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 9/11 Can Now Drink
Tickerguy 188k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2022-09-12 11:24:06

That the FBI deliberately ignored the report out of Florida is fact.
That Bush allowed Saudis plausibly connected to the attack to leave on private jets is fact.
That the OTHER Bush's DOT gave most of the hijackers FL Driver licenses is fact.
That a material number of them had, at the time of 9/11, overstayed their visas and yet were not rounded up and deported for doing so is also fact.

That if ANY of these hadn't happened neither would have 9/11 is also...... FACT.

That we DID NOT hang every single dickface in Government responsible for this, all of whom were DIRECTLY responsible for 3,000 dead Americans is also... FACT.

Now how many Americans got killed in 2020/2021/2022 as a result of them KNOWING they'd get away with it the NEXT TIME for the SPECIFIC REASON that we did not FORCE everyone of those responsible the gallows the LAST time?

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NASA faked out a computer instead of running the test.
Then tried to launch and aborted instead of going "BOOOM!"
Did they abort the JABS after faking THOSE tests?
Boredfree 660 posts, incept 2021-09-15
2022-09-12 12:24:45

I can't understand why people choose to push Karl's button regarding his rules on this subject.

The web is full of places the trade in such tin is welcomed, why push here?

I LOVE a does of tin related to this, but I honestly appreciate the lack of it here... and it isn't lacking, just more nuanced and refined.

There are plenty of things to be outraged about we all agree on. Why lose sight of these right-in-our-face insults to rehash what is old news? After the past two years, do you think anyone gives a fuck about 9/11 'facts'?

9/11, Trump, laws? If you believe any of these matter you must still watch too much tv.

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The problem is most people want to point a finger rather than their thumb when dealing with challenges.
Boredfree 660 posts, incept 2021-09-15
2022-09-12 12:24:52

What Karl just posted times whatever it takes to make people wake up.

We the people have refused to stop our rapist; I guess we must like it.

Or, more likely as whitehat points out, we're afraid if we stop the corruption, our personal corruption might need to be stopped also.

Yeah, that's more likely the case. Americans are worried they're going to be forced to stop fucking other people and nations if we want our political rape to end.

Good luck with that.

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The problem is most people want to point a finger rather than their thumb when dealing with challenges.
Tickerguy 188k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2022-09-12 12:25:29

@Wifi on the flat templates a person who is banned has their handle struck through.

I did not approve any of the banhammer comments though.

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NASA faked out a computer instead of running the test.
Then tried to launch and aborted instead of going "BOOOM!"
Did they abort the JABS after faking THOSE tests?

Wifi 10k posts, incept 2013-02-13
2022-09-12 12:38:55

@Tickerguy, Got it, thanks.


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"We live in a, idiocracy populated with morons." - Goldbrick
"Freedom cannot end where fear begins."
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Jw. 559 posts, incept 2019-10-10
2022-09-12 14:02:34

I have a printed version of the timeline that someone published briefly (it was taken down shortly after being hosted online). It has many interesting items in it, dating back to well before the actual event. It is a laundry list of fuck-ups and unfathomable incompetence (or intention, take you pick).

Was online with a few friends and the clock struck midnight (wee hours of 9/11) and it was interesting to hear different people's 'feel' for the moment. One was in preschool, others were in grade/high school only me and one other person were old enough to know what the event was in terms of before and after. We didn't get into much of the controversial subjects available but for me it marked the start of the surveillance state, secret courts and the underhandedness of the government I grew up distrusting exposed for all to see (and subsequently ignore). It was the coming out party for the darkness that had previously remained behind the scenes or in the shadows.

We spent over 10 trillion on war in the ME because (and blew up the economy) of this incident with just about every Republican you could find at the time was in total agreement on the need to punish everyone but the actual perps, spending be dammed. The Democrat party voted against most of the bills for war and spying at the time but was eventually sweet up and incorporated into the MIC's evil profit plan and by 2014 was fomenting their own war with Russia in the Ukraine. Now they work together to use the apparatus they said was for 'our safety' against those who fund their mansions, private planes and fancy lifestyles (We the People).

