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Joedirt11 44 posts, incept 2022-07-08
2022-09-22 13:58:28

@TG, I believe it and to some degree what you are saying is true. To say I did nothing is not 100% accurate. I went all of 2020 and 2021 without getting the coof, and most of 2022. So did my wife. No jabs here. No hiding in my house. Had a full blown wedding in October 2020. We said, whoever comes...comes. We were going through with it. There were probably 60-75 friends and family and 10-15 staff from the restaurant and not one case of the coof was contracted. My wife and I continued to live our lives as we always had. We went to work, supported the local restaurants and shops. It was easy to do here in FL.

What I did do is tell my friends & family that contracted the coof to stay clear of the hospitals. I had a stash of the demonized potential therapeutics I handed out. So I tried to help the few I could. A very good friend of ours died this year from his second bout of the coof after getting vaxed. I am sure he would still be here if he would have contacted me or my wife the first time he got it.

There are a lot of things we are accomplice to. The world is swirling the bowl and literally nobody does anything. Bad people go free and good people go to jail. People burned cities and no one did a damn thing. People were lured into the capitol to take selfies and they are now being hunted down and harassed or jailed. Stealing is now completely normal and not a crime in some places.

But yep, Guilty as charged. I would not do well being locked in a cage and I will be able to better help friends and family from where I'm at.
Tickerguy 188k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2022-09-22 14:28:06

Let's just be simple about it:

If you truly believe the goal is to slaughter the population then there is only one thing you can do that makes ethical and moral sense: Identify every single person you can who is allegedly responsible and kill as many of them as possible, accepting that you will either be killed or caught (and go to prison.)


Because if you don't then you're an accessory.

Talk is very, very cheap and I for one am tired of it. It is PRECISELY that cheapness that has led me to contemplate shutting this place down MANY TIMES, because I hear the same shit constantly, yet nobody gets off their ass IN ANY RESPECT.

Now its one thing if you believe someone is simply trying to steal your money or productivity. That can be countered with non-violent means, for example by withdrawing consent and going "Galt." Which I've done, by the way and so have many others. Indeed there seems to be a lot of that of late, doesn't there?

But an allegation that murder is the expressed intent and outcome is a whole different thing. There are no non-violent solutions to murder. Locking someone up in prison is violent; they certainly don't go willingly, do they? So is shooting the person trying to rape your wife at 3:00 in the morning in the face. But in both of those cases we consider this perfectly justified, whether the government does it our behalf after trial or whether we do it when the thug shows up at 0300 and displays his intent.


Look, I get it. Talk is cheap and bitching is even cheaper. But you solve nothing and indeed feed on both your own and other's misery.

So if you want to run "they're trying to kill us" thing and you actually mean it then act accordingly.

If your bitching is inauthentic then either run that crap somewhere else and keep your yap shut here or get the fuck out, because unlike so many places on the Internet I'm not selling clicks en-masse and I'm VERY adverse to people trying to exploit both their own misery and project it onto others.

I shouldn't have to post this.

I won't post it again.

I think you can figure out the rest.

NASA faked out a computer instead of running the test.
Then tried to launch and aborted instead of going "BOOOM!"
Did they abort the JABS after faking THOSE tests?
Abelardlindsey 1k posts, incept 2021-03-26
2022-09-22 15:52:26

I saw that Vox Day just responded to this on his blog. One reason not discussed either here or by Vox as to why this is not some conspiracy is that, at the end of the day, the covid-19 shots are a piss-poor way to commit mass genocide.

From what I'm seeing, the death rate of the covid-19 shots over the next 10 years or so would be, in the worst case scenario, 10-15% of those that got them. Yes, that's a horrifically high number of people to die. But it is certainly not a "depopulation" level event.

I think Karl is right on the money here (pun intended) that this is nothing more than plain, old-fashioned greed coupled with a very high level of incompetence and wishful thinking.

It's all in the mitochondria.

"It's the future,'re not."
Emupaul 135 posts, incept 2013-04-17
2022-09-22 16:45:24

The lockdowns helped kill my Mom. She was in a nursing home and they locked down. No visiting at all. Medical? They had a visiting doctor.

