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Evergreen 186 posts, incept 2021-12-26
2022-09-10 11:20:53

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If even half of these kids fail by this year that loss will be permanent.

Given that we are here, it's safe to say the above quote amounts to predicting water will become more wet.

See what a 19 year old in 1834 can produce by his own hand in "Two Years Before the Mast".

If diversity is SO great, why does the same crowd push Common Core? Public education is the single greatest harm to the nation's health. Any free peoples would naturally find a way to functionally educate their offspring.

In such a world, the covid could not possibly have been pulled off.
Abelardlindsey 1k posts, incept 2021-03-26
2022-09-10 11:20:58

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As Wayiwalk mentioned though, many young people were already effectively retarded before the corona scam. I for one look forward to more of these under 85 IQ members of society succumbing to the deathjuice.


A friend of mine told me that 25% of the children in the Lake Sammamish public schools were considered Learning disabled. This was around 2014 or so. Lake Sammamish is the trendy edge city in the Seattle area with mostly upper middle income people. If the kids there are messed up, this does not bode well for those in less "fortunate" circumstances. A couple years later, someone commented on Vox Day's blog that it was generally acknowledged in the education field that a full 50% of kids in the public schools nation-wide would be learning disabled by '25. Mind you, all of this is pre-covid.

The covid-19 debacle has greatly exacerbated all of these negative trends.

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It's all in the mitochondria.

"It's the future, and...you're not."
Indianarube 770 posts, incept 2020-03-22
2022-09-10 11:24:11

In a millennia from now, there will be archeological sites rummaging through the remains of this society. They will be amazed at how such an apparently advanced civilization, replete with all the amenities that an educated population can accommodate, could possibly fall.

We stand at the precipise of a New Dark Age. We have the blessing, or curse of observing it occur in real time, on our watch. We let it happen.

One man's opinion.
Joancrawford 358 posts, incept 2013-10-14
2022-09-10 11:24:22

Kirklandguy-I cannot believe the crickets from teachers and administrators over this. To me, the absolute primary job of a K-2 teacher was a complete failure the past two years

I am genuinely ashamed of my "profession" and what it has become-glorified babysitter for grades k-12. I saw the writing on the wall way back around 2005 when Common Core was introduced. 2 + 2 does not have to equal 4 if the student can argue effectively against it. Yes, they actually said that to us when introducing Common Core to the faculty. I knew my days were numbered-no pun intended.

Correct grammar is racist. Debate, a subject I was wildly enthusiastic about in high school and college, was a symptom of white privilege. If you happen to see what constitutes a debate in college now, it effectively amounts to black women rapping about inequality and the (unjust)system. No facts, just feelz.

Do you like traveling across bridges? How about the ph balance of the water coming from your tap? Do you enjoy flushing toilets? Well, you can kiss that sh*t goodbye-again, no pun intended. In between making white males feel ashamed for liking physics, chemistry, and biology, and promoting retards into management positions over them, the future indeed does look very bleak.

I am thankful that the era in which I grew up saw men (not women!) develop schemata to land on the moon-an event I remember only vaguely as a child. Freedom to move about without being tracked or traced was taken for granted. As long as the street lights weren't on, you could and did play outside all day during the summer. We mounted our bikes for destinations unknown, sans helmets or knee pads. If you fell off the bike and required stitches, mom or dad were pissed that they had to take you, once again, to the emergency room, where the doctors and nurses knew your parents on a first name basis (2 older, hell-raising brothers).

In high school and college, you could formulate an argument with your teacher or professor so long as you could support whatever your viewpoint was with facts. One of my most influential teachers in my senior year was an old nun who taught us US government. You'd better damn well know the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, what rights were secured, and how those in government were upholding (or not) those rights.

It didn't matter if you were a Democrat or Republican. Was the president, senator, congress critter acting within his/her authority? And if not, why not? Explain.

