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 This Is How We Get Nuked
Reformedhippy 3k posts, incept 2020-07-01
2022-11-06 21:15:31

The last of Elon's Privateers.
One of you is more clever than I to parody this gem.

Sapper 29 posts, incept 2022-01-29
2022-11-06 21:30:32

Putin can afford to play the long game. He quietly took the time to shore up internal structures (social, economic, political, and military) to prepare.

As a former KGB spy, he was well versed in what it took to destroy the US from the inside out.

From a strategic view, he took it slow and easy with movements to contact, determined where the enemy was, pinpointed positions, movements, and logistic trains, and methodically, surgically reduced them.

He used only the munitions needed to draw the enemy out into the open, to show themselves. He didn't need to expend what the US says he is. Anything and everything you see and hear in the converged media is ass backward for a reason. It's total propaganda against us.

Putin has kept his best troops in reserve for a reason, while battle hardening his third tier troops. They'll become the scouts when and if Putin commits his best. Does he need to? In my opinion, no. With Europe about to go dark, cold, hungry, Putin can afford to keep draining the Ukraine, slowly. But he'll keep going, until Kiev crumbles. NATO will fall right behind it if not before. Wait for Germany to start begging for peace to turn the gas back on against the West's mandates.

The long pole in the tent is what will China do? If they open up a second front, and it doesn't have to take Taiwan like the US loves to trope in the news, it will take the form of an economic slowdown, they'll continue to drain the US ability to manufacture and distribute tech to the Ukraine. You won't see a new iPhone for years...

80% of the world now sees the US for what it really has become.
Heartlander 2k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2022-11-07 08:12:05

@Kontrolkaos
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the leadership of the West appears to be purposely (and grossly) misunderstanding where he [Putin] is coming from and this misunderstanding gets repeated in our mainstream media.

I think it goes beyond misunderstanding or even deliberate misunderstanding. What I have noticed for many, many years about the U.S. foreign policy establishment (including in academia) is their utter lack of curiosity about how anyone else in the world sees things. This applies not only to Russia, but to most of the world's peoples.

Oh these swamp snobs may care a bit about how Europeans see things, but the rest of the world seems to not count as "real" people.

When that EU jerk Josep Borell said a few weeks ago that "Europe is s garden, and the rest of the world is a jungle," he really captured the US/Europe attitude. And Borell is the EU's HEAD of foreign policy!!

Borell said it out loud, but this is the way the morons in our own foreign policy establishment also think -- or rather, refuse to think.

You'd think that people whose JOB is to deal with other nations would have at least some tiny bit of curiosity about them. But no. We're No. 1, we know best, that's all there is to it, and the rest of the world can just do whatever we say or we'll damn well show them who's boss.

Yeah, how's that working out, geniuses?

Arrogance makes people really stupid.
Heartlander 2k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2022-11-07 08:12:46

@Sapper
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As a former KGB spy, he was well versed in what it took to destroy the US from the inside out.

I don't think that was his goal.

But if I understand it right, other than less than 5 years as a pretty boring functionary in East Germany, his work in the KGB was in domestic counter-intelligence -- in other words, ferriting out and keeping an eye on foreign spies in Russia. I just read one article recently that said he discovered CIA agents in high places in Russia in the nightmare '90s, and when he came to power in 2000, he booted them out.

Putin's interest is not in destroying us, but in preventing us from destroying Russia. By the end of the '90s, it was a very close thing.

Patriarch Kirill recently said he believes God raised up Putin, and that if Putin had not come to power in 2000, Russia would not EXIST today. You can take Kirill with a wagonload of salt, and you can agree or disagree with his opinion. BUT the point is, millions of Russians agree.
Sapper 29 posts, incept 2022-01-29
2022-11-07 08:43:40

@Heartlander

You are correct in what his main function was, but all KGB was trained in the "arts".