They called in June and asked if they could up her sedatives because she's getting combative. I said take her to the doctor, she did this a couple of years ago and it was a urinary tract infection. Get her the antibiotics. So fast forward to the end of August and she goes to the hospital and then was helicoptered to the Big City Hospital. She died three days later. Of what? "Aspiration Pneumonia" and wait for it! "Urinary Tract Infection".

It may have been her time no matter what. I think it was more "we so skeered of getting chink flu ain't no one coming back if they leave".

A month for her to turn 89. Yeah, she was old and not exactly friendly when I visited but I blame that on her having had several small strokes in her speech center. (You know how Granpa sounds when he takes his dentures out? That's my Mom for a few days after "a spell" and she didn't have dentures.)

After she died, two weeks later, after almost two years, the nursing home ended the lock down routine.

Kind of late for trips to the doctor... Or visiting.

So, yeah, maybe the whole covid thing isn't a de-population thing and it's just about the money.

It sure is pointing out a lot of chicken shit assholes, that's for sure.

Ok, it's been two years and yeah, tossing Molotovs at the nursing home isn't going to help. Nor will sitting in the parking lot and plinking the admin folks like squirrels when they get off of work. But hey, happy could have been 91 b'day Mom.

I try to stuff it all down. And keep it there. The anger and sadness bubbles up once in a while. Sure makes for some weird dreams.
Heartlander 2k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2022-09-22 16:46:20

The ONLY other site besides this one that I read EVERY single day is Vox Popoli. Vox quoted Karl's piece today and then added this:

Karl is a genuine American hero. His courageous work on the vaccine front saved many lives and families. He always tells the truth as best he sees it, and I regard his blog as one of the very few must-reads on the Internet.

He is a smart, observant, and rational man. But he is not, to the best of my knowledge, a religious man.

Which, I think, makes it very difficult, if not impossible, for him to connect the events that he analyzes so well today with the pattern of historic manifestations of the same evil that is ascendant today. Because the wicked elite are not rational, their motivations are difficult to comprehend, and their inspirations are inhuman.

But the one thing we do know about them is that they celebrate death and seek to create more of it everywhere they go and in everything they do.

So, yes, with all due respect, they are trying to kill you.

My thoughts exactly, including the huge props to Karl.

I note that some of the people I have come to respect the most over the last 2 years -- Dr. Robert Malone, Dr. Mike Yeadon, Dr. Mark McDonald, James Howard Kunstler, and James Delingpole -- who formerly were very hard-headed, secular, not-at-all-religious individuals -- have come to believe that there is such a thing as satanic evil, that it is behind much of what's going on, and even that those running the psy-ops on the whole global population may be demonically possessed.
Heartlander 2k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2022-09-22 16:46:40

I think Karl is right on the money here (pun intended) that this is nothing more than plain, old-fashioned greed coupled with a very high level of incompetence and wishful thinking.

And HUBRIS. The incredible fucking HUBRIS, which blinds people and switches off the rational part of their brain.

But also, consider the BOREDOM of the wealthiest people, who have run out of things to buy with their money. How many $100-million homes and yachts can you get any use out of anyway?

So the fabulously wealthy, fabulously bored turn to... pushing beyond ever further-out boundaries in the areas of sex and power. This is why many if not most of these people are pedophiles, and even snuffers and cannibals. (Addicts need ever-edgier thrills.) And this is why creeps like Bill Gates get the idea that his role is to run the whole fucking world, like some global dictator, imposing his personal neuroses and obsessions on all the rest of us.
Edwardteach 337 posts, incept 2021-05-01
2022-09-22 16:46:54

10-15% might not be a "depopulation" level event, but it's definitely a shit is gonna get broke and nobody is going to be around to fix it event. In other words, a civilization wrecker.

Know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with until you understand who's in ruttin command here.
Abelardlindsey 1k posts, incept 2021-03-26
2022-09-22 17:11:27

10-15% might not be a "depopulation" level event, but it's definitely a shit is gonna get broke and nobody is going to be around to fix it event. In other words, a civilization wrecker.

I'm saying this is the worst case scenario. I expect it to be lower than this.

In any case, the problem I have with any kind of conspiracy on this level is that they require a level of institutional competence to execute effectively that I just have not seen in any context in my entire adult life. Large scale organizations are bureaucracies, and it is the nature of bureaucracy to be dysfunctional.