And don't even try to hide from her imperial gaze. She'd hunt you down like a tracked animal and eviscerate you publicly if you didn't complete the required coursework. She was stodgy and old fashioned, but I learned a hell of a lot from that old penguin.

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Don't f*ck with me fellas! This ain't my first time at the rodeo.

America-it was a good run while it lasted. RIP!
Dingleberry 500 posts, incept 2011-11-06
2022-09-10 11:36:46

Tons of blame to go around here.

First and foremost are the breeders. You know who you are. So do I. You spoiled, lazy entitled cretins deserve eternal damnation. You use public schools are daycare. School started back this month....guess who is the happiest? "PARENTS"! Tons of you happy breeders out there celebrating now that taxpayer-funded babysitting is back. You couldn't even stand your kids for a few months over the summer. May you die old and alone in a nursing home when your kids grow up and recognize your selfishness and laziness. Public school today IS child abuse. Is is NOT the same as when you went decades ago. You KNOW this. You could homeschool or perhaps go private, but that takes way too much time and effort on your part. And we can't have that now, can we? So go ahead...keep that dual income, or keep your karen happy so she can have that Benz and pontificate on Facebook all day in the burbs. Priorities.

Second are the teachers. Most are vile, woke scum, and are so disgustingly lazy, and beyond hypocritical about "just wanting to teach the childrens!"....may you and your leftist unions burn in hell. Get rid of summer vacations, winter break, spring break Thanksgiving break (did I miss any?)......see how many them stay "for the chillrens" they so adore.

Bonus! Now we find out that those unions actually called the shots within the CDC and school lockdowns. And this is on top of grooming children and fucking up their minds (FOREVER) with gender bender woke insanity. Hope that free money was worth your souls. Damn you to hell.

Last but not least are the politicians. I blame them, but judging by the karen-breeders running amok and screaming like banchees, they gave the masses what they wanted. At least the loudest ones. That is until the breeders got stuck with their own kids for a year. Then hoes got mad!! As I said, breeders don't give a flying fuck about their kids "education", only their convenience. But alas, the pols can go to hell too. They get elected to lead, not follow.

This issue hits home for me. When I was very young, maybe 3rd or 4th grade, the local school union went on strike (I lived in a blue zoo). The strike lasted only a couple of months. Up to that point I was rolling along. But I failed a math class. And this affected my young mind greatly. I never caught up in math, even through high school. Once I got older and looked back at how these scum unions used us kids (and jeopardized our futures) as pawns for a few more dollars...fuck them all. But they sealed their own fate.

The good news story is that same district (and all those around it) dissolved or are on life support. Now it is nothing but a de facto prison system with abysmally low academics, shrinking student population, far fewer teachers, all the support staff got contracted out, and the zoos are naturally violent and feral....but at least the remaining teachers still have their union! Priorities folks. Priorities.

We are going backwards in academics, and have been for a long time now. Entrance exams are diluted, if required at all. Not uncommon to see 10 valedictorians at a graduation ceremony. Grades handed out like candy. "Graduating" functionally illiterate....yet having diplomas. Ok.

Let it all collapse and burn. It cannot be saved. The rot is too entrenched. And undeniable.
Just mail diplomas to everyone and be done with it. Or get your kids out of those sewers. That is....if you truly love them.

Edwardteach 337 posts, incept 2021-05-01
2022-09-10 11:37:22

This wasn't supposed to be a documentary.


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Know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with until you understand who's in ruttin command here.
Joancrawford 358 posts, incept 2013-10-14
2022-09-10 11:37:26

Greenacr-My wife and I worked with all of my kids through High School to make sure they understood what was being taught and that homework was done and correct. It started with reading to our kids when they were babies. All graduated with Honors from College and I would maintain that is not an accident.

Thanks for pointing this out. I remember my mom reading to me nightly as a child. I literally begged her to re-read the same story to me each night, I loved it so. One night she put her foot down and refused. She said, "Either we begin a new story or I leave right now and turn out the light!"

