDATES (despite promising not to on the campaign trail). And all those dem-appointed judges seems to love mandates too. So now you get to watch kids get myocarditis, etc. Oh well. Consider it an after-birth abortion I suppose!

And all that LIFELONG emotional, physical educational and speech damage from the years-long (plural) lockdowns, and not a single gov bounced? That tells me all I need to know about how much they care about their "beloved" children. No wonder abortion is first on their minds.

And truth be told, if it wasn't would be something else. Inflation? Blame Putin. Green energy? The world will end in 5 years unless we don't get rid of oil. And so forth.

As others have commented won't be reaching them with logic or reason. And no, they won't be voting Republican. They are in a woke cult. This is not an exaggeration. They vote blue no matter who. End of story.

The young came out in force to vote left (as predicted) this time. For freebies and student loan bailouts no doubt (which the courts just squashed). Sorry you know what it feels like to fall for dem promises of freebies and utopia, but never seem to arrive. Ask the hood rats. They have decades of experience with this.

And those dem Govs and DAs who release convicted rapists early and often (even if they get caught, which is increasingly rare). Thank God abortion is freely available. The victims living in blue zoos are going to need it. You may have read about that NYC rapist recently in one of their richest hoods. Uh oh.....the guy had 25 priors. Oh well. Just chalk the victim up to another casualty of woke criminal justice. They voted for it. They got it.

So go ahead and enjoy your abortions. Also enjoy watching your 1st and 2nd amendments, and increasingly all the rest of your rights be stripped away, that somehow lasted us 250 years given to you by by the blood of your predecessors.

They certainly won't be lasting another 250 years, now will they?!!

But hey, you still got your abortions. Take solace in that.
Greenacr 698 posts, incept 2016-03-15
2022-11-14 13:45:43

@ Veeger

Agree about the conditioning but am also hearing that folks are much much more distrusting of the government given all that has come out on the vaccines in the last year.

I am never one to question myself when I take a particular fork in the road and I never look back but just adjust from there. Took a fork on the initial two doses of the Moderna Jab but have not/will not ever take another MRNA vaccine again.
Skybluepink 811 posts, incept 2007-10-20
2022-11-14 13:46:12

In RI, Fung (R) was ahead in the polls against Magaziner (D), but lost his bid for US Rep. He won the in person vote on election day, but lost the mail-in and early votes. RI is split into two districts. The state is split almost in half from north to south along town lines, with a chunk of Providence in each district. Providence of course went heavily blue. If you took Providence out of the totals, Fung would have won. That chunk of the city overruled the suburbs. Looking at the next two cities by population, it's interesting to look at the in person versus the mail-in totals. I did the percentages just based on the Fung & Magaziner totals. In Cranston, Fung won the in-person vote 55% to 45%. He lost the mail in 69% to 31%, he still won in Cranston. In Warwick, Fung won the in person 52% to 48%, but lost the mail-in 78% to 22%, he lost in Warwick. There have been rumblings of ballots being purchased. I wonder if the FTX money trickled down to that level?
Jenrn77 1 posts, incept 2022-03-17
2022-11-14 13:46:33

Does anyone really believe the results were legit in Michigan? Channel 4 reported ON ELECTION DAY that people were going to the polls to vote and were being turned away because they had "already voted absentee". When it is MSM reporting it - you know it's bad... When school boards being elected are conservative, but politicians being voted in are not - something is fishy.....
Metalqueen 207 posts, incept 2021-09-10
2022-11-14 13:46:52


I would have made clear to him that if so much as a whisper of it ever left his cranium I'd buttfuck him so hard with the biggest animal dick I could find that he'd need a 6" diameter pipe plug to avoid shitting his pants for the rest of his miserable life.

Unfortunately Miss Lindsay would probably enjoy this smiley
Jwm_in_sb 6k posts, incept 2009-04-16
2022-11-14 13:46:59

Any way you slice it, Mitch the Bitch, Fratboy Mccarthy and Lindsey Graham cracker need to go.
Stephanie 46 posts, incept 2021-12-06
2022-11-14 14:04:48

Sundance wrote/posted the article at Conservative Treehouse on 11/9 that is now being spouted and expanded upon everywhere. We have two totally different election systems currently operating in this country. The GOP/Trump seeking votes - one person/one vote, while the dems harvest ballots - where all bets are off.