It's all in the mitochondria.

"It's the future,'re not."
Heartlander 2k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2022-09-22 17:11:48


My heart goes out to you. One of my dearest lifelong friends, who despite her relatively young age was in a nursing home due to M.S., was killed by isolation and then, when she got Covid, denial of early treatment. She died in a hospital, ALONE. Thank God her one brother was allowed to spend a few minutes with her a few minutes before she died. She was unconscious by then. I cling to what longtime hospice workers say, that those in comas and such DO hear us, even if they can't respond.

I consider my friend to have been a murder victim of Anthony Fauci. Karl will perhaps despise me for not going to Washington with a gun in my hand to deal out justice, but I just don't see how that would help. Furthermore, I'm not willing to risk my own immortal soul. The whole problem with Hell is that it is forever, and it is absolutely irreversible.

Abelardlindsey 1k posts, incept 2021-03-26
2022-09-22 18:42:06

Once again, the sub-prime mortgage bubble is instructive to me.

We had these banks such as WaMu (Washington Mutual) issuing these sub-prime mortgages (like 120% no doc mortgages) then selling them to Freddie and Fannie, who in turn converted them into securities, then sold them to investors. The investors bought because all of this garbage was rated "AAA" by the ratings agencies. What floored me was when WaMU and other banks went under because the actually invested in all of this toxic garbage. Since they created this stuff in the first place, I could not understand for the life of me why they bought into it.

I think the dynamic was as follows:

One division issued the mortgages. I know in the case of WaMu, they had a special mortgage division devoted exclusively to sub-prime. These mortgages, once issue, then go to another division that packages them up for sale to Freddie and Fannie. Then there is ANOTHER division that looks for securities for the bank to invest in (park its money). They see these "AAA" rated securities and think they are a wonderful deal. So they buy them. The thing is that the people in this division likely have no day to day contact with the division that issued them. Its the classic left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing situation.

Then you throw in a bit of ideology and wishful thinking that this is all wonderful because we're helping poor disadvantaged people to become home-owners in order to create a "ownership society" (Dubya's words). I really think this is how it all played out.

I think its really not much different for the covid-19 debacle.

It's all in the mitochondria.

"It's the future,'re not."
Emupaul 135 posts, incept 2013-04-17
2022-09-22 18:42:36

Another thought or two...

Cattle are supposedly evil methane producers. "We need to get rid of cattle for Climate *.shit".

How about the vast herds of zebra and gazelles and such in Africa? Africa is pretty big, those critters probably fart more that all the cattle in America.

Oh, wait. No one raises and eats zebra and gazelles and elephants. So they are cool because Mother Nature.

Hey. If you really want to de-populate the planet, seal off Africa. The entire continent. Stop sending them food and money. They can do that Wakanda thing.

I have a lot of cats because I feed them. Just saying.

10-15% might not be a "depopulation" level event, but it's definitely a shit is gonna get broke and nobody is going to be around to fix it event. In other words, a civilization wrecker.

Add on the reports of women miscarrying and young folks dropping dead "suddenly". IF the folks aren't alive to make children, yeah.

As for the whole "we need to reduce the population to half a billion to save the planet", from almost eight billion, uh, who's gonna do much more than simple farming?

Henry VIII lived great as the king of England. Now a days, we call that "camping in an RV".
Shadowmask 4k posts, incept 2021-05-24
2022-09-22 18:43:20

There's a difference between murder and killing, @heartlander. God is just fine with killing.
Thegreatunwashed 228 posts, incept 2021-09-13
2022-09-22 18:43:25

I do not think it is plausible that they wished to kill billions of people over a short time period and I do not think the short time side effects like myocarditis is something they desired because it has led to widespread loss of confidence in the jabs. I DO think there are two tinny things there are plausible. I think they would be happy to have accelerated the deaths of the elderly and the elderly were the recipients of nearly all the early batches. Second, the spike seems to particularly target reproductive organs and is impeding childbirth and may have long lasting effects birth rates and ultimately reducing global population.
If you are a climate change fanatic or a billionaire narcissist who expects radical life extension and future where AI and robots replace the need for most worker bees, tampering worldwide with human reproduction would be your dream.