Needless to say, the "new story" became my new favorite, rinse, repeat, lol!

My dad listened to classical music in his bedroom nightly. My sister and I would do pirouettes to the likes of Swan Lake, etc.

Dads and moms are the MOST important teachers a child will ever have.

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Don't f*ck with me fellas! This ain't my first time at the rodeo.

America-it was a good run while it lasted. RIP!
Motorelay 256 posts, incept 2021-09-20
2022-09-10 11:37:42

I will predict what will happen to Medicare.

Anybody recall the Democratic presidential debates of 2020? FJB, Cameltoe, Butt-ifuncker, and about 15 others? Anybody recall their pushing "Medicare For All"?? They all knew Medicare was in trouble, yet they used the word to describe a single payer gov't funded health plan that would be a disaster for all of us. It would be mandatory and universal - no private insurance allowed. Yep, just like Canada and most of Europe!

This is the next step after Obummercare. "Medicare For All" bears zero resemblance to the current medical plan for age 65+ seniors. It is just socialized medicine, which they want us all on.

Of course, Congress critters, Senate rats, POTUS, and the rest would be exempt. They would have their own gold-plated medical plan! 😃
Merkinmuffley 59 posts, incept 2021-09-10
2022-09-10 11:37:58

The economic impact of this will likely never pass though completely as a good portion of the increased number of illiterates are only going to produce illiterate offspring, just as it was happening prior to the lockdowns.
Tsherry 10k posts, incept 2008-12-09
2022-09-10 11:45:37

There's NFW that 25% of the population should be categorized as LD. If that is the case (and I have little doubt that Lake Sam has done that) those kids are the permanent underclass. As long as their parental units are around they'll be coddled and provided too much attention and will never, ever have the drive to succeed on their own.

They are being conditioned to be permanently disabled. Perhaps some of them are truly so, but a quarter of the population? No fucking way.

It's a creative way to shove a whole lot of different abilities and disabilities into a box, easily categorized for grant funding, double and triple staffing, special classrooms and outdoor spaces, it's an entire industry. Trust me a bit here; I design some of those facilities; it's expanding in breadth and depth and width and complexity and inclusion every single year.

Common Core I look at as a way for teachers and their admins to get away with much less work, since lesson plans are purchased, pre-planned, packaged and ready for spoon-fed delivery. No need or DESIRE to have a customized, relevant course of study; all kids get all the same stuff and are held to the absolutely minimum standard with a minimal level of actual facts, little truth and no honesty.


Married to a former teacher, many friends are former teachers, daughter has her certificate but left the field after determining that the change from her senior year in high school (2010) to her graduation year from college (2014) completely tipped actual education into the garbage can, never to return. I have one remaining teacher in my professional friends group, he'll be retiring soon and is no longer in the classroom but in admin.

No, there won't be Medicare; this will be one of the thousand knives that kills a lot of what we 'expect' to be there for us.


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Fuck Joe Biden with a GIANT RUSTY CHAINSAW.
Greenacr 623 posts, incept 2016-03-15
2022-09-10 11:50:16

Was thinking about this Medicare subject at breakfast. At age 62.5 I am on the left side of the Boomer curve. Just as there are 10K Baby Boomers retiring everyday (I have postponed mine due to the recession) at some point the Baby Boomers are going to be dying as a similar and, or greater rate.

I would think at some point that becomes a net positive for society in terms of carrying cost but not sure there is anything left by the time we get to that point.

The Western World, China, Japan all have bad demographics and are not replacing their populations. Does this result in a better world 50 years from now?
Evergreen 186 posts, incept 2021-12-26
2022-09-10 11:59:18

Joancrawford,
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Do you like traveling across bridges?

One is defective if he does not like, or secretly harbor a need for, laborious undertakings. The farm and eking out a life were full time jobs. Carving the landscape in pursuit of trade extended the list of tasks further. In all of it, people scratched their heads in moments of pause and said, "There has to be a better way."

