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 No, They're Not Trying To Kill You
Ingar 386 posts, incept 2017-02-14
2022-09-21 12:24:18

One of my ancestors lived to be 103 and died in the 1860's. Imagine a life deprived of Doritos, Coca-Cola, football and basketball worship, and a drug for everything that ails you. I avoid all of the previous except for blood pressure meds, and that is improving as I discard more lard. Think how much money the average person could save by foregoing the above. The medical/pharmaceutical industries, sports/entertainment, and junk food industries would collapse and we would all be the better for it. That might sting the elites a bit.

The elites make a lot of money from John Q. Public by channeling him into wants and needs that are created through advertising. He is not useful if he is dead.
Mannfm11 8k posts, incept 2009-02-28
2022-09-21 12:24:22

@Whitehat: This crap started in the 1930's, was sold in the schools of economics and through the political science schools. The USA fell under the spell of the war party.

Money that depends on compound interest to sustain itself, needs compound spending. What creates the recessions and the booms has to be fought. When credit is tightened, the effects have to be fought and the political criminals have to pretend to save us.

The boomers didn't create Medicare. The proclaimed greatest generation did. An even earlier generation created Social Security, a likely good idea that was misappropriated. Who the hell invents a program to fund future retirement that requires the money be spent by the very operation that runs it? If a pension fund manager put their own IOU's in the fund they would be in jail the day following the discovery.

Looking at everything, I think they are trying to kill people. Billionaires and multimillionaires don't fix cars. They get another one. The green energy, fake climate scam is all aligned to kill millions and maybe billions. In the broad spectrum, how else can it be done. Allowed to progress very long, it will be irreversable. The economic expense coupled with the extreme effort needed to dig out would last decades. The very aim of these people is to destroy the various hydrocarbon industries.

You can call anything greed. The problem is us peons are easy to bribe. Send us a $1000 check, we bow down, at least many of us. The missing message is they don't pay the $1000, we do. It comes out of our ass, like the other $50K or so only buys 95% as much, realizing a net loss of $1500. It never occurs to people the government doesn't have any money.

What everyone seems to be missing is the elite already have all. They own the politicians. Almost no one dared push back on Fauci, in Congress. Are they compromised or just owned? There is a character, a communist named Bill Brwder, from a rich family, whose claim to fame is he used his communist contacts to loot post USSR Russia. Congress blows him. Was Magnisky a lawyer or a made up character? Soros funds communists and has NGO's funded by Congress. What the fuck is going on?

Then there is the question of election rigging. There were too many ballots in 2020 for there to have not been ballot stuffing of some kind. It has just been revealed well over 100,000 machine made ballots were turned over on a separate disk in Maricopa county, missing time stamps. They found as many as 400,000 defective ballots, on the wrong paper and other problems. But that is just the tip of the iceberg. We like to think ballot stuffing is just the Democrats, but what about the primaries? Can we actually elect people that will change this crap or will they be a few in the DC wilderness?

What we are getting is what our handlers want us to get. We are like fish, guessing what water is. The Federal government is such size that capturing it for a few billion every year is a bargain. The public funds soakers in health and education have dug in massive lobbies and unions. Only going broke might stop these people.

If killing a couple of million people is just greed, so be it. We don't ever hear the end of 6 million Jews, yet you don't even flinch at maybe 1/3 of that? Most were going to die, in the first place, enough to create the terror for the likely unaffected to take the poison. How many are really going to die? If not die now, die at age 60 instead of 75 or 50 or 40? How many trillions are going to be fed into the medical money shredder, to avoid this fate? Real deaths should be analyzed in lost years of life, as death in general is the great finality of all?

The insane have a plan called transhumanism. Don't think they are not trying to plan without many of us. Human computers. Human motors, plants run by AI and robots. Travel too expensive for common people, who can live in cubbyholes and ride bikes or mass transport. These jabs are just the first of many in what can only be called a mass biological experiment. How can things be totally 180 degrees fucked up, if not planned? Worldwide, maybe they killed 30 million, sterilized 100 million or more. Why didn't Pfizer CEO take the jab himself, yet many of our officials did? Did they have to drink the Kool Aid, or did many just fake it? Conspiracies depend on useful idiots.