I will have NO survivor's guilt, except a bit of shame for all my Schadenfreude.
Budxr7 123 posts, incept 2009-07-08
2022-09-22 18:43:59

These people arent trying to kill us. Theyre just depraved reckless idiots bequeathed too much power. If they really wanted to put a dent in the population they could have come up with something way more deadly than sars-cov2. And then they couldve avoided the entire logistical challenge of vaccination. Again, theyre just idiots.

Neither a borrower nor a lender be;
For loan oft loses both itself and friend,
And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry.
Heartlander 2k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2022-09-22 18:44:06

and others...
Dr. Mark McDonald, a child and adolescent psychiatrist who was one of the very first to speak out against Covid craziness, particularly about what adults' insanity was doing to kids, was recently interviewed on the Patrick Coffin Show. Among other things, McDonald talked about how losing touching with the real, concrete, world around you -- i.e., by screen addiction -- makes you easy prey for all manner of manipulation.

THAT is why the big psy-ops work so well these days. You only need a very few really evil, murderous depopulation freaks at the top, with a lot of greedheads and ideologues in between, then at the bottom a bunch of media-manipulated masses addicted to porn, video games, Tik-Tok, stupid shows, whatever, and voila! You can actually manipulate millions of people -- whether by Covaxxx, climate change, or devil knows what other fear-porn scams -- into participating in their own mass suicide.

Heartlander 2k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2022-09-22 18:44:30

Many people really look emotionally, psychologically and physically run down.

After the beat-down of the last 2-1/2 years, that's not surprising. Heck, I've been known all my life as a cheerful person... but this year I noticed that even I simply don't SMILE as much as I used to. As if those muscles in my face have started to atrophy. And I'm not even a mask-wearer! So, lately, I just make a constant, conscious effort to smile, laugh and be cheerful. I really believe you owe it to yourself and others to at least TRY to be cheerful. At some stages in life, that will require effort. I think one should make that effort.
Joedirt11 44 posts, incept 2022-07-08
2022-09-22 20:23:30

Is eliminating cash bail for 2nd degree murder in IL meant to make the people in IL safer? Are they (the DA and people in charge) willingly and knowingly aware of the fact that innocent people will die because of it? Of course they are. That is a willing intent to slaughter the people of IL. Is anyone here going to get off their ass and eliminate the threat?

It's also another example of a government doing something that is detrimental to it's own survival.

Heartlander 2k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2022-09-22 20:23:40

Up until recently, I thought the "Great Reset" was pretty much BS and tinfoil

Klaus Schwab's book titled "Covid-19: The Great Reset" was published in July 2020.

TIME magazine did a cover story on "The Great Reset" for their November 2, 2020, issue.
(Right before the election -- yet another instance of these psychopaths rubbing our fucking noses in it, as they so delight in doing.)

It's a conspiracy all right -- an open one. A conspiracy just means people working together; it doesn't have to be secret. The Great Reset fuckers actually use the media they own and control to BRAG about their conspiracy openly; that's part of the sick thrill they get from all this. ("Look at us! Nobody can touch us, that's how powerful we are! In fact, we can even TELL the vermin what we're doing and they'll go along with it! In fact, we're so awesome, they'll even sign up and get on board with it!! They will fucking volunteer for their own extermination. Are WE infinitely powerful, or what?!?!")
Joedirt11 44 posts, incept 2022-07-08
2022-09-22 20:23:53

If the shots really cause infertility in men and women? That is also a slaughter of the people being done on purpose. Is it not? Can I prove who knew what and when they knew it? No.

Is there a reason they want to delay releasing early trial data for 75 years? Because we'll all be dead by then? Smells criminal to me. But yea, maybe it's just about the money?
Workerbee 5k posts, incept 2009-03-18
2022-09-22 20:24:04

I've heard of Vox Popoli here before, and I did the Google but the website you peak of @Heartlander escapes me.
Can you share it?

'Keep pushing fuckers, you'll find the trip wire eventually'
~ Quik49

'This is the part where you find out who you are'
Tickerguy 188k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2022-09-22 20:25:31

Vox could have emailed me and asked about such a thing as he opined in relationship to what I believe, but he didn't.