The cranial tool watched over the hands and formulated what-if scenarios that, repeated endlessly over the millennia, produced magnificent "accidents of nature" (a sop to the libs). Those so inclined advanced the arts and science of invention in their own laborious pursuits, and we have abundance beyond the dreams of yore.

Unfortunately, nature has been tamed to a high degree, and the result is that newer generations mature (ha, snort) relatively unchallenged physically, mentally, and spiritually, and they seek lives devoid of labor. That final prescription is retrograde. In the present, it produces a person who is rather defective all 'round...a perfect defect.

So, what does this portend?

Well, if the tamers of nature walk off the job (i.e., become incompetent), then it has no attending master...in which case, expect the reassertion of nature.

Vaxx, anyone?
Step55 207 posts, incept 2009-02-27
2022-09-10 12:13:10

There are certain letters/syllables my grandchildren mispronounce because watching facial and lip movement is so important when learning language skills. Maskholes were and are guilty of child abuse.

My timeline is 6 months to three years. Too many variables today to plan for longer periods.
Tickerguy 188k posts, incept 2007-06-26
2022-09-10 12:13:38

I want those responsible to be dead.

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NASA faked out a computer instead of running the test.
Then tried to launch and aborted instead of going "BOOOM!"
Did they abort the JABS after faking THOSE tests?
Chemman 263 posts, incept 2021-05-03
2022-09-10 12:14:10

@TG: "There's nothing that can be done about it but we damn well ought to make sure we do plenty to the people who caused it so as to make damn sure nobody ever tries that again."

If what you are referring to is the shutting down of classrooms you are correct that we can't go back in time an claim a mulligan.

That these children were harmed is not in dispute. They don't have to stay harmed but the public school system is set up to harm students in this way. Just read up on John Dewey, the father of modern public education. He wanted to create the modern socialist man who couldn't think for himself but would be obedient citizens of the state. Not knowing how to read, write and do math is a prerequisite for that world view. It has taken over 100 years but we are at that point in the public and even private educational systems.

Anecdotal: I am a retired public education chemistry teacher. I taught in several low socio-economic school districts. Two in California and one in Arizona. The same pathologies existed in all three. The first school district was a mixture of white, Hispanic and SE Asian (Vietnam Boat Children). The Vietnam Boat Children were the best group of kids I had the privilege to teach. The second white, Hispanic and black, The third white and Navajo Indian. In each case these kids had been raised in the public education system. Individual reading levels ranged from 3rd grade to past high school with the majority being in the 3rd and 4th grade levels. My experience is that children who couldn't read by the time they started formal schooling were going to struggle with reading. The system wasn't designed to help them learn and then master reading.

Can anything be done? Yes. Again my experience is that few care enough to actually do the hard work to fix the problem.

I've done a couple of tutoring stints since I retired. Both required some work in bringing the student up to grade level in reading and then in other subjects. My wife and I were both involved with these students. We didn't do anything high tech. Just pulled out the McGuffey Readers and started at the beginning and worked them through from book one to being caught up.

My personal opinion is that we need to shutter the industrial educational system. Then stop the taxes so that parents have the money to explore small tutoring groups in which several families get together and see to the education of their children.
Packetcap 714 posts, incept 2021-07-23
2022-09-10 12:15:33

From the Los Angeles Times, an article showing LAUSD has failed the students (again):

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L.A. Unified test scores released Friday showed the harsh reality of the pandemics effects on learning across all grade levels, with about 72% of students not meeting state standards in math and about 58% not meeting standards in English, deep setbacks for a majority of Los Angeles schoolchildren who were already far behind.

The scores show that about five years of gradual academic progress in the nations second-largest school district have been reversed, L.A. schools Supt. Alberto Carvalho said Friday.

The pandemic deeply impacted the performance of our students, said Carvalho, who spoke at a news conference at Aragon Avenue Elementary School in Cypress Park. Particularly kids who were at risk, in a fragile condition, prior to the pandemic, as we expected, were the ones who have lost the most ground.

