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2022-09-14 07:00 by Karl Denninger
in Personal Health , 885 references Ignore this thread
You Can't Cite Studies....
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.... if they find the "wrong" things.

The hospitalization rate was reduced by 100% in regular users compared to both irregular users and non-users (p < 0.0001), and by 29% among irregular users compared to non-users (RR: 0.781; 95% CI: 0.49-1.05; p = 0.099). Mortality rate was 92% lower in regular users than non-users (RR: 0.08; 95% CI: 0.02-0.35; p = 0.0008) and 84% lower than irregular users (RR: 0.16; 95% CI: 0.04-0.71; p = 0.016), while irregular users had a 37% lower mortality rate reduction than non-users (RR: 0.67; 95% CI: 0.40-0.99; p = 0.049). Risk of dying from COVID-19 was 86% lower among regular users than non-users (RR: 0.14; 95% CI: 0.03-0.57; p = 0.006), and 72% lower than irregular users (RR: 0.28; 95% CI: 0.07-1.18; p = 0.083), while irregular users had a 51% reduction compared to non-users (RR: 0.49; 95% CI: 0.32-0.76; p = 0.001).

Wait.... what?

Cureus is an open-access general medical journal and not new on the scene, formed in 2009.  Unlike those that can be forcibly censored by their sponsors this one operates on a publish, then peer review model which prevents that.  Does this impact the quality of the work?  Well, you might think it could, except that the so-called "mainstream" journals have repeatedly published crap and, from the post-publication reviews done, an utterly astounding percentage of their claimed "trials" cannot be replicated.  Science isn't about publication; if you can't replicate a claimed experiment and get the same result you're at best incompetent and likely lying.

Let me print the conclusion for you:

Non-use of ivermectin was associated with a 12.5-fold increase in mortality rate and a seven-fold increased risk of dying from COVID-19 compared to the regular use of ivermectin. This dose-response efficacy reinforces the prophylactic effects of ivermectin against COVID-19.

Indeed.  Dose-response is one of the gold-standard markers.  Failing to find it is a good indication whatever you think is going on, presuming you don't hit toxicity limits, is wrong.  Finding it is not proof you're right but its a pretty good indication.

This study was run out of Brazil and, importantly, was prospective; that is, they didn't try to reverse-evaluate something later on and draw inferences; instead this was an intentionally-designed study, got IRB approval and was monitored both for adverse events and outcomes. 

The study itself was completed in December of 2020.  Yet here we are, a year and a half later, and only now does it hit the press.

Well, sort of hit the press.

Notice how it hasn't shown up anywhere in the so-called "mainstream" reporting?

I'll bet it won't.


Especially when one considers that the results are wildly better than the jabs, with a much safer side effect profile, particularly given that the dose used did not exceed that for other common but not life-threatening conditions, specifically scabies..

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Cmoledor 1k posts, incept 2021-04-13
2022-09-14 08:10:20

But theres no money in ivermectin so......

The whole world is one big fucking scam
Why are you giving a vulgarity warning here? Our genial host is an advocate of both skullfucking and sodomy via rusty chainsaw. Credit to Rollformer
Fumei 3k posts, incept 2019-01-08
2022-09-14 08:10:20

I would bet most quacks will not read the study, even if it is provided free of charge.
Checkthisout 327 posts, incept 2010-10-01
2022-09-14 08:10:20

And Ivermectin did what the vaccines should be doing: you were 49% less likely to contract COVID if you took Ivermectin regularly.

Does that mean Ivermectin can be called a COVID vaccine now? LOL

There are no gun free zones where free men tread.
Tonythetiger 690 posts, incept 2019-01-27
2022-09-14 08:10:20

Horse paste for the win!

The delay and suppression of these kind of actual studies only serves to further the decent into chaos our society is undergoing. Dark days ahead.

And it's no surprise to TF regulars that TG was on this kind of stuff from the beginning, only now there's even better statistical evidence that his conclusions were spot on.

"War is when the Government tells you who the bad guy is. Revolution is when you decide that for yourself." - Benjamin Franklin
Pods 41 posts, incept 2019-12-28
2022-09-14 08:10:20

If this was mass produced and used around the world there would have been no Plandemic, EUA, jab mandate, insane money printing, nor increase in power and authority of government.
So it makes perfect sense this was buried, prescriptions weren't filled, and an ad campaign against it.
They're not on your side.
Mikeyinfl 172 posts, incept 2021-08-02
2022-09-14 08:10:20

I had to read much further down in the study to understand why they left 71,548 participants out of the analysis which they state at the beginning, but no answer as to why they did that. Turns out, much further down in the study in a table they state that this group was omitted due to that fact that of total of 113,844 in the study, 71k were uncertain use between 60-180mg. Now it makes sense.