You see, it fits with a "gotta be this way" pronouncement to not do so.

It also allows one to hide behind "trust the plan" (of God, if you prefer) which, from my point of view, isn't much different than those who buy into the "Q" crap.

'Nuff said.

NASA faked out a computer instead of running the test.
Then tried to launch and aborted instead of going "BOOOM!"
Did they abort the JABS after faking THOSE tests?
Heartlander 2k posts, incept 2021-02-25
2022-09-22 21:23:05

@Workerbee is the site.

Karl, I'm sorry if Vox pissed you off. He quotes you and links you quite often, so I know he's a fan.

Great minds do not always think alike. I appreciate you and Vox both, for different reasons, as I also appreciate Ann Barnhardt for what she does, and The Saker for what he does, even though I vehemently disagree with him sometimes.

I am immensely grateful for the great job you do, Karl. I truly appreciate your extensive research, analytical rigor, thoroughness, articulateness, and ability to summarize information in a clear, powerful way. One of the things I immensely respect is that you always acknowledge the limits of what can be said with certainty at any given time, and you refuse to go beyond what the data show, while nevertheless sharing your own well-informed speculations.

Finally, seeing the difference in the comment threads here versus other sites, I'm in awe of how you seem to have the best comment section anywhere. I don't have the faintest idea how you pull it off, but somehow you've optimized input that variously shows intelligence, heart, respect, orneriness, generosity with info and advice, and a wide spectrum of opinions, styles, and backgrounds. I find real and valuable engagement here at a level that I have not experienced at any other site. Kudos to you, and great thanks.
Georgi 56 posts, incept 2021-07-07
2022-09-22 21:23:35

My Mom has chickens. A chicken dies whenever there is a 'fresh chicken soup' on the menu. She doesn't want to kill all of her chickens, nor she is after the chicken fodder (money).

The 0.01% have too much power. And they are afraid to lose it: too many uncontrollable people around, too much freedom of speech (internet 20Y ago), unpredictable technological advances.
Being afraid of the future, they want to cement their privileged positions. How do they do it?

* Make the population weak and dependable on their easy to produce pharma products: mRNA that makes you ill so you need the next fix.

* Simulate a war and control its course: Putin and Zelenski are puppets on strings, I think. A couple of days, maybe a week, ago both of them IN THE VERY SAME DAY, had minor car accidents. They will direct the war as directed and are promised a seat among the 0.01% or maybe are already in the club. The war is a mean to an end, and this end is control on the population: both in Russia and the west.

* Legalize drugs, poison the food with glyphosate and what not, brake down strong resilient social structures like the family

* Energy and food shortages - once we depend on them for our daily ration we are screwed. That's the 'final solution'

Bottom line is, they want to strengthen and cement their power, and this means they want to control the rest, the 99.99%. It's not about money, it's about this control. And if many die in the process - as Karl says, they do not care.
And yes, the minions that serve the 0.01%, and help them achieve that agenda really do it for the money. Therefore it seems it's all about the money, but I think it is not.

What to do: exactly the opposite of the points above, on our personal/local scale.

you are the best community out there!
Msheff 58 posts, incept 2018-05-03
2022-09-22 21:24:45

They are not a monolithic entity but made up of many levels of people. Aren't drug pushers warned not to sample the product? In intelligence, there are spies and their handlers. The handlers don't spy and they don't tell their spies everything about the bigger picture, only what they need to know. Doctors who pushed the new therapy may not know of Mr Microsoft's views on population numbers and may not even be aware of his role in the therapy they're pushing. They probably don't share the view on crises subscribed to by R Emmanuel. Might even not know that anyone is exploiting or managing the crisis, or that various crises are managed and PR'd by connected groups. Why would they need to be told? Doctors and frontline nurses don't do national PR for the crisis. That's done by others far above their pay grade.

They are not a monolithic entity.
Shadowmask 4k posts, incept 2021-05-24
2022-09-22 21:25:01

Vox Day's website:

Here's my unsolicited opinion.

Vox is a smart guy. However, as a game designer and fiction writer, he likes making Real Life complicated and "plotty" before looking for an explanation. Most of the time, the simple explanation better explains things than whatever elegant and elaborate idea he had. It would make an interesting book though.
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