I agree with his intent to protect Russia in the way he is, and to your point about Patriarch Kirill, if you've noticed the resurgence of the Russian Orthodox church and it's growing influence over Russian society since Putin came to power.
Abelardlindsey 1k posts, incept 2021-03-26
2022-11-07 10:21:32

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What I have noticed for many, many years about the U.S. foreign policy establishment (including in academia) is their utter lack of curiosity about how anyone else in the world sees things. This applies not only to Russia, but to most of the world's peoples.


Some years ago I read a book about a guy who went into CIA's clandestine service. He wanted to be a real, honest to God spy (case officer) and enjoyed living in exotic, if dysfunctional, places. What astonished him was how few of his colleagues had any interest at all in such a life and such work. They all wanted to live the good life in the DC area sipping lattes at sidewalk cafes in the nice parts of town. In James Bonds terms, he described the CIA as being comprised of thousands of "M's" and "Moneypenny's" and with very few guys doing actual field work. Most of the people doing field work want to be in nice places like Western Europe. He was astonished by the lack of curiosity about the outside word on the part of his colleagues. He said the same was even more true for the State Department.

The CIA itself is mostly analysts. The clandestine branch is a very small part of the CIA. The para-military covert stuff you hear about CIA doing all the time are military contractors comprised of ex-special forces guys (ex-SEALs, ex-Delta, etc.). These private military contractors act as cut-outs so that CIA has plausible deniability, and can maintain its latte sipping institutional culture.

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Its all in the mitochondria
Sonoran_monk 1k posts, incept 2021-08-16
2022-11-07 13:20:06

@Reformedhippy - That's a good one. Musk needs to start publishing space shanties.
Susanlauren 1k posts, incept 2021-05-01
2022-11-07 15:00:59

One thing is abundantly clear. I need to buy more dog and cat food. I don't want the babies to go hungry.

This is so fucked up. I have no words. These bastards reap what they have sown. Unfortunately we are all in for the ride.

Buckle up folks. It is going to get bumpy. Seat belts fastened sign is on.
Vernonb 2k posts, incept 2009-06-03
2022-11-08 13:56:57

I just hope the Ruskies nuke South Africa to make sure they get all of his genetic line. Fuck Musk and hus damned tax farms.

The Russians are smart. I see polonium in Musk's future.

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"Mass intelligence does not mean intelligent masses."
Mjeff87 1k posts, incept 2021-11-22
2022-11-08 14:06:13

@Susanlauren, I make a habit of grabbing a couple cans of wet food every time I/we stop at the store for whatever. Little by little it adds up over time. All of our fur balls have dry self feeders, but we do split a can or two for them most every night for "dinner". They get cranky if they miss a meal, heh.

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Si Vis Pacem, para Bellum

Aabikrman 39 posts, incept 2010-06-18
2022-11-09 19:40:00

The so-called "Russian sanctions" including the non-judicial seizure of Russian owned assets are acts of war and Russia's response has been extremely measured and with a huge dose of incredible self-restraint. But on the other hand, "when your opponent is busy making mistakes, why interrupt them ?" (Napoleon Bonaparte) Putin has openly mentioned more than once that the sanctions would harm the west more so than Russia and knowing this, why would one bother "retaliating" ?

I also believe that we are also witnessing the early stages of the pivot AWAY from the US dollar as more and more countries are lining up to join the BRICS for the purpose of creating a global banking alternative separate from the SWIFT system/dollar denominated exchange. Saudi Arabia apparently being one of the latest countries to publicly announce a desire to join the BRICS. Any why not? The west has clearly demonstrated no respect for law and due process so why would anyone with half a brain trust their resources in the western banking system knowing those resources could/would be seized at will? That being true, I would put Saudi Arabia on the list of countries likely to experience internal strife and discord in their near future, surprise, surprise...

Of course this pivot away from the dollar is rendered moot should the maniacs in charge resort to nuclear weapons. In their possible desperation to keep their crimes hidden, I would never bet against it !

If I had read what is now reality in the current world situation in a novel, I wouldn't bother finishing the book because it's simply not believable. Yet, it's reality !
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