The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable.---John Kenneth Galbraith
Patrick58 232 posts, incept 2019-08-08
2022-09-21 12:25:15

The mandates are what "did me in". Participation was supposed to be strictly voluntary. This was not the case. The arguement that "I'm just following orders", or "I did it for money", doesn't change the facts. Arguement that this virus bullshit only jazzed the medically comprimized, and geriatrics (Diamond Princess), was not permitted. If you spoke out against the vaccines, you were silenced. Whether the intent was just money, doesn't matter to me. The tyranny is here.
Workerbee23 138 posts, incept 2021-09-15
2022-09-21 12:25:15

@Twiggler - I am highly allergic to the critters so I am careful. These were cats left after a human died and the extended family (or whoever) couldn't round them up. The older two are used to human contact and one of the younger ones has come around.
The full plan is to get them comfortable enough to get them to the vet to be fixed and vaxxed for rabies.
If they begin to exhibit any odd behaviors prior to me accomplishing my goals, the local animal control will be getting a call.

Billhrny 186 posts, incept 2019-06-19
2022-09-21 12:25:15

@TIckerguy- Besides money and power I would add control to that list. These people are ultra control freaks, they get off on it.

In addition, I agree with others here that the trans push is about money, and I have an idea who is holding away behind it. Does anyone know where the young people are starting to go for their hormones and other gender affirming counseling if a location is near ? Yep, you may have guessed it, Planned Parenthood. My guess is they see their abortion biz declining and are looking for their new cash cow.
Joancrawford 358 posts, incept 2013-10-14
2022-09-21 12:25:15

I'll throw in my 2 cents, which is exactly what it's worth. Karl and I are the same age. Here's my confession: I hadn't woken up to the fact that the world is an extremely harsh, uncaring place until I was almost 40. Yeah, I believed all the lies. My country, love it or leave it, etc. I'll blame it on a very sheltered, somewhat privileged background-not Martha's Vineyard rich, or Park Avenue-by a very long stretch. Just an upper middle class life and access to the finer things in life. My looks didn't hurt matters either. Men, rich or poor, will fall all over themselves trying to gain your favors. I'll admit, it's been nice.

Intellectually, I'd agree that it's the Benjamins that run everything. Pop a pill and it'll all be okay. I was on antidepressants and Xanax up until about 15 years ago, so I sure as hell did my part to fund Big Pharma. Today, the only drugs I take are aspirin when I rarely have a headache and the nightly cocktail and caffeine fix in the morning. Don't miss the other stuff at all. Talk about pissing money away. And all those pharmaceuticals end up in our water supply by the way.

Regarding AIDS, I've known many attractive gay men who insisted on having multi-partner sex orgies. One in particular was HIV positive, but used protection. I asked him if he felt obliged to tell partners that he was positive. He stated that the mere fact that they were engaging in multi-partner sex meant that it was a given that they'd eventually hook up with someone who was HIV positive. Yep, he actually said that.

I shake my head at such things, but I suppose if you look at the male sex drive, if the situation was all hetero, that you had a virtually unlimited amount of lovely ladies who would romp around with you so long as you had an ample supply of rubbers, it would not be all that different in the straight world. Therefore, I'm hesitant to blame it all on the gay lifestyle. There's something to be said for being sexually monogamous with one person. Being free of VD and other nasty diseases is only one of the benefits.

As far as the "rich" are concerned, we are simply there to wait on them. You are of no more use to them than the cashier at McDonalds. Give me my food and correct change and STFU. No more, no less. Plus, it's fun to be able to grind someone under your heel every now and again I suppose.

Don't f*ck with me fellas! This ain't my first time at the rodeo.

America-it was a good run while it lasted. RIP!
Oldpool 1k posts, incept 2010-06-23
2022-09-21 12:25:15

They are fleecing you, because absolute power corrupts absolutely!

End of message.

Liberty, Comrade!
Wayiwalk 510 posts, incept 2016-11-09
2022-09-21 12:25:15

When it dawned on me how little concern they had for the recipients of the vaccine when it became apparent of the harms that it was causing, that was when I realized exactly what Karl is stating in this article and that is...they really don't give a fuck about us.

Sometimes we are the product...other times we are the source for their satisfying their greed.

Under a different context, the Founders realized this about human nature and did something about it.

The Lockdowns Will Continue Until the Morale Improves!

I keep thinking, "it can't get any worse" and then it does!
Tickerguy 188k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2022-09-21 12:26:01

@Scottj175 - I can obviously run a punch press much faster if I don't have to close all four 'contact' switches away from the machine before it will cycle.

This means one without those safeties produces more.