They have perfected 'divide and conquer', yet...

99% of DC voted on the COVID lockdowns, vaccines and COVID spending (under Trump).
98% of DC voted on the Ukraine war funding and lend/lease bill for going to war with Russia (under Biden).

If it isn't crystal clear what these two parties want for this country by now to everyone who gives a single fuck about their lives or their families lives i'm not sure people will ever see it.

A certain group of people have been conned into complacency and by the time they realize (six years from now) what has happened it will be too late to get back to any kind of a life we once knew. The very same people who once claimed that if anyone thought that the US was incompetent enough to allow 9/11 to take place, those people should stand against the government, now claim they just had an election stolen from them and are lining up once again to vote... The other side is too wrapped up in their exploited emotions, self hatred expressed as finger pointing and the hating of their genitals to even see the mess they keep voting into office (however the appearance of change is strong for this side, even if that change is regression into tribalism and forced social hierarchy by a ruling elite).

I'm not sure if it is wishful thinking of willful ignorance at this point, likely a good mix of each.

But it isn't particular to the US, Europe is being sacrificed seemingly for the US dollar and the blame is currently resting on the shoulders of Russia and 'climate change'.

The overspending must continue, until it can't.

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The spending must continue, until it can't.
Sonoran_monk 1k posts, incept 2021-08-16
2022-09-12 14:03:17

It is a bad version of a Scooby Doo Mystery. People seem to be focused on whether they are being violated by an actual swamp monster or the grounds keeper in a mask rather than the fact they are being violated in the first place.
Andrew 94 posts, incept 2014-09-24
2022-09-12 16:09:07

"It's one of the key bright-line test days in which it was proved our government no longer functions except as a grift, fraud and death-dealing machine that can and will be turned on anyone, including our own citizens, whenever some rich jackass demands it."

That's sadly the best takes on the last 21 years.
If one looks (not very) hard though, they realize this was very true before "9-11-01", it just wasn't as obvious.
Edward.fish 333 posts, incept 2021-12-17
2022-09-12 16:22:00

Tickerguy wrote..
That the FBI deliberately ignored the report out of Florida is fact.
That Bush allowed Saudis plausibly connected to the attack to leave on private jets is fact.
That the OTHER Bush's DOT gave most of the hijackers FL Driver licenses is fact.
That a material number of them had, at the time of 9/11, overstayed their visas and yet were not rounded up and deported for doing so is also fact.

That if ANY of these hadn't happened neither would have 9/11 is also...... FACT.

That we DID NOT hang every single dickface in Government responsible for this, all of whom were DIRECTLY responsible for 3,000 dead Americans is also... FACT.

Now how many Americans got killed in 2020/2021/2022 as a result of them KNOWING they'd get away with it the NEXT TIME for the SPECIFIC REASON that we did not FORCE everyone of those responsible the gallows the LAST time?

@Tickerguy -- These are excellent points, and a very good (if really disturbing/uncomfortable) question with which you conclude. -- I don't know that they've gotten away with it (the shutdowns/mandates), yet... sure, none of the governors have been dragged from their offices, beaten, and killed for prime-time MSM TV... despite the FBI's involvement (i.e Whitmer) and the frankly insane antagonizing like (e.g.) the "Red Sermon" Biden did recently. The government seems to be pushing ahead with an insane combination of both "it's never happened before, so it won't happen this time" and "we'll make it happen!" --as if they've "got all bases covered" and are inviting us to play their game of "Heads, we win; Tails, you lose"-- hence why they're pushing for Civil War while simultaneously underestimating just how BRUTAL it could be, to the point that a sufficiently volatile "explosion" would destroy ALL protections, comforts, and authority they enjoy: that is, if their own bodyguards get family killed off AND blame their politician for that, how would they ever see the gunshot to the back of the head? People can be very brutal, and even moreso when there is no way to obtain justice. (It's arguable that the reason we haven't seen administrators and politicians lynch-mobbed yet over the injection mandates is exactly because there has been some success within the courts.)

There was a webpage I came across a few years ago with a survivor of a recent-ish Civil War (Bosnia?) and, while most of the article was about how to survive it, the thing that stood out to me was the recounting of just how sudden everything changed, how "overnight" it went from having a functional society to Group 1 in a fortified house holding off Group B and subsistence-living.
Redjack 1k posts, incept 2018-01-29
2022-09-12 16:23:22

Friends little brother was in tower 2. He made it out, but they didn't know where he was for a long while.

Lost a few friends because of Iraq. Without going into details, both were suicides.

Most of my young crew doesn't understand the world that was. I remember flying before 911. Remember sitting in the concourse with my wife before I flew.
Tickerguy 188k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2022-09-12 16:25:36

I remember when metal detectors showed up after the "fly me to Cuba!" asshole shit started.

That was a tolerable and reasonable thing.

What happened after 9/11 was not, considering how many people who actually had authority to stop it, AND responsibility to do so, didn't and zero of them ever faced anything for same.

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NASA faked out a computer instead of running the test.
Then tried to launch and aborted instead of going "BOOOM!"
Did they abort the JABS after faking THOSE tests?
Andrew 94 posts, incept 2014-09-24
2022-09-12 16:37:09

@Edward.fish if you refer to "Selco" that's a gold mine.
I remember watching the "Former Yugoslavia" fall apart on the evening news while in high school.
Even the brief, sanitized, and biased reports showed me "that doesn't look fun".

Someone posted, years ago, a photo from that time frame of Sarajevo's "Olympic Rings" being used by people as "cover", since The Games had taken place there barely a decade before things fell apart.
Edward.fish 333 posts, incept 2021-12-17
2022-09-12 17:07:27

Andrew wrote..
@Edward.fish if you refer to "Selco" that's a gold mine.
I remember watching the "Former Yugoslavia" fall apart on the evening news while in high school.
Even the brief, sanitized, and biased reports showed me "that doesn't look fun".

@Andrew -- Thank you for the memory-jog; I think this is the article I remembered: https://www.theorganicprepper.com/shtf-b..... Though the first result in my search was this one: https://survivalistprepper.net/surviving.....
Cj.harris 2 posts, incept 2022-09-12
2022-09-12 18:58:55

A friend called me on 9/11 and told me to turn on the TV. The first thing I heard there was Peter Jennings saying that we were all going to have to give up our civil liberties now. That creepy prescient comment has rattled around in my head the past 20 years, as we have watched things deteriorate. It was all I needed to hear to comprehend what they had planned.

Our Western elites are specisal. They are the worst people the planet has ever seen.

Cj.harris 2 posts, incept 2022-09-12
2022-09-12 18:59:02

I salute those who stepped up to the plate on 9/11.

That day was the largest boat lift in human history

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18lsxFcD....
Msheff 55 posts, incept 2018-05-03
2022-09-13 20:52:48

@Tickerguy wrote <i>That the FBI deliberately ignored the report out of Florida is fact.
That Bush allowed Saudis plausibly connected to the attack to leave on private jets is fact.
That the OTHER Bush's DOT gave most of the hijackers FL Driver licenses is fact.
That a material number of them had, at the time of 9/11, overstayed their visas and yet were not rounded up and deported for doing so is also fact.</i>
Which of those can be blamed on mistakes, oversights, incompetence? Answer: none. With the exception of the last one, and the addition of the fighter planes TOLD to stand down, ALL of the above are conscious ACTIONS taken by someone or persons unknown (ok, Jeb signed off on the drivers licenses, but who told him to do that?). They fly in the face of common sense let alone SOP.
Mannfm11 8k posts, incept 2009-02-28
2022-09-16 07:07:14

Could there be a link to what Lara Logan is telling us here?

https://rumble.com/v1k93z9-lara-logan-bi....

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The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable.---John Kenneth Galbraith
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