Nothing against Sundance but this is more useless handwringing and whining. My previous comment here is getting downvoted but the reality is, conservatives want to complain but then don't physically do enough to change things. There's also this bizarre conservative attachment to election day voting.

Well, folks, the upshot is that conservatives waited until the last day to vote, when all hell typically breaks lose, instead of voting early and making sure it got done. So then when the lines were two-hours long, people left. And then didn't vote at all.

And Republican ground-game is terrible. You need to put your boots on the ground and go get people who don't normally vote to send in their mail-in ballots.

The sad truth is, Democrats aren't always winning due to fraud - they have people who are going out and knocking on doors. They want it more badly.

I had a Democrat show up at my door here right before the election. They knew that I hadn't voted yet thanks to public records and were reminding me to vote. No Republicans showed up. This is why Republicans lose.

Conservatives are lost in this fantasy of what things *should be* instead of dealing with the reality and putting in the massive effort required to win and win big.
Swredpill 41 posts, incept 2022-01-04
2022-11-14 14:05:45

Conservatives who spend their lives married have zero idea what the dating scene is like, how much pressure young women are under to have sex, and how scary it is to be a single woman possibly facing pregnancy with ZERO support from the father and not much support from elsewhere either.

You are kidding right? Right?? Todays' women are amoral riders of the cock merry-go-round with body counts in the double digits, sometimes in the triple digits. Of course they all want the Alpha Chad or Tyrone who has the minimum 666 qualification. 6'plus, 6 figure income, and at least a 6" johnson. 90% of women are actively seeking out what amounts to only 10% of men.

She'll chase Chad until she gets pregnant or hits the wall in the early 30's and then she'll want to settle down with some Beta provider. However, She'll only stay with the Beta Simp until she can monkey branch to what she thinks is a better Beta Simp thusly denying the previous simp access to any kids they may have had. Ah, but she'll take half his shit and the child support in any case.

Meanwhile the father is destroyed financially and in all probability can't see his kids unless he fights continuously for it.

I figured this out early and my observation of all, and I mean all, the women I dated have followed this pattern. Some have 3 baby daddies.

If all the men in this world disappeared one day women would be starving in a couple of months. If all the women disappeared one day men would regroup, make a plan, execute the plan and some male scientist would create an artificial womb in short order.

Oh, and for the record. No, nobody hurt me. I figured this out before there was a red pill.
Tickerguy 190k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2022-11-14 14:12:45

@Swredpill -- Even if you're right its irrelevant to the election situation and @Stephanie is correct.

Whether you consider women of today amoral cockriders or nuns is irrelevant. You know damn well the truth is somewhere in the middle, but the same is true of guys. Yes, the changes in the law over the last 100 years have sucked big ones across the board, and more often than not men have gotten the short end of that stick. Doesn't matter, because that's not the question on the table.

The question on the table is given that women can and do vote, and can and do that starting at 18 years of age, and that's how it is and will remain, if you credibly threaten to throw them in prison or impoverish them if through no fault of their own they draw a short straw -- such as being raped, or carrying a severely-deformed child with no hope of any reasonable life, never mind emotionally and financially destroying them and you expect them to VOTE FOR THAT you are too stupid to claim to be a male and too stupid to draw oxygen from this planet's reserves.

Since women are half the voting population if even TEN PERCENT of them refuse to be put in this position under any circumstance the GOP can never win on its current platform in any contest that has a 5% or less margin -- and that's a HUGE number of them, plenty to insure that the GOP NEVER WINS AGAIN.

The GOP will NOT WIN until it deals with this. I don't care if you like it or not, or if you think its fair, or even if it is OBJECTIVELY fair. That's not the question on the table. The question is whether ANYONE will vote to destroy themselves and the answer is NO.

The difference between "kill" and "murder" is that murder, as a subset of kill, is undeserved by the deceased.
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