It also will occasionally chop off a finger or hand if you aren't careful, and if you ARE careful then your output is probably about the same as the one with the switches......

Thus...... yeah.

Table and miter (never mind radial arm) saws are particularly intolerant of inattention. Interestingly enough they now make ones with extraordinarily-fast magnetic brakes that on contact with flesh will actually stop the blade before it can cut off whatever got in there. They're not cheap....

NASA faked out a computer instead of running the test.
Then tried to launch and aborted instead of going "BOOOM!"
Did they abort the JABS after faking THOSE tests?

Starrynight 174 posts, incept 2021-11-26
2022-09-21 12:29:33

@Stoic - you made really good points. I've gotten to the point where I can hardly stand to go downtown in my city any more. Many people really look emotionally, psychologically and physically run down. Very many people, even old ladies, have visible tattoos. I saw a teenager recently who had 666 tattooed on his neck. I saw another kid wearing a sweatshirt with a pentagram. It is really depressing to be out and seeing this kind of stuff in public.
Jdough 219 posts, incept 2012-05-04
2022-09-21 12:32:00

Tickerguy said:
How about something more-simple? Not all that long ago the diverter door motors in my truck puked. The A/C and heat, while they still worked, were basically useless since the HVAC system knew those motors were faulted and would not do what the system wanted, and thus it limited things

I'm guessing you still have your suburban because I've had problems with the blend door actuators on my Silverado too. It would switch from cold to hot on its own and I'd have to turn the truck off and on to get it back. I had to do that a lot here in Texas smiley. Luckily it was the lower one not the one up further in the dash. Took all of about 15 minutes to replace the unit but it's something my "betters" would pay a shop hundreds for. Who cares how much it costs when graft has you swimming in cash all the time?

America is a third world country with iPhones - Anonymous
Olddad 189 posts, incept 2019-08-22
2022-09-21 13:25:40

Interesting discussion that boils down to, they can't live with us and they can't kill us. We are the creation of their own making and they now realize we are a threat to them. But what to do, what to do?
Jw. 565 posts, incept 2019-10-10
2022-09-21 13:26:16

KD, have you read this?

21 U.S. Code 360bbb3 - Authorization for medical products for use in emergencies

Read it a few months ago and it is VERY interesting. The EUA bar for approving "unapproved use of an unapproved product" is very low, essentially the "unapproved product" can't kill more people than the disease the EUA is issued for. I believe this is why there was such a push to not cure people and classify anything and everything as COVID and a COVID death regardless of the true cause of death. It also helped that VAERS was suppressed, since that was the column that is required to be lower than the disease death column.

There is also a section at the end where the wording seems to indicate that if you take a product related the EUA you are opted into future restrictions, even confinement. It's very lawyer speaky.

The spending must continue, until it can't.
Tphedlund 35 posts, incept 2017-01-27
2022-09-21 13:26:24

Up until recently, I thought the "Great Reset" was pretty much BS and tinfoil. I have changed my mind on that. With so many completely illogical events taking place world wide in the last few years and the pace of those events accelerating, the Great Reset is the only way the dots can be connected to make any sense of what is happening in the world. The quest for quick money alone cannot explain 10% of what is happening. Alex Jones, who I thought was Mr. Reynolds himself, has been so far in front of this issue that he is looking and sounding like a prophet right around now. Fortunately many people are waking up and a lot of very smart people are concluding that we are living through the Great Reset now. But most people will never change their world view no matter what they see, until it is too late.

Is it still prohibited tin even if its true? 40 minutes from the TPUSA Defeat the Great Reset Event from last weekend:
Shadowmask 4k posts, incept 2021-05-24
2022-09-21 13:26:59

They consider basic vehicle maintenance like oil changes beneath them. Actual work is for the "help".
Starrynight 174 posts, incept 2021-11-26
2022-09-21 13:43:18

@Olddad - what to do? Reduce our numbers, weaken us with jabs and chronic health issues, impoverish us, screw with our minds via propaganda, make us unemployed, get us into debt -- all this will make the population more controllable. Maybe.
Starrynight 174 posts, incept 2021-11-26
2022-09-21 13:43:23