Also this interesting:
Ivermectin regular users were older (average age = 47 years) compared to irregular users (average age = 41 years). The non-users (average age = 39.8 years) had approximately 20% to 50% higher prevalence of T2D and hypertension. If ivermectin did not work, one would expect higher hospitalizations and mortality rates in the group of regular users, which did not happen, as seen in the pre-matched analysis, in Supplement Appendix 1.
Whitehat 10k posts, incept 2017-06-27
2022-09-14 08:10:20

Cracks in the dam.

First a trickle, then a flow.

Next comes a flood.

Best part is that those responsible for this mess also monitor the metaphorical dam of truth with similar regard.


smiley Je souhaite
Samiam 47 posts, incept 2021-05-11
2022-09-14 08:10:20

Exactly this! And yet, it is not considered scientific by those "in the know". I managed to snag some horse paste when I was in the States and have been using it on a prophylactic basis for about the last 3 months after someone here said that it cleared up a nail fungal infection for them by using it that way. I'm finding the same result! Also, having been back in the States for a few weeks and around multiple multiple jabbed people, including 2 who tested positive just after we left, I am still healthy. As far as I know, I've never gotten it either.

And yet, my husband, the scientist, when he got pretty sick back in January and I asked if he wanted to use it acted horrified that I would even suggest giving him something that a Doctor hadn't prescribed. I've since hidden my stash so that he doesn't find a way to dispose of it...
Attilahooper 4k posts, incept 2007-08-28
2022-09-14 08:10:20

I saw that, I'm glad you tickered it as I'll be forwarding.

Sick Boy nCoV!
Killersdad 2k posts, incept 2008-03-27
2022-09-14 08:24:25

I was shunned from family, doctors and friends for pointing this out at about that time.

Garnered a supply of pony paste before it became rare and costly and helped some with it.

Got Covid in Jan of this year and with using protocols learned here it amounted to just a week long typical annoying cold.

It is probably more about the money and killing off the older generations than other factors.

Why treat a disease successfully with pennys when you can reap mega billions?

Plus, they hate when you take control of your health into your own hands because that removes control from the powers that be.

What Americans see as an abject catastrophe, Biden cheers on as a stunning and planned success.

Dont you ever wonder why they have to sell us on tofu but bacon sells itself?
Prof_dilligaf 401 posts, incept 2021-09-02
2022-09-14 08:56:37

This is good to know, but the "herpa derpa heerse paste is for stupids!" is still incredibly strong among the vaxholes, like my brother and SIL.

Dialectic like this is not going to break through such powerfully-held emotional biases. Remember, it has been conclusively and repeatedly demonstrated for millennia that many people would rather literally die than ever utter the words "I was wrong".
Tickerguy 188k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2022-09-14 08:58:06

I'm not a big fan of anything on a prophylactic basis unless you are at particular risk, simply because chronic alteration of body chemistry runs risks that have nothing to do with the drug ITSELF (rather its habituation and your body chemistry adapting to it) which is ALWAYS a risk and, if you get bit by it, is BAD.

With that said for those who ARE at elevated risk this is one of the better trade-offs out there.

NASA faked out a computer instead of running the test.
Then tried to launch and aborted instead of going "BOOOM!"
Did they abort the JABS after faking THOSE tests?
Lulubell 66 posts, incept 2021-03-15
2022-09-14 09:12:04

Okay i possibly have covid right now. I definitely got something it feels like the flu. Not a terrible flu but this would be a weird time to get the flu and it seems like everyone and their brother has Covid right now but I went ahead and just started taking ivermectin yesterday. Ivermectin does have some weird and wonky visual side effects. It's like there are pulsating lights in your peripheral vision. I noticed it in the past when I'm taking it in a smaller dose prophylactically but it's pretty dramatic.
Bodhi 5k posts, incept 2008-02-23
2022-09-14 09:12:21

I used injectable Ivermectin for 5 days per the FLCCC protocol when I tested positive for COVID back in May of this year. I felt much better after 48 hours, and I was back to normal and testing negative 10 days later. I can't be 100% certain that Ivermectin had any positive effects, but I am certain that it had no negative effects.
Jwm_in_sb 5k posts, incept 2009-04-16
2022-09-14 09:12:27

December 2020 the Jabs were already ineligible foe EUA AND 9 MOS later we get a mandate for a jab that was illegal on its face. What do I have wrong?!
Jpg 725 posts, incept 2009-03-23
2022-09-14 09:17:54

... a 12.5-fold increase in mortality rate and a seven-fold increased risk of dying from COVID-19...