Carvalho said he wants to make up two years of lost ground this year and make up five years of reverses over the next two years.

The results of the states 2022 Smarter Balanced assessments in L.A. Unified reflect a five-point increase in the percentage of students who dont meet math standards and a two-percentage-point increase for English language arts, when compared with the 2018-19 pre-pandemic academic year.

The declines are significant in a district where, before the pandemic, most students were not meeting state standards in English or math, with scores several percentage points below overall state scores and large achievement gaps between student groups.

The results showed declines across almost all grade levels and many student groups.


https://www.latimes.com/california/story....

First of all, there is no chance of "making up" the gap. The teachers don't know how to do this, and the students will be overwhelmed. They are effectively boned.

Second, what the hell did these idiots think would happen? They already knew pre-pandemic they were underperforming. Other stories about LAUSD revealed that during the pandemic a large number of students vanished and never came back:

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Between 10,000 and 20,000 students are missing from Los Angeles Unified as the first day of school nears. The district is navigating the issue as it also grapples with declining enrollment made worse by the pandemic. LAUSD expects enrollment to decline by another 28% by 2030.

Officials are working on connecting with those students to bring them back to the classroom. Most are among the early grade levels, according to Superintendent Alberto Carvalho.

We have new strategies to bring kids back into our school system, he said at a news conference Friday. Those include new innovative programs, new technologies, better transportation, reduced class sizes. We are making a strong case appealing to parents across LAUSD.


https://edsource.org/updates/thousands-o....

These kids are fucked!

smiley
Winder 129 posts, incept 2016-02-15
2022-09-10 13:23:43

We used this book to teach all our kids to read (homeschool). All could read by 6. There is no excuse for any kid not being able to read.

Teach Your Child To Read in 100 Easy Lessons

1 5-10 minute lesson every day.
Ascenzm 118 posts, incept 2021-09-12
2022-09-10 13:23:55

@JoanCrawford
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Thanks for pointing this out. I remember my mom reading to me nightly as a child. I literally begged her to re-read the same story to me each night, I loved it so. One night she put her foot down and refused. She said, "Either we begin a new story or I leave right now and turn out the light!"

Needless to say, the "new story" became my new favorite, rinse, repeat, lol!

My dad listened to classical music in his bedroom nightly. My sister and I would do pirouettes to the likes of Swan Lake, etc.

Dads and moms are the MOST important teachers a child will ever have.


LOL, apparently as a young child I did the same thing with my Mom according to my Mom. I would keep asking her to read me the same story. She would get tired of doing this and skip parts of the story. I would tell my Mom that she was not reading the entire story. Must have driven her crazy. I was fortunate to have parents who valued education.
Workerbee23 138 posts, incept 2021-09-15
2022-09-10 13:25:14

I was reading before Kindergarten. Reading across a broad spectrum of books helped build my vocabulary to an incredible extent. Reading Agatha Christie's Poirot introduced me to French, reading mysteries introduced me to Latin (lots of medical terms!).
We were read to but not to an extreme degree, my Mom loves to read but Dad not so much (he's dyslexic). Since Mom was stay at home when we were younger, I can vividly recall her standing at the stove, stirring a pot of dinner and reading a book. She had boxes of books under the basement stairs next to the home canned green beans and tomatoes.
I can remember glorious days of exploring my grandparents farm house and discovering my Mother's and Aunts books left over from their childhoods: The Bobsey Twins, Trixie Belden, The Black Stallion series, Nancy Drew, The Hardy Boys, The Power Boys - all fantastic books for kids, full of fun, family, friends, puzzles, and the special relationships we can develop with animals/nature.
So much of basic human interconnection can be gleaned, and most of it subconsciously from books like that.
I believe that what makes a child happy when exploring through reading, helps define what they/we look for in the real world. The main form of learning is emulation of what we have been exposed to and want to have for ourselves.
Look at how the most basic of books has been modified/changed/warped and you can see a direct link to society.