@Tphedlund - I think you're on to something here. The profit motive, as @Tickerguy says, explains a lot. It is like occam's razor. But I think the logic has shifted for many in the governing class. It's not just about money. They want control. What we're seeing in the EU is not explainable with the logic of governance and policy-making that we are used to. The rulers of Germany and other countries are making decisions that appear to basically be suicidal for their countries. It is like a demolition. It is not clear to me how their desire for money can explain this. In fact, their acts may be undermining the very system that produces their wealth. I've heard it said that Germany is on a path to "de-industrialization". Switzerland and other countries are telling their citizens there may be blackouts this winter. These are the most developed, richest countries in the world. Why are they making these choices that will reduce their GDP and potentially cause social disorder? I am not sure their desire for money can explain it. But they have been totally explicit about their goals with the Great Reset and the 2030 sustainability agenda. The actions of the EU leaders is completely consistent with their stated 2030 goals. What would it take for Europe to get to the eco-utopia they have planned for 2030? It would take massive economic restructuring involving less energy use, less travel, more government control, less economic activity in general...
Quantum 580 posts, incept 2021-05-18
2022-09-21 13:43:32

Whether it's deliberate or not, they may get there. If the current excess mortality trends don't stop or reverse, there may emerge critical gaps in training / knowledge to keep the lights on.

Too many casualties, too fast, and things break down. Even without all of the other challenges.

Our God, will you not judge them? For we have no power to face this great multitude that is attacking us. We do not know what to do, but our eyes are on you. --2 Chron. 20:12
Austin 223 posts, incept 2008-10-22
2022-09-21 13:43:37

''This is part of a depopulation move to kill you all. ''

Indeed , Remember we live now in the context of the west pushing hard for war with Russia.

Victor Davis Hanson has reminded us that we are dealing with ideologues , Stalin Pol Pot , Mao , communists who cared nothing if they created disaster and were likely to just double down. We are seeing this now with the Ukraine.

Money ? they have too much already. Power ? Gotta ''save the planet'' U know
Kfell 255 posts, incept 2014-09-09
2022-09-21 15:09:46

I typically hit the local diner when in the office. I called today and they were closed for a kitchen repair so I went to the eatery down the block. I walk in and see what appears to be a man in pony tails, a 5 o clock shadow, nose and ear rings and a mini skirt. I look around. A couple (at least that is what it appears), the girl had short short yellow with pink highlight hair and the man-girl had neon blue with pink highlights sitting at one of the tables. I did a 180 and walked right the fuck out. I'm done with Americans. We need an asteroid.
Olddad 189 posts, incept 2019-08-22
2022-09-21 15:09:51

@starrynight I would counter all the examples of what they can do to us you laid out will only work if we consent to those methods. Will millions consent, yes, of course. But history shows it only takes a small (less than 5 percent) minority of those committed to X to bring about X. They win only if we allow them to. We, at least me and mine, can survive without them. I do not believe the opposite to be true and I think they know it. They are afraid of what comes next, and they should be.
Jacksparrow 177 posts, incept 2016-04-15
2022-09-21 15:09:56

Money may be the motivator, but given the huge above trend death pattern that the CDC and FDA ignores sure makes it seem like they want the outcome they are getting, or are afraid that if they stop this nonsense now the public will demand answers so they continue. In the end the death count will be way too large to ignore and eventually the public or those remaining will want heads on poles.
Chilzany 125 posts, incept 2021-09-16
2022-09-21 15:10:31

Long long ago and far away, as a 20 yo, I had a technical writing (English) prof, who ventured off topic to class subject matter he was teaching. I hung out with a small group of not-long-out- of Nam upper 20s Vets as part of their study group for a couple different very tough science classes during my undergrad years, but they were also in the tech writing class with me that year.

When the professor started drawing and explaining Malthusian charts on the board, those commmon sense guys did not swallow the guff uncritically, rather they shot the prof full of verbal logic holes in front of the rest of the class, several days in a row. I was proud to associate with them, they helped develop my critical thinking abilities, along with embarassing the prof in front of us younger students.
Daedwards 102 posts, incept 2010-06-10
2022-09-21 15:10:37

@Starrynight - re. the Germany thing - this morning I read an interesting article here:

I may have to dive down that rabbit hole a bit...

Half-stupid is still stupid. (TickerGuy)
Austin 223 posts, incept 2008-10-22
2022-09-21 15:10:48

anyway, who the F cares about people ? or fixing things

Robots and AI will take care of things. And it will be easy living in pod city robot world eating bugs.

And we could be Transhuman! with our brains plugged into happy virtual world. living forever !

Do you think OL' Klause ever watched Star Trek ?
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