What's the difference between "mortality" and "dying"?
Ihsmta 805 posts, incept 2008-04-10
2022-09-14 09:18:01

The fact that many countries around the world, such as India, found this out early in the pandemic, makes one wonder exactly what if any credibility the US and EU industrial pharmaceutical complex have with a MAJORITY of the world's population?

"Economists are no different than the prophets of ancient Pompeii who reassured that Mt Vesuvius would never blow. After all, it never had before." Baxter Black, DVM and Cowboy Poet

"You can avoi
Mikeyjm2 92 posts, incept 2011-10-20
2022-09-14 10:02:59

They barely acknowledged the role of vitamin D in preventing bad COVID outcome, so it's certainly not surprising that they would not acknowledge ivermectin. It's sickening, but not surprising. Can't have people being healthy on the cheap. It ruins dependence on the big $ medi-scam.
Whossane 238 posts, incept 2018-01-25
2022-09-14 10:03:03

There is evidence that ivermectin inhibits growth of cancer cells but there is also evidence that it inhibits normal cell regeneration. I personally wouldn't take it as a prophylactic.

Ndp 91 posts, incept 2021-04-21
2022-09-14 10:03:15

I can't be 100% certain that Ivermectin had any positive effects, but I am certain that it had no negative effects.

And there lies the difference between rational thought and Covid religious fervor. Contrast this simple coherent statement of fact against the nonsense spouted about the vaccine by the true believers.

"I wound up in the hospital for a week. Thank goodness I had the Vax or things would have been much worse."

"I've had Covid three times in the past six months. Just imagine how bad it would be if I weren't double boosted."

"I developed a rare clotting disorder. The doctors have no idea what caused it, but I'm absolutely certain it wasn't the vax."
Jc3 411 posts, incept 2020-03-02
2022-09-14 10:03:26

@Samian IVM had a similar impact a toenail issue here although I was not aware IVM was the cause. Thanks!

I recall the words "the solution cannot be worse than the problem" being spoken. Next time an "emergency" shows up with FearPorn PR 24/7, perhaps one should look around very carefully for an existing solution that is not the one being proposed for "the masses" or a solution that is being attacked like IVM was/is.
Phantom13 4 posts, incept 2009-07-21
2022-09-14 10:03:34

Just goes to show the powers that be were not just wrong, they were just lying the whole time.
Ingar 386 posts, incept 2017-02-14
2022-09-14 10:03:46

I don't recall where I heard the figure that 75% of the Ministry of Truth revenue comes from pharmaceutical advertising. This may be wrong, but from all the drug ads on the tele we know that their ad revenue is significant. Advertising works if it is simple and and and and effective. Big Pharma and Medicine are not about keeping us healthy, but wringing as much money from us as possible. Meanwhile, Lord Fauci is about to make his getaway with his 30 pieces of silver.

Advertising has gotten America into its current state by convincing many Americans that debt is good, white people are evil, happiness can be found in a bag of Doritos and a bottle of Coca-Cola, you can be healthy even if you are a hamplanet, and there's always a pill or injection that will cure what ails you.

Phils 135 posts, incept 2018-02-07
2022-09-14 10:03:56

Let's call it for what it was and is, A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY. More accurately, a series of crimes against humanity.

According to the Zalensky Protocol, hydroxychloroquine also works, and when that was restricted, he found that quercetin as a replacement also worked.

As you recently reported, the use of hydroxyurea for ventilator patients would have saved most if the discovery had been publicized, and probably short circuited the entire Covid-19 event.

These groups totally failed us and chose to become criminals instead. The medical industry, Congress and the Executive Branch, broadcast and print media.

If they don't get punished now, they will try something worse down the road.

Bonus comment: I'm going to frame my three unopened tubes of ivermectin horse paste and hang then on the wall. A reminder of the great life saving info from Mr. KD.
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