@Evergreen, strangely enough, it occurred to me while typing this that most of the books I listed above included things like chores and actual work. The funny thing is, those things were never ridiculed but taken in stride (by the characters) since they were so much a part of their daily lives. Again, how children relate to "norms". Oh, Trixie has to dust and sweep before she can hang out with her friends. I have to do that too!
Now doing chores is punishment and you can see the results in todays levels of entitlement.

If anyone here is still deluded enough to think any "helpful" govt entity will still be effective (for you) or even in place, well, what the hell are you smoking? The best way to prepare is to imagine that nothing acceptable (to you) will exist and prepare accordingly. I am currently trying to find a local naturopathic Dr so I can move towards taking better care of myself without the need for "modern/socialized" medicine. Books on herbs, getting back to basic, proven medical science.There's a lot out there that has been demonized and buried as it takes power/money away from the patient and puts it into the machines hands. No thanks.

@Joancrawford - ever thought about tutoring for extra income? Pretty sure that a talented, caring tutor/teacher will be in high demand for those parents that give a damn.
Workerbee23 138 posts, incept 2021-09-15
2022-09-10 13:25:43

@Chemman - have you read anything by John Taylor Gatto? Talk about eye opening

@Packetcap - and I'm sure the only way to catch them up is more MONEY. Always solves the problem, right? /s
Guerin 121 posts, incept 2021-09-26
2022-09-10 13:26:05

The sad thing is that for normal kids, parents can accomplish teaching their kids how to read without the schools and get it done well before third grade.

I was one of 3 kids. I wouldn't say any of us are geniuses, but we all knew how to read before we got to school. That was because every night, there was always at least a little time invested by the parents to take a book and read it one-on-one. With the simpler books - Sesame Street or Berenstain Bears or Dr. Seuss or the like - that usually came with showing the words as they were being read or eventually asking us to read it. Longer chapter books were thrown in as well.

It didn't take any kind of fancy system or experts, it just took effort, time, and a bit of money spent on the books.
Rokwell 66 posts, incept 2008-10-23
2022-09-10 13:53:11

This one hits home. I've got three school aged rascals, the youngest is starting first grade this year (whenever the SPS teachers decide to start working). I'm upset about the business side of the arrangement, I pay taxes you teach kids. I got a pretty raw deal on that for a couple years. So there's that, but having an educationally impaired child? Who am I going to blame for that? These are my kids, I brought them into the world and I will make sure their competitive citizens. I can't hear anybody blaming orhers because their children are 3 years behind in academics. You can borrow my overhead projector for homework time, I'll show you how to use it. Get the fuck out of here with that shit.
Querant 257 posts, incept 2021-09-19
2022-09-10 16:10:57

Parents teaching their kids:

My three year old granddaughter and her mom reading on the train, summer vacation this year:

 

(Book is called "What is the World Made Of? Solids, Liquids and Gases.")

There is hope!

Abelardlindsey 1k posts, incept 2021-03-26
2022-09-10 16:11:11

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Do you like traveling across bridges? How about the ph balance of the water coming from your tap? Do you enjoy flushing toilets? Well, you can kiss that sh*t goodbye-again, no pun intended. In between making white males feel ashamed for liking physics, chemistry, and biology, and promoting retards into management positions over them, the future indeed does look very bleak.


We'll become like Brazil. I thought about travelling there just to see what America, circa 2050, will be like. But they still have a vaccine mandate for visitors. Or it will be like those Robert Ferrigno Assassin novels.

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It's all in the mitochondria.

"It's the future, and...you're not."
Sonoran_monk 1k posts, incept 2021-08-16
2022-09-10 16:11:19

Behold, the horror!



These were students from the last 15-20 years. Imagine how bad it is going to get.

Idiocracy was too optimistic. They still had working technology in